| sunrunner20 | is there a way to enable root on ZFS for Ubuntu Server? | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| sunrunner20 | at install time | 00:04 |
| sunrunner20 | rather than building it | 00:05 |
| sarnold | sunrunner20: the ubuntu server installer doesn't offer that yet | 00:06 |
| sarnold | sunrunner20: there's guides for how to do an ubuntu root on zfs install yourself | 00:06 |
| sarnold | sunrunner20: https://openzfs.github.io/openzfs-docs/Getting%20Started/Ubuntu/Ubuntu%2020.04%20Root%20on%20ZFS.html | 00:06 |
| sarnold | sunrunner20: I followed the 18.04 instructions when I did my laptop install with 19.10; it wasn't super fun but it worked :) these should probably do the trick | 00:07 |
| sunrunner20 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr0JaXfKj68 | 00:07 |
| sarnold | oh man I should rewatch that :) | 00:10 |
| sunrunner20 | lol it is good | 00:30 |
| PeGaSuS | so, seems that netplan has some `test` command to migrate from ifupdown. I've used `ENABLE_TEST_COMMANDS=1 netplan migrate` and it did the job :) | 00:32 |
| sarnold | PeGaSuS: oh sweet! thanks for reporting back :D | 00:36 |
| PeGaSuS | sarnold: no problem! seems it is able to convert the ifupdown configuration after a fresh install. not sure if it will work if you've already edited the ifupdown interfaces. I've found out the tip here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netplan.io/+bug/1772893 | 00:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1772893 in netplan.io (Ubuntu) "netplan has no migrate command" [Undecided,Won't fix] | 00:38 |
| sarnold | very cool | 00:39 |
| sarnold | given the fact that ifupdown pretty much lets you just run arbitrary commands, it's a bit hard to automate a conversion | 00:40 |
| sarnold | but I'd expect most folks to have simpler files, and *something* is better than nothing | 00:40 |
| PeGaSuS | indeed. and, IMHO, netplan is easier to configure. I've seen some `weird` setups using bridges and whatnot and all seems pretty intuitive | 00:43 |
| sarnold | where I find netplan difficult is that it 'just' prepares configs for systemd-network, and networkctl isn't the most obvious thing ever.. it feels like there's a missing "just show me what you're doing when you do it" sort of mode | 00:45 |
| PeGaSuS | well, for people like me, that only needs to add/remove some IPv6, it's quite easy | 00:46 |
| sarnold | I think some of my complaints comes from my first 'real' use of it on an rpi3b+, which was super-cranky to get up and running in the first place | 00:48 |
| sarnold | the nic(s?) required firmware and those didn't load.. | 00:48 |
| evrt | Hi! I recently installed Ubuntu 20.10 on my new laptop, and decided to give ZFS a try for the first time. Unfortunately the experience hasn't been very good. The 'zed' process often goes into loops and i'm getting countless messages in my syslog | 00:50 |
| evrt | I wanted to ask here if, despite the ubuntu team making it an installer option, it's really not that stable, or if people with experience with ZFS feel that it's more likely that my experience is unique and perhaps something hardware related | 00:51 |
| compdoc | evrt, sounds like zed isnt configured. I have mine set to only tell me when scrubs start and end | 00:53 |
| evrt | hmm, my understanding from reseaching is that zed goes into some kind of garbage collection loop, and only systemctl restart zsysd causes it to get back into a normal state.. | 00:54 |
| evrt | but is configuring zed something that is expected to be required after a fresh install? | 00:55 |
| evrt | i just accepted all the defaults | 00:55 |
| compdoc | so what do the messages warn about? | 00:55 |
| evrt | Dec 2 00:00:18 evertbook6 zed: eid=133321 class=history_event pool_guid=0x67317F56DC5FF3C1Dec 2 00:00:18 evertbook6 zed[3438]: Missed 1 events | 00:56 |
| evrt | over and over again. I usually notice when I start feeling the heat coming from my laptop :P | 00:56 |
| compdoc | It seems that each time a dataset that also uses =zfs-auto-snapshot= is replicated, a =history_event= for the =com.sun:auto-snapshot-desc= property in each snapshot is logged. This easily spams the logs with thousands of redundant, and rather useless messages as described in #6886, so adding a facility to trim down the noise without disabling the syslog feature altogether seems to be in order. | 01:06 |
| compdoc | This is properly handled in /etc/zed.d/all-syslog.sh by filtering | 01:07 |
| compdoc | against ZEVENT_SUBCLASS==history_event | 01:07 |
| evrt | ah ok. The syslog is not my main concern though, it's the zed going into a loop that I can only interrupt my restarting the service. The logs are actually kind of helpful because it's an easy way to confirm it's happening (other than high CPU usage) | 01:07 |
| plujon | I upgraded to 20.04 LTS, and I need a non-snap version of chromium. How can I do that most easily? | 01:08 |
| evrt | but either way it all feels like I'm on new grounds and maybe I shouldn't have opted for something that's a bit more experimental than my tolerance level. It's the filesystem after all, so pretty important :P | 01:09 |
| compdoc | yeah. i use zfs for large arrays and mirrors, but I have never used it for the OS | 01:10 |
| compdoc | I like simple | 01:10 |
| compdoc | is it hdd or ssd? | 01:11 |
| evrt | yeahh.. same. I was just excited for the snapshot features and stuff =) | 01:11 |
| evrt | it's ssd | 01:11 |
| evrt | got a xps13 9310, but everything feels a tad unstable. | 01:12 |
| compdoc | how old is the ssd? | 01:12 |
| evrt | i got the computer about a month ago | 01:12 |
| evrt | my understanding is that they're fresh out the factory. | 01:13 |
| compdoc | I expect to install an OS a couple times to get it right | 01:13 |
| evrt | hah yeah same :P | 01:13 |
| compdoc | I upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 and its been very smooth | 01:14 |
| evrt | i also think things should be a bit better with the 5.9 kernel for my chipset, but I'll have to wait till ubuntu 21.04. Don't wanna run non-standard kernels | 01:14 |
| compdoc | on my servers too | 01:14 |
| evrt | my prime motivator for 20.10 was a new Thunderbird version of all things =) | 01:14 |
| evrt | anyway, thank you for the chat! have a good evening | 01:15 |
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| claude_berserke | After an update, Opera was updated, much to my dismay. | 01:29 |
| claude_berserke | Attempted to remove the current version by; | 01:29 |
| claude_berserke | sudo apt-get remove opera-stable | 01:29 |
| claude_berserke | response was "not installed" | 01:29 |
| claude_berserke | dpkg --list shows the following; | 01:29 |
| claude_berserke | rc opera-stable 70.0.3728.95 amd64 | 01:29 |
| claude_berserke | Most of the installed apps have "ii" where this output has "rc" | 01:29 |
| claude_berserke | what is this? file characteristics? what do they mean? | 01:29 |
| claude_berserke | I am annoyed by my error in updating Opera by accident as the current versions are crap and do not work. I would like to remove what has been installed and revert to a historical version that is fully operational. | 01:29 |
| Bashing-om | claude_berserke: "rc" == (r)emoved but (c)onfig files remain. as to opera: not an ubuntu repo package. What is in the PPA ? | 01:33 |
| claude_berserke | I do not have an opera ppa so I am assuming it was updated through an ubuntu repository | 01:35 |
| Bashing-om | !info opera | claude_berserke | 01:36 |
| ubottu | claude_berserke: Package opera does not exist in focal | 01:36 |
| Bashing-om | !info opera | bionic | 01:36 |
| ubottu | bionic: Package opera does not exist in focal | 01:36 |
| Bashing-om | !info opera bionic | 01:37 |
| ubottu | Package opera does not exist in bionic | 01:37 |
| sarnold | I don't see any opera debs in my local ubuntu archive mirror, wehich covers precise through hirsuite | 01:39 |
| Bashing-om | claude_berserke: I would expect the opera PPA to be in the 3rd party directory ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' to see. | 01:41 |
| claude_berserke | Bashing-om: I had the same problem befor (removing installed version) and attempted overwriting with an archived version. It did work and the version installed did work. I am just looking to remove the current (non working) version completely. | 01:44 |
| claude_berserke | Bashing-om: so I need to look into removing ther config files, thank you. | 01:46 |
| Bashing-om | claude_berserke: Consult then the PPA docs for opera. I imigine the PPA maintains older versions - but do make sure that the version is compatible with the installed libs on the system. | 01:46 |
| DarkTrick | I'm trying to install docker.io, but apt fails at `Get`ing "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy/main amd64 runc amd64 1.0.0~rc10-0ubuntu2" | 01:47 |
| DarkTrick | Opening the website itself seems to be no problem | 01:48 |
| claude_berserke | Bashing-om: Thank you I will. I actually did not install through ppa but downloaded a historical version and installd with package installer. Probably why there wwere errors with the package. | 01:50 |
| DarkTrick | solved: apt update --fix-missing solved it | 01:50 |
| soft_concrete | Is there anything I need to know before I update from 20.04 to 20.10? Besides "make a backup first" | 01:52 |
| soft_concrete | This is my first time upgrading Ubuntu. I've only used Ubuntu for a couple of months | 01:52 |
| Bashing-om | claude_berserke: Same same here with an install of "slimjet". I also installed the browser via a .deb file. | 01:52 |
| Kisama | Are you using laptop or pc? | 01:53 |
| Bashing-om | soft_concrete: Make sure you have fully updated and PPAs reverted ( includes any proprietary grahic's drivers). You are aware that 20.10 only has 9 months of support ? | 01:54 |
| Kisama | be careful with your network | 01:55 |
| sarnold | soft_concrete: it's always worth checking the release notes before an upgrade https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/groovy-gorilla-release-notes/15533 | 01:56 |
| soft_concrete | Bashing-om: I used to run Arch, so non-LTS releases are hardly bleeding edge to me.. but yes I'm aware :) | 01:56 |
| soft_concrete | sarnold: thanks, I'll check that out | 01:56 |
| claude_berserke | Bashing-om: I figured the errors were because I did not completely remove the entire app and left over files were not completely compatible with earlier versions. | 01:56 |
| Bashing-om | claude_berserke: Good call :P | 01:59 |
| claude_berserke | Bashing-om: good news all gone. sudo dpkg --purge opera-stable | 02:08 |
| claude_berserke | Bashing-om: Thank You. | 02:08 |
| Kisama | Gnight everyone | 02:08 |
| Bashing-om | claude_berserke: You did all the work :P Glad ya got it all sorted out :) | 02:09 |
| claude_berserke | Bashing-om: Have a good night. Stay away from sick people. | 02:10 |
| Kisama | Thank you | 02:10 |
| Kisama | lol | 02:10 |
| soft_concrete | Does using Wayland rather than X11 improve screen tearing with fractional display scaling (I use 125%)? | 02:15 |
| sarnold | it feels ever so slightly possible; I've heard wayland can remove one frame of latency anyway | 02:19 |
| * soft_concrete sends the channel a glass of egg nog | 02:24 | |
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| Hash | What kind of X is in 20.04? | 02:48 |
| Hash | Wayland or Xorg? | 02:49 |
| Hash | I dunno this. | 02:49 |
| mozzarella | Hash: wayland isn't a "kind of X" | 02:50 |
| mozzarella | you'd call X a display server, not sure if wayland calls itself that, they're kind of different in design | 02:52 |
| sarnold | Hash: both are available, xorg is default | 02:54 |
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| Hash | I would like to a package I rebuild from source after patching and I want to make it pinned | 02:58 |
| Hash | I forgot how to pin a package version of package you made yorueslf | 02:58 |
| Bashing-om | !pin | Hash | 03:00 |
| ubottu | Hash: pinning is an advanced feature that APT can use to prefer particular packages over others. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto | 03:00 |
| Hash | https://bpa.st/UCMA | 03:00 |
| Hash | This is the current policy. | 03:00 |
| Hash | I did apt-get source plasma-framework, patched it, built it, installed it. I would like to make sure any future updates don't overinstall this package | 03:01 |
| Hash | *** 5.68.0-0ubuntu1.1 so I'm guessing the policy states priority 100 is my package the .1 and the repo package is not .1 with 500 priority | 03:01 |
| Hash | So I'm thinking I should change the priorities? Make mine higher than repo? Does that sound right? | 03:01 |
| sarnold | Hash: I think a hold might be easier than pinning | 03:02 |
| Hash | Oh? | 03:02 |
| sarnold | http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/man8/apt-mark.8.html | 03:02 |
| Hash | Interesting. | 03:02 |
| Hash | $ sudo apt-mark hold plasma-framework | 03:03 |
| Hash | plasma-framework set on hold. | 03:03 |
| Hash | I guess that's it | 03:03 |
| sarnold | it can cause some pretty confusing do-release-upgrade errors -- so when it's time to upgrade to an entirely new release, remember this moment :) | 03:03 |
| Hash | Oh yeah, I'm sure I'll find out | 03:03 |
| Hash | If not, ... actually I should just create a patch for it. But then my concern is, if package source chagnes, patch might fail | 03:03 |
| Hash | Hmm. | 03:04 |
| Hash | I had to revert dialog.cpp two functions reltated to panels, so now KDE works with Xmonad again. Yay | 03:04 |
| Hash | package policy doesn't tell me if it's held. | 03:05 |
| Hash | hi plasma-framework 5.68.0-0ubuntu1.1 amd64 Plasma Runtime components | 03:05 |
| Hash | Found it in dpkg -l. Hmm. Ok thanks that was helpful. | 03:06 |
| sarnold | Hash: apt-mark showhold or dpkg --get-selections also report it | 03:06 |
| Kisama | .graph1h btc | 03:06 |
| sarnold | funny, though, I *so* often look for installed things with dpkg -l 'foo*' | grep ^ii ... and this breaks that. I wonder who else makes the same mistake. | 03:06 |
| Hash | I used to use aptitude and flags. | 03:08 |
| Hash | I wonder why they discontinued it in favor of apt | 03:08 |
| Hash | I used to be a maint and dev and then I left the project circia 2010 | 03:08 |
| plujon | Is there a common way to get a non-snap version of chromium on Ubuntu? | 03:08 |
| Bashing-om | Hash: Like this: https://etbe.coker.com.au/2020/12/04/kde-icons-disappearing-unstable/ ? | 03:08 |
| Hash | I have no idea what's going on with Debian. I switched to Ubuntu in '16 | 03:08 |
| Hash | No | 03:08 |
| Hash | One sec | 03:08 |
| sarnold | plujon: maybe google offers a build? there may also be a flatpak, not sure | 03:09 |
| plujon | sarnold: Thanks, But I suspect a flatpak has the same drawbacks as a snap. | 03:09 |
| Bashing-om | plujon: No, however there are some 3rd party spins that have chromium as the base. | 03:09 |
| Hash | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=396177 for Bashing-om | 03:09 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 396177 in libplasmaquick "Plasmashell dialog regression when KDE is used with Xmonad introduced by fix for 381242" [Normal,Confirmed] | 03:09 |
| lotuspsychje | 18.04 has also still the apt chromium i think? | 03:09 |
| Hash | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=381242 Bashing-om | 03:09 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 381242 in Panel "Application Launcher stops working when "Minimize All Windows" widgets is clicked" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 03:09 |
| Hash | https://www.mail-archive.com/kde-bugs-dist@kde.org/msg252889.html | 03:10 |
| plujon | Bashing-om: third party "spins"? | 03:10 |
| Hash | It's because Qt 5.10 changed some stuff and they had to do a fix, and that fix breaks Xmoand functionality | 03:10 |
| Bashing-om | plujon: Well - I run "slimjet" as my chromium replacement. YMMV! | 03:11 |
| Hash | https://github.com/xmonad/xmonad/issues/174#issuecomment-406886552 Bashing-om | 03:11 |
| Hash | That's the proposed fix, to just revert two functions to before KDE introduced this fix | 03:11 |
| Bashing-om | Hash: KDE works hard on thier desktop :D | 03:11 |
| plujon | Why is chromium a snap in the first place? | 03:12 |
| mefistofeles | plujon: spy software! | 03:12 |
| Hash | These days everything is a snap | 03:12 |
| lotuspsychje | mefistofeles: dont please | 03:13 |
| Hash | I use chrome. I like google knowing what I do. It makes my life easier. | 03:13 |
| sarnold | plujon: probably to simplify building it, as backporting compilers / libraries / etc to older releases takes time, but bundling up a snap doesn't require rebuilding for every release. that's my guess anyway. | 03:13 |
| Hash | That's one of the reasons snap is good and also endorsed by Linus T. | 03:14 |
| Hash | One of the biggest problems in linux is software packaging | 03:14 |
| matsaman | snap is a clusterfsck | 03:14 |
| Hash | Tons of distros, package mangers, abi/api/lib version dependencies, it's a real mess. | 03:14 |
| matsaman | it's really not | 03:14 |
| Hash | Not as bad as the foss ecosystem. | 03:14 |
| matsaman | the whole point of a distro is to have its own package manager | 03:14 |
| matsaman | so to say distros aren't interoperable is pointless | 03:14 |
| Hash | I've never understood that. It's like everyone and their cousin thinks they know how to do things in the 'best way'. So that's their way. The way of their distro. | 03:15 |
| lotuspsychje | !discuss | 03:15 |
| ubottu | Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 03:15 |
| lotuspsychje | please stick to ubuntu support issues | 03:15 |
| mefistofeles | snap was tailor made to be able to package and run closed source software in Linux, imho. Which is not necessarily a bad thing. | 03:16 |
| matsaman | Hash: it's not really, there are precious few distros that aren't just a wholesale copy of an actual, non-derivative distro | 03:16 |
| Hash | The only reason I used Ubuntu was out of laziness. | 03:16 |
| Hash | Things are easily setup, less manual work than debian. | 03:16 |
| Hash | But then you have to deal with the community of mostly non so much techy people. | 03:17 |
| lotuspsychje | mefistofeles: matsaman Hash use the discuss channel please | 03:17 |
| Hash | More gui ways of doing things. It's a hassle. Anyway | 03:17 |
| Hash | Good day! | 03:17 |
| lotuspsychje | leave the channel free for users that need help | 03:17 |
| mefistofeles | lotuspsychje: ok | 03:17 |
| Hash | I looked at the bug report you posted Bashing-om | 03:19 |
| mefistofeles | Qt 5.10 did change some crucial things, I heard there were issues with multiple external displays as well, for laptops | 03:20 |
| Hash | Bashing-om: if that is reported by you, I might try disabling compositing or gl acceleration and test the icons agian | 03:20 |
| Bashing-om | Hash: Naw - just a case I was aware of that I thought might be of interet to you also. | 03:21 |
| Hash | *nod* ty | 03:21 |
| Hash | I use multihead, but I use Xmonad primarily and not KDE workspaces | 03:22 |
| Hash | No idea there. My multi head setup works fine. I use noveau driver and xrandr does it automatically | 03:23 |
| Hash | One thing someone might know about: When I use noveau driver in Ubuntu, when I do alt+f2 or use tty2 without logging into Xorg, my console is high resolution, nice fonts, huge desktop | 03:23 |
| Hash | When I use the nvidia 340 legaacy driver in ubuntu for my gpu, the tty2 and other consoles have really large fonts, and not a high resolution tty anymore. | 03:24 |
| Hash | Does anyone know why this happens? | 03:24 |
| Hash | I cannot take a screenshot, but I'd have to reboot and take a picture with phone, and have to switch to nvidia to show you | 03:24 |
| mefistofeles | yeah, i think this is because of lack of dkms support | 03:24 |
| Hash | I dunno what that is or does. Can you tell me more? | 03:25 |
| mefistofeles | but you could force GRUB (if that's the boot loader you are using) to use a better resolution | 03:25 |
| sarnold | Hash: how quickly does that high-res console thing scroll? | 03:25 |
| Hash | oh? | 03:25 |
| sarnold | Hash: I used fbdev console ~20 years ago for fun and left when I got tired of the glacial scrolling | 03:25 |
| Hash | sarnold: a bit slower than the big font one, you know the big fonts you see when you do bios post? stuff like that, basic 12x8 ro somethign I can't rmember | 03:25 |
| Hash | Well I mean it has to render colors in high resolution with fonts so a bit slower yeah | 03:26 |
| sarnold | Hash: yeah, that's the one I wind up seeing often now :) heh | 03:26 |
| Hash | The bigger font stuff tty in the nvidia driver, scrolls normally fast | 03:26 |
| sarnold | Hash: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/fb/fbcon.html | 03:26 |
| mefistofeles | it may be an illusion, seems faster because there's less space, not sure | 03:27 |
| sarnold | Hash: *probably* this is what you're seeing when you're using noveau | 03:27 |
| Hash | I don't need to. I do fine without nvidia. Gaming works fine with noveau driver on my gtx 275 | 03:27 |
| Hash | Yeah, with nvidia driver, I dont get anything but a normal bit font DOS looklike screen. | 03:28 |
| Hash | Also,is it possible to do dual head without xorg? | 03:28 |
| Hash | say in cli, both monitor display the same terminal. | 03:28 |
| Hash | I want each mojnitor to be on a diff tty | 03:28 |
| Hash | If you guys know anything :) | 03:28 |
| sarnold | Hash: I've never seen dual-seat without X | 03:29 |
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| Hash | Neither have I. :/ I mean with a KVM switch and two pcs, sure. | 03:29 |
| Hash | Heh. | 03:29 |
| sarnold | I've seen blog posts / articles etc about dual-seat with X, but it always felt like a killer feature that I'm surprised we haven't seen more of | 03:30 |
| sarnold | "share one computer among four students" kind of thing feels like something schools would like, or libraries, etc.. | 03:31 |
| sarnold | alright, time to go, have fun Hash :) | 03:32 |
| matsaman | they're too busy teaching people software that only works on one computer at a time with a license for each installation | 03:32 |
| Hash | Good night folks | 03:32 |
| matsaman | night | 03:32 |
| Hash | ty sarnold | 03:32 |
| Kisama | good night Hash | 03:32 |
| hohosam | hi,guys | 03:45 |
| hohosam | anyone is using amd ryzen7 4000series cpu laptop?for example,R7-4800U | 03:46 |
| Kisama | maybe someone but what's your question? | 03:49 |
| hohosam | there is nosound in my laptop while using 20.04/20.10 gnome edition,try some methods in google/stackoverflow,but it works when configured,and still back to no sound when reboot.it seems cannot find the correct sound card | 03:51 |
| Kisama | Why not trying with another distro? check if the problem is on the distro or yor your laptop | 03:53 |
| hohosam | i have ever used mint20,it based on ubuntu20.04 but sounds work fine.so i go to mate-edition to ask if someone is using the same hardware,but no answerd,so i go here to see if someone do use it,but it seems not:) | 03:56 |
| Kisama | yep, sorry | 03:59 |
| Guest20 | how to check the environment variables used by a process? | 04:05 |
| rurt91 | w | 04:29 |
| rurt91 | Guest20: https://www.google.com/search?q=check+environment+variables+of+process+unix&hl=en | 04:29 |
| rurt91 | Guest20: found it on google on first try | 04:29 |
| Rexodus | w | 04:41 |
| Rexodus | rurt91: TnX :) | 04:42 |
| reaga | my ubuntu wont work with displayport when i have nvidia drivers | 05:05 |
| reaga | its totally black, but ubuntu thinks its working fully | 05:05 |
| reaga | so i can drag windows etc to the monitor but it wont display anything | 05:05 |
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| lambdaguy101 | i'm having some problems with ubuntu 20.10. everytime i try to install it, it says that the installer has crashed. when i try again, it says that ubi-partman exited with code 10. i'm asking here because nothing online helped me so far | 08:02 |
| lambdaguy101 | guess i am not going to get any help here | 08:06 |
| lambdaguy101 | i'm going to rephrase this: ubuntu 20.10 tells me that the installer has crashed at the end of the installation process, and when trying to install again, it says ubi-partman exited with code 10. when booting into the drive i installed ubuntu on, it works, but not how it should. i searched on the internet an answer to this problem, but no success. | 08:13 |
| lambdaguy101 | what can i do about this? | 08:13 |
| lotuspsychje | lambdaguy101: if you want volunteers to be able to help, try to catch your logs and put them into a pastebin to gather more details | 08:23 |
| lambdaguy101 | lotuspsychje i can't seem to be able to get the installation logs. what can i do about this? | 08:24 |
| lotuspsychje | lambdaguy101: if you install ubuntu from a liveusb, you can start ubiquity from terminal and catch more logs on journal | 08:24 |
| lambdaguy101 | lotuspsychje give me 1 sec | 08:25 |
| lambdaguy101 | lotuspsychje launching ubiquity from the terminal just says that the imp module is deprecated in favour of importlib. nothing else. | 08:31 |
| lambdaguy101 | and the installer crashed | 08:38 |
| lotuspsychje | lambdaguy101: try to open a journalctl -f too | 08:40 |
| lotuspsychje | use a pastebin to show your errors | 08:40 |
| lambdaguy101 | it just keeps saying about my mouse that it's lagging by a few ms | 08:41 |
| lambdaguy101 | let me try restarting my pc and attempting to do this again. i'll give you the logs in a few mins | 08:49 |
| locsmif_work | I have a link to a script in ~/.config/autostart. The script starts another script in the background and then disowns it. This works fine from the commandline, but when started this way, Unity complains that a "xxx is causing a problem". Why? | 09:02 |
| lotuspsychje | !pm | lambdaguy101 here please so other volunteers can also think along | 09:04 |
| ubottu | lambdaguy101 here please so other volunteers can also think along: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. | 09:04 |
| lambdaguy101 | ? | 09:05 |
| lambdaguy101 | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BBC6J9Y3mg the logs | 09:07 |
| deki_01 | Hi 2all! | 09:15 |
| deki_01 | what does this mean, I can not install wine 5.22 on Ubuntu 20.04 | 09:20 |
| deki_01 | dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/winehq-stable_5.0.3~focal_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/function_grep.pl', which is also in package wine64-development-tools 5.5-3ubuntu1 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/winehq-stable_5.0.3~focal_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 09:20 |
| lotuspsychje | deki_01: the packages on the ubuntu repos are divided for your ubuntu release version, that means you have to install wine from your release | 09:22 |
| lotuspsychje | deki_01: aka wine Version 5.0-3ubuntu1 | 09:22 |
| deki_01 | and is it possible to install the wine 5.22 | 09:24 |
| lotuspsychje | deki_01: its possible, but we dont support external debs/ppa's in the support channel here, you will have to contact wines website/support | 09:27 |
| lambdaguy101 | i still have the problems i have with ubuntu 20.10. | 09:29 |
| locsmif_work | lotuspsychje: we don't? | 09:30 |
| locsmif_work | Meaning you will forbid people to have a discussion about how to install them? | 09:30 |
| lotuspsychje | locsmif_work: we only support the packages from the official ubuntu repos | 09:31 |
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| deki_01 | hm I will try wine-development | 09:31 |
| lotuspsychje | and reccomend to use the packages meant for the ubuntu release | 09:32 |
| locsmif_work | lotuspsychje: who's we? | 09:33 |
| locsmif_work | There a 1000 people in this channel | 09:33 |
| locsmif_work | are* | 09:33 |
| locsmif_work | Could be a maintainer is present, who knows | 09:33 |
| locsmif_work | So would you kick such a maintainer if they offered advice? | 09:33 |
| locsmif_work | Seems a bit overblown imo | 09:34 |
| lotuspsychje | locsmif_work: lets discuss this in #ubuntu-discuss | 09:35 |
| lambdaguy101 | guess i'll have to go back to windows 10 | 09:37 |
| lambdaguy101 | so when ubiquity crashes, i can boot from the drive i installed ubuntu on, but it defaults to the nouveau video driver, which should not happen, as when installing the os before, it defaulted to nvidia-driver-450. switching to the proprietary drivers while it defaults to nouveau results in decreased performance. what can i do? | 09:44 |
| deki_01 | I try to install mono-complete now and get this: The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 09:49 |
| deki_01 | and shows a list of the Depends: | 09:49 |
| deki_01 | Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. | 09:49 |
| lambdaguy101 | does it show some packages that can replace the dependencies that are missing? | 09:50 |
| lambdaguy101 | deki_01 | 09:51 |
| deki_01 | yes | 09:51 |
| lambdaguy101 | download those packages. it might work | 09:51 |
| deki_01 | i did sudo apt install mono-runtime and get already the newest version but if I run sudo apt install mono-complete is shows Depends: ... it to be installed | 09:53 |
| ikonia | deki_01: what repo is it coming from | 09:56 |
| deki_01 | ikonia: ubuntu 20.04 | 10:00 |
| ikonia | no, what repo is the mono packages coming from | 10:00 |
| deki_01 | mono-runtime (= 6.8.0.105+dfsg-2) but 6.12.0.90-0xamarin1+ubuntu2004b1 is to be installe | 10:01 |
| ikonia | what repo is it coming from | 10:01 |
| deki_01 | you mean this one │deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal main restricted | 10:03 |
| ikonia | is your metadata out of date | 10:15 |
| ikonia | apt update | 10:15 |
| ikonia | is it that simmple | 10:15 |
| deki_01 | yes tried evrything now I am deleting the Depents: pakages | 10:16 |
| ikonia | deki_01: are you sure the packages are coming from the ubuntu repo | 10:36 |
| ikonia | deki_01: it's very unusual to have broken dependencies in packages that are designed to be used on the same ubuntu version as you are running and are official packages from the official repo | 10:37 |
| ikonia | deki_01: what is the name of the package you're installing that first has a broken dependnecy | 10:37 |
| lambdaguy101 | how can i prevent ubiquity from crashing at the end of the setup? | 10:38 |
| EriC^^ | lambdaguy101: any idea why it's crashing? there's a terminal you can drop down that shows what its doing | 10:39 |
| lambdaguy101 | i have no idea why it's crashing | 10:39 |
| lambdaguy101 | the terminal dropdown shows regular stuff, no errors | 10:39 |
| EriC^^ | deki_01: removing the depends on that might not be a good idea if it needs that version | 10:40 |
| EriC^^ | better to resolve the issue differently | 10:40 |
| deki_01 | Eric: how I have already deleted some Depends now I have just 3 left but I can delete those mono-devl and monodoc-manual and libmono-2.0-1 | 10:42 |
| EriC^^ | deki_01: probably there's a problem with one of the ppa's | 10:43 |
| EriC^^ | mono-runtime (= 6.8.0.105+dfsg-2) but 6.12.0.90-0xamarin1+ubuntu2004b1 is to be installe | 10:43 |
| deki_01 | i used the source.list https://gist.github.com/ishad0w/788555191c7037e249a439542c53e170 | 10:43 |
| deki_01 | yes that one | 10:43 |
| EriC^^ | it means that some repo is providing the 6.12 one | 10:43 |
| EriC^^ | if you dont need that repo you can purge it to get back the repo default packages so it all balances out, or maybe some repo that uses the updated version for mono-runtime | 10:44 |
| deki_01 | you mean from the source.list | 10:45 |
| EriC^^ | !ppa-purge | 10:45 |
| ubottu | To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html | 10:45 |
| ikonia | yeah, just changing sources.list won't save it | 10:47 |
| EriC^^ | deki_01:you have to run ppa-purge so it removes the ppa and uninstalls the stuff it downloaded and reverts to the repo packages versions | 10:47 |
| lambdaguy101 | ubiquity keeps crashing after it says "Downloading packages (0:XX)" and "Installing system" | 10:57 |
| lambdaguy101 | I have no logs sadly | 10:57 |
| lotuspsychje | lambdaguy101: you gave a pastebin of your logs earlier | 10:59 |
| lambdaguy101 | i know | 10:59 |
| lambdaguy101 | but for what happened now, i don't | 10:59 |
| lambdaguy101 | is it a bug in ubiquity? | 10:59 |
| deki_01 | Finaly I get removed mono, thants for that | 11:00 |
| lambdaguy101 | So apparently it's a bug when installing 3rd party drivers and when using an nVidia card | 11:04 |
| locsmif_work | I have a link to a script in ~/.config/autostart. The script starts another script in the background and then disowns it. This works fine from the commandline, but when started this way, Unity complains that a "xxx is causing a problem". Why? | 11:15 |
| EriC^^ | locsmif_work: do you have a show more or details button? | 11:35 |
| LordDoskias | hello i'd like to have the following udev rule executed when my wacom tablet is connected: | 11:42 |
| LordDoskias | CTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="056a", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0374", RUN+="/usr/bin/xsetwacom --set \"Wacom Intuos S Pen stylus\" Mode Relative", RUN+="/usr/bin/xsetwacom --set \"Wacom Intuos S Pen stylus\" MapToOutput DIsplayPort-0" | 11:43 |
| LordDoskias | lsusb shows: Bus 003 Device 036: ID 056a:0374 Wacom Co., Ltd CTL-4100 [Intuos (S)] | 11:43 |
| LordDoskias | looking at the journalctl log i can see this is indeed happening however when i look at the properties of the device the options are not applied, this leads me to believe this is executed way too early in the init process of the device, is there a way to execute this udev rule when the device is already settled? | 11:43 |
| locsmif_work | LordDoskias: write a script | 11:51 |
| LordDoskias | what do you mean ? isn't this what udev is for ? | 11:51 |
| locsmif_work | LordDoskias: the script can sleep for a few seconds | 11:51 |
| locsmif_work | LordDoskias: your udev rule can call the script | 11:51 |
| LordDoskias | yeah, but that would block udev | 11:51 |
| locsmif_work | LordDoskias: https://askubuntu.com/a/290842 perhaps, but in the end, the device not being ready to accept commands isn't udev's fault | 11:53 |
| locsmif_work | EriC^^: this also seems interesting: https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/110476 ..but I have no real idea if/how it will work | 11:56 |
| locsmif_work | EriC^^: your question earlier: my script is non-interactive: it doesn't present any dialog boxes or whatever | 11:57 |
| locsmif_work | The previous user highlight was for LordDoskias | 11:57 |
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| guaje | hello everybody, i have 5 hours trying solutions and i don't get anything, yesterday my nve disk with ubuntu 20 by a mistake was left at 0 bytes in hd and everything was frozen. after starting it doesn't start grub. With a live with 18 I want to mount the disk to delete some file but when a zfs set mountpoint=/mnt/zfs rpool... does not mount | 12:39 |
| guaje | anything. I am a little lost, thank you very much. | 12:39 |
| EriC^^ | guaje: i think grub shouldn't be related to the zfs, it should either be in the mbr or the efi partition | 12:42 |
| EriC^^ | guaje: can you paste the link you get from 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' from a live usb? | 12:43 |
| EriC^^ | full disclosure i dont know much about zfs at all but can probably help with why grub isnt showing up | 12:43 |
| guaje | https://termbin.com/bnmab | 12:44 |
| guaje | I stayed at 0 bytes on the hd | 12:45 |
| EriC^^ | guaje: type 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com' | 12:46 |
| guaje | thanks | 12:46 |
| EriC^^ | guaje: also, 'sudo mount /dev/nvme0n1p1 /mnt && ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999' | 12:46 |
| EriC^^ | no problem | 12:47 |
| guaje | with this sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com appear me information... no link | 12:48 |
| EriC^^ | ah sorry | 12:48 |
| EriC^^ | sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999 | 12:48 |
| EriC^^ | forgot the port | 12:48 |
| guaje | for the second https://termbin.com/hb19 | 12:48 |
| guaje | 1 > https://termbin.com/m5wz | 12:49 |
| EriC^^ | guaje: does 'sudo blkid /dev/nvme0n1p1' show the PARTUUID as 94ddefd8-fdcc-46cc-8ecd-644be3675384 ? | 12:50 |
| ddubya | does anyone know a support forum for qemu or kvm, #qemu is pretty dead | 12:51 |
| guaje | yes | 12:51 |
| EriC^^ | guaje: grub looks fine, there's an entry in the uefi list pointing to the efi partition and a shimx64.efi file that exists | 12:51 |
| EriC^^ | guaje: if you hold "shift" when the pc boots do you get grub? | 12:52 |
| guaje | don't try it, you want me to try it first | 12:53 |
| EriC^^ | are you not getting anything at all? not even a grub> or grub rescue> shell? | 12:53 |
| EriC^^ | yeah try to hold shift after you restart, see if you get the grub menu or anything grub related like a shell | 12:54 |
| guaje | is left carrying a splash of asus... | 12:54 |
| guaje | ok | 12:54 |
| EriC^^ | guaje: actually 1 sec before restarting | 12:55 |
| EriC^^ | if you havent restarted try 'sudo mkdir -p /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot' | 12:55 |
| EriC^^ | still there? | 12:56 |
| guaje | yes | 12:56 |
| guaje | sy | 12:56 |
| guaje | ready | 12:57 |
| guaje | ill go to restart | 12:57 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:58 |
| Maik | o/ | 12:59 |
| amoros | 2 | 13:03 |
| lambdaguy101 | i installed focal fossa 20.04, i chose to log in automatically, but i am stuck on the login screen. typing my password just takes me back to the user choosing screen. when i choose to power off my computer, it says that i am logged in but i am not. any solutions? | 13:11 |
| guaje | wow, I think we have taken a step, now passes from grub . but stands in the splash, I waited 10 minutes . | 13:12 |
| lambdaguy101 | still in the splash screen after 10 minutes? what version? | 13:13 |
| lambdaguy101 | guaje | 13:13 |
| guaje | they were helping me 10 minutes ago, I have waited just in case, but I am without space in the hd | 13:14 |
| lambdaguy101 | yeah, but what version of ubuntu guaje? | 13:15 |
| guaje | 20 | 13:15 |
| lambdaguy101 | 20 . what? | 13:15 |
| lambdaguy101 | 20.04 or 20.10? | 13:15 |
| guaje | 20.04 sy | 13:15 |
| lambdaguy101 | so what can you see on your screen? | 13:16 |
| guaje | the splash | 13:16 |
| guaje | wow as I'm in a live and running I do not remember the name of who was helping me, began with G_ that head mine | 13:17 |
| EriC^ | hey guaje | 13:17 |
| guaje | eric thanks | 13:17 |
| lambdaguy101 | so it just shows the ubuntu logo or the login screen? or the manufacturer logo alongside the ubuntu logo on the bottom? we need more details | 13:18 |
| EriC^ | he has a full hdd, using zfs | 13:18 |
| EriC^ | guaje: now it's stalling at the ubuntu splash screen? | 13:18 |
| guaje | you like details like me, it stays in the nice splash that asus brought for ubuntu 20.04 lambdaguy101 | 13:19 |
| lambdaguy101 | the thing is we need more details so we know exactly how to help and what problems you have. and it just shows the ubuntu logo at the bottom and the asus logo in the middle, right? | 13:20 |
| EriC^ | guaje: what happens if you go in grub to advanced > choose a recovery kernel | 13:20 |
| EriC^ | maybe you can drop to a root shell there, remount rw using 'mount -o remount,rw /' and delete some files to make space | 13:21 |
| guaje | attempt it | 13:23 |
| guaje | I don't know how to do it, but I'm going for it | 13:23 |
| lambdaguy101 | i think you need to hold shift when booting up your device. at least that's how it was for me | 13:24 |
| guaje | ;D | 13:25 |
| lambdaguy101 | did you try it? | 13:25 |
| lambdaguy101 | guaje | 13:26 |
| guaje | it has to be the language, I don't speak English well, I sound like a joke lambdaguy101 | 13:28 |
| lambdaguy101 | and? you can still understand us | 13:28 |
| lambdaguy101 | let's get back on track. | 13:28 |
| lambdaguy101 | did you try holding shift when booting up your computer? | 13:28 |
| guaje | yes | 13:29 |
| guaje | and the grub appears correctly | 13:29 |
| lambdaguy101 | good | 13:29 |
| lambdaguy101 | now do as how EriC^ said | 13:30 |
| EriC^ | guaje: press on 'advanced' then choose the newest kernel that has 'recovery' in the line | 13:32 |
| EriC^ | then drop to root shell, type "mount -o remount,rw /" and delete the files you dont need to make space | 13:33 |
| guaje | ok thanks | 13:34 |
| guaje | I don't know what will become of me in the shell... I'm going to try the options, thank you very much to the 2. that before I forgot eric | 13:34 |
| guaje | whenever I enter this chat I leave with a smile, thank you | 13:36 |
| basenode | you there deltab? | 13:42 |
| APIScorcher | Hello! | 13:48 |
| APIScorcher | I'd like some help, I'm on Ubuntu 20.04 and want to connect my laptop to my monitor using HDMI. I can't figure out how to. | 13:49 |
| ddubya | APIScorcher, what happens when you connect it | 13:50 |
| APIScorcher | Nothing | 13:50 |
| APIScorcher | Monitor doesn't detect anything | 13:51 |
| ddubya | monitor standby blinking or says "no signal" ? | 13:51 |
| APIScorcher | It scans and then says No Signal | 13:52 |
| ddubya | run xrandr in the terminal, it lists each video output, like HDMI-0 etc | 13:53 |
| APIScorcher | HDMI-1 disconnected | 13:53 |
| ddubya | try xrandr --output HDMI-1 --auto | 13:55 |
| APIScorcher | Oof, still no signal | 13:56 |
| APIScorcher | xrandr also says its disconnected | 13:56 |
| ddubya | hmm | 13:57 |
| APIScorcher | =L | 13:57 |
| ddubya | are you sure the monitor input is set correctly (if it has multiple inputs like dvi, displayport etc) | 13:58 |
| APIScorcher | well it worked when I had Windows, now it doesn't work with Ubuntu | 13:58 |
| ddubya | oh ok | 13:59 |
| APIScorcher | Yeah input is correct | 13:59 |
| APIScorcher | wait | 14:01 |
| APIScorcher | I got it working | 14:01 |
| APIScorcher | put the hdmi in another port | 14:01 |
| APIScorcher | thanks man | 14:01 |
| ddubya | so rebooting didn't fix it... I've seen where inputs don't work if they're not hooked up at boot | 14:01 |
| ddubya | lol | 14:02 |
| ddubya | the laptop has more than one port, or the monitor? | 14:03 |
| APIScorcher | I fixed it | 14:04 |
| APIScorcher | just used another port on the monitor | 14:05 |
| APIScorcher | Thanks ddubya | 14:06 |
| ddubya | no problem, I also tried that command and partially crashed my desktop (got it back though lol) | 14:07 |
| ddubya | I guess nvidia drivers still don't like xrandr | 14:07 |
| coconut | I have not mastered apt well. Any easy way to show the package difference between ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-server? | 14:09 |
| tieinv | apt show | 14:13 |
| coconut | tieinv, is there any diff feature on apt for such thing? | 14:18 |
| noalternative | I am still unable to get my wired headset mic working on Ubuntu 20.04 64bit | 14:28 |
| noalternative | I installed pulse audio volumn control and tried different settings, none worked | 14:29 |
| noalternative | My ear phones worked, just not my mic. | 14:29 |
| noalternative | It is attached to a usb soundcard with green and pink jacks | 14:30 |
| noalternative | I am not sure my usb soundcard has the right drivers. | 14:31 |
| pavlos | basenode: what was the issue? | 14:31 |
| noalternative | I really can't find any coherent documentation on this issue. | 14:31 |
| ddubya | noalternative, so pulseaudio doesn't show the mic? | 14:31 |
| pavlos | noalternative: is there a model# for this usb sound thingy? | 14:32 |
| noalternative | It says microphone under "usb pnp sound device mono" | 14:33 |
| noalternative | even after that the microphone isn't working | 14:34 |
| pavlos | noalternative: does lsusb list this device? | 14:34 |
| noalternative | I made a test.wave and the sound is very muffled under some sort of buzz | 14:34 |
| noalternative | barely audible voice | 14:34 |
| noalternative | pavios I will check these things. | 14:35 |
| noalternative | here is the output under lsusb https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nnfRGW62Hd/ | 14:37 |
| pavlos | noalternative: it does not list this device | 14:38 |
| noalternative | I think the unifying reciever is my logitech mouse, and it looks like I have 2 entries form usb hub | 14:39 |
| pavlos | noalternative: and the genesys is a card reader | 14:40 |
| noalternative | don't know what the intell stuff would be. | 14:40 |
| pavlos | noalternative: when plugged in, do you see anything in dmesg ? | 14:41 |
| ledeni | noalternative: check 'pavucontrol' input devices port: should be headset microphone | 14:42 |
| pavlos | noalternative: paste <( cat /proc/asound/cards ) | 14:43 |
| noalternative | I don't see a model number anywere. There no cd with this device. It just said plug and play. Also not much documentation. | 14:43 |
| lambdaguy101 | i was gone for a while. i need help with an issue in ubuntu focal fossa 20.04. i am stuck on the login screen while my user is logged in. i cannot do anything besides suspend, shutdown, or just login but won't work | 14:45 |
| noalternative | Here is a paste of my dmesg output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JvP6hNj8Qg/ | 14:47 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101: do you have another user set ? | 14:49 |
| lambdaguy101 | ledeni no | 14:49 |
| pavlos | noalternative: I see a usb PnP sound device by C-Media | 14:49 |
| lambdaguy101 | it happened after a fresh install of ubuntu | 14:49 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101:that mean you never login properly to your user | 14:51 |
| lambdaguy101 | ledeni how | 14:51 |
| lambdaguy101 | ledeni what i did was install ubuntu then boot into the drive i installed ubuntu on. nothing else | 14:51 |
| lambdaguy101 | and also, i chose to log me in automatically | 14:52 |
| pavlos | noalternative: not sure if this helps, http://www.upubuntu.com/2012/02/how-to-set-c-media-usb-71-channel-sound.html | 14:53 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101: when you install did you choice thrid party drivers anyway | 14:55 |
| lambdaguy101 | yes i chose to install 3rd party software | 14:55 |
| pavlos | noalternative: also, https://www.alsa-project.org/wiki/Matrix:Vendor-C-Media | 14:56 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101: do you know your gpu is ? | 14:56 |
| lambdaguy101 | nvidia geforce gtx 1050 | 14:57 |
| noalternative | pavlos: cat /proc/asound/cards https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J59MJf2Bbt/ | 14:57 |
| noalternative | pavlos: I also posted my dmesg output upstream. | 14:57 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101: i suggest to reinstall system without 3rd party software | 14:58 |
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| lambdaguy101 | ledeni but won't i have the nouveau driver by default? everytime it was default and switched to the nvidia driver, everything just became worse. performance worsened, animations were gone, resolution locked, etc. | 14:59 |
| pavlos | noalternative: paste <( cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base ) | 15:00 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101: i know but something not set properly nvidia driver and you need to check and install after you install ubuntu | 15:01 |
| noalternative | pavlos: cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base says no such file or directory | 15:02 |
| pavlos | noalternative: add the .conf part ... paste <( cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf ) | 15:02 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101: at least i will try that way | 15:03 |
| lambdaguy101 | i'll try in a few minutes. i got homework to do | 15:03 |
| noalternative | pavlos: cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yxVRnNb5sv/ | 15:05 |
| pavlos | noalternative: can you comment line 49? (add # in front of it) | 15:06 |
| noalternative | pavlos ok than reboot? | 15:06 |
| pavlos | noalternative: sure | 15:07 |
| noalternative | I am using nano and I don't see any line numbers | 15:08 |
| noalternative | that was to pavlos | 15:09 |
| noalternative | pavlos: I don't have line numbers could you be specific about what you wan't commented out. | 15:10 |
| noalternative | Pavlos: I found it in the paste so I am ok now | 15:11 |
| noalternative | pavlos: I am rebooting | 15:12 |
| pavlos | noalternative: press ctrl-C in nao, it will display line numbers | 15:12 |
| noalternative | brb | 15:12 |
| noalternative | good to know | 15:12 |
| pavlos | noalternative: actually, alt-C not ctrl-C sorry | 15:13 |
| pavlos | noalternative: if you try, "sudo nano -l alsa-base.conf", it will show line numbers (that's lowercase el) | 15:19 |
| Kisama | good morning guys | 15:23 |
| Kisama | hi guys | 15:28 |
| Kisama | ls | 15:29 |
| Kisama | ups | 15:30 |
| Kisama | someone there? | 15:30 |
| noalternative | pavlos: I rebooted and did a test recording again. Again, my voice was barely audible under a loud hum | 15:39 |
| hggdh | Kisama: hi, your best bet to to simply go ahead and ask your question. And, yes, there are about 1,200 persons in this channel :-) | 15:40 |
| lambdaguy101 | ledeni i am back and i'll try reinstalling focal fossa now | 15:40 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101:ok | 15:41 |
| lambdaguy101 | i have access to the bios thankfully, give me a few mins | 15:41 |
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| noalternative | pavlos: Are you there? | 15:47 |
| pavlos | yes | 15:47 |
| noalternative | I rebooted and did another test and again, I have barely audible voice with a loud hum. | 15:48 |
| pavlos | noalternative: can you adjust control panel settings audio to increase mic ? | 15:48 |
| noalternative | yes, it made the hum louder | 15:48 |
| pavlos | noalternative: at lease before, mic was not working but I dont know what else to try | 15:48 |
| pavlos | least* | 15:49 |
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| Hash | Morning | 15:51 |
| Hash | How would you set your ubutnu 20 desktop swappiness | 15:52 |
| Hash | vm.swappiness = 10 | 15:52 |
| Hash | vm.dirty_ratio = 60 | 15:52 |
| Hash | vm.dirty_background_ratio = 2 | 15:52 |
| Hash | I am using the above settings for sysctl.conf and I find myself swapping a lot still, 8gb ram. | 15:52 |
| ledeni | noalternative: check level of mic volume should be about 15 % or you will have microphony hum from speakers | 15:52 |
| Hash | Most of the RAM is taken up by google chrome. | 15:52 |
| Hash | I need a more lightweight browser | 15:53 |
| lambdaguy101 | ledeni it worked. thanks | 15:53 |
| Hash | And also, what can do for swapping less? | 15:53 |
| noalternative | ledini:ok | 15:53 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101: you're welcome | 15:53 |
| Hash | And also, I was told not to put swap on ssd, but if I put swap on hdd, it takes a fwe seconds to read back, ssd is faster | 15:53 |
| Hash | net.core.somaxconn = 65535 that too helps | 15:54 |
| noalternative | ledini: Still muffled with hum, though my voice and the hum are less lound | 15:59 |
| ledeni | noalternative do you have external speakers on or that is lappy | 16:01 |
| noalternative | ledeni: It is a compute stick, and I only have headphones for it on a usb sound card. | 16:01 |
| ledeni | noalternative:ok for pc or laptop | 16:02 |
| noalternative | Other than that it wants to send sound to an hdmi monitor. I have no sound on my hdmi monitor so I suspect it just creates conflict. | 16:02 |
| noalternative | I am no sure how to clasify a compute stick. It hasn't got native speakers though | 16:03 |
| treah | I am using Ubuntu 20.10 and I have noticed that snap programs are rediculously slower then there deb counterparts. I have a Ryzen 3 system with over 16gb of memory and 12 cores so I would think that my system qualifies as "Modern". Has anyone else noticed that snaps are just really really slow to launch? | 16:06 |
| noalternative | ledeni: Here is the specs on compute stick https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/86612/intel-compute-stick-stck1a32wfc.html | 16:09 |
| noalternative | ledeni: pavlos: I have to go for now, but I will be back either later today or tomarrow. If you can find someone who can help, please pm me. | 16:11 |
| coconut | treah, yeah i do not like snap either... already considered to change to debian, they do not enforce snap packages. :) | 16:11 |
| noalternative | thanks for trying though | 16:11 |
| treah | I do not like or dislike them really. I was just curious if its normal for them to be really slow to start. They also tend to go unresponsive sometimes too | 16:12 |
| lambdaguy101 | so i restarted my pc, but the resolution is stuck at 800x600 after switching to the nvidia video driver 455 | 16:12 |
| lambdaguy101 | oh yeah and animations are gone | 16:12 |
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| Treah | I assume your refering to the closed source driver? | 16:15 |
| lambdaguy101 | Treah yeah | 16:16 |
| Treah | Are you changing things via the built in ubuntu screen management thing or the nvidia one? I would use the nvidia one | 16:17 |
| Treah | At least thats my experiance the last time I had a nvidia card | 16:17 |
| RoseBus | hi, i can't figure out what happened to this .tar.gz after my `mv` command... please help me locate this file | 16:18 |
| RoseBus | https://bpa.st/5DWQ | 16:18 |
| Treah | Uhhh use find | 16:18 |
| lambdaguy101 | Treah i changed the driver from the software and updates app, but haven't checked if i can change the res from the nvidia app | 16:18 |
| lambdaguy101 | update: can't | 16:18 |
| Treah | Hmmm odd | 16:19 |
| Treah | It used to make changes directly to the .X11 files | 16:19 |
| lambdaguy101 | also, can't change page in the show applications menu with the driver selected | 16:19 |
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| Treah | I would check your xorg log files to see if anything hinky is going on because I bet something is failing to load | 16:21 |
| RoseBus | Treah, i used find, could not find it | 16:25 |
| RoseBus | https://bpa.st/2SDA | 16:25 |
| RoseBus | whops my real name is in there haha, removing and re-pasting | 16:27 |
| RoseBus | https://bpa.st/ODJQ | 16:28 |
| ioria | andoid-dev != android-dev | 16:29 |
| RoseBus | ahahah | 16:30 |
| RoseBus | ty | 16:30 |
| ioria | you created an 'andoid-dev' file in your home | 16:30 |
| RoseBus | i found it ty | 16:30 |
| ioria | ok | 16:31 |
| Deyaa | Does squid proxy support socks5 | 17:06 |
| Deyaa | ?? | 17:07 |
| ddubya | Deyaa, apparently yes, if you compile it yourself | 17:16 |
| isemenov | good evening | 17:25 |
| isemenov | I've installed the package "paraview" on ubuntu 20.04 | 17:25 |
| isemenov | version "5.7.0-4ubuntu9" | 17:26 |
| isemenov | also I've installed "paraview-dev" version "5.7.0-4ubuntu9" | 17:26 |
| isemenov | in order to build a plugin for paraview, located at github | 17:26 |
| Kisama | good evening isemenov | 17:27 |
| isemenov | but, cmake configuration for the plugin source fails, because it cannot find files such as | 17:27 |
| isemenov | /usr/bin/smTestDriver-pv5.7 | 17:27 |
| isemenov | but, this file is a part of the paraview build. | 17:27 |
| isemenov | ubuntu does not provide the file, as well as a few other "imported targets" required to build paraview plugins. | 17:28 |
| isemenov | what can I do about this and why does the packaging team delete the files? | 17:28 |
| isemenov | thank you. | 17:28 |
| lambdaguy101 | nvidia driver makes my resolution get stuck at 800x600, can't open nvidia x server settings for whatever reason, idk why | 17:32 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101: what nvidia driver you install latest one or 390 | 17:49 |
| lambdaguy101 | latest one | 17:49 |
| lambdaguy101 | 455 | 17:49 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101: and your nvidia card model are | 17:50 |
| lambdaguy101 | geforce gtx 1050 | 17:50 |
| lambdaguy101 | hold on i gotta go eat | 17:51 |
| Deyaa | ddubya: I been searching for days I didn't come across such a reference | 17:54 |
| ddubya | Deyaa, https://wiki.squid-cache.org/Features/Socks | 17:56 |
| swensson | Anyone know how to make my mailserver not send mail to everyones junkbox and instead primary inbox? What defines this?? | 17:58 |
| ddubya | swensson, you need a domain name for the server and other things. If the IP address is in a block list nothing will work | 18:00 |
| swensson | ddubya, I have a domain with SSL from letsencrypt, but still... Junkbox | 18:00 |
| swensson | Well, the domain is from loopia, but SSL from letsencrypt | 18:01 |
| ddubya | there are sites that will validate your mail server configuration | 18:01 |
| ddubya | it is tricky to get right | 18:01 |
| lambdaguy101 | ledeni i am back | 18:02 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101 | 18:02 |
| lambdaguy101 | what | 18:02 |
| lambdaguy101 | what is it | 18:02 |
| lambdaguy101 | ledeni | 18:03 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101: look like your card is not supported with your card anymore | 18:03 |
| lambdaguy101 | uhh what? | 18:03 |
| lambdaguy101 | what do you mean my card is not supported with my card | 18:03 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101: sorry newest driver | 18:03 |
| ledeni | lambdaguy101➡ try 440 or 390 driver for nvidia | 18:04 |
| lambdaguy101 | what do you mean? i just checked, it is supported | 18:04 |
| ddubya | it think it is supported, it worked for me with 1050ti | 18:05 |
| lambdaguy101 | i checked and 1050 is supported https://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/166177/en-us | 18:05 |
| lambdaguy101 | i will, however, try nvidia-driver-450 | 18:06 |
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| ddubya | I would try the nuke and reinstall method... apt-get autoremove nvidia-*; reboot; apt-get install nvidia-xyz | 18:06 |
| lambdaguy101 | let me first try the other versions | 18:08 |
| lambdaguy101 | then i'll try the nuke and reinstall method | 18:08 |
| lambdaguy101 | i'm back | 18:15 |
| lambdaguy101 | nothing changed | 18:15 |
| lambdaguy101 | tried 455, 450, and 390 | 18:15 |
| ddubya | the nvidia driver probably isn't loaded | 18:16 |
| lambdaguy101 | i don't understand. why wouldn't it be? why is it doing this? | 18:16 |
| ddubya | lsmod | grep nvidia | 18:16 |
| lambdaguy101 | pasted that, nothing. | 18:17 |
| ddubya | there used to be a problem where opensource driver would load ahead of nvidia, its been a while | 18:17 |
| lambdaguy101 | guess that means it is not loaded | 18:17 |
| ddubya | yep | 18:17 |
| lambdaguy101 | any way to fix it? | 18:17 |
| ddubya | if you have an xorg.conf, delete/rename it | 18:17 |
| lambdaguy101 | i had the same problem on 20.10 | 18:17 |
| ddubya | and reboot | 18:18 |
| lambdaguy101 | i don't know if i have an xorg.conf | 18:18 |
| ddubya | /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 18:18 |
| lambdaguy101 | file is empty | 18:18 |
| lambdaguy101 | there is no xorg.conf ddubya | 18:19 |
| ddubya | yeah I got that | 18:19 |
| ddubya | I'm not sure what to advise just yet.. either you make your own xorg.conf with the nvidia tool (nvidia-xconfig) or disable the driver that is in the way | 18:20 |
| ddubya | what does lsmod | grep nouveau say? | 18:21 |
| lambdaguy101 | nothing | 18:21 |
| ddubya | did you try nuke method yet? | 18:22 |
| lambdaguy101 | nope | 18:22 |
| lambdaguy101 | send it. i cannot see it after restarting my pc | 18:22 |
| ddubya | apt-get autoremove nvidia-* , then reboot, then apt-get install nvidia-driver-xyz | 18:23 |
| lambdaguy101 | alright i'll be back in a second | 18:25 |
| lambdaguy101 | back | 18:25 |
| reaga | hmm | 18:26 |
| ddubya | that was fast | 18:26 |
| lambdaguy101 | good pc :) | 18:26 |
| ddubya | oh you need to reboot after the last step too | 18:27 |
| lambdaguy101 | alright | 18:27 |
| lambdaguy101 | why does it always keep asking for uefi aduifhgh password? | 18:28 |
| lambdaguy101 | when i already defined it? | 18:28 |
| lambdaguy101 | alright restarting | 18:28 |
| lambdaguy101 | back | 18:29 |
| lambdaguy101 | resolution is back at 800x600 | 18:30 |
| lambdaguy101 | i know that i now ran `sudo nvidia-xconfig`. do i need to restart? | 18:30 |
| ddubya | probably, or at least a logout | 18:31 |
| lambdaguy101 | better restart | 18:31 |
| lambdaguy101 | brb | 18:31 |
| lambdaguy101 | alright resolution is at 1920x1080, but no animations | 18:32 |
| ddubya | lsmod | grep nvidia | 18:32 |
| lambdaguy101 | no output | 18:33 |
| lambdaguy101 | nvidia x server settings window is just empty | 18:33 |
| ddubya | yeah, because driver isn't loaded | 18:33 |
| lambdaguy101 | why is it doing this? | 18:33 |
| lambdaguy101 | oh god dammit' | 18:33 |
| lambdaguy101 | i think i found something https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/nvidia-driver-is-not-loaded-ubuntu-18-10/70495 | 18:34 |
| ggz | hello, i can't login on my tty, when i try to enter password, it automatically hit enter before i have time to type it, for a few minutes then reset the tty | 18:35 |
| lambdaguy101 | gonna install chromium and restart | 18:37 |
| ddubya | yeah there are some things to try there | 18:37 |
| ddubya | but first need to look at logs | 18:37 |
| ddubya | what ubuntu version is this | 18:37 |
| lambdaguy101 | i restarted my pc, same thing | 18:40 |
| ddubya | what does lspci | grep vga say | 18:41 |
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| lambdaguy101 | ddubya nothing | 18:42 |
| ddubya | oops its VGA | 18:42 |
| Deyaa | ddubya: thany | 18:51 |
| Deyaa | Thanks | 18:51 |
| Deyaa | * | 18:52 |
| ddubya | Deyaa, :-) | 18:52 |
| lambdaguy101 | ddubya you have any clue how to help with the problem i have? | 18:53 |
| lambdaguy101 | once i reinstalled the drivers after nuking them just made things the same as before | 18:53 |
| lambdaguy101 | and i also ran nvidia-xconfig | 18:53 |
| ddubya | does lspci | grep VGA say anything? | 18:54 |
| lambdaguy101 | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050] (rev a1) | 18:54 |
| lambdaguy101 | this is what it says | 18:54 |
| Deyaa | ddubya: it seems like a hard mission | 18:56 |
| ddubya | Deyaa, yep | 18:56 |
| Deyaa | I've just read about shadowsocka and I installed it but I can't disable password | 18:57 |
| ddubya | lambda, you can pastebin the system journal (journalctl -b 0) that might have clues | 18:58 |
| ddubya | squid isn't that hard to compile, from what I can tell | 18:58 |
| lambdaguy101 | ddubya one sec | 18:58 |
| lambdaguy101 | i'm just getting more confused | 19:00 |
| Deyaa | I'm looking for something maintainable | 19:00 |
| ddubya | squid is more of a caching proxy, does caching socks5 make any sense? | 19:02 |
| Deyaa | ddubya: so what is my opinions? | 19:05 |
| ddubya | Deyaa, https://catonmat.net/linux-socks5-proxy | 19:08 |
| [J]oules | what might prevent the switch user from working on ubuntu 18.04 flashback desktop? | 19:08 |
| lambdaguy101 | i still have problems | 19:12 |
| entourage | I would like to use a newer version of VLC than the version that's in the Ubuntu repo how do I do that? | 19:13 |
| ddubya | entourage, maybe there is a snap package | 19:13 |
| entourage | the latest version of VLC on www.vidolan.org is 3.0.11 | 19:14 |
| ddubya | lambda, I can't say much without seeing logs | 19:14 |
| lambdaguy101 | there's too much text | 19:15 |
| entourage | I don't want to use a snap packe | 19:15 |
| lambdaguy101 | hold on let me restart | 19:15 |
| ddubya | entourage, the edge version on snap is 4.0.0 | 19:15 |
| ddubya | entourage, then you have to find a PPA | 19:15 |
| entourage | I want to use the latest stable version 3.0.11 | 19:16 |
| ddubya | ok, there is a snap for that too | 19:16 |
| entourage | ddubya, please tell me that using a snap isn't the only alternative | 19:17 |
| ddubya | entourage, you can use a PPA (if you can find one), or compile it from source yourself | 19:18 |
| ddubya | do you have some philisophical objection to snap? | 19:18 |
| entourage | yes | 19:18 |
| ddubya | ok lol | 19:18 |
| ddubya | well PPA is more of a PITA but the next best thing | 19:19 |
| Deyaa | ddubya: very cool | 19:19 |
| Deyaa | I like it | 19:20 |
| ddubya | Deyaa, i didn't realize socks5 was so basic, all you need is an ssh tunnel | 19:21 |
| lambdaguy101 | ddubya https://juicepaste.herokuapp.com/JjKIzZvWHW if you're wondering about the website, i just made it now | 19:21 |
| ddubya | lamda, ok, but there is a link in the irc banner | 19:21 |
| Deyaa | ddubya: me neither | 19:22 |
| lambdaguy101 | yeah, but i already had that open so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 19:22 |
| Deyaa | Is it safe?? | 19:22 |
| entourage | if only the Ubuntu repo was kept up to date (one can only dream) | 19:22 |
| Deyaa | I've just started the proxy but SSH asked about root password | 19:23 |
| ddubya | Deyaa, hmm maybe use a higher port number | 19:24 |
| ddubya | lambda, I can't see the kernel boot log, maybe you didn't get it all, use this command: journalctl -b 1 > log.txt | 19:28 |
| lambdaguy101 | i used that command and nothing happened. i just see lambda@lambda:~$ again | 19:29 |
| ddubya | open the text file | 19:29 |
| lambdaguy101 | ddubya hold on | 19:31 |
| ddubya | Deyaa, also IIRC ssh may need special permission to bind to non-local address | 19:32 |
| lambdaguy101 | ddubya https://hatebin.com/ekyqwrartk paste.ubuntu.com gave me 502 bad gateway | 19:37 |
| okamis | Hi, im trying to learn about handling secrets better, rsa-keys and password/secrets. And came across secret-tools, sadly it gives me an error msg when using it. Im using ubuntu server. | 19:37 |
| okamis | secret-tools store --label=test attr value -> ** Message: 20:27:45.229: Remote error from secret service: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface 'org.freedesktop.Secret.Collection' on object at path /org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/loginsecret-tool: No such interface 'org.freedesktop.Secret.Collection' on object at path | 19:37 |
| okamis | /org/freedesktop/secrets/collection/login | 19:37 |
| ddubya | lambda, only 1s of logging there, you didn't get it all copied or hit the limit of the site | 19:43 |
| lambdaguy101 | ddubya most likely the limit | 19:46 |
| ddubya | https://paste.ubuntu.com/ seems to be working | 19:47 |
| lambdaguy101 | i still get bad gateway | 19:48 |
| entourage | ddubya, do you think it's safe to use this unofficial PPA? https://launchpad.net/~savoury1/+archive/ubuntu/vlc3 | 19:52 |
| sarnold | entourage: note that packages in a ppa run their maintainer scripts with unconfined root privileges. be sure you trust whoever maintains that ppa with root on your computer | 19:55 |
| entourage | omg thanks for telling me that! | 19:55 |
| thither | Recently distro hopped back to Ubuntu after many years. I have to say it's much better than before | 19:57 |
| thither | Really enjoying it | 19:57 |
| entourage | I'm using ubuntu right now but arch based distros have many advantages over debian based distros imo | 19:58 |
| Deyaa | ddubya: thanks for help | 20:02 |
| lambdaguy101 | i guess i cannot share the logs | 20:03 |
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| ddubya | entourage, videolan.org has ppa, but only v4.0.0 | 20:09 |
| entourage | ddubya, I can't find it would you please link to it? | 20:11 |
| ddubya | entourage, https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily | 20:13 |
| entourage | thanks! | 20:14 |
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| craigbass76 | Besides snap (which appears to have a permissions problem if the pdf isn't in ~/), is there an easy way to get pdftk installed in 18.04? | 20:25 |
| lambdaguy101 | i've been waiting for quite a while | 20:32 |
| compdoc | did you grab a ticket? | 20:34 |
| lambdaguy101 | ? | 20:35 |
| lambdaguy101 | ddubya i cannot post the full logs on any site i can find | 20:36 |
| Ratel | df -h | 20:46 |
| Ratel | oops, sorry | 20:46 |
| gordonjcp | Ratel: /dev/etherd/e1.4 16T 7.6T 7.9T 49% /mnt/store | 20:49 |
| gordonjcp | Ratel: :-D | 20:49 |
| Ratel | hehe | 20:49 |
| gordonjcp | can't hear you over all the disks, like | 20:49 |
| lambdaguy101 | ddubya what can i do about this? i cannot share the logs | 20:54 |
| lambdaguy101 | they are too big | 20:54 |
| gordonjcp | lambdaguy101: full logs for what? | 20:57 |
| lambdaguy101 | journalctl | 20:58 |
| lambdaguy101 | too much text | 20:58 |
| gordonjcp | yeah, journalctl is cancer | 20:58 |
| lambdaguy101 | i still cannot figure out why the nvidia driver is not getting loaded | 20:58 |
| sarnold | try a fresh boot, then journalctl -b0 to limit it to just 'this boot' messages | 20:59 |
| lambdaguy101 | it big | 21:00 |
| lambdaguy101 | welp i have to go to sleep. it's 23:01 | 21:01 |
| Kisama | sup guys | 21:24 |
| zmc_ | Is there a way to use another init system other than systemd on ubuntu 20.04 and later? | 21:25 |
| lucenera | Is there any way to encrypt disk formatted in zfs? | 21:26 |
| sarnold | zmc_: it's probably not worth the effort, but you could probably do it | 21:26 |
| sarnold | lucenera: yes, you can either use luks underneath zfs, or you could use native zfs encryption | 21:27 |
| lucenera | how can i use the native encryption? | 21:28 |
| zmc_ | sarnold: Ok, I think that answers my question. I was looking more for a 'install these pacakges' way rather than a 'Write your own distro' way. Thanks anyways! | 21:29 |
| leftyfb | zmc_: may be best to ask for help with what you're actually trying to accomplish | 21:30 |
| zmc_ | leftyfb: I'm looking for a way to run ubuntu without using systemd. I tried it a few years ago and it was unsupported to use any other init system. I'm wondering if that's changed. | 21:32 |
| leftyfb | zmc_: why? | 21:33 |
| zmc_ | leftyfb: I'm tired of systemd breaking things, especially across updates on production machines. | 21:33 |
| leftyfb | zmc_: I run about 3500 production machines all with ubuntu and systemd. Zero issues with systemd. | 21:34 |
| leftyfb | zmc_: is there a particular breakage you need support for? | 21:35 |
| sarnold | zmc_: yeah, it's not entirely in write-your-own-distro territory, since debian still kinda supports other init systems, and I don't think we've gone to any effort to *drop* whatever support is in other packages for other inits | 21:35 |
| sarnold | zmc_: but certainly something like devuan or adelie or void will work better with non-systemd | 21:36 |
| zmc_ | leftyfb: I've been able to work around just about everything so far, worst ones have been fixed (systemd broke my auth system across an update, systemd broke lvm as boot volume, systemd broke dns resolution) | 21:37 |
| zmc_ | sarnold: Ok, that's what I thought. I just check back every few years to see if anything has changed. | 21:37 |
| sarnold | lucenera: this looks useful https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ZFS#Native_encryption -- it's not a great guide, but it covers the mechanics, anyway | 21:38 |
| lucenera | sarnold thanks | 21:38 |
| sarnold | zmc_: hehe :) have fun :) | 21:38 |
| zmc_ | sarnold: Thanks, you too! | 21:38 |
| Franciman | Hi | 21:47 |
| Franciman | I'm on ubuntu 18.04, I uncommented all the deb-src directives, I want to download linux-modules-4.18-25-generic 's source | 21:47 |
| Franciman | but apt source says that the hwe package is selected | 21:47 |
| Franciman | how do I disable this automatic choice? | 21:48 |
| Franciman | I want linux-modules-4.18-25 | 21:48 |
| sarnold | Franciman: I can't find any packages or files named linux-modules-4.18-25-generic on my archive mirror; are you sure you've spelled it correctly? | 21:50 |
| Franciman | uhm sorry 4.18.0-25 | 21:51 |
| Franciman | i missed a 0 | 21:51 |
| jeremy31 | Franciman: That kernel isn't supported anymore | 21:51 |
| Franciman | I want to download its sources | 21:52 |
| Franciman | it's important because with that kernel , my wifi works | 21:52 |
| Franciman | with 5.4 it does not | 21:52 |
| jeremy31 | Franciman: What wifi? | 21:52 |
| Franciman | qualcomm atheros qca6174. With works I mean it doesn't crash | 21:52 |
| jeremy31 | Franciman: Have you disabled wifi power management? | 21:52 |
| Franciman | yes, I tried anything | 21:52 |
| Franciman | you mean doing sudo iw wlp2s0 set power_save off | 21:53 |
| Franciman | right? | 21:53 |
| jeremy31 | Franciman: I usually do> sudo iwconfig wlp2s0 power off | 21:53 |
| Franciman | ok yes | 21:53 |
| Franciman | jeremy31, the problem is that when I connect a specific huawei device to the same 5GHz wifi network | 21:53 |
| Franciman | my wifi card gets stuck | 21:53 |
| Franciman | and doesn't send packets nor receives anything | 21:54 |
| Franciman | but is still connected to the AP | 21:54 |
| jeremy31 | Franciman: But Network Manager can enable power save also | 21:54 |
| Franciman | but it does not send any interrupt to the driver | 21:54 |
| Franciman | while with the 4.15 kernel it works fine, now I want to try all kernels until one fails | 21:54 |
| Franciman | so that I can diff | 21:54 |
| Franciman | and see what changed | 21:55 |
| Ratel | linux and wifi is always a pain in the neck | 21:55 |
| Franciman | and write a patch for 5.4 or newer kernel | 21:55 |
| jeremy31 | Franciman: See http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ | 21:55 |
| Franciman | thanks | 21:56 |
| jeremy31 | Franciman: It might help to open a terminal before connecting running> tail -f /var/log/syslog | 21:56 |
| Franciman | I did | 21:56 |
| Franciman | I also inserted debug messages in the driver | 21:57 |
| Franciman | what seems to be happening is that at some time, the interrupt handler is not called anymore | 21:57 |
| Franciman | so I get no answers from the card | 21:57 |
| Franciman | and I can't neither determine whether packets were sent (because this relies on tx completion) neither get received packets | 21:57 |
| jeremy31 | Franciman: see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2354328&p=13614520&#post13614520 as the first command will keep Network Manager from enabling wifi power management | 21:58 |
| jeremy31 | I know most Atheros chipsets don't work well with power management or TKIP encryption | 21:59 |
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| Franciman | sorry jeremy31 I spoke too early | 22:05 |
| Franciman | the wifi crashed lol | 22:05 |
| jeremy31 | Franciman: see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2354328&p=13614520&#post13614520 as the first command will keep Network Manager from enabling wifi power management | 22:05 |
| Franciman | thanks | 22:07 |
| Franciman | how can I avoid this shitty behaviour of apt | 22:15 |
| Franciman | I don't want 5.3 | 22:15 |
| Franciman | I want 4.18 kernel | 22:15 |
| Franciman | should I call the police? | 22:15 |
| Franciman | it's my right to download the source of the kernel I'm using | 22:15 |
| leftyfb | Franciman: I just read up on your issue ... | 22:24 |
| Franciman | hi leftyfb | 22:25 |
| leftyfb | Franciman: try the latest kernel and deleting /lib/firmware/ath10k/QCA6174/hw3.0/firmware-6.bin | 22:25 |
| leftyfb | Franciman: we have issues with that later firmware and have been using the -4 version for a couple years now | 22:26 |
| Franciman | leftyfb, so you don't think it's a driver related problem? | 22:26 |
| Franciman | I mean with 4.15 driver it works | 22:27 |
| Franciman | and I use the same firmware, firmware-6 | 22:27 |
| Franciman | as with 4.18 (and 5.4) | 22:27 |
| leftyfb | Franciman: I'm just telling you what worked for us and gives you something else to try | 22:27 |
| leftyfb | Franciman: try -4 with 5.4 | 22:27 |
| Franciman | oh I see | 22:27 |
| Franciman | thanks, btw | 22:27 |
| Franciman | but I'd still like to diff the drivers | 22:28 |
| Franciman | if only I could tell apt to apply my rights to view the code | 22:28 |
| Franciman | anyways thanks a lot leftyfb are you also on a 5GHz network? | 22:28 |
| leftyfb | Yes | 22:28 |
| Franciman | damn qualcomm | 22:30 |
| Franciman | thanks a lot leftyfb I shall definitely try | 22:30 |
| Franciman | I'd love for them to make a paux faux and use some free software | 22:31 |
| Franciman | Then I'd sue the hell out of them | 22:31 |
| Franciman | and their shitty firmwares | 22:31 |
| Deyaa | ddubya: what do you think about https://securesocketfunneling.github.io/ssf/#home | 22:47 |
| MrSassyPants | discord wants to update but can't, again | 22:47 |
| ddubya | Deyaa, I like the simplicity of the ssh tunnel method. Used it for years for forwarding databases and other stuff | 22:50 |
| ddubya | other benefit of ssh is probably more secure as it gets a lot of attention | 22:54 |
| ddubya | ssf uses openssl at the end of the day, looks like. so can't be too bad | 22:57 |
| sarnold | it's very possible to write unsafe stuff using openssl | 22:57 |
| sarnold | openssl is practically famous for that property :) | 22:57 |
| ddubya | true | 22:58 |
| ddubya | but it gets a lot of scrutiny | 22:58 |
| Deyaa | I find SSH really good. And I like it so much. But it keeps asking me for local user password whenever a connection error happen. | 23:04 |
| Deyaa | sarnold: all cryptography technologies are backdoored out of the box | 23:06 |
| Deyaa | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/TzaBbcB5 | 23:08 |
| Deyaa | https://www.theregister.com/2017/12/15/crypto_mathematical_backdoors/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+FreshnewsMostClicked+%2528freshnews+most+clicked+headlines%2529 | 23:09 |
| chovy | my battery won't charge. new charger. it makes a noise when i plug it in. but there's no lightning bolt and it just stays at 96% | 23:43 |
| chovy | anyway to troubleshoot this? | 23:43 |
| jeremy31 | chovy: You might need to shut it down, remove power cord and battery, then reconnect the battery and cord | 23:44 |
| chovy | i don't have the tools | 23:44 |
| FurretUber | Hi, is the Chromium snap with VAAPI enabled still available? | 23:54 |
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