| lotuspsychje | good morning | 02:14 |
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| ducasse | good morning | 07:22 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:23 |
| croraf | Hi, I'm using GNOME terminal, and I see it is based on VTE. I'm confused on what the VTE provides, and what GNOME terminal provides on top? | 11:36 |
| croraf | Does VTE like provide all these graphical elements (which are customizable) and GNOME put them together? | 11:39 |
| ducasse | croraf: aiui vte is just the terminal widget | 11:44 |
| ducasse | i might be wrong, though, you should ask the gnome people | 11:45 |
| croraf | I'm confused about the term "widget". From my understanding widgets are buttons, scrolls, scroll wrappers, labels, plain panels. Every UI element is one widget. | 11:50 |
| croraf | ducasse, | 11:50 |
| croraf | what do you mean by gnome people, you mean irc gnome channel? | 11:50 |
| croraf | (if such exists) | 11:51 |
| ducasse | yeah, they have their own irc network, see their website | 11:51 |
| ducasse | the terminal inside the window is a widget | 11:52 |
| ducasse | aiui, at least | 11:52 |
| croraf | thanks | 12:39 |
| ash_worksi | so, once upon a time, several people helped me understand how the names of various services fit in the heirarchy of an ubuntu OS; re-reading the logs (thank you ducasse, sarnold, mgedmin, daftykins) I am left with 2 questions: | 19:37 |
| tomreyn | i think you have 4 people (those you just highlighted) waiting in tight anticipation for those 2 questions now. | 19:42 |
| ash_worksi | lol | 19:42 |
| ash_worksi | I keep proofing my questions | 19:42 |
| ash_worksi | and hopefully those 4 people just feel appreciated :) | 19:43 |
| ash_worksi | nonetheless, the general feeling I got was that dwm doesn't seem like a trival thing to implement especially (perhaps?) in an Ubuntu environment, but clearly people do..... rereading it, I think someone was saying it's just not easy to switch back-and-forth between gnome-shell and dwm so maybe that's not a question | 19:45 |
| ash_worksi | the other more direct question is: if you use something other than one of the main underlying programs associated with gnome (for example, dwm instead of gnome-shell), is it "gnome" anymore? and consequently is it ubuntu anymore? | 19:46 |
| sarnold | ash_worksi: there's a lot that goes into "ubuntu": the default choices made for every level of the stack, security support, community support, etc | 19:53 |
| sarnold | ash_worksi: there's kubuntu and xubuntu and lubuntu and ubuntu studio and I'm sure i"m missing some.. | 19:54 |
| sarnold | ash_worksi: all are various takes on what it means to be "ubuntu" | 19:54 |
| sarnold | ash_worksi: dwm is far from trivial to implement because the way to configure dwm is to edit the source code and recompile it; that doesn't work well with tens of millions of users :) you're going to have a small group at best, and they'll all want it to be something different | 19:55 |
| ash_worksi | sarnold: so what are people running dwm on? archlinux or something? | 19:58 |
| sarnold | ash_worksi: or ubuntu or debian or gentoo or slackware or something they maintain themselves or void or nix or .. :) | 19:58 |
| ash_worksi | and are you basically saying, "it wouldn't be gnome because the pieces of software that make gnome are so tightly inter-dependant, that swapping one would effectively evolve a different DE" ? | 20:00 |
| ash_worksi | I see | 20:00 |
| sarnold | yeah once you take gnome-shelkl out of gnome, then you're 'just' using gnome applications with your own window manager :) | 20:08 |
| ash_worksi | thanks sarnold | 20:14 |
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