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cpaelzerhere in a minute15:30
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dokohi15:31
cpaelzer#startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status15:31
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cpaelzerddstreet: doko: sarnold: jamespage: didrocks999 - hi15:31
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cpaelzerwe had no past weeks action items, so let us skip that15:32
sarnoldgood morning15:32
cpaelzeralso no new MIRs in our inbox15:32
didrocks999hey15:32
cpaelzernor are there recent updates to incomplete MIRs15:32
cpaelzerwhat has some content thou is component mismatches15:32
cpaelzer#topic current component mismatches15:33
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cpaelzer#link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg15:33
cpaelzer#link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg15:33
cpaelzerdoko: postgresql-13 is ready to migrate except for perl - I think this could be promoted now in hirsute15:33
cpaelzerdoko: what do you think and coudl you do that?15:34
cpaelzerrelated bug (to post updates) is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postgresql-13/+bug/190205915:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1902059 in postgresql-13 (Ubuntu) "[MIR] postgresql-13" [Undecided,Incomplete]15:34
* cpaelzer is waiting a bit to let this topic conclude before starting the next one we see in mismatches15:35
dokosure. will do. please note that we also need postgresql-12 for the perl transition, afaics15:35
cpaelzerdoko: PG-12 is intended to be removed15:35
cpaelzerdoko: hence we didn't care for it15:35
cpaelzerdoko: it is already out of Debian testing15:35
cpaelzerbut I didn't track how many reverse dept we'd have left15:35
dokoyes, we can remove it after perl mirates ...15:36
cpaelzerdoko: should I analyze and file a removal for hirsute ?15:36
cpaelzeroh ok, so perl can migrate without postgresql-12 being either removed or fixed then?15:36
dokolet's discuss this later, not MIR stuff15:36
cpaelzerok WFM15:36
cpaelzernext MIR topic node-jquery->sizzle15:37
sarnoldhow did node-jquery get into main?15:37
cpaelzerexactly15:37
cpaelzerit is unsubscribed http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/m-r-package-team-mapping.html15:37
cpaelzerand if I read https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/node-jquery/+publishinghistory correctly we'd have to ask vorlon15:37
sarnoldI can't spot a bug15:37
sarnoldhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/node-jquery/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=OPINION&field.status%3Alist=INVALID&field.status%3Alist=WONTFIX&field.status%3Alist=EXPIRED&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.status%3Alist=FIXRELEASED15:37
sarnold&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field15:37
sarnold.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on15:37
sarnoldwow15:37
dokoin groovy15:38
cpaelzerit was promoted in groovy, but why is the question I guess (and once solved fixing up subscriptions to the pkg)15:39
ItzSwirlzhaving no bugs in a package thats been around for15:39
ItzSwirlz~10 releases is kinda sus ngl15:39
dokoanyway, I'll demote and see what breaks ...15:39
cpaelzerthat is an option as well15:39
sarnoldwfm :)15:40
cpaelzerif anything breaks you might ask vorlon in whatever the next foundation meeting is15:40
cpaelzeras he seems to have promoted it he might have extar context15:40
cpaelzernext mismatches are u-boot-menu and opensbi15:40
cpaelzerraspi related ?15:40
sarnoldItzSwirlz: especially since bugreporters surprisingly often just pick packages at random..15:40
cpaelzeror risc15:41
cpaelzeropensbi rings a risc bell to me15:41
cpaelzercommit 6e2571375f95c01bc26f912b1de20909b8f2e54715:43
cpaelzerAuthor: Dimitri John Ledkov <xnox@ubuntu.com>15:43
cpaelzerDate:   Wed Nov 25 13:37:08 2020 +000015:43
cpaelzer    supported-cloud: add RISC-V packages15:43
sarnoldgiven how new the riscv platform is it feels very early to me to be bringing in a 'supervisory binary interface'15:43
cpaelzerxnox: will there be MIRs filed for these since you added them to the seeds?15:43
cpaelzernext is ruby-defaults -> rubygems15:44
dokosarnold: do we have a chance to go without it?15:44
dokorubygems was in precise in main ...15:44
dokoisn't this some split-out?15:45
cpaelzeryeah and mostly removed rom everything else15:45
cpaelzerit was onyl coming back to hirsute - and in Debian also is only in unstable15:45
cpaelzermy ping to solve this would go to kanashiro but he's not aroudn this week15:46
dokohowever rubygems-integration was in main15:46
cpaelzerthe question is "re-promote on the base of the old MIR" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gem2deb/+bug/894827 or do we need something else?15:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 894827 in rubygems (Ubuntu) "[MIR] gem2deb" [Undecided,Fix released]15:46
cpaelzerIt also has ~25 test issues in excuses15:47
cpaelzerso it won't move to -release even if promoted15:47
sarnoldouch15:47
dokowell, lets wait15:47
cpaelzeragreed15:47
cpaelzerxnox: you can answer later about opensbi and u-boot-menu when you see the ping15:48
cpaelzerthat concludes todays component mismatch oddities15:48
cpaelzer#topic Any other business?15:48
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didrocks999nothing for me15:49
dokosarnold: discount status?15:49
sarnolddoko: no movement, sorry15:49
dokosarnold: if the security-team would join +1 maitenance, you would see the pain and extra work that this causes :-(15:49
cpaelzerin general security reviews seem rather stuck recently, I gues overload is happening15:51
cpaelzeror reviews just happen on a lot of things not related to ine ...15:51
cpaelzermine15:51
cpaelzersarnold: can you carry the pain-FYI to the Team so everone is aware?15:51
sarnoldnot, you're very right; due to losing several staff members we're heavily oversubscribed, 'tis the season to use unused PTO, and of course there's been glorious training modules to complete15:52
sarnoldcpaelzer: yes15:52
cpaelzerthanks15:53
cpaelzerlet us clsoe the meeting for today then15:53
cpaelzer#endmeeting15:53
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Dec  1 15:53:39 2020 UTC.15:53
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-12-01-15.31.moin.txt15:53
cpaelzerdoko: where do you want to continue the discussion on postgresql-12 next steps?15:53
sarnoldthanks cpaelzer, all15:53
didrocks999thanks!15:53
dokocan do here15:53
cpaelzerok15:53
cpaelzerso PG-12 is in excuses with a bunch of tests failing, we didn#t care for it as it is intended to be removed15:54
cpaelzerbut I wanted to remove PG-12 when PG-13 moved into hirsute and is promoted15:54
cpaelzerthat depends on perl atm15:54
cpaelzerwhat is the order of promotion/removal/other that you'd recommend15:54
doko-13 is not yet migrated15:54
cpaelzeryeah PG-13 depends on perl15:55
cpaelzerIÄve ensured it is otherwise ready15:55
cpaelzerso is the related postgresql-common v22315:55
dokoomnidb ftbfs15:55
cpaelzerhmm, I can look for that15:56
dokopgpointcloud/armhf ftbfs15:56
cpaelzershould not be related15:56
cpaelzerdoes that need to be resolved for PG-1315:56
cpaelzeranyway I can take a look as well- b'cause why not15:57
dokoand: Implicit dependency: perl postgresql-12 (not considered)15:57
dokofor perl.15:57
cpaelzerhrm15:57
dokoso perl won't migrate without -1215:57
cpaelzerso you are saying I need to get PG-12 working for PG-13 to migrate because perl links the two15:57
cpaelzerarrr15:57
dokoyes15:58
dokosorry15:58
cpaelzerI love fixing proposed if I'm not doing it 24/7 - so yeah I'll look into all of those15:58
cpaelzerbut maybe (only maybe) re'll remove PG-12 instead even before 13 migrates15:58
cpaelzerdepends how easy/hard those fails are PG-12 has15:58
dokobut then you need -13 in the release pocket ...15:59
* cpaelzer sigh15:59
cpaelzerok on it15:59
cpaelzerThen let me replace that with ... maybe test hints15:59
cpaelzerjust so I have the feeling of a chance to get it resolved :-)16:00
cpaelzerNotes on PG related tasks taken and will look into them ...16:00
cpaelzerthanks doko for sorting out next steps for these!16:01
dokocpaelzer: yes, proposed a hint with the note that it will be removed anyway16:01
luna_Any kernel meeting today or still not?16:41
luna_also are you rebuilding the 5.9.11 kernels ?16:42
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