[07:22] Good morning [10:19] lordievader: morning [10:19] Hey RoyK how are you doing? [13:30] where could i find differences between desktop and server isos ? [13:31] eoli3n: downloading the right link [13:31] read my question [13:31] you mean inside the iso? [13:31] what differs from a server install to desktop install ? [13:42] Several things, what packages are installed mainly. Desktop has a GUI by default, server doies not [13:43] You can put a GUI on a server, but meh....I see no reason to [13:43] mainly what packages are installed by default [13:44] if you really want ALL the differences, feel free to download them and compare package lists [13:44] the "back end" is pretty much the same, its Linux [13:52] Ussat i install a desktop with server iso [13:52] i'm migrating from legacy deployment to uefi [13:52] with legacy i use netboot [13:53] but in uefi, i only can choose beetween ubuntu-server-live (900M) or ubunt-desktop-live (2.6G) [13:53] i use ubuntu server with autoinstall, at the end in late_command i run ansible in a chroot to finish configuration [13:53] (400 tasks, a big playbook, 400 packages) [13:55] yes, and ? [13:55] then i wanted to know if my choice is ok, if i would use desktop iso instead [13:55] it depends whaty you want. You can use either. [13:55] the lighest one is server, it seems to [13:55] both will work [13:56] i want the lighest one, i just want to deboostrap the minimal system, ansible will install all needed packages [13:56] Correct, server is lightest because it does not ahve all the desktop stuff baked in [13:56] ok [13:56] thanks [13:56] so, do that [13:56] Thats exactly how I install my systems [13:56] second question is the reverted one [13:56] both Ubuntu server and RHEL [13:56] will ubuntu server add some "stange" packages for a desktop ? [13:57] strange [13:57] what do you mean strange packages. it only installs what you tell it to [13:57] The "back end" of server and desktop are almost exactly the same [13:57] legacy netboot is minimal, but ubuntu-server might come with some extra tool, that i would remove with ansible [13:58] So, I would do a test install, see whjats all installed and then yank out what you dont want [13:58] yep i will diff dpkg -l [13:58] i'm waiting for new install to finish [13:58] 45min... [13:58] Just be sure you know what yopure yanking out [13:59] yanking ? [13:59] what does that mean ? [13:59] pulling out, removing [13:59] yep [13:59] same idea [13:59] avahi-daemon for exemple :) [13:59] netplan [13:59] I like netplan, a LOT [14:00] but i don't need it [14:00] well, you kinda do for networking [14:00] not really [14:00] if i remember well i do not use any network manager [14:00] i just set dhcp for my main interface in /etc/network/interfaces [14:01] iF Yok, IF YOU WANT [14:01] if you want. [14:01] ahaha [14:01] touret ? [14:01] :P [14:02] why would you use netplan ? [14:02] for the yaml syntax ? [14:11] becauyse for a server, netplan is very flexible. [14:29] also /etc/network/interfaces is dead and gone since years ... [14:30] (in debian as well as ubuntu) [14:35] hm [14:35] lets use netplan then [14:38] I think I said that... [14:39] That server iso is pretty minimal === denningsrogue8 is now known as denningsrogue [15:23] ogra idk where you got it but debian still uses ifupdown by default [16:06] quadrathoch2, oh ? i thought they dropped it along with ifconfig ? [16:07] (like we did too) [16:11] nope, still haning on tight :) (they dropped ifconfig) [16:11] or rather net-tools === JanC is now known as Guest22061 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [19:06] Hi [19:07] how do you configure netplan with unpredictible network interface name ? [19:07] for systemd-netword backend [19:08] did you check https://netplan.io/examples/ yet ? [19:32] you'd use a relevant match section eoli3n to match a component of the network device's config like MAC address, etc. [19:32] review the examples