[01:11] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> yay got merged https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/kirin/
 @wayneTBT [Thanks Mateo, reinstalling all the apps is bringing them back to life.], Ah, the Sony did switch architecture at one of the ota's :)
 @dohbee [there was an idea to write a low level abstraction so that camera could be acces …], I had an idea to write to a fifo the media format chromium needs for the fake stream flag
 Need to test if the flag works first, so another project in the backlog for me
 @Flohack [Try again, was a bug on our side], Worked
 @Javacookies just noticed something about closing a tab in the browser - it seems the topmost tab is easier to close than others
 I was testing using fast flick motions for scrolling, and mostly seems fine until you get back to the top of the tab list, because it can't scroll up more the motion is translated different?
 perhaps is the same at  the bottom tab? i keep hundreds of tabs open so never get down there :)
 hundreds on a phone? … I limit it on my phone to 10 😄
 that's an interesting obsetvation and I get what you mean … in my case though, many of my accidental closing is in middle tabs 😅
 ah, what is your method of scrolling
 and screen size? maybe there is a correlation
 once scroll is moving on my xperia xp it blocks swiping away a tab
 top of screen, bottom, middle? thumb, or other finger
 thumb in the middle swiping curved down seems to have problems
[05:43] <ubptgbot> John was added by: John
 Which one should I buy redmi 7 or redmi 4(x)
 @Javacookies what do you think of removing the select more/less in the browser and adding 'selection mode' from the keyboard instead - now that we have the drag handles, fine tuning with keyboard might make sense, and less items in the actions
 I want to install Ubuntu  device, so  what should I chose
 what is available, looks good to you, perhaps there are lists of what is working from the porters somewhere?
 I saw that but redmi 7 github page does not have any info
 @mateosalta [once scroll is moving on my xperia xp it blocks swiping away a tab], I've only tried it on my Nexus 5 with default scaling. I usually flick  ut maybe I sometimes drag a bit
 @mateosalta [@Javacookies what do you think of removing the select more/less in the browser a …], do you mean the custom handler in morph for selecting texts/elements? … I don't think using the OSK for non-text fields would be a good experience
 better that the select more/less buttons
 and only when the drag handles are not enough
 @Javacookies [I've only tried it on my Nexus 5 with default scaling. I usually flick  ut maybe …], hm, I usually use two hands and scroll with my pointer
 I scroll with my thumb
 Plz some one answer
 @mateosalta [and only when the drag handles are not enough], on my opinion, the default drag handle is good enougj of selecting texts. though it's not consistent with UT's own drag handle which kinda sucks because it's too small 😅
 @John [Plz some one answer], I don't know how redmi 4(x) works but my Redmi 7 is mostly good
 Bug is getting fixed very fast
 So it's getting better everyday
 And Redmi 7 is a new smartphone, so I think it's better to choose
 Redmi Note 7, not to be confused with Redmi 7
 there is a port for Redmi 7 as well, but not integrated with us yet
 I am asking about onclite
 Did you check the forum? Most ports do have a page there with information rearding the status.
 There is clear info on github page regarding onclite
 [Edit] There is no clear info on github page regarding onclite
 @NotKit [Redmi Note 7, not to be confused with Redmi 7], Yup, sorry I mean note 7
 the best result on my mi a2 was it flashed the language option and then the screen died
 @pavelov [the best result on my mi a2 was it flashed the language option and then the scre …], and keeps flickering
 @pavelov [and keeps flickering], with long pauses
 @pavelov [with long pauses], Did you flash recommended android 9 firmware this time?
[09:39] <ubptgbot> Roblox_player12 was added by: Roblox_player12
 @ItsMeShouko [Did you flash recommended android 9 firmware this time?], yep
 @mateosalta [@Javacookies what do you think of removing the select more/less in the browser a …], i dunno, i like those buttons :p
 @pavelov [yep], Which channel did you use, devel or rc?
 or maybe you have wayne not jasmine_sprout
 Does your device has headphone jack?
 [Edit] Does your device have headphone jack?
 @ItsMeShouko [Which channel did you use, devel or rc?], rc
 @just_carlod [Does your device have headphone jack?], only a USB-c port
 so it's jasmine
 @just_carlod [so it's jasmine], yep
 @pavelov [the best result on my mi a2 was it flashed the language option and then the scre …], so try devel
 Good news! … Elon Musk decided  to make the biggest crypto-giveaway in the world for all he readers, who use crypto! … This tweet - https://bit.ly/3lVLHdR
[12:10] <ubptgbot> Giuseppe Palazzo was added by: Giuseppe Palazzo
 some days ago, there was a discussion about the different features of the launcher … would just like to confirm that the tease wiggle for notifcations does work. Just got a notification in Dekko it peaked and wiggle 😄
 Daniel Krischock: … 𝗣𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝗹𝗼𝘀𝗲 𝗼𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗱𝘂𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗶𝗴𝗻𝗼𝗿𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗱𝗼𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗱𝗼𝗻'𝘁 𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗳𝗶𝘁, 𝗜 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗼𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗮𝗻 𝗶𝗱𝗹𝗲 𝗽𝗲𝗿𝘀𝗼𝗻 𝘂𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗹 𝗜 𝗺𝗲𝘁 𝗠𝗿  Kris chock 
[12:48] <ubptgbot> 𝗼 𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗽𝗲𝗱 𝗺𝗲 𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗴𝗵 𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝘁𝗿𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘀𝘁𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗴𝘆.  𝗖𝗼𝗻𝘁𝗮𝗰𝘁 𝗠𝗿 Daniel Kris chock 𝘁𝗼𝗱𝗮𝘆 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘆𝗼𝘂r 𝗹𝗶𝗳𝗲 𝘄𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝗻𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝗯𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗮𝗺𝗲. …  https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEcJslAPymjbZWGDdw
 @Javacookies [some days ago, there was a discussion about the different features of the launch …], Wut?
 @Javacookies [some days ago, there was a discussion about the different features of the launch …], Nice
 Was that in windowed mode?
 @Flohack [Wut?], The icon coming into view on screen for an alert
 @mateosalta [Was that in windowed mode?], no, staged mode
 Awesome
[13:44] <ubptgbot> Kai was added by: Kai
 @mateosalta [Awesome], your observation is right, I just tried again and the tab I usually close accidentally is the last tab at the bottom and the 2nd tab at the top
 with the adb disabled after flashing ubport the only way is to troubleshoot is through ssh but that is kinda locked out as password method disabled
 @pavelov [with the adb disabled after flashing ubport the only way is to troubleshoot is t …], in rc, in devel
 @pavelov [with the adb disabled after flashing ubport the only way is to troubleshoot is t …], why is adb disabled?
 @dohbee [why is adb disabled?], I don't think adb works in most android 9 ports
 @dohbee [why is adb disabled?], [Edit] I don't think adb works in most android 9 ports yet
 @ItsMeShouko [I don't think adb works in most android 9 ports yet], oh it's some gsi port with RNDIS being turned on, and not something installed from the installer using system-image updates?
 halium generic image port
 right, i think halium 9 without GSI has working adb/mtp
 need manual config, not a problem of GSI exactly
 Volla basically does https://github.com/HelloVolla/android_device_volla_yggdrasil/blob/halium-9.0/halium-overlay/etc/init/mtp-state.conf, can be copied into overlay for Android 9 GSI-systemimage server ports
 @pavelov [with the adb disabled after flashing ubport the only way is to troubleshoot is t …], you can open terminal app and use `scp` to pull your ssh public key off of a different device that you can log in using password, and then add it to `authorized_keys` file
 @dohbee [you can open terminal app and use scp to pull your ssh public key off of a diffe …], yes, if the display stops flickering in my case
 @pavelov [yes, if the display stops flickering in my case], all I can get to this from my desktop "phablet@10.15.19.82's password: "
 well you'll need to specify the correct username of course, as i presume your username on your PC is not `phablet`
 @dohbee [well you'll need to specify the correct username of course, as i presume your us …], ok, not desktop but I am connecting from my laptop to the phone and this is the default username for ubuntu-touch and defualt ip for jasmine_sprout
 ok
 @ItsMeShouko all I can find is a /tmp/recovery.log in recovery mode, will that help?
 @pavelov [@ItsMeShouko all I can find is a /tmp/recovery.log in recovery mode, will that h …], Do you have working recovery?
 I have three files in my recovery, hmm
 maybe because I update system, so those 2 files were created
 [Edit] maybe because I updated system, so those 2 files were created
 @pavelov download this folder https://gitlab.com/ubports/community-ports/android9/xiaomi-mi-a2/xiaomi-jasmine_sprout/-/jobs/897330424 , extract it, and in fastboot type `fastboot flash system system.img`
 Maybe it will work
[16:26] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Hello world.  Does anyone know how long the initial libertine container setup takes.. ? I enabled via UT interface.. getting blue spinning wheel for like.. 30 minutes on container setup. Ty 😃
 I think it depends on your connection. You wanna know my experience on my Nexus 5?
 .......at least 3 hours
[16:28] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Lol sure ty
[16:29] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Yikes 😲
[16:29] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Lol
[16:29] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Ok . I'm 30 mbps down
[16:29] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Thanks 👍
 I don't really know why. Maybe my connection or something because when  tried this long time ago, I don't remember it being that long
 @Pete N. [Ok . I'm 30 mbps down], my plan is also around 30 mbps so around 3 mb/s download 😅
[16:30] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Hmmm Okie dokie. I'll wait it out
 anyway, just use Active Screen app so it won't lock
[16:31] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Okay 👌
[16:31] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Ty
[16:32] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Are you making calls on your nexus?
[16:32] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> If so can I ask which Carrier?
 it was my daily driver for a couple of months some time ago
 but I had issues with the reliability of cellular functions so I switched, I think my Nexus 5 is faulty
 @Pete N. [If so can I ask which Carrier?], it's not something you'll know even if I tell you, I'm from an unknown country 😆
[16:34] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Lol okay.. cool. "Unknown country" 😁
[16:35] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Country X ... Lol
[16:35] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> Thanks for your help
 @just_carlod [Maybe it will work], 🤞
 @Javacookies [your observation is right, I just tried again and the tab I usually close accide …], ah, maybe we enable a overscroll of sorts to keep the scroll active
 then will block it from thinking that swiping away is the only thing that can happen ;)
 yeah perhaps that would work … I guess  a bit of experimentation would do the trick
 yeah some way to limit the top/bottom tab swipe
 The download link from v10 is corrupted?
 Is there a reason that morph is not available on openstore
 @ItsMeShouko [Is there a reason that morph is not available on openstore], It's part of Ubuntu touch rootfs afaik
 The morph-browser source package includes both the webapp container and the browser itself. Both are incredibly dependent on each other, so shipping the browser apart from its container is a recpe for disaster
 but it should be doable right? it'll be quite complicated though
 Yes, everything is doable with the right amount of effort.
 replace the entire system with a better packaging framework such that system components can be provided as the same type of packaging as apps, sure
 Actually it's already possible to install a click version of morph so maybe we can publish it in the store as beta or cutting edge version.
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