[06:05] <jibel> Good morning
[06:09] <duflu> Morning jibel 
[06:16] <jibel> hi duflu 
[06:33] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[06:37] <duflu> Morning seb128 
[06:39] <seb128> hey duflu , how are you?
[06:40] <duflu> seb128, I'm OK. You?
[06:40] <seb128> I'm alright!
[06:51] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:51] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN 
[06:53] <oSoMoN> hey duflu 
[06:56] <jibel> salut oSoMoN seb128 
[06:56] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, jibel 
[06:57] <oSoMoN> salut jibel, seb128 
[07:07] <ricotz> good morning
[07:07] <oSoMoN> good morning ricotz 
[07:12] <duflu> Hi ricotz 
[08:00] <didrocks> good morning
[08:00] <jibel> salut didrocks 
[08:04] <didrocks> hey jibel 
[08:11] <duflu> Morning didrocks 
[08:13] <marcustomlinson> morning all
[08:16] <didrocks> hey duflu, marcustomlinson 
[08:17] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson 
[08:40] <seb128> hey ricotz didrocks marcustomlinson , how are you?
[08:43] <didrocks> salut seb128, fatigué mais ça va :)
[08:43] <didrocks> et toi ?
[08:49] <seb128> hum, I had connected the wrong power plug, the laptop battery went flat and annoyingly it doesn't power on again before a few minutes of charge when then happens
[09:04] <Laney> yo
[09:06] <duflu> sup Laney
[09:06] <duflu> ?
[09:06] <seb128> hey Laney 
[09:19] <Laney> hey duflu seb128 
[09:31] <marcustomlinson> hey duflu didrocks seb128 Laney
[09:31] <marcustomlinson> seb128: doing ok thanks, you?
[09:37] <didrocks> HEY marcustomlinson!
[09:41] <jibel> good morning marcustomlinson 
[09:41] <jibel> and Laney 
[09:45] <didrocks> oh, and Laney, sure!
[09:46] <Laney> lol
[09:46]  * Laney feels wanted
[09:46] <Laney> hi marcustomlinson jibel didrocks 
[09:53] <didrocks> noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:53] <didrocks> no more kiki in the archive since focal :(
[09:59] <Laney> 's delivery service?
[10:01] <didrocks> the regexp tester!
[10:02] <didrocks> https://i.stack.imgur.com/7smzb.png
[10:06] <KGB-0> mutter pristine-tar d58def2 Simon McVittie mutter_3.38.2.orig.tar.xz.delta mutter_3.38.2.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for mutter_3.38.2.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3DKuV
[10:06] <KGB-0> mutter upstream/latest fefbd3e Simon McVittie * pushed 58 commits * https://deb.li/Bkm1
[10:07] <KGB-0> mutter tags 52f001c Simon McVittie upstream/3.38.2 * Upstream version 3.38.2 * https://deb.li/3TdQN
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[10:07] <KGB-0> gnome-shell upstream/latest 2f6a0c7 Simon McVittie * pushed 46 commits * https://deb.li/35kPF
[10:07] <KGB-0> gnome-shell tags 2c8868c Simon McVittie upstream/3.38.2 * Upstream version 3.38.2 * https://deb.li/PkBi
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[10:17] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extensions upstream/latest 9f25047 Simon McVittie * pushed 16 commits * https://deb.li/i3QcA
[10:18] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extensions upstream/3.38.x 9f25047 Simon McVittie * pushed 16 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/2aWF
[10:18] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extensions upstream/3.38.x 584016c Sergio Costas extensions/window-list/extension.js * window-list: Honor changes in skip-taskbar property * https://deb.li/3HQ81
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[10:18] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extensions upstream/3.38.x 435879c Florian Müllner extensions/workspace-indicator/extension.js * workspace-indicator: Adjust to overview changes * https://deb.li/REZC
[10:18] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extensions upstream/3.38.x e734fcb Florian Müllner extensions/window-list/workspaceIndicator.js * window-list: Adjust to overview changes * https://deb.li/3zAoG
[10:31] <seb128> didrocks, candidate for a snap instead? ;-)
[10:37] <didrocks> seb128: you volunteering? :p
[10:41] <seb128> not really no :p
[13:05] <dust> in the snap version of thunderbird it isnt possible to add a calendar from a local file... at creation there is no asking which file and its also not possible to edit the address of the file
[13:42] <oSoMoN> dust, would you mind filing a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+filebug ?
[14:20] <dust> oSoMoN, done
[14:23] <oSoMoN> excellent, thanks
[15:48] <seb128> is dpkg-gensymbols automatically writting an updated .symbols in the deb adding missing symbols with the current version?
[15:50] <Laney> not as far as I know, but it's got various levels of error reporting if you see the -c option
[15:54] <seb128> I'm a bit confused by that
[15:57] <seb128> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gTY5m5yw6c/
[15:57] <seb128> and rules doesn't have anything special
[15:57] <seb128> override_dh_makeshlibs:
[15:57] <seb128> 	dh_makeshlibs --add-udeb=libevdev2-udeb
[15:57] <seb128> no -c<level> or anything
[15:58] <seb128> also I learnt about (symver) in symbols today!
[16:01] <Laney> does the build log print a diff?
[16:01] <seb128> yes
[16:02] <seb128> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/509410962/buildlog_ubuntu-groovy-amd64.libevdev_1.9.1+dfsg-1ubuntu0.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[16:02] <seb128> dpkg-gensymbols: warning: some new symbols appeared in the symbols file: see diff output below
[16:02] <Laney> then yeah I think that is normal, the -c level controls when that fails and -c1 is the default which doesn't fail on new symbols
[16:02] <Laney> make it -c4
[16:03] <Laney> imho
[16:03] <seb128> right, I was just surprised that it ended up working
[16:03] <seb128> my review comment was 'libinput isn't going to have the right depends'
[16:03] <seb128> but he pointed out that it does
[16:03] <seb128> and he's right
[16:03] <seb128> the updates symbols ends up in DEBIAN/symbols
[16:03] <Laney> yeah but with the entire current version
[16:04] <seb128> right
[16:04] <seb128> sorry if I was not clear
[16:04] <Laney> np
[16:04] <seb128> I know -c4 would fail and is the right thing to do to make sure we update
[16:04] <seb128> and that he forgot to update the .symbols
[16:04] <seb128> I was just trying to understand why it worked
[16:05] <seb128> I guess dpkg-gensymbols does auto writting symbols with the current revision in DEBIAN/symbols even if they are not listed in debian/libname.symbols
[16:05] <seb128> which makes sense
[16:05] <KGB-0> gnome-shell-extensions tags e2f6748 Simon McVittie upstream/3.38.2 * Upstream version 3.38.2 * https://deb.li/3onCj
[16:05] <seb128> -c4 should really be the default btw :p
[16:06] <Laney> indeed
[16:30] <seb128> oSoMoN, is mozilla doing anything smart to turn a patch from bugzilla to a phabricator merge review or is that some extra steps?
[16:31] <oSoMoN> seb128, I'm not aware that they convert patch files to phabricator reviews, do they?
[16:32] <seb128> oSoMoN, I'm asking, I got lost in the documentation
[16:32] <oSoMoN> afaik they require you to submit your changes through moz-phab
[16:32] <seb128> oSoMoN, k, I'm reading mercurial stuff on https://developer.thunderbird.net/thunderbird-development/fixing-a-bug/using-mercurial-queues and attached a patch to bugzilla
[16:32] <seb128> the that doesn't mention much about phabricator though
[16:33] <seb128> https://developer.thunderbird.net/thunderbird-development/fixing-a-bug states
[16:33] <seb128> 'If everything looks good, you can access the selected bug in Bugzilla and click on the Attach File link located above the first comment.'
[16:33] <seb128> I wonder if that's outdated documentation or if thunderbird doesn't use phabricator
[16:33] <seb128> oh well, I will see what they say on the bug
[16:34] <oSoMoN> ah, so either the thunderbird team uses a different process than the firefox folks, or their documentation is outdated
[16:34] <hellsworth> haha i said good morning desktopers over on a gnome channel and wondered why i didn't hear from anyone :)
[16:34] <seb128> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1680527
[16:34] <seb128> hey Heather, how are you?
[16:34] <hellsworth> hey seb128 I'm good thanks :) you ?
[16:34] <seb128> I'm alright!
[16:35] <oSoMoN> seb128, everytime I get to read again the mozilla docs for contributing changes, I find it daunting and unnecessarily complex
[16:36] <oSoMoN> I wonder how many good contributions get lost because of that high barrier to entry
[16:36] <oSoMoN> good morning hellsworth 
[16:37] <hellsworth> hi there oSoMoN 
[16:38] <oSoMoN> seb128, IIRC in the past when I or others submitted raw patch files, we were asked to do it properly using phabricator, but I guess that was for firefox only, so maybe thunderbird devs are more permissive?
[16:39] <seb128> oSoMoN, well, it's submitted like that so let's see what they ask next!
[16:43] <oSoMoN> yeah, wait and see
[17:37] <KGB-2> orca pristine-tar 2acedf6 Samuel Thibault orca_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.delta orca_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz.id * pristine-tar data for orca_3.38.1.orig.tar.xz * https://deb.li/3u5Ue
[17:38] <KGB-2> orca upstream/stable fef70f2 Samuel Thibault * pushed 7 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/f5RD
[17:38] <KGB-2> orca upstream/stable ad04be6 Joanmarie Diggs README.md configure.ac * Post-release version bump * https://deb.li/M7OC
[17:38] <KGB-2> orca upstream/stable 5cdd8fc Henrique Machado Campos po/pt_BR.po * Update Brazilian Portuguese translation * https://deb.li/i41mG
[17:38] <KGB-2> orca upstream/stable 4f7d984 Juliano de Souza Camargo po/pt.po * Update Portuguese translation * https://deb.li/77Dl
[17:38] <KGB-2> orca upstream/stable e4d292f Simon Long src/orca/formatting.py * Add newRadioButtonGroup to formatting for unfocused radio button * https://deb.li/3F1sI
[17:38] <KGB-2> orca upstream/stable 89d4148 Joanmarie Diggs src/orca/speech_generator.py * Fix crash when generating speech for childless math element * https://deb.li/aCzE
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