[00:00] where should custom binaries go? [00:01] e.g. if i download a tar, which extracts to a binary, and i want to have that binary accessible in my path, where do i put the link? [00:02] /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/lib, another? [00:03] /bin [00:04] basenode: should be /usr/bin/ [00:05] Hi there, I'm fairly new to linux and having trouble with package mangement. I want to install python3.9 and pip as well. I added the deadsnakes:ppa repository to try to accomplish this. Now when I try to run sudo apt install python3.9-distutils I get dependency errors and recommended to try apt --fix-broken install however when I run that command [00:05] returns a different error (sub process /bin/dpkg returned error code 1) [00:05] I seem to be hitting a loop of errors and looking for any guidance to troubleshoot this [00:21] nick1: I added that repo, there is no python3.9-distutils [00:22] Fair enough. Maybe it's more of a python question in that case [00:22] thanks [00:33] nick1: normally people leave their python interpreters alone; if you change the system python interpreter you may break all kinds of system scripts [00:34] nick1: if you need to do development work on python 3.9, you might be better suited to build it in your home directory, or perhaps someone's made a snap of it so you could install it alongside, or something similar. is this something virtual-env does? [00:35] basenode: /usr/local/bin is a very common place to put things you've built yourself or downloaded from elsewhere [00:35] basenode: /opt is also popular for "software packages", big things that are more involved than simple programs [00:43] Is there some hard disk light indicator for Ubuntu? [00:44] my husband's computer running 20.04 was having trouble freezing (remember that error?) when he would try to open a new writer page. i suggested he remove and replace Libre Office, and he did that via the Ubuntu software center. He has the files but Libre Office won't open and now he can't connect to IRC (i'm on the same lan), the only thing i see wrong in Hexchat on his is: Error starting IdentD [00:44] server; Error binding to Address. [00:47] ok i can't connect now either. [00:48] chalcedny`: Two different machines ? try rebooting the router ? [00:48] antiPoP: vmstat 1 is very handy "hard disk light" kind of thing [00:48] im checking to see if it's settings on mine first [00:48] lovely to see you Bashing-om :)) [00:49] chalcedny`: And good to ner able to be here :P [00:49] sarnold, thanks but I want something for desktop. I found a Gnome extension. [00:49] mine connected, Bashing-om [00:50] chalcedny`: settings -> preferences -> network -> network setup -> your address -> "bind to:" should usually be empty, unless you have a somewhat special network configuration. [00:50] also hi to you two! [00:50] chalcedny`: Able to see the internet from his machine ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ' ? [00:51] oh and there's no need to enable identd (settings -> preferences -> network -> identd) [00:51] Bashing-om, he can ping the router fine, traceroute to chat.freenode.org makes it 10 hops and then goes to *** [00:52] tomreyn, :) :) :) [00:59] it sees ping -c3 8.8.8.8 fine, it connected to another irc network. it is still not connecting to chat.freenode.net [01:01] chalcedny`: it could be a resolver, or an ipv4 vs ipv6 problem. does chat.freenode.net resolve properly, what does it resolve to? [01:01] also, why won't libre office start for him? [01:02] chat.freenode.net /dns for me to a lot of different addresses both v6 and v4 [01:03] if you start lowriter --safe-mode from a terminal, are there error messages? [01:03] please test on the affected computer [01:03] i'll take a look [01:03] heh yes [01:05] what should I trust? [01:05] when you run host chat.freenode.net | sort on both computers, you should see the same result. [01:05] chalcedny`: ^ [01:06] MIF: i think you will need to add some context to your question to make it one that can be consdiered an ubuntu support question. [01:06] tomreyn: I was going to, [01:07] When I run systemctl status tunnel (I got it working) It says Memory: 11.1M [01:07] but when I goto webmin and find the same process I see 3533984 nsturtz 11.78 MiB [01:07] with the memory being 11.78MiB not 11.1 [01:08] what should I trust [01:08] and sorry if /md [01:08] should I use ubuntu server or IoT for a network gateway? [01:08] sorry is 1906 MIF │ tomreyn: I was going to, this came out rude [01:08] no worries, MIF. [01:09] MIF: they're the same thing: [01:09] $ echo '11.7 * (1000 * 1000) / (1024 * 1024)' | bc -l [01:09] 11.15798950195312500000 [01:09] what? [01:09] how? [01:09] tomreyn, (it's chalcedony) on hubby's box. It did finally connect, although he didn't do anything. lowriter --safemode returned a prompt but we don't see it running. [01:10] i think it is M MiB translation, Basically MiB = 10242 and MB = 10002 [01:10] 1024² 1000² [01:10] oh ok [01:10] ? [01:10] I thought that M = MiB [01:10] MIF: some folks want to call power-of-two bases measurements with one name, and power-of-ten based measurements with a different name. I never figured out which one is which, in part because I think 'mibibytes' is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard, and in part because I think these people are annoying pedants :) [01:10] marketing M .. blame seagate [01:11] MIF: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte [01:11] yeah, it was easy enuogh when it was just restricted to hard drive people [01:11] but then some software people wanted 'mega' and 'kilo' and so on to line up with SI units. I think. [01:11] now you are just confusing me [01:12] so are they or are they not the same? [01:12] 1.000.000 vs 1.048.576 [01:13] so yes but no? [01:13] and where does the 48.576 come from? [01:13] chull: what was the prompt about? did you try the "host" command, though? [01:14] MIF: the difference between (1024*1024)-(1000*1000) [01:14] chull: when you run host chat.freenode.net | sort on both computers, you should see the same result. [01:14] sarnold: where did you get that? [01:14] sorry, I am kinda tired right now and I had a long day [01:15] MIF: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte describes the history / etc [01:15] ok [01:15] MIF: lets try it from another angle then :) [01:15] tomreyn, chull@vir:~$ lowriter --safe mode [01:15] chull@vir:~$ [01:15] but it's not running [01:15] so no textual prompt [01:15] and no graphical prompt either [01:16] no [01:16] MIF: if we ask a group of people how far away two cities are, one one person replies "62 miles" and another person replies "100 kilometers", we'd say they both gave us the same answer, even though they used different units, right? [01:16] chull: "lowriter --safe mode" (which you wrote above) is not the same as "lowriter --safe-mode" (which i wrote) [01:16] yes [01:16] ahhh [01:16] MIF: this is the same thing as using miles vs kilometers -- one tool reports MB, the other tool reports MiB [01:17] chull: i.e. you may have missed the extra hyphon [01:17] ok [01:17] thank you [01:17] now can I change the systemctl output [01:18] to match [01:20] tomreyn, ah it started (after a freezing everything pause) [01:20] with the hyphen [01:22] MIF: most folks are content knowing they're within ten percent of each other at the terabyte range, and twelve percent at petabyte range [01:23] ok [01:23] so just ignore it [01:23] now that he's connected to freenode, /dns chat.freenode.net and host chat.freenode.net | sort [01:23] bring up the same list. [01:23] MIF: normally you're more interested in eg "this thing requires ten-ish megabytes" vs "this thing requires ten-ish gigabytes of ram" etc [01:23] ok [01:23] thank you for your help, I know that I sometimes are not easy to work with [01:24] MIF: obviously if you're working with something like terabytes or petabytes of drive space, you'll want to do math to figure out how many drives to buy, but most of the time they're clsoe enough. it's like tons, tonnes, long tons, etc. most of the time they're close enough that they're all just tons, until you actually *care* :) [01:24] MIF, you provided an interesting diversion :) [01:24] thanks [01:24] I think [01:24] thanks again sarnold [01:25] chull: i do not know what "/dns chat.freenode.net" does. is this an irc client command? [01:26] MIF: sure thing :) [01:26] tomreyn, yes. works in hexchat and xchat.. i thought every client *shrug* [01:26] chull: about the system freezing, see its systemd journal: journalctl -f [01:26] ok will try looking there [01:28] chull: personally, i would have compared the outputs of the very same commands, run in a terminal, rather than that of two different commands. but i assume if the output is identical then you're fine in terms of the resolver. [01:30] i have a hunch that you previously reported that hubby's system freezes temporarily, and we looked into this before. i do not remember what exactly was attempted or what the outcome was, though. if you have recordings of this, please reproduce them. === bildramer1 is now known as bildramer [01:33] tomreyn, https://pastebin.com/k4rFWEMP [01:33] chull@vir:~$ journalctl -f [01:34] tomreyn, we got him another hard drive and ubuntu 20.04 DVD. It was ok for a few days while he loaded things and now it locks up again. [01:43] chull: from what i can tell there is no unexpected message on this output. maybe you can post a full log from a clean boot. journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:44] tomreyn, i don't have a bash prompt to run that command on windows. [01:45] chalcedny`: i don't understand how windows is involved there? [01:45] my two computers are running windows 7 and 10. [01:46] umm, but this channel is about ubuntu, and you reported problems with ubuntu? [01:46] is ubuntu running under virtualization on those windows versions on both systems? [01:46] tomreyn, yes. however when he couldn't connect to chat.freenode.net i tried to connect another client and compared. [01:47] he is running ubuntu.20.04 and nothing else [01:48] okay, so hubby is running ubntu 20.04 on bare metal, as the main OS, and then there are also two computers around which run windows. [01:48] right [01:49] and you're accessing hubby's computer how? just by using his (or having him use his) keyboard and mouse, or also through the netwpork from the windows system somehow? [01:50] tomreyn, when i get lazy (have something going on here) i can ssh to his via putty. however for graphical stuff, i walk over there. [01:51] you know he can't speak and understand speech, right? hubby had a stroke in 1999. he does things by pasting, not typing words. [01:51] chalcedny`: so i assume you have two options: (1) run gnome-terminal on hubby's computer, using the keyboard and mouse, then typing journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [01:54] chalcedny: and (2) you can use putty to connect to it and then run the same command. it should return a short URL you can then report here. [01:55] chalcedny: i did remember that hubby was a bit different from many of us, didn't remember the details, though (sorry). [01:55] awesome does he need to reboot first? his opens all his stuff when he restarts, pretty much where he left off. [01:56] not really, no. [01:56] awesome doing it [01:57] ~$ journalctl -b |nc termbin.com 9999 [01:57] https://termbin.com/3hel [01:58] tomreyn, ^ [01:58] ok, looking [01:58] thanks :) [01:59] BIOS is version F30 03/21/2019, latest is version F60c 2‎020/10/29, according to https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-dl-bios [01:59] chalcedny`: ^ [02:01] we could try updating that [02:01] this includes fixes such as "Improve USB (device) compatibility", "Improve M.2 SSD compatibility", "Enhance CPU compatibility", and at least one security vulnerability. [02:01] nice [02:02] i'll keep reading the log, but the bios update is probably a good idea generally, it's old. [02:04] chalcedny`: the log cuts off earlier than i expected, can you get me another of just the kernel log? journalctl -k | nc termbin.com 9999 [02:06] ok [02:06] it's downloading the bios update [02:10] tomreyn, ~$ journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [02:10] https://termbin.com/mzkw [02:10] chalcedny`: -b is not -k ;-) [02:15] tomreyn, details! I'll do it again from my computer in a moment. He's got a bios thing downloaded, opened in an archive. What should he do? [02:19] tomreyn, :~$ journalctl -k | nc termbin.com 9999 [02:19] https://termbin.com/ua0xr [02:19] chull: bios upgrade processes are vendor, sometimes mainboard specific. i can't tell for sure what needs to be done. [02:20] sometimes fwupdmgr update does the trick === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [02:30] chalcedny`: so this bios update is packaged with a DOS executable firmware flashing utility. so you could create a FreeDOS bootable disk and store those files in the archive on it, then boot into this. if you're not into DOS, this is not easy to get right, though. [02:32] chalcedny`: i assume another option is to store the *.60c file on the EFI system partition or a FAT32 formatted first partition on a USB stick, then keep that connected and reboot to 'bios', then look for the firmware update from usb option there, and select this file. [02:32] if the latter is supported (many UEFI systems support this) then it will be the easier approach. [02:42] tomreyn, hubby has to go. I'll save this whole conversation for him, will you be around about this time tomorrow or something? [02:43] chalcedny` / chull: the mainboard manual at https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B450M-DS3H-rev-10/support#support-manual states that this mainboard supports "q-flash" (which is the vendors' product name for "you can upgrade the mainboard firmware from within its setup screens". the manual for q-flash is at https://www.gigabyte.com/FileUpload/Global/WebPage/20/images/utiltiy_qflash_uefi.pdf [02:44] chull: probably not until the weekend, and maybe not around this time then (but some hours earlier) [02:44] terrific thank you so much for your great help, as always, tomreyn :) [02:44] good luck! [02:44] thanks i'll keep an eye for you :) [02:44] have a good one [02:45] you, too === zbenjamin is now known as Guest97615 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [03:04] whats the difference between `nm-connection-editor` and `network-manager`? === chalcedny` is now known as chalcedony [03:08] conr: discussions and polls into #ubuntu-discuss please [03:08] lotuspsychje: but i need help. [03:09] conr: then its better you ask your real issue into the channel, so volunteers can think along with you [03:11] i checked `automatically connect to vpn` with npm-connection-editor but when i restart i get network can not be activated error message. but it works fine if i just toggle the switch in network manager window. any ideas? [03:16] what error message do you get? [03:18] sarnold: `Connection failed Activation of network connection failed` [03:18] then the network icon goes away [03:18] gdm3 login screen [03:18] conr: oh bugger :/ there's not a whole lot of detail there :( [03:19] would it log it to /etc/syslog? [03:19] conr: no, /etc/ is for configuration, not logging [03:19] also if i click the power icon the window shows "Wired Off" and "VPN Off" greyed out [03:20] conr: it might log elsewhere in /var/log, it might log to the journal [03:21] sarnold: oops i mean `/var/log/syslog` === guiverc2 is now known as testing [03:23] sarnold: ok after i login with my ubuntu user, i get another error saying `A password is required to connect to ""` but i've check and updated that password multiple times [03:24] conr: 'updated', is that connection set for personal use or for system use? [03:25] conr: .. if you've just updated the password in your own user account, and it's not set for system use, it can't be set to autoconnect before you log in [03:25] sarnold: idk how can i tell? [03:25] conr: try keeping a; journalctl -f open while you test your issue, and put al the output in a pastebin, so volunteers can see whats it all about please [03:26] lotuspsychje: well its tough because it happens before logging in [03:26] conr: i think that's the "all users may connect to this network" checkbox in the general tab of the connection editor [03:28] sarnold: its checked [03:30] conr: do you see the connection in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ ? [03:30] conr: does namei -l to the your file look sane? [03:30] conr: does that file have the password? [03:33] sarnold: no password in the .nmconnection file [03:34] also `namei -l .` returns `f: .` [03:36] conr: it should look ore like this: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dGxzZKtgRs/ [03:38] sarnold: yeah it matches that [03:38] can i add a password value to the file? [03:39] conr: the vpn I've got configured uses keys, not passwords, so I'm not 100% sure. I expect you can, yes [03:40] sarnold: well yes conf keys but also its user/pass type for this vpn service. [03:53] hello everyone [03:54] I am trying to install the linux os [03:54] on virtualbox [03:54] but I get an error like: unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu [03:55] what should I do now? [03:55] please help [03:55] indian_yogi: which ubuntu version are you trying to install there, what's the .ico image file you downloaded called? [03:55] I have downloaded the 32bit os iso image and my system is a 64bit Intel one [03:55] * .iso [03:56] ubuntu 16.04 LTS or 18.04 LTS? [03:56] Hello [03:56] ubuntu 18.04 [03:56] indian_yogi: desktop or server? [03:56] my computer is an old one like it has core 2 quad cpu and only 4gb ram [03:57] desktop pc [03:57] ok, but i mean the name of the iso file you downloaded [03:57] Dou shi zhongguo ren? [03:57] 4 gb ram and core 2 quad should actually be 64-bit capabler [03:58] 这么简单的英文，我都看懂了 [03:58] !jp | modory [03:58] modory: 日本語の場合は /join #ubuntu-jp または /join #kubuntu-jp を入力して下さい。 [03:58] ？ [03:59] !en [03:59] The main Ubuntu IRC channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [03:59] !cn | ubottu [03:59] modory: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [03:59] yes my system is 64bit vt-x supported cpu [04:00] i chose the 32bit iso because i have allocated only 1 gb ram and 1 core cpu to the vm [04:01] but my 64bit cpu should should be able to run 32 bit os kernel isn't it? [04:01] but yes, I chose xfce one [04:01] if vt-x is enabled, i would think so. [04:03] xubuntu 18.04 has another ~5 months of support, and there won't be a newer 32-bit release [04:04] so what should I do now? [04:04] what's the filename of the iso you downloaded? [04:06] This is really a Vritualbox support question (/join #vbox). Stop the vm, open its settings, in system -> processor -> extended features, tick "Enable PAE/NX" [04:06] oh ok [04:07] sarnold: thanks for you help, found that you can add your pass to the conf file and it works! because keychain isn't accessible until you login first [04:07] conr: excellent! :D [04:07] conr: thanks for reporting back :D [04:08] thanks [04:08] it worked fine now [04:08] conr: good timing, too, I'm just off to make dinner. have a good location-appropriate time of day :) [04:08] a small setting problem [04:08] tomreyn: amazing crystal ball you've got there :) [04:08] :) [04:09] sarnold: have a great meal. [04:09] :D [04:11] when I type inside the live os and open terminal and type arch it says i686 [04:11] so it worked now but what is this PAE/NX? [04:33] I'm booting a drive that was initially used on a qemu/kvm install (using the full disk) on a machine with an AMD GPU. At first, the text is fine, when I get to the point where it asks for my pw to decrypt the drive, all the text is very weird (like letters crushed together). I tried installing xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu and xorg-video-abi-32 or something like that, but no luck and now xorg freezes [04:37] ldiamond: which ubuntu version is this? fully up to date? [04:37] !recovery | ldiamond [04:37] ldiamond: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [04:37] 18.04, somewhat up-to-date I'd guess, but it's my work PC so not fully. [04:38] I can boot it, I just fixed the freezing by uninstalling the stuff I installed and installing ubuntu-desktop [04:38] But the letters are still all crushed together [04:39] The "Software Updates" thing says no additional drivers available [04:39] look for a bios update which provides an AGESA update [04:39] for the GPU? [04:39] for the mainboard [04:40] AGESA is for the CPU [04:40] ldiamond, what's your issue? [04:40] This machine has an Archlinux install on it too which works just fine [04:40] yes, the update would be provided by the mainboard manufactorur [04:40] hmmm [04:40] DragonRiver: pixelated image and almost unreadable text [04:41] I'm just looking for proper AMDGPU drivers [04:41] ldiamond, doesn "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" yield anything? [04:41] amdgpu drivers are open source, come preinstalledm no need for "ubuntu-drivers" [04:41] You need to: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa [04:41] $ sudo apt update [04:42] DragonRiver: no driver from that command. [04:42] No, nvidia drivers aren't open source, they aren't even in the default repos. [04:42] I'm on AMDGPU [04:42] ldiamond, add the graphics-driver repo, do apt update, then redo. [04:42] DragonRiver: you're the first person to mention nvidia on this conversation. [04:42] Oh. [04:43] I thought he said he was on nvidia. [04:43] a ppa is required for drivers? [04:43] ldiamond: find out which driver is archlinux using and use the same in ubuntu [04:43] No, but for nvidia ones yes. [04:43] not even for nvidia [04:43] DragonRiver: not for your hardware, i assume, though you didn'T tell us exactly which one it is [04:44] ldiamond: ^ [04:44] ldiamond: you can also try booting with !dis_ucode_ldr [04:45] ldiamond: is this a text based prompt you're seeing the bad font on or a graphical one? [04:46] Alright, seems like that stupid DVI to HDMI cable is bad. [04:46] works fine on another (but too short) cable [04:46] by default, ubuntu 18.04 LTS would have a graphical LUKS passphrase prompt, but it's early in the boot sequence, so if you're UEFI booting, this mey be before video passover from EFIFB to the OS's [04:46] oh, ok [04:46] So his whole problem was a cheap cable. Welcome to the 21st century. [04:46] lol [04:48] not cheap, but bad. [04:49] it says "prime" on it. [04:49] I need to stock up on more DP cables. === devilnull is now known as conjo [05:46] twobob === conjo is now known as twobob [05:48] hi all i would like some general advice on a sensible way to partition my drive for an ubuntu installation got 120 to spare ssd and would like to install 4 os ubuntu manjaro arch gentoo [05:48] twobob: manjaro and arch are the same OS [05:48] yeah but nah [05:48] I just saved you 30 GB [05:49] lols [05:49] heh [05:49] twobob: anything else going to be on this disk? [05:49] no and i will save all downloads elsewhere eg on a hdd [05:49] and other large stuff [05:49] so 120GB is the entire disk and all will go to four distros [05:49] yeah [05:49] okay so pick one distro to manage the booting of all the others [05:49] I'd say the one you're most familiar with [05:49] install that distro last [05:50] i am a bit unsure on how to handle my home [05:50] also, using the live OS for that distro, use that to do the initial partitioning [05:50] you want a shared home? [05:51] with debian os's if that is a do'able thing [05:51] eg share home of ubuntu with perhaps raspery pi/raspian or say mint [05:51] Instead of quadruple-booting, why don't you pick one OS as the host OS and virtualize the others? [05:52] twobob: well Ubuntu is Debian, but sure you can use Debian [05:52] DArqueBishop: heheh [05:52] this pc is shit and likely has issues whether ram or age or something in anycase it cant handle the overhead in ram with out shitting its pants [05:53] and freezing [05:53] eg too many vm going at once [05:54] question with the sharing of home folder can it be shared with any os linux i mean, regardless of whether its like with like (arch and manjaro or debian and mint [05:55] theoretically, although you're bound to run into some small issues [05:55] could i make one home folder for five different distro? eg manjaro ubuntu debian gentoo raspian and one more random for gud luck [05:55] matsaman, such as [05:55] any example will do [05:55] you would also miss out on some of the unique experiences of each distro [05:56] since they'll all come with different defaults and skeletons that affect ~/ [05:56] is that because of hidden files that control i dunno config [05:56] if you merely want to share data, you could still have a shared, like, ~/Shared directory [05:56] i got u [05:56] yeah hidden/dot files, dirs, etc. [05:59] mkay so...create separate home folders,only install the "os" files on the ssd, install the one i favour last (to avoid grub drammas and use that for partitioning "live") [05:59] shit mistake hitting enter [05:59] yeah that all makes sense [06:00] dont worry was just trying to summarise in me head and then ask ya if on track [06:00] 30GB (120/4) is plenty for each of those distros, though [06:00] so just the one SSD should be fine [06:00] nice matsaman ty [06:00] from the live CD I would just make four equivalently sized partitions [06:00] like [06:00] got you [06:01] well [06:01] you can share swap, too [06:01] but it will complicate each install process [06:01] how much RAM do you have? [06:01] 16G [06:02] yeah I'd share the swap, since you've only got the 120 [06:02] just a quick one swap file and partition are different yes? and the later is slower [06:02] yeah they're different [06:03] I think they can be the same speed at this point [06:03] true lols [06:03] and I think the former would've been slower, back in the day [06:03] I suppose [06:03] if you create a share for each home dir somewhere, you could put a swap file in there [06:03] but I think I'd just do a swap partition [06:04] either way you'll want to tell the installer to not make swap for you [06:04] or at least tell it to use a file so you can easily undo it [06:04] at least easier than deleting an extra swap partition and resizing [06:05] sweet cheer [06:05] s [06:05] so you could do: parted -a optimal -s /dev/sda mklabel msdos; parted -a optimal -s /dev/sda mkpart primary ext4 0% 16% [06:06] oh whoops [06:07] I mean 0% 13% [06:07] thanks dude...=) the only thing i dont get about that is the meaning of 0% 16% can you learn me some please [06:07] =) [06:08] or maybe like [06:09] 0% 12%, then 12% 34%, 34% 56%, 56% 78%, 78% 100% [06:09] that'll give you about 26G for each distro, and 12G for swap [06:09] nice cheers [06:09] now i get it [06:10] if you don't plan on using hibernate/suspend at all, you could cut that swap way down [06:10] i do not [06:10] oh okay [06:10] hah [06:10] down by howmuch [06:10] by tons, 16GB is plenty of RAM [06:10] sweet [06:10] I would just do a tiny swap file for each distro, if the installers allow it [06:10] and just even 25%'s for parted [06:11] okay [06:11] nice [06:11] mkpart primary ext4 0% 25%, then 25% 50%, etc. [06:11] it won't even matter if they make small redundant swap partitions, although you could obviously squeeze more space by sharing them [06:12] i hear ya and ty for all the help [06:13] excuse me i have to go for a bit...bk soon === jelly-home is now known as jelly [06:52] i'm maintaining some ubuntu linux workstations with automatic updates (and also a mirror of ubuntu): now i got Packages not installed from apt repositories (3): linux-libc-dev:amd64 (4.15.0-126.129) linux-modules-4.15.0-126-generic (4.15.0-126.129) linux-modules-extra-4.15.0-126-generic (4.15.0-126.129) [06:53] (in the active monitoring), however i can /focal install the libc-dev (the kernel is there as well 4.15.0-126, however no modules for that kernel of focal. [06:53] i'm used to stuff being pulled from mirrors/upstream/ubuntu/canonical, but with that, now will they fix the kernel? the modules? [06:54] and what for gods sake is the reason for removing packages once updated/distributed by mirrors. that's a major PITA [06:54]