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jibelGood morning 06:13
dufluMorning jibel 06:14
jibelHi duflu 06:16
didrocksgood morning07:07
dufluMorning didrocks 07:08
didrockshey duflu 07:09
tjaaltonlinux-generic-hwe-20.04 is installed by default on focal desktop, meaning it'll roll forward to hwe-5.8 automatically. this is different to previous lts's, is there some documentation about that? the release notes didn't mention it07:44
Maiktjaalton: been searching for that for a while now but couldn't find anything. Kinda weird since hwe only comes with the 2nd pointrelease07:54
tjaaltonwhat do you mean "only"?07:55
tjaaltonit's the same focal archive07:55
Laneymoin09:04
Laneytjaalton: don't know, maybe ask (other) kernel folks09:05
Laneyit is deliberate though09:05
didrockshey Laney 09:08
juliankheh me Laney highlight works09:08
ricotztjaalton, a new installation using a recent focal iso will install the hwe stack by default, but only starting with the 2nd point release09:11
ricotztjaalton, and yeah I can confirm this is happening already09:11
ricotzhello desktopers!09:11
ricotztjaalton, I assume when using a daily focal iso this is expected09:12
tjaaltonricotz: no, it's the same with .0/.109:13
Laneyjuliank: you are highlighting on my nick?!?!?!?!?!?!?!09:13
Laneymoin didrocks 09:13
juliankLaney: I need to restrict it to ubuntu-release, but yeah it can be useful for autopkgtest requests09:13
Laneyhaha09:14
Laneyit's ok09:14
Laneyyou can do my work if you want09:14
ricotztjaalton, I see, then the hwe kernel meta packages are seeded already which a wrong? 09:14
Laneyit's not wrong09:14
Laneyit's different though09:14
Laneymaybe ask Andy, something might be written down somewhere09:15
ricotzwrong/different is the same thing here09:15
ricotzso it is unexpected09:15
Laneywhat09:15
tjaaltonok so it was part of the ga/oem kernel thing09:46
tjaaltonin the installer09:46
Laneyyeah that's sort of the project it came out of, HWE turned into a "track" to follow - but it's applied more generally than just for those devices09:59
Laneybut you started a discussion and now someone is going to write it up somewhere09:59
Laneywell done tjaalton ;-)09:59
tjaaltonhehe10:13
tjaaltonit was pointed out elsewhere, but it wasn't clear if it was deliberate or not10:15
xnoxtjaalton:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_Desktop "Ubuntu Desktop flavour now always tracks HWE kernel (hardware enablement). It means that from 20.04.2 release Ubuntu Desktop will gain new major kernel versions every 6 months through to summer of 2022." this just in10:28
xnoxtjaalton: note that Ubuntu Server uses generic by default, as always.10:28
tjaaltonxnox: thanks for adding that ;)10:29
luna_Hello desktoppers :)13:32
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luna_Desktop meeting in 5 minutes14:25
hellsworthgood morning desktopers14:29
Wimpresso/14:29
luna_good afternoon here in Sweden, has installed Ubuntu MATE on another Desktop and translated some Pluma things today14:30
Wimpress#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-12-0814:30
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WimpressRoll call:  didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 , tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk14:30
marcustomlinson\o14:30
luna_\o/14:30
hellswortho/14:30
jibelhi14:31
didrocks999hey14:31
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WimpressRight, let's get started :-)14:32
Wimpress#topic rls-bb-bugs14:32
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Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html14:32
luna_no desktop team things14:32
WimpressAll clear.14:32
Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:32
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/190687714:33
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1906877 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Groovy) "diagnostics panel can leave automatic crash reporting enabled" [Undecided,New]14:33
WimpressLooks like Brian is working that.,14:34
kenvandineo/14:35
WimpressNothing else there.14:35
Wimpress#topic rls-ff-bugs14:35
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Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html14:35
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187226814:36
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1872268 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Gnome Shell completely freezes in Ubuntu 20.04 when clicking outside of app icon folders (when ubuntu-dock is loaded)" [High,Confirmed]14:36
luna_and a crash in ubiquity: http://launchpad.net/bugs/1870508 14:36
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870508 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a()" [Undecided,New]14:36
WimpressDaniel has been working that. I'll assign him.14:37
Wimpresshttp://launchpad.net/bugs/187050814:37
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1870508 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with SIGSEGV in g_type_check_instance_is_a()" [Undecided,New]14:37
Laneywhy is that there?14:38
Wimpressmarcustomlinson: Is the gtk+3.0 a valid component or is it just atk?14:38
kenvandineI thought that was atk14:39
LaneyI don't think it should be, I would delete that task and ask Amr to actually explain if they want to re add it14:39
marcustomlinsonyeah I don't see how gtk got involved there14:39
WimpressI've removed it.14:39
Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:40
Wimpresshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/185575714:41
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1855757 in mutter (Ubuntu Focal) "[nvidia] Background image corrupted after standby or resume from suspend" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:41
WimpressThat is included in error. Marked as Won't Fix for nvidia.14:41
WimpressI think that is all.14:42
Wimpress#topic rls-gg-bugs14:43
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Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html14:43
WimpressAll in hand.14:43
Wimpresshttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:43
luna_same GNOME-settings diagnostics thing14:44
luna_looks like the rest is sorted14:45
Wimpresshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/190582514:45
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1905825 in mutter (Ubuntu Hirsute) "[SRU] Disable CRTCs when system becomes headless" [Undecided,New]14:45
WimpressLooks like Daniel will be best placed to add that patch.14:47
luna_got a to old computers with Haswell but upstream is working on a patch: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1561 14:47
Wimpress#topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages14:48
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Wimpresshttps://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages14:48
WimpressErk14:48
luna_less then last week 14:48
WimpressLaney: Anything in that lots we should be concerned about?14:49
Laneysoz14:51
Wimpressnp14:51
Laneyall of the bold ones probably do want looking into14:52
Laneymaybe tkamppeter could take the hplip build failuers14:52
WimpressOK14:53
Laneynot sure about the rest, might want to assign them out of band14:53
WimpressYeah, was just thinking that. 14:53
Laneyhow did the firmware end up in the seed ...14:53
WimpressNo idea. Will need to look into that one.14:54
Wimpress#topic AOB14:54
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WimpressAnything anyone would like to discuss?14:55
WimpressLast chance :-)14:55
Laneyyeah, hellsworth, we should hook up about the uicheck thing - saw your status14:55
hellsworthyeah cool laney thanks :)14:55
Laneythat is all14:56
WimpressOK. 14:56
WimpressThanks everyone.14:56
hellsworththanks!14:57
Wimpress#endmeeting14:57
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Dec  8 14:57:05 2020 UTC.  14:57
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2020/ubuntu-desktop.2020-12-08-14.30.moin.txt14:57
luna_thx 14:57
didrocksthx!14:57
marcustomlinson👍14:57
LaneyQuality Meeting14:57
hellsworthLaney: can i ping you in 30 min and we hop into a room?14:57
dokoanybody still connected with autopilot? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autopilot/1.6.0+17.04.20170313-0ubuntu1114:57
Laneyhellsworth: okey14:58
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