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cpaelzerwaveform: xnox: pre-ping - I wanted to ask if you two would be around in ~30 min?  Reason: a few of the discussions on the MIR Team meeting will be related to your recent activities15:01
dokodo you want to hit him yourself? I mean, I can do that later anyway ;)15:29
cpaelzerdoko: hehe, I'm fine either way - but if they are around surely the round-trip time will be reduced15:29
cpaelzerhence my pre-pings15:29
cpaelzerlet us get this started ....15:29
cpaelzer#startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status15:29
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cpaelzerping jamespage ddstreet doko didrocks sarnold15:30
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cpaelzerwe can skip "Review of previous action items" since we had none and right away go to a rather crowded component mismatches ...15:30
cpaelzer#topic current component mismatches15:30
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cpaelzer#link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg15:30
cpaelzer#link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg15:30
cpaelzerfirst a few riscv related cases15:31
cpaelzerwe have seen them last week already15:31
cpaelzerthis is due to https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/commit/?id=6e2571375f95c01bc26f912b1de20909b8f2e54715:31
cpaelzeron https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opensbi/+bug/1906668 I think this is dead-by-wrong-state15:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1906668 in opensbi (Ubuntu) "[MIR] opensbi" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:31
cpaelzerxnox: this one is "confirmed" which makes it not appear int he MIR teams queue15:31
cpaelzerxnox: can I assume you want this reviewed - in that case I'd set it back to new15:31
cpaelzerdoko: feel free to answer if you happen to know15:32
cpaelzerFurthermore the same change triggered u-boot-menu which still lacks a MIR15:32
cpaelzeryou'd first think it is the same as all other u-boot-* which are already in main15:32
cpaelzerbut this is a different source15:32
cpaelzerso we'd need a new MIR15:33
dokoI don't know. will ping him tomorrow15:33
cpaelzerxnox: doko: would you mind to add that MIR (and keep it in "new" once ready)15:33
sarnoldgood morning15:33
cpaelzerdoko: thanks for keeping that discussion ongoging with him then15:33
cpaelzerthe next is similar15:33
cpaelzera set of packages related to needrestart15:33
cpaelzerdue to https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/ubuntu/commit/?id=ed7003d4c9a0be80e8a17699baa858b2bf1ce06b15:33
dokothat's server ...15:34
cpaelzerit was added to the server seed15:34
cpaelzerbut so far I've not heard that the activity on this would have passed to us15:34
dokounseed it?15:35
cpaelzerunless that happened between xnox and ?? (maybe rharding) I'd expect MIRs requests on those15:35
cpaelzerdoko: how about me starting a mail thread with the relevant people requesting to clarify who has the current action items?15:35
cpaelzerIIRC I have had some related discussions in my inbox, I can refer to those15:35
cpaelzer#action - christian to ping xnox / rharding and others to clarify who is in the driver seed tor needrestart15:36
meetingologyACTION: - christian to ping xnox / rharding and others to clarify who is in the driver seed tor needrestart15:36
cpaelzernext in mismatches that isn't a usual suspect is rubygems15:36
cpaelzerdoko: I have spoken with kanashiro15:37
dokocpaelzer: sounds good. please add mclemenceau15:37
cpaelzerI will15:37
cpaelzerdoko: he is on cleanup duty now that he is back - part of that is rubygems15:37
cpaelzerdoko: it was in main as it was part of the same source15:37
dokoso wait some more days?15:37
cpaelzerdoko: it was shipped wit h the interpreter and then changed upstream15:38
cpaelzerdoko: we re-introduced the same we had before15:38
dokoso promote again?15:38
cpaelzerbut since it was removed in Debian/Ubuntu in between it now shows up as mismatch15:38
cpaelzerdoko: could I ask you to re-promote it on the base of the former promotion which was at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gem2deb/+bug/894827/comments/10 ?15:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 894827 in rubygems (Ubuntu) "[MIR] gem2deb" [Undecided,Fix released]15:39
dokook, doing. let's follow-up on this next week15:39
cpaelzerthanks15:39
cpaelzerkanashiro: ^^ could you prep a "where we are at with ruby - info" until next tuesday?15:40
cpaelzersizzle and rpi-eeprom I'd discuss in the incomplete bug section15:40
cpaelzeranything else in mismatches to bring up ?15:40
cpaelzerI consider this a no (or being asleep :-P )15:40
cpaelzer#topic New MIRs15:40
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cpaelzerthe list is empty15:40
cpaelzer#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir15:40
cpaelzerbut once xnox replies likely will contain opensbi15:41
cpaelzeronce set back from confirmed to new15:41
cpaelzerif one has spare cycles and sees this in his inbox please feel free to grab15:41
cpaelzer#topic Incomplete bugs / questions15:41
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cpaelzer#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir15:41
cpaelzeron postgresql-13 things migrated and got promoted.15:41
cpaelzer-12 is almost able to be rmeoved, hopefulyl we can do so before end of next week15:42
cpaelzersizzle is the next in incomplete15:42
cpaelzerdoko: did you hear anything about it ?15:42
cpaelzerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sizzle/+bug/190651415:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1906514 in node-jquery (Ubuntu Hirsute) "sizzle needs a MIR, or node-jquery needs dropping the recommends" [High,Confirmed]15:42
cpaelzerI see tag updates by mclemenceau and bdmurray - what do they tell us?15:42
dokosorry, no15:42
dokothey are recorded in jira now15:43
cpaelzerok, could you carry that to the team meeting to get reolved mid-term?15:43
dokook15:43
cpaelzerand finally https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpi-eeprom/+bug/189513715:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1895137 in rpi-eeprom (Ubuntu) "[MIR] rpi-eeprom; raspberrypi-userland" [Undecided,In progress]15:43
cpaelzerwaveform: ^^15:43
cpaelzerdoko has outlined todo's ~1 month ago on that bug15:43
cpaelzerwaveform: I wanted to know if this is incomplete as in "ack I'll do it at some point" or as in "we'll give u then"15:44
dokoPi's are slow ;p15:44
cpaelzerbecause depending on this it will have different cleanups to be done now :-)15:44
cpaelzerwaveform: if you only happen to read this later an update on the bug would be fine as well (even preferred)15:44
waveformcpaelzer, that's basically done - I've just got to update the bug15:44
cpaelzerok, then do it :-)15:44
cpaelzerthat is all I wanted to bring up today15:44
cpaelzerthanks team15:44
waveformwhen I'm back from holiday :)15:44
cpaelzer#topic Any other business?15:45
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didrocksnothing for me15:45
sarnoldnothing from me15:45
cpaelzerFYI - for your time planning expect more effort being needed for MIR reviews in Jan/Feb15:45
cpaelzersince as usual eveone has a late idea that needs to get in15:45
cpaelzerwaveform: FYI I updated the bug15:46
cpaelzerok that is it for today then ...15:46
cpaelzerthank you everyone15:46
sarnoldthanks cpaelzer, all :)15:47
cpaelzer#endmeeting15:47
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cpaelzerdoko: if there is anything odd with the re-promotion of rubygems feel free to ping kanashiro directly15:47
dokocpaelzer: still online?15:52
cpaelzeryeah doko15:52
dokocpaelzer: see pm15:53
kanashirocpaelzer, sure, I can report the ruby status next Tuesday15:59
xnoxcpaelzer:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/u-boot-menu/+bug/190728417:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1907284 in u-boot-menu (Ubuntu) "[MIR] u-boot-menu" [Undecided,New]17:06
xnoxcpaelzer:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/opensbi/+bug/190666817:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1906668 in opensbi (Ubuntu) "[MIR] opensbi" [Undecided,New]17:06
xnoxcpaelzer:  re:needsrestart i think there is broad agreement to have needrestart by default. But somebody needs to make some UX calls on the "look & feel". I.e. should it be informational only, and if the stock configuration of things to restart / not to restart is good enough. At the moment it is advisory only. Meaning non-interactive installs do nothing, and the default option for17:08
xnoxinteractive installs is like "yes please restart somewhat safe amount of services, potentially killing my session requiring a relogin, kthxbye"17:08
xnoxwhich i'm not sure is "tasteful enough" "on-rails" and so on.17:08

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