[21:03] <kc2bez> Meeting time.
[21:03] <kc2bez> !standup
 testing Hirsute and Focal dailys - calamares timezone 1904974 occuring again latest Focal dailys...
[21:05] <kc2bez> Yeah the SRU fix never got uploaded.
 Done
[21:06] <kc2bez> Thanks @Leokolb
[21:06] <kc2bez> Thanks for the testing.
[21:06] <kc2bez> Great to have you here.
 tks..great to be here
[21:06] <wxl> i'm here
[21:06] <KGIII> Yup.
[21:07] <wxl> um i killed the lounge on discourse :)
[21:07] <kc2bez> Ok
[21:07] <wxl> i'm curious about this and intend to look a bit deeper into it https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/libreoffice-export-to-pdf-has-no-text/1042/17
[21:07] <wxl> and i don't tink i have too much else right now
 @wxl [<wxl> i'm curious about this and intend to look a bit deeper into it https://dis …], Isn't vcl issue?
[21:08] <wxl> @HMollerCl don't know. so i'm going to see what i can figure out.
[21:08] <wxl> chances are, it's probably the gtk version.
[21:08] <kc2bez> Interesting.
[21:08] <kc2bez> Thanks wxl
[21:09] <wxl> yep
[21:09] <kc2bez> KGIII: welcome
[21:09] <kc2bez> What is new?
[21:10] <KGIII> I have two images that I'd like to share. They're examples of very trivial things that I'm not sure require bug reports. http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1607635074.png  and  http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1607635032.png
[21:11] <KGIII> One is weird commas that should probably be ellipses and the other is 'pcmanfm' when it should be 'pcmanfm-qt'. (I think)
[21:11] <wxl> yeah i could see that
[21:11] <wxl> the latter one is probably an upstream problem
[21:11] <KGIII> Both are extremely trivial. I just notice things like that.
[21:11] <kc2bez> That is good
 agree
[21:12] <kc2bez> Not sure if that second one is us or upstream. 
[21:13] <wxl> the quassel one is odd
[21:13] <kc2bez> yeah
[21:13] <kc2bez> I wonder what it looks like on IRC
[21:13] <KGIII> I can start a VM and check. Gimme a minute.
[21:14] <wxl> i wonder if kubuntu doesn't have the same issue
[21:14] <wxl> they ship quassel right?
[21:14] <kc2bez> No
[21:14] <kc2bez> K something 
[21:14] <kc2bez> lol
[21:14] <wxl> i mean we have a quassel config somewhere, right?
 Latest Kubuntu dailys do not install at all
[21:15] <wxl> not at all? whoa
[21:15] <lubuntu> this is me
[21:15] <wxl> hi me
[21:15] <lubuntu> LOL KGIII
[21:15] <kc2bez> I think Ubuntu's is Lubuntu's
[21:15] <wxl> you're saying we're the default, kc2bez ? XD
[21:15] <guiverc> kubuntu has issue with ubiquity (issue is with Qt; known)
[21:15] <KGIII> That's what it looks like.
[21:15] <kc2bez> yeah
[21:16] <wxl> guiverc: i thought that was an edgecase that has been ongoing?
[21:16] <guiverc> it's become serious I guess
[21:16] <guiverc> last i booted kubuntu; you needed to tweak boot options just to get live to work
[21:17] <kc2bez> oh wow
 k still the same
[21:17] <wxl> there's this https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quassel/tree/debian/patches/lubuntu_01_default_network_channel.patch?h=ubuntu/hirsute-devel
[21:17] <wxl> but it doesn't seem to be there
[21:17] <guiverc> wxl, kubuntu issue is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1903378
[21:18]  * guiverc sorry if that was distraction; unwanted
[21:18] <wxl> guiverc: well i'm glad we're using calamares. that's all i'll say XD
[21:19] <kc2bez> same
[21:20] <wxl> "live session user" is not found in the repo
[21:21] <kc2bez> So the commas must be the right thing. It comes out like this lubuntu is now known as Guest84362
[21:21] <KGIII> It was just plain "lubuntu" with no punctuation on my screen. The username is taken so I couldn't authenticate and it then changed to the guest nickname.
[21:22] <wxl> can't find "live session user" anywhere in the repo
[21:22] <wxl> oops
[21:22] <wxl> the username isn't the issue, but the realname
[21:22] <kc2bez> Right
[21:22] <wxl> 1322 -!- lubuntu [~AdminUser@dsl-74-209-0-64.fairpoint.net]
[21:22] <wxl> 1322 -!-  was      : Live session user,,,
[21:23] <KGIII> Ah, there they are.
[21:23] <kc2bez> yeah AdminUser. Wonder where that comes from
[21:23] <wxl> username on that box usually
[21:23] <kc2bez> Yes, I knew that :P 
[21:24] <kc2bez> I meant something must set it initially
[21:24] <wxl> right, agreed
[21:25] <kc2bez> Anyway, thanks for the rabbit hole KGIII, it looks like it needs more investigation.
[21:25] <wxl> what a nightmare
[21:25] <KGIII> From my perspective, it was rather trivial. I had no idea it'd turn into a long process.
[21:26] <KGIII> To which I say, "Ha! You're welcome!"
[21:26] <kc2bez> XD
[21:26] <wxl> usually the rule is that if you come up with the rabbit hole, you have to traverse it
 well spotted!
[21:26] <kc2bez> Indeed
[21:26] <KGIII> I lack the skills. ;-)
[21:26] <wxl> and the responsibility to do so increases with greater triviality XD
[21:27] <kc2bez> @HMollerCl anything new with you?
[21:27] <wxl> `apt-file search` might be a good way to figure out where the config comes from
[21:27] <wxl> and the config should be in `$HOME/.config` somewhere
[21:27] <KGIII> I'll spend some time tonight so see if I can spot it. I'm a horrible programmer but I know a bit. I'll see what happens and update folks.
[21:27] <kc2bez> Hopefully gets copied from somewhere wxl
[21:28] <kc2bez> Thanks KGIII
[21:29] <kc2bez> guiverc: over to you.
[21:30] <guiverc> sorry for being late, usual support.. yesterday chasing issues with hexchat; will do a touch more research.. 
[21:30] <guiverc> not much else sorry (forgot today it was friday; hadn't thought about this)
[21:30] <kc2bez> Thanks for all your help with the support.
[21:31] <kc2bez> Here is what I have:
[21:31] <kc2bez> * Uploaded Calamares 3.2.35 to hirsute
[21:31] <kc2bez> * Created a ticket for teward to help us fix CI (which he did, thanks @teward001)
[21:31] <kc2bez> * Created a task for the website update and linked the brainstorm notes https://phab.lubuntu.me/T178
[21:31] <kc2bez> * I've been trying to be more available in support and the forums, it has been active recently.
[21:31] <teward> *waves*
[21:31] <kc2bez> o/
[21:32] <kc2bez> still TODO:
[21:32] <kc2bez> * Calamares settings.
[21:32] <kc2bez> * Review guiverc's write up on art contest and make comments.
[21:32] <kc2bez> That is all I have
[21:32] <guiverc> you've always been active in support kc2bez , that's my opinion anyway 
[21:32] <kc2bez> teward: Do you have anything to add?
[21:32] <wxl> thanks a good job!
[21:32] <kc2bez> Thanks!
[21:32] <teward> yep i have one update on the ticket bit
[21:33] <kc2bez> sure
[21:33] <teward> Simon's SSH access to CI was pulled because of this incident
[21:33] <teward> since he broke it :P
[21:34] <kc2bez> Okie, I'll let you hash it out with him. 
[21:34] <kc2bez> I will let you know if there are any issues. I don't see any right now.
[21:34] <kc2bez> Thanks for your help!
[21:35] <kc2bez> Anyone have anything else?
[21:36] <wxl> nope
[21:36] <guiverc> Thank you KGIII, teward, wxl, kc2bez, @Leokolb & everyone else for your work in helping the team & our product
[21:36] <wxl> and you as well, guiverc 
[21:36] <kc2bez> Thanks everyone!
[21:36] <KGIII> You're most welcome. It's nice to give back to a project that has given me so much.
[21:37] <kc2bez> See you next week!
 Thanks..
[21:39] <tsimonq2> <teward "Simon's SSH access to CI was pul"> Yeah you pulled access to the person who wrote the thing. :P
[21:39] <tsimonq2> I give it a month
[21:39] <teward> tsimonq2: well, i'll give you access again but not *sudo* because your upgrade attempt torched everything
[21:39] <teward> i literally had to spend 3 hours diging in code to remove the chaos
[21:39] <teward> and then another hour to readd it
[21:39] <teward> so i mean
[21:39] <teward> *angry glare*
[21:39] <teward> next time yo uwant to update Jenkins let me know first :P
[21:39] <teward> so i can prepare for the major outage :P
 tsimonq2: I'll give you access again but you *really* need to not break stuff :P
 :p
 Sorry I couldn't be here today, but I had nothing to mention, I'll read your messages now
 @N0um3n0 [Sorry I couldn't be here today, but I had nothing to mention, I'll read your mes …], No worries, thanks for replying and everything you do.
 thanks to all of you for your enormous work
[22:34] <guiverc> and thanks for your work too @N0um3n0