=== PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [00:14] !wsl [00:14] Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide [00:17] ddelony: ? [00:19] ? [00:19] anyone remember me coming in to ask how to fix chromium closing after click to open? [00:20] nope [00:20] why? [00:20] i thought someone might be interested how it was fixed [00:20] guess not, sorry for the bother [00:23] Greenfrog, feel free to post this, or better, on askubuntu [00:23] !paste [00:23] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [00:24] i'm not asking its fixed [00:24] but i guess this is not the norm here [00:25] never mind then later === zorael is now known as zorael^ [00:27] I was sudoer, suddenly got this: user1 is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. < What can be the reason? I worl alone [00:28] my first guess is that you, as user1, tried to sudo but weren't in sudoers === zorael^ is now known as zorael [00:33] Intelo: the last time I saw someone get this message by surprise, they had used usermod(8) directly to add their user to a new group rather than adduser(8), and had managed to remove their group membership that allowed them to use sudo [00:34] Intelo: though it's possible you're logged in to another machine :) [00:34] When you don't add the -a for append, it wipes out your membership in all other groups except the one you just added it to [00:46] Sold my MacBook for financial reasons, got me a cheapo laptop, and I am pleased with how Ubuntu is running on the machine. Any devs that may be present, top job. [00:48] aw yeh [00:50] AdorableGNU: nice to see that [00:52] matsaman: so I've ditched the AppleGNU name. This is my original anyway. haha [00:59] AdorableGNU: it's a lot of money to spend for a particular visual appearance [01:00] and I include apple M1 in that; there will be half-price non-apple hardware with the same performance on the market [01:10] Does anyone know how to `startx` from ssh such that it uses TTY1 and displays on the monitor? [01:10] i.e. I want to start X and not have to plug a keyboard on it. [01:10] ldiamond: DISPLAY=:0 [01:10] oh sorry [01:10] ldiamond: no that's what you want [01:11] ldiamond: I mean, startx should just work, IIRC [01:11] but if you wanted to run something from commandline in the running X, DISPLAY=:0 [01:11] yea that "sort of" works. [01:11] It doesn't error out, but it doesn't display anything on the screen [01:11] I think you also need to export the display [01:12] it starts an x server, but I still only see the TTY1 prompt on the monitor [01:12] I didnt try exporting [01:12] if you export you don't have to prepend to every command [01:12] and I mean [01:12] there's the issue of backgrounding [01:12] you might want, like, DISPLAY=:0 nohup foo & [01:12] ldiamond: you may need to add chvt(1) to switch to the right virtual terminal [01:13] parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (Permission denied) [01:14] might require root [01:14] don't think you should need it, though [01:14] chvt, that is [01:14] when you start X it should take care of that [01:15] `chvt 1` -> Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console [01:16] I tried with `sudo`, but startx still didn't work [01:20] startx isn't usually run as root, IIRC [01:21] been a while since I've not used a DM [01:26] and if you're logged in via ssh, the terminal in question isn't a vt, so the 'usual' vt switching may not work quite right either [01:26] it might be easier to just configure the system to bring up X at boot === guiverc is now known as guiverc_focal [02:25] trying to migrate a wordpress site from one VPS to another (ubuntu 20.04) and set up the new apache install. what would cause an apachectl reload to fail, but configtest gives 'Syntax OK' and apachectl restart updates the changes? the error log doesnt appear to have anything relevant (#httpd seems dead) [02:30] Nelluk, you could try #ubuntu-server [02:30] thanks === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [03:04] waveform: you about my man? [03:35] Oh well, I wanted to properly `startx` remotely, turns out my supermicro mb has a web based interface where I can type, that'll do it. [03:35] not ideal but w/e for now [03:36] lol [03:36] nice though :) === gabkdlly_ is now known as gabkdlly [07:28] greetings, please. can someone tell me an "easy" way to upgrade from 19.10 to 20.04? My machine reached end of life during the lockdown. [07:30] !eol | isomari [07:30] isomari: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [07:54] morning everyone [08:06] If I have encrypted OS partition, will doing this be ok and will not damage anything? I think no because the encrypted partition is not ext4. But its some encrypted formate. Tune2fs -c 5 -i 10 /dev/sda [08:12] heyall! been a LONG time since I've messed with any intel devices and i definitely remember there being intel desktop ISOs for installation.... those don't seem to exist anymore.... is the installer unified now? [08:21] Good morning all [08:34] (Sterist) heyall! been a LONG time since I've messed with any intel devices and i definitely remember there being intel desktop ISOs for installation.... those don't seem to exist anymore.... is the installer unified now? [08:40] Sterist: do you mean intel graphics installer or? [08:42] If I have encrypted OS partition, will doing this be ok and will not damage anything? I think no because the encrypted partition is not ext4. But its some encrypted formate. Tune2fs -c 5 -i 10 /dev/sda [08:43] the OS installer image [09:52] Hello, can I add my username to /etc/sudoers in ubuntu 18? [09:53] like amos ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL [09:53] does it work? It seems no here. Do I need to configure other stuff? like PAM? [09:55] Hey all! Is there anyone here that could help me understand some awk issued? I have a somewhat complicated line that works fine locally, but when run on a server ( where I can only push to and trigger build with gitlab ) i get "awk: line 1: syntax error at or near ," which is not super helpful xD If someone wanna look at it, how do you prefer I show the command? Pastebin maybe? [09:57] amosbird: it should work [09:57] amosbird: what does 'sudo -l' give you? [10:03] EriC^^: http://oracle.wentropy.com/6b1cb2d7de8ca0f5 [10:03] amosbird: you're logged in as root it seems [10:04] hmm, veryok [10:06] how can I save current iptables rule on ubuntu 18? [10:06] save and reload it on next boto [10:06] boot [10:16] amosbird: try installing the iptables-persistent package [10:48] I am having problem deleting directory in Ubuntu-mate [10:48] what is threadpool, how does it impact the QPS? [10:49] when I issue a ls -l I get the following output "drwxrwxrwx 0 username username 512 Dec 10 23:45 mydirectory" === akem__ is now known as SubZero === SubZero is now known as Subzyro [10:57] I have 20.04. Wifi performance deteriorates when I close the lid of the laptop. This happens only in Ubuntu and not in the dual boot Windows 10. What are the things I can do? Thanks. [11:09] spicywall: have you disabled wifi power management? [11:09] jeremy31 yes, I have. That was the first fix I did. [11:10] spicywall: changed the network manager conf file? [11:11] What change in the network manager file? [11:13] This command keeps Network Manager from enabling power management> sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf [11:16] hello need help with a directory that I am have problems deleting on linux. I issue the the command "rm -rf mydirectory" get no error but directory still there [11:21] Guys, is there a way to determine which core and thread are a "pair"? I need this in order to set taskset cpuset properly. The processor is TR 3960x with 8 CCDs each with 3 cores/threads. lscpu reports: On-line CPU(s) list: 0-47; Thread(s) per core: 2; Core(s) per socket: 24; Socket(s): 1; NUMA node(s): 1 [11:35] Can anyone tell me why whoopsie keeps filling the syslog with lines like these, https://pastebin.com/0eZ76N9e and hogs the processor? The log seems to say that whoopsie skips something(reporting?), but it keeps retrying immediately afterwards.. [11:37] Slartibart, well, something seems to dies/exit-nonzero/crash in a loop on your system [11:37] *die [11:38] ogra: Yes, exactly! But why? And what? And how to find out what the problem is? [11:38] heh, good question ... [11:39] what you see is only the processing of the existing reports it seems [11:40] so it might not actually die *right now* anymore [11:41] Slartibart, you should have /var/log/apport.log ... that might have some details [11:42] ogra: How do you mean? The CPU usage seems to have a definitive opinion on the matter, that it's running(and keeps dying) [11:43] Right, checking apport.log right away, good idea :) [11:43] nah, the cpu usage just tells you whoppsie tries to analyze a report (core file) [11:43] that doesnt mean that report is current [11:45] question; why does "apt install chromium-browser" give version 85 via snap but "sudo snap install chromium" gives version 87?! [11:47] Deano59, i doubt it does ... teh deb just calls "snap install chromium" so you will get 87 either way ... [11:48] ogra: doubt it? I've seen it happen several times, try it yourself. "doubt" it... haha. [11:48] ogra: Ah, ok, I misunderstood you then. apport.log is all error lines :-p. But only 5 of them.. sigh.. SessionManager doesn't seem related to whoopsie either. [11:51] Deano59, there is no 85 in the snap store anymore ... so you will definitely have 87 installed after you install the deb [11:51] Slartibart, sounds like gnome-shell ... do you have a crashing/misbehaving extension (or had one that filled whoopsies cache with reports) [11:53] So .... what am I supposed to put in sources.list for my 19.04 install, whatever I seem to put results in erros fetching packages .... [11:53] ogra: can you not, please. if you try it yourself, you'll see. [11:53] "deb [trusted=yes] http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ eoan main restricted" is what I'm trying now but to no avail ... [11:54] tnt: EOL. [11:54] Deano59, i cant because i have never installed the deb ... but this is how snaps work ... snap install will only get you whats available [11:54] Deano59: I know and ? [11:54] Packages still exist .. [11:55] then ogra you can't help, simple. I asked a simple question *why* the versions are different, I honestly don't care *what* you say because I've seen it happen several times. [11:55] Deano59, check "snap info chromium" ... there is an "Installed:" line [11:55] ogra: /care - "apt install chromium-browser" has a different version than "snap install chromium" simples...... [11:56] Deano59, the versions differ because the deb doesnt get updated every time the snap does ... its a mistake that the deb has a chromium version string in the first place [11:56] I thought you said "doubt it" ? :D [11:56] but also not a major one, since it is after all just cosmetic [11:56] ... [11:56] i said i doubt you ghet an old version 🙂 [11:57] because with snaps you cant really [11:57] IT IS v85 vs snap install is V87 [11:57] sigh. [11:57] Deano59: probably because snaps get newer version where apt doesn't [11:57] whatever the debs version is doesnt matter [11:57] ogra: bye. [11:57] thanks Maik :) [11:57] yw [11:58] thats what i said (a few times), thanks Maik [11:58] lol [11:58] no ogra you said you "doubt" it happened when it HAPPENED several times. [11:59] ogra: if you can't help, don't know what you're on about... be quiet and make us all happy! [11:59] Deano59, ok, let me rephrase "i doubt you got an old chromium when using the deb because it will just call snap install and there is no 85 in the snap store, so you will get the latest chromium whatever the deb has for a version" [11:59] sigh, you're wrong. [12:00] note that i have just discussed that with our chromium maintainer, he will perhaps simply change the deb versuion to something like 1-ubuntu1 [12:00] ... [12:00] Deano59: he basically told the same: "the versions differ because the deb doesnt get updated every time the snap does ..." [12:00] :) [12:00] we do that for other transitional deb->snap packages too [12:01] Deano59, feelk free to drop by in #snappy ... [12:01] Maik: but he called me a liar and said "doubt it" lol [12:01] geez [12:01] i didnt call you a liar [12:01] will read the back log when my brain has awoken [12:01] "ogra | Deano59, i doubt it does ... teh deb just calls "snap install chromium" so you will get 87 either way ..." [12:01] i tried to explain to you that the deb version doesnt matter here 🙂 [12:01] yea [12:01] ^ [12:01] Deano59: I'm following what's on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades but I can't install what I need for any kind of upgrade if I can't do apt-get update witout errorr. .. [12:02] thats exactly what i said ... where am i calling you a liar [12:02] "i doubt it does ..." [12:02] you are getting the chromium 87 package no matter what the deb version is [12:02] sigh, go away. [12:02] yes, i doubt the deb installs 85 [12:03] again, TRY it before saying useless crap. [12:03] because that is not how we designed the snap store [12:03] ^ [12:03] I'll show you... [12:04] please see https://snapcraft.io/chromium ... the deb simply calls "snap install chromium" there is no magic in it ... by default it installs from the "latest/stable" cheannel [12:05] there is no 85 anywhere in the snap store anymore, the only version you can get is 87 from stable, 88 from beta or 89 from edge [12:05] ogra: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nPPjjkNFMk/ [12:05] ==> Installing the chromium snap [12:05] chromium 87.0.4280.88 from Canonical✓ installed [12:06] "Unpacking chromium-browser (1:85.0.4183.83-0ubuntu2) ..." [12:06] yes, that just unpacks the script that calls snap install [12:07] Deano59: Did you check the version inside chromium after installing it and running it? [12:07] and as i said before, it is unfortunate that the deb uses a chromium version at all ... but irrelevant for what you get actually installed [12:08] the deb should just use "1-ubuntu1" or whatever ... so people do not get confused ... [12:09] 'Morning all [12:09] (instead of "$chromium_version-0ubuntu1") [12:09] after all it is purely cosmetic though [12:09] I'm not awake, leave me alone. :D [12:10] * ogra hugh_marera Deano59 [12:10] GAH! [12:10] * ogra hugs Deano59 [12:10] lol [12:10] (i'm obviously not awake either) [12:11] I need more coffee === Subzyro is now known as akem === vlm_ is now known as vlm [12:31] Well at least I'm not alone https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2455026&p=14006248#post14006248 suggesting someone screwed up somewhere ... [12:40] tnt: why even bother with a unsupported, not updated, EOL version? [12:40] i never got it why people do this [12:44] Maik: (1) to upgrade I actually need to apt-get (2) There is not enough free space on the root drive for an upgrade, most likely it would brick the system (3) There are tons of custom compiled apps, all of them would need rebuilding for upgrade and I don't have time to deal with that right now. I don't need any new version of any software on that machine, I just need it to boot. [12:46] you should have stuck with a LTS imo [12:47] Well, I would have expect 19.04 the LTS that existed when I installed it, didn't boot on Ryzen 7 / Zen 2 ... [12:49] 19.04 is not a LTS, 18.04 and 20.04 are [12:49] Err, sorry typo. [12:49] But anyway, 19.10 was the only one to boot on that CPU. [12:49] oh, ok. Can happen. :) [12:50] that sounds like a faulty statement a non lts version alone runs on a system [12:50] then 20.04 LTS should work too. I'd backup everything you have, whenever you have the time and clean install 20.04. [12:52] Maik: That's the plan, but I don't have time to do that right now. I need that machine up. It also hw upgrade coming, all will be done at once to minimize down time, but ... hw isn't available yet so ... [12:53] But at this very moment, it looks like somewthing went wrong when ubuntu transitioned 19.10 from archive to old-release and some files that should be there aren't there .. [12:53] .and that's my immediate issue. [12:58] did tls 1.2 disappear from nginx after last openssl update? [12:58] two days ago [12:58] or is it just me [13:05] I built some virtual machine images on Ubuntu 18.04 and I tried copying the images to an Ubuntu 16.04 host. The XML configuration didn't work, so I added the images via virtmanager GUI. I'm using a bridge (br0) for the networking, but when I try to connect to the VM remotely, I get "no route to host." Anyone have any ideas? [13:06] The networking for a virtual machine that was built on the Ubuntu 16.04 host still works. [13:07] To complicate matters, I'm running virtmanager remotely on an Ubuntu 20.04 laptop. === dan is now known as Guest1267 === Guest1267 is now known as dan01 [13:19] * Dyrcona suspects it has something to do with libvirt networking and/or arp. [14:04] i got an ubuntu account and got livepatching working,how is it with esm,can i have it for free on 18.04 one server? [14:06] vlm: https://ubuntu.com/security/esm [14:07] leftyfb, thanks i already read it though,it only lists esm for ubuntu 14.04 when i log in so i guess its not for 18.04 then? [14:09] vlm: 14.04 is the only release under ESM. The rest are still under the normal LTS support. [14:09] leftyfb, oh i see,so i might get esm on 18.04 when its end of 5 years? [14:09] Could someone please guide if this is an irrecoverable error and if i should reinstall the OS from scratch? [14:09] http://prntscr.com/w0klyn [14:09] vlm: correct [14:10] thats good news! [14:10] Guddu: try running an fsck on the filesystem booted to a live cd/usb. If that doesn't fix it, then it's possible you have bad storage hardware that should be replaced. [14:11] Thanks leftyfb [14:16] Maik: is the snap bug in 20.04.1? [14:21] hey i just want to verify that I cannot update an Ubuntu Live USB to persistent while it's running. Thanks. [14:21] I already asked at ##linux and was told no, but I figured I'd try to get a second opinion [14:21] Muimi: good question [14:22] Muimi: I don't think you can, unless there's a partition already created [14:22] Muimi: there is absolutely nothing in the world stopping you putting in a second USB stick and setting that up as overlayfs to persist onto though [14:23] Muimi: the important question then becomes, how big is your beard? ;-) [14:23] i have another usb somewhere... [14:23] yeah, seems like a lot of work for just a few changes [14:24] maybe after some rest. :P I'll figure it out and let you know [14:39] This problem keeps happening if I let my PC unattended long enough for the monitor to turn off: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5bW5gXgZBJ/ Afterwards the monitor won't wake up and an rsync job I had left running seems to have hung. However, I still have ssh access. What's going on? Definitely didn't run out of ram. [14:52] So, I fixed my virtual machine network issues from 2 hours ago: The interface name changed inside the VMs, so netplan wasn't working. [15:11] Building a new PC. Radeon RX 5700, or GeForce RTX 2060? [15:18] Whats the difference between AMDGPU, Radeon and (new) MESA drivers in the context of RX6000 series GPUs ? Should it work out of the box? [15:18] g3poandlsl: I have 2080Ti and just bought RX6800 f*ck nvidia [15:20] JayDoubleu, this will be the first time I've ever used and AMD card on Linux. I've heard of compatibility issues many years back. Is this still an issue? [15:20] g3poandlsl: well I actually was researching that very recently before purchase. Aparently the new AMD GPUs work like a dream on linux [15:21] i remember the fglrx pain back in the days which drove me to nvidia but seems like now its a good time to go back to amd/ati [15:21] beside drivers, RX5700 seems to be just slightly better https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/amd-radeon-rx-5700-vs-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060/intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz-vs-intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/ [15:22] nice. I'm not a big fan of the NVidia proprietary driver lacking KMS [15:22] This article actually made me decide: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rx6800-more-performance&num=1 [15:23] JayDoubleu, thanks for the info [15:24] Can i install a C compiler gcc on ubuntu core? [15:24] Gudddu: of course you can. ubuntu core is just slimmed down [15:25] JayDoubleu, Thanks. So Ubuntu Core does not use apt-get is the error that i get. [15:26] Gudddu: ahh I see, got it confused with ubuntu server [15:29] Gudddu: perhaps worth looking at this : https://github.com/snapcore/classic-snap [15:30] JayDoubleu, Sweet. Trying it out now. [16:04] hi, i'm installing hplip 3.20.11 in Ubuntu 20.04 fully updated. the install is asking, "would you like to have this installer install the hplip specific policy/profile yes no or quit? there is no info on google search or the install notes, what is this? [16:06] HP printer driver [16:06] policy/profile is hp printer driver? [16:07] well, no but hplip is [16:07] right, it comes to the question i asked what is the specific policy/profile? [16:07] do i need it or not? [16:08] if you already have hplip settings in a previous OS then it will ask that if you want that profile [16:08] i can find NO information about what this is [16:09] ok got it [16:10] thank you [16:10] right [16:13] y [16:20] The policy/profile in the HPLIP installer refers to SELinux/Apparmor policy/profile. [16:20] :q [16:39] I read that a regression that makes my system unusable should be fixed by upgrading my gpu driver from nvidia 450 packaged with ubuntu to nvidia 455+ from their website. Anything I should know/do before removing the apt-installed version and trying to install it on my own to make it go smoothly? [17:02] hello - I'm having a strange issue with my laptop, ubuntu and a HDMI KVM switch. Whenever I switch away from my laptop (so effectively remove the HDMI) my laptop goes into a suspend mode/shutsdown the LAN interface [17:03] I'm not sure how to stop this happening. [17:13] Maik: where can I find info (sorry if you've linked it before) about the SNAP bug you were on about? :) [17:13] snap bug? [17:16] Why do I always have to killall snap store and restart [17:28] Hey. How can i set the UID/GID of the mount point of an ext4 filesystem? cause uid=xxx,gid=yyy don't work with ext4; all the things i tried it always change the mount point to root:root? [17:30] akem: mount it and sudo chown to the right uid/gid afterwards [17:31] akem: ext4 stores uid/gid in the inodes of the filesystem and has no way to override it with mount options [17:32] seere, Cool it worked, thanks. :) [17:33] akem: you have to do this only once, as uid/gid are stored in the filesystem. [17:34] seere, Yep, it's because it was an NTFS FS so i had to use that, i changed it to ext4, didn't think about changing it and it would keep it after unmounting. [17:52] has anyone here installed Ubuntu 20.10 in Virtualbox ? I'm trying for the 3rd time now but the installer gets stuck about 1/3 of the way through === ijohnson is now known as ijohnson|lunch [17:56] devslash: stuck? Doing what? [17:56] stuck installing [17:56] i redownloaded the iso [17:57] and I started over [17:57] stuck how? [17:57] did you checksum the image? [17:58] the iso has a bug thats causing the installer to crash [17:58] Probably a quick question; How come whenever I format a MicroSD card as exfat in Ubuntu, android devices see it as corrupt, and re-format it as exfat? [17:59] RJ45: FAT32 [17:59] devslash: well is it crashing or stuck [17:59] (partition table and unalocated partition created in Gparted, and mkfs.exfat ) [18:00] RJ45: because exfat isn't very well supported except in various specific ways [18:00] Maik: nope, exfat, both times it gets formatted [18:00] matsaman, I just ran the installed for the 3rd time and this time it crashes [18:00] if you want to use it on Android, let Android format it [18:00] this is from an iso for 20.10 [18:00] devslash: so sometimes it crashes and sometimes just stuck? [18:00] yes [18:00] is there any mkfs voodoo I can do to make it recognised by an android device from the get-go? [18:01] im downloading 20.04 LTS to see if it has the same issue [18:01] RJ45: pretty sure to let it work on on android devices you need to format it in FAT16 or 32 [18:01] devslash: be sure to do the checksum, too [18:01] RJ45: if you want to use it on Android, let Android format it [18:01] use Disks to format the sd card [18:02] or what matsaman said [18:02] Maik: when it gets re-formatted by the android device, it gets re-formatted at exfat [18:02] not fat32 [18:02] android is no-longer limited to fat32, that's half a decade ago [18:02] ok then [18:02] matsaman, im on windows. i dunno how to check it on windows [18:03] my dad is tech illiterate, has a new phone, wants an sd card with music on it, he lives farrr away [18:03] RJ45: the fact remains that the only format that is certain (mostly) to work with Android is what _Android itself_ formats as [18:03] would be super cool if I could just , load it with stuff and it "just work" [18:03] RJ45: you don't have an android device to format with? [18:04] matsaman: that's not really the point, there *should* be a way to make it work [18:05] if it can be figured out, that would make future formatting 110% more convenient [18:05] devslash: https://superuser.com/questions/245775/is-there-a-built-in-checksum-utility-on-windows-7#898377 [18:05] ubuntu can only turn off display < 15min or never? [18:06] RJ45: I agree, but that's not your problem at this moment [18:06] conr: hrmm? [18:06] I'd argue it's everyone's problem [18:06] conr: seems like it [18:07] consistency between devices of which supposedly support the same partition type is very important [18:07] Hello when I turn on youtube on fresh installation my sound just turns off 5 seconds into watching a youtube video? [18:07] exfat should = exfat [18:07] matsaman: Settings > Power > Blank Screen > 1-15mins, Never [18:07] why does my sound just turn off randomly? [18:08] thats rough [18:08] RJ45: 'supposedly' is your issue [18:08] exfat is theoretically well supported across devices, but in practice not really [18:08] the end [18:09] should probably thank your lucky stars you're not dealing with an iPhone [18:09] well when I format as exfat in Ubuntu, ubuntu sees is but android does not, but when I format as exfat in android, both ubuntu and android see it, so CLEARLY the issue is with how mkfs is formatting exfat [18:09] or perhaps a user error I am not seeing? [18:10] you could look at it as that being the issue [18:10] but in reality the issue is the reverse [18:10] Android is less tolerant and GNU/Linux is more tolerant [18:10] GNU/Linux sees any old exfat and says "ok" [18:10] Android only wants a particular exfat [18:10] or it craps out [18:10] so again, if you want support from a less tolerant thing, you need to allow that thing to have its way [18:11] that said, yes, there is probably some magical way to call mkfs on Ubuntu that will allow Android to not complain [18:11] there must be a way to make mkfs.exfat format in a perticular way that android would like.. is there a modifier I can experiment with? [18:11] _but_ if you have an Android device, the _fastest_ solution is to just let Android format it [18:11] I don't want the fastest solution, I want the purest autistic solution [18:12] I don't think autists want a solution that only works for one case [18:13] how would you format exfat from Windows for Android? From macOS for Android? [18:13] the one solution that works every time is using Android for the format [18:13] is there any particular nuance with mkfs.exfat of which could possibly be why android doesn't like the default way it formats? [18:13] yes of course [18:14] is there something I could add to the mkfs.exfat command? [18:15] maybe it's something about -s sectors-per-cluster [18:15] probably [18:15] my internet is apparently clogged and only IRC is working [18:15] I would search for 'how format exfat for android from linux' [18:15] tried searching that [18:16] literally that same phrase too, which is funny [18:16] try "from linux" then [18:19] I bet formatting exfat on windows would work with android [18:19] is this really the solution 'just let the proprietary thing do it' [18:19] ¬_¬ [18:20] that's the nature of proprietary things [18:20] both 20.04 and 20.10 crash in virtualbox [18:20] just format the card on a android device and done [18:20] geez [18:20] what am I gonna do, format my dad's android SD card with ext4 ?? [18:20] RJ45: do you have an android device or not? [18:21] if you have one, let it format the thing, and if you really want to you can examine _how_ it formatted it, and then duplicate it, pointlessly, with Ubuntu's own mkfs [18:21] I have an android device, but what if the way MY android device does it in a way my long distance dad's android device doesn't like?? [18:21] this isn't about Ubuntu anymore, take it to discuss or offtopic [18:21] devslash: entirely possible; or your VM extensions could be broken [18:21] RJ45: then nothing is going to help you [18:21] what extensions ? [18:22] devslash: your hardware and firmware level VM support [18:22] it's like, a 3 hour journey I don't wanna have-to take 2 times, once to format with his device, and again to give it him back with music on it. [18:22] take the music with you on a laptop? [18:23] just for that?? [18:23] RJ45: but again, better to take it to -discuss or -offtopic [18:23] installation of fakecam fails on my 18.04... https://snapcraft.io/install/fakecam/ubuntu Any suggestions? [18:24] sometimes I wonder why I even switched to a linux desktop environment 10 years ago [18:24] this isn't a Ubuntu support question anymore imo [18:24] RJ45: why not? :P [18:24] life used-to be fun [18:24] ( ._.) [18:24] haha [18:26] gebbione: what exactly fails? did you "sudo snap install fakecam" what errors do you get? more info would be helpful === Gokturk-Away is now known as Gokturk [18:28] pavlos, i know i was trying to paste it using termbin but fails [18:28] RJ45: this is Android's problem, not GNU/Linux's [18:28] Android's, and your own idea that exfat is properly supported by all things the same way -- it isn't [18:29] pavlos, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QXksddhjMS/ [18:33] gebbione: can you do a clean update/upgrade? seems your system has issues with /var/cache/fontconfig/ [18:35] i tried apt clean / update and it is only asking to upgrade vivaldi [18:35] should i sun upgrade too? [18:35] will it install ubuntu 20? [18:35] gebbione: no, an update/upgrade will stay at 18.04 [18:36] sed /sun/run/ [18:36] upgrade bumps my nvidia drivers to a later version but this usually causes me problems [18:37] someone please humour me and look at this [18:37] https://pastebin.com/raw/QyTSzEDk [18:37] so i ll show you what i get prompted with [18:37] these are the outputs of fdisk from both formatting exfat in linux, and formatting with an android tablet [18:37] how can I replicate what the android tablet did, with mkfs ? [18:38] by examining what it makes [18:38] yes but I don't know how to reproduce it with mkfs [18:38] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SqWggHHtWc/ [18:39] i dont see what would make a difference in the upgrade [18:39] it asks to remove some packages and upgrade vivaldi [18:39]