| lordievader | Good morning | 07:22 |
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| RoyK | lordievader: morning | 10:19 |
| lordievader | Hey RoyK how are you doing? | 10:19 |
| eoli3n | where could i find differences between desktop and server isos ? | 13:30 |
| lotuspsychje | eoli3n: downloading the right link | 13:31 |
| eoli3n | read my question | 13:31 |
| lotuspsychje | you mean inside the iso? | 13:31 |
| eoli3n | what differs from a server install to desktop install ? | 13:31 |
| Ussat | Several things, what packages are installed mainly. Desktop has a GUI by default, server doies not | 13:42 |
| Ussat | You can put a GUI on a server, but meh....I see no reason to | 13:43 |
| Ussat | mainly what packages are installed by default | 13:43 |
| Ussat | if you really want ALL the differences, feel free to download them and compare package lists | 13:44 |
| Ussat | the "back end" is pretty much the same, its Linux | 13:44 |
| eoli3n | Ussat i install a desktop with server iso | 13:52 |
| eoli3n | i'm migrating from legacy deployment to uefi | 13:52 |
| eoli3n | with legacy i use netboot | 13:52 |
| eoli3n | but in uefi, i only can choose beetween ubuntu-server-live (900M) or ubunt-desktop-live (2.6G) | 13:53 |
| eoli3n | i use ubuntu server with autoinstall, at the end in late_command i run ansible in a chroot to finish configuration | 13:53 |
| eoli3n | (400 tasks, a big playbook, 400 packages) | 13:53 |
| Ussat | yes, and ? | 13:55 |
| eoli3n | then i wanted to know if my choice is ok, if i would use desktop iso instead | 13:55 |
| Ussat | it depends whaty you want. You can use either. | 13:55 |
| eoli3n | the lighest one is server, it seems to | 13:55 |
| Ussat | both will work | 13:55 |
| eoli3n | i want the lighest one, i just want to deboostrap the minimal system, ansible will install all needed packages | 13:56 |
| Ussat | Correct, server is lightest because it does not ahve all the desktop stuff baked in | 13:56 |
| Ussat | ok | 13:56 |
| eoli3n | thanks | 13:56 |
| Ussat | so, do that | 13:56 |
| Ussat | Thats exactly how I install my systems | 13:56 |
| eoli3n | second question is the reverted one | 13:56 |
| Ussat | both Ubuntu server and RHEL | 13:56 |
| eoli3n | will ubuntu server add some "stange" packages for a desktop ? | 13:56 |
| eoli3n | strange | 13:57 |
| Ussat | what do you mean strange packages. it only installs what you tell it to | 13:57 |
| Ussat | The "back end" of server and desktop are almost exactly the same | 13:57 |
| eoli3n | legacy netboot is minimal, but ubuntu-server might come with some extra tool, that i would remove with ansible | 13:57 |
| Ussat | So, I would do a test install, see whjats all installed and then yank out what you dont want | 13:58 |
| eoli3n | yep i will diff dpkg -l | 13:58 |
| eoli3n | i'm waiting for new install to finish | 13:58 |
| eoli3n | 45min... | 13:58 |
| Ussat | Just be sure you know what yopure yanking out | 13:58 |
| eoli3n | yanking ? | 13:59 |
| eoli3n | what does that mean ? | 13:59 |
| Ussat | pulling out, removing | 13:59 |
| eoli3n | yep | 13:59 |
| Ussat | same idea | 13:59 |
| eoli3n | avahi-daemon for exemple :) | 13:59 |
| eoli3n | netplan | 13:59 |
| Ussat | I like netplan, a LOT | 13:59 |
| eoli3n | but i don't need it | 14:00 |
| Ussat | well, you kinda do for networking | 14:00 |
| eoli3n | not really | 14:00 |
| eoli3n | if i remember well i do not use any network manager | 14:00 |
| eoli3n | i just set dhcp for my main interface in /etc/network/interfaces | 14:00 |
| Ussat | iF Yok, IF YOU WANT | 14:01 |
| Ussat | if you want. | 14:01 |
| eoli3n | ahaha | 14:01 |
| eoli3n | touret ? | 14:01 |
| eoli3n | :P | 14:01 |
| eoli3n | why would you use netplan ? | 14:02 |
| eoli3n | for the yaml syntax ? | 14:02 |
| Ussat | becauyse for a server, netplan is very flexible. | 14:11 |
| ogra | also /etc/network/interfaces is dead and gone since years ... | 14:29 |
| ogra | (in debian as well as ubuntu) | 14:30 |
| eoli3n | hm | 14:35 |
| eoli3n | lets use netplan then | 14:35 |
| Ussat | I think I said that... | 14:38 |
| Ussat | That server iso is pretty minimal | 14:39 |
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| quadrathoch2 | ogra idk where you got it but debian still uses ifupdown by default | 15:23 |
| ogra | quadrathoch2, oh ? i thought they dropped it along with ifconfig ? | 16:06 |
| ogra | (like we did too) | 16:07 |
| quadrathoch2 | nope, still haning on tight :) (they dropped ifconfig) | 16:11 |
| quadrathoch2 | or rather net-tools | 16:11 |
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| eoli3n | Hi | 19:06 |
| eoli3n | how do you configure netplan with unpredictible network interface name ? | 19:07 |
| eoli3n | for systemd-netword backend | 19:07 |
| ogra | did you check https://netplan.io/examples/ yet ? | 19:08 |
| teward | you'd use a relevant match section eoli3n to match a component of the network device's config like MAC address, etc. | 19:32 |
| teward | review the examples | 19:32 |
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