[23:01] <toddy> hello everybody
[23:01] <linaporras> Hello!!!
[23:01] <ItzSwirlz> o/
[23:02] <wxl> oi
[23:02] <toddy> hi wxl
[23:02] <wxl> hey there
[23:04] <wxl> jose teward Eickmeyer[m] nhaines awaken
[23:04] <teward> DERP!
[23:04] <teward> *explodes the world*
[23:04] <teward> *falls on wxl and squishes them*
[23:06] <teward> who's the chair today
[23:06] <teward> or is it just perpetually me
[23:07] <toddy> hmm, yes
[23:07] <teward> well we only have from what i can tell 3 here
[23:07] <teward> 'cause lina ping timedout
[23:07] <teward> maybe I should wait a few min?
[23:07] <teward> *throws explosives at jose*
[23:07] <toddy> ok
[23:08] <jose> I'm here
[23:09] <jose> who's here
[23:09] <jose> roll call
[23:09] <jose> wxl?
[23:09] <jose> teward?
[23:09] <jose> nhaines?
[23:09] <jose> toddy?
[23:09] <toddy> o/
[23:09] <teward> 1 moment
[23:09] <teward> err: phonecall
[23:09] <jose> you're here you replied
[23:10] <teward> so that's 4
[23:10] <jose> Eickmeyer[m]?
[23:10] <jose> wxl replied in private
[23:10] <teward> #startmeeting Ubuntu Community Council Meeting
[23:10] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Dec  2 23:10:44 2020 UTC.  The chair is teward. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[23:10] <teward> #chairs teward jose toddy wxl
[23:11] <teward> #chair teward jose toddy wxl
[23:11] <meetingology> Current chairs: jose teward toddy wxl
[23:11] <teward> there we go
[23:12] <teward> Hello everyone!
[23:12] <teward> and welcome back to another CC meeting!
[23:12] <teward> #topic Review Previous Action Items
[23:12] <teward> So I don't see the agenda give me a sec to pull the previous one up
[23:12] <wxl> about that: where are our meeting minutes from last time? i didn't see them on discourse
[23:12] <teward> jose never posted them :p
[23:12] <jose> thank you for reminding me
[23:13] <jose> does anyone else have the availability to post them?
[23:13] <teward> so the last meeting there was only one action item I think?
[23:13] <toddy> here ist the log: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-11-18-23.07.moin.txt
[23:13] <teward> yep
[23:13] <teward> #subtopic teward to extend current TB members roles through EOY and notify TB about it as well.
[23:13] <teward> I did this, through Dec 30
[23:13] <teward> haven't gotten anything from Mark yet
[23:13] <teward> so that's still pending.
[23:13] <jose> toddy: Can you please post them in Discourse?
[23:14] <toddy> jose: I will do
[23:14] <jose> I'm meeting with Mark tomorrow to catch him up with the stuff we've been up to
[23:14] <jose> I was able to get ahold of 15mins in his cal
[23:14] <teward> ^ that
[23:14] <teward> #topic Meetings with Mark - 15 minutes tomorrow (jose)
[23:14] <teward> so things to get on his radar:
[23:14] <teward> TB nominations
[23:14] <jose> ^ that's #1
[23:14] <teward> update on our membership board nominations
[23:15] <teward> what else?
[23:15] <wxl> he sent me an email in response to mine about his vision for leadership and i have yet to get back to him to set an appointment
[23:15] <teward> wxl: i haven't seen that email, we probably need to be looped in?
[23:15] <teward> once the meeting is done anyways
[23:15] <wxl> yeah probably. i have no clue why he sent it to me alone
[23:16] <wxl> anyways i think it would be worthwhile to at least mention to him that that's on our minds and we'd like to set something up
[23:16] <teward> +1
[23:16] <jose> agree
[23:17] <wxl> other than that and the TB i don't have any pressing things that i feel we need to bring up to him
[23:17] <toddy> ok
[23:17] <wxl> i mean besides a general catch up
[23:17] <jose> yeah, I'll loop him in about the RMB elections and the LC Committee
[23:17] <teward> TB nominations come first
[23:17] <teward> we *need* a TB
[23:17] <teward> unless he wants us to start nominating ourselves
[23:17] <jose> correct
[23:18] <jose> I'll make sure that we get his perspective
[23:18] <jose> another option is to extend this TB through .04, and have elections for .04
[23:18] <jose> but I'll leave that as a last resort
[23:18] <toddy> wb linaporras
[23:19] <wxl> if it comes down to that, i'd agree with that
[23:19] <wxl> one thing mark mentioned if i got it right is that in some cases we may have stable leadership and maybe that's good enough
[23:20] <wxl> which is to say i think he means if people want to stay in leadership roles and they're doing a good job, let them be
[23:20] <wxl> which, applied here, may mean we do exactly that: just extend the tb
[23:20] <jose> of course, that's very fair
[23:20] <jose> if that's the case we might want to formalize that for the future as well
[23:20] <jose> I also want to make sure that we have enough of a fresh vision sometimes, I don't want someone to be able to take a leadership role perpetually
[23:21] <wxl> yeah and that's part of why i was reaching out to him about his vision for things as i kind of struggle with how to codify that
[23:21] <teward> ^ that
[23:21] <jose> want me to raise that if I have time?
[23:21] <teward> if you only have 15 minutes you won't have time :P
[23:21] <wxl> i think that's probably something for a focused meeting
[23:21] <wxl> right that
[23:22] <teward> so a subsequent meeting focusing on the codification and vision of things
[23:22] <jose> I've learned to have efficient meetings, but yes
[23:22] <teward> with that being the sole focus of that meeting
[23:22] <wxl> i'll reply to his email soon and cc everyone and we'll work on getting together on it. failing that, i'll take notes for everyone :)
[23:22] <jose> I intend to make that meeting a regular meeting (hopefully)
[23:22] <jose> I will present that as an option, bi-weekly or monthly could work
[23:22] <toddy> sounds good, wxl
[23:23] <wxl> i think that would be a very good idea, jose
[23:23] <linaporras54>  I agree, monthly would be awesome
[23:24] <jose> okay, anything else we might want to bring up?
[23:24] <wxl> to mark or in general?
[23:24] <jose> mark
[23:24] <wxl> not i
[23:25] <toddy> I would not know anything now
[23:25] <jose> okay
[23:25] <teward> well in absence of a tech board someone has to handle AAs - there's not enough of them I don't think to manage things in the tech side, but that can be brought to TB to bring to Mark at a later time
[23:25] <teward> right now's not a good point to bother Mark with that too ;)
[23:27] <jose> cool, next topic then
[23:27] <wxl> what is the next topic? XD
[23:27] <teward> #topic Membership Boards (RMB)
[23:28] <teward> We had the RMB vote recently, that was announced I believe and handled?
[23:28] <teward> and sent out to the relevant mailing lists I believe too.
[23:28] <jose> correct, all ready
[23:28] <toddy> I saw the mail. :)
[23:28] <jose> it will be in effect as of December 4th
[23:28] <teward> so we have the membership board there in place, effective Dec 4.
[23:28] <jose> I didn't think that setting them up now for the meeting tomorrow would be reasonable
[23:28] <teward> jose: agreed.
[23:29] <teward> i just want it noted that we DID do things on that.
[23:29] <linaporras54> thank u jose!
[23:29] <teward> so things aren't just dying there or in limbo.  So thanks jose for driving that :)
[23:29] <teward> #topic Any Other Business
[23:29] <teward> I don't think there's anything else pressing unless anyone else wants to bring something up?
[23:29] <wxl> any progress with getting access to the CC board on Discourse?
[23:33] <wxl> i'm calling that a no
[23:33] <teward> jose: ^ oyi answer wxl
[23:33] <jose> what a no?
[23:34] <teward> wxl> any progress with getting access to the CC board on Discourse?
[23:34] <jose> I already said, they're still looking into it
[23:34] <teward> didn't show up here
[23:34] <jose> wut
[23:34] <wxl> i think you said it IN YOUR MIND
[23:34] <jose>   <jose> not yet, they're trying to figure it out
 they are looking into the best way to do so
[23:34] <teward> never got relayed then
[23:34] <linaporras54> jajaja...
[23:34] <wxl> yeah didn't come through here
 also, other business: I send out the LC Committee draft over, please review and comment or just say +1 so that I know you reviewed
 based on that, we can create pages/info
[23:35] <wxl> #action everyone to review and comment (or at least +1) LC Committee draft
[23:35] <meetingology> ACTION: everyone to review and comment (or at least +1) LC Committee draft
[23:35] <wxl> anything else you thought you said, jose?
[23:35] <jose> nope, that's it
[23:35] <teward> awesome
[23:36] <wxl> ok then if there are no arguments, let's call this good in 10 seconds
[23:36] <toddy> ok
[23:36] <wxl> #endmeeting
[23:36] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Dec  2 23:36:20 2020 UTC.
[23:36] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-12-02-23.10.moin.txt
[23:36] <wxl> thanks everyone!
[23:36] <teward> *gives jose work today*
[23:37] <toddy> thanks everybody
[23:37] <wxl> i'll be nice and go do the minutes
[23:38] <teward> thanks wxl
[23:38] <teward> *gives wxl a medal*
[23:38] <teward> *goes to eat dinner*
[23:39] <wxl> quit your meddling, teward !
[23:39] <teward> there was a box of cookies to go with the medal but no cookies for you anymore.  *takes the cookies away*
[23:40] <wxl> curse you, you meddling kids!
[23:40] <linaporras54> XD