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[00:56] <teward> test
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[04:01] <guiverc> 'errors.ubuntu.com' bug reports can be treated like ordinary reports.  i just saw a lxqt-config issue for latest bionic, which to me is EOL (9 months for LXQt/Next; LXDE was LTS not LXQt)  .. nobody will care will they?
 I think that makes sense.
[04:04] <guiverc> Thanks @kc2bez 
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[12:34] <kc2bez> hmm, does the new bridgebot ignore lugito messages?
[12:34] <kc2bez> Looks like it does.
[20:52] <RyuKurisu[m]> <kc2bez "hmm, does the new bridgebot igno"> I had set it to ignore, but I thought that was a personal setting in Matrix? 🤔
[20:56] <kc2bez> I haven't decided yet if it is a limitation or feature XD
[21:04] <kc2bez> !standup
[21:04] <KGIII> o/ It's snowing, so I am here. I got my plowing done in time.
[21:04] <wxl> oi
 /o
[21:06] <guiverc> o/
 o/
[21:07] <kc2bez> ack KGIII, wxl, @Leokolb , guiverc and kc2bez
[21:07] <wxl> ok you're up KGIII :)
[21:08] <KGIII> I've got nothing to say this week. Things are going fine. I haven't done today's tests 'cause I had to plow some snow, but it's downloading now.
[21:08] <kc2bez> sounds good, thanks for testing
[21:08] <wxl> okie dokie well thanks for the continued help, especially as it relates to support
[21:09] <wxl> i guess that makes me next
[21:09] <kc2bez> yup
[21:09] <wxl> my big push this week (with LOTS of help) has been getting international support set up
[21:09] <wxl> i have one last thing to do (fix the arabic irc channel)
[21:09] <wxl> but right now we have support in spanish, portuguese, french, german, russian, chinese, japanese, and arabic
[21:09] <wxl> this exists both in telegram and on irc and they're bridged together
[21:10] <wxl> (and added benefit is that we're now using matterbridge rather than teleirc)
[21:10] <wxl> s/and/an/
[21:10] <wxl> we also have a subcategory for each of those on the discourse as well
[21:10] <wxl> i'm told we received our first support request in german today, so very exciting
[21:10] <wxl> i am so delighted to be able to better reach users in their native language
[21:11] <kc2bez> I agree
[21:11] <wxl> we have links to all of those under /links on the website
[21:11] <wxl> we don't have separate ones for discourse because it should be pretty obvious i think
[21:11] <wxl> i also flipped discourse to show categories on the home page so it's a bit more friendly
[21:12] <kc2bez> I like it
[21:12] <wxl> @leokolb and i have been working on tracking down a libreoffice bug that affects thunar and pcmanfm-qt with libreoffice on samba shares
[21:12] <wxl> i think that's it really besides the usual support stuff
[21:13] <wxl> i plan on making an announcement about the international support soon
[21:13] <wxl> and i think that is it for me
[21:13] <KGIII> Do we have many Spanish speakers that want to offer help? I speak a bit of Spanish, so I may be able to offer some assistance there.
 Good (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> i plan on making an announcement about the international support soon)
[21:13] <kc2bez> thanks wxl ! sounds good, looking forward to the announcement.
[21:14] <wxl> KGIII: i'll let @N0um3n0 correct me but i believe we have a rather large amount of native spanish speakers
[21:14] <wxl> however i'm not sure how many of them are paying attention to discourse
 @HMollerCl and me ;) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> KGIII: i'll let @N0um3n0 correct me but i believe we have a rather large amount of native spanish speakers)
[21:14] <wxl> i would say this: if you do see an unanswered support request, you might check in with @N0um3n0 first. he's really the head of our globalization team
[21:15] <wxl> OH
[21:15] <KGIII> I'll keep an eye out. I usually have that tab open.
[21:15] <wxl> IRC folks: i have to fix arabic but from any one of the English lubuntu channels you should be able to use normal language factoids with ubottu and it will Just Work™
[21:15] <wxl> as an example:
[21:15] <wxl> !fr
[21:15] <wxl> note it does not say ubuntu-fr but lubuntu-fr
[21:16] <kc2bez> Nice!
[21:16] <wxl> go do that in any other channel and you'll get the normal ubuntu one
[21:16] <guiverc> very nice wxl 
[21:17] <kc2bez> Thanks again!
[21:17] <wxl> @N0um3n0 if you want to change the name of the arabic telegram group back to what it was before, that would be fine. matterbridge doesn't pay attention to group names but relies on permanent group ids
[21:17] <wxl> (i should mention teleirc was deprecated so the fact that it worked at all was a miracle; it's great to have finally moved)
[21:17] <wxl> ok i'm done
[21:17] <kc2bez> +1
[21:17] <kc2bez> ok
[21:18] <kc2bez> @Leokolb is up next
 Testing Hirsute and Focal - some time on Libre Writer Samba sharing bug 1875717- more of problem of access rights
 -digging deeper
 found this known bug at Libre 
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115747
 Thanks @wxl for the help and tips!
[21:19] <kc2bez> interesting issue, I glanced at the LP bug earlier
 will dig deeper and get to the bottom before xmas??
[21:19] <kc2bez> appreciate that
 done
[21:19] <kc2bez> Thanks @Leokolb !
[21:20] <wxl> i so appreciate your help with that leo
[21:20] <kc2bez> guiverc: Your turn
[21:20] <guiverc> can't give much sorry; support mainly.  that's all
[21:20] <kc2bez> Well, that is super helpful!
[21:21] <kc2bez> It is very much appreciated!
[21:21] <wxl> it's huge
[21:21] <kc2bez> I guess that leaves me.
[21:21] <kc2bez> Not too much to add.
[21:21] <kc2bez> * Reviewed and modified the artwork contest announcement. I think it is ready to go unless anyone else has any comments.
[21:21] <kc2bez> * Worked on the https://lubuntu.me/links page. I added the links for all the channels that wxl and @N0um3n0 put together.
[21:22] <kc2bez> The links page took a bit to get them so it was condensed but not too busy.
[21:22] <wxl> it looks marvelous :)
[21:22] <kc2bez> I am happy with the way it turned out
 Is a work from https://phab.lubuntu.me/T177
[21:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] creation of irc channels and website update with new channels.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T177
[21:22] <wxl> my eyes were going cross with all those channels and groups and topics and factoids so it's nice to have had someone else deal with the art and website XD
 fun fact: the @ notifications work over the bridge :P
[21:23] <wxl> nice!
[21:23] <kc2bez> Ping!
[21:23] <wxl> i think you mean ping @teward001 XD
[21:23] <kc2bez> XD
 *sends an EMP through the interwebs into wxl's system* oops did I do that :)
 sorry i am interrupting continue :)
[21:24] <wxl> i think dan was done
[21:24] <kc2bez> Yeah
[21:24] <wxl> we were just heaping praise on him for his good work :)
 heh
[21:24] <kc2bez> Unless anyone had any questions
[21:24] <kc2bez> Thanks for all your help on the bridge stuff @teward001
[21:24] <wxl> so when's the artwork announcement going out?
 ah yes that's something i should report :P
[21:25] <guiverc> artwork contest looked good to me kc2bez 
[21:25] <kc2bez> I can go anytime, I didn't want to bump into your announcement wxl
[21:25] <wxl> oh by all means shoot it out
[21:25] <wxl> more news is better than less
[21:25] <kc2bez> Sounds good
[21:25] <kc2bez> Will do tonight
[21:26] <kc2bez> Thanks guiverc for your help on that!
 mind if i drop a few points in?
 for my stuff this week :P
[21:26] <kc2bez> Please do
[21:26] <wxl> plz
 - Replaced TeleIRC (deprecated NodeJS bridge for chats) with Matterbridge - most channels are back and bridged.
 Figured out your Discourse ccomments problem
 Took a stab at email for Discourse and a few other things being wonky, it was a weird problem.
[21:27] <wxl> (all lubuntu channels are back)
 Just happened to notice is all :)
 yep all Lubuntu channels are back
[21:28] <wxl> oh jeez i forgot about that stupid comments thing
[21:28] <wxl> just so everyone knows:
[21:28] <wxl> there's a topic template for support
[21:28] <wxl> it's in the form of an HTML comment
[21:28] <wxl> it tells them to read the instructions before posting so we can get all the info we need
[21:29] <wxl> unfortunately i think some users unknowingly just replaced the text with their own text
[21:29] <wxl> and NOT removing the HTML comment tags
 s/some/most/
[21:29] <wxl> thus making their body text seem invisible
[21:29] <kc2bez> It was a head scratcher
[21:29] <wxl> we updated it so that it's clear where to start typing
[21:29] <kc2bez> Thanks for that
 def took some digging on my side to point the problem at 'staff' :P
 but then i was done :P
[21:30] <guiverc> yeah thanks for alert of that wxl
[21:30] <wxl> if you see another one like that, edit the post (or get a mod/admin to)
[21:30]  * guiverc meant the html bit.. i'm behind
[21:30] <wxl> np guiverc i knew what you meant :)
[21:30] <wxl> and thanks again @teward001 for pointing out the obvious
 :P
[21:31] <wxl> and working so darn quickly on these infrastructure issues we've had
[21:31] <wxl> matterbridge popped up so quickly i was shocked
[21:31] <wxl> and last week or so when ci was returned to existence
 well CI was the harder problem
 *points fingers at someone causing problems*
[21:32] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/file/data/vcfkt6x656czh7ao52u5/PHID-FILE-p7x4hnakcjuzjrp4nqey/simon_s_fault.jpg
[21:32]  * kc2bez whistles and looks away
[21:32] <KGIII> I just noticed this. This link: https://lubuntu.me/links/ sends people to this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu which is depreciated and sends people back to this link: https://lubuntu.me/
[21:32] <wxl> XD
 that's something that can be fixed
[21:33] <kc2bez> Nice catch KGIII
 kc2bez: ^ add a ticket to the system :P
[21:33] <wxl> yeah we should at least modify that
 for any deprecated links.
[21:33] <wxl> "Our Old Wiki"
[21:33] <wxl> we might want to make the FIRST link there the manual
[21:34] <wxl> the manual isn't linked there at all
[21:34]  * wxl looks at kc2bez with puppy dog eyes
[21:34] <kc2bez> I can do it
[21:34] <kc2bez> Easy to fix
[21:35] <guiverc> the wiki page did have the wiki should be considered unmaintained & deprecated at least.. but yeah looped....
[21:36] <KGIII> It seemed a bit redundant.
[21:36] <kc2bez> I'll just drop the old wiki link and move things around so the manual is first
[21:36] <wxl> i know
[21:36] <wxl> i would keep the old wiki for now
[21:36] <wxl> at least since there's stuff there still relevant to 18.04
[21:36] <kc2bez> the link to it?
 I have to leave, I'll be back in a bit
[21:36] <wxl> yeah
[21:36] <kc2bez> ok
[21:36] <wxl> ok
[21:37] <wxl> once 18.04 is dead, i say we burn any remnant of lxde away
[21:37] <kc2bez> agree
[21:37] <guiverc> KGIII, I added various links to the wiki.ubuntu.com pages. some autodirect on timer, some have notice.. depending on what detail/info I felt page has (less useful was more prominent, potentially dangerous redirected)
[21:37] <wxl> and we'll just turn wiki.u.n/Lubuntu into a straight up 0-second redirect to lubuntu.me
[21:37] <kc2bez> ok I'll shuffle the old wiki link to the bottom/back
[21:37] <KGIII> Ok. That makes sense to me.
[21:39] <wxl> if anyone wants to make a project out of digging through the old wiki to see if there's anything useful and transferring it over to phabricator, that would be great
[21:39] <guiverc> I'd still use >0 secs.. there are a lot of lxde users who will I bet keep using wiki post-april-2021
[21:39] <wxl> i.e. things related to development, contribution, etc.
[21:39] <wxl> stuff related to support can just rot since it's all lxde
[21:40] <wxl> guiverc: well maybe we should move all those pages to /LXDE rather than /Lubuntu :)
[21:40] <guiverc> that makes HEAPS of sense wxl..
[21:40] <kc2bez> +1 on that
[21:40]  * guiverc likes it a lot
 Afree
[21:41] <wxl> if someone wants to make a task for it, that would be great
[21:41] <wxl> better yet if someone wants to take on the task
[21:41] <wxl> might be a nice little project to just pick at day by day
[21:41] <wxl> ok so anything else anyone?
 oh yeah i made a status page for the infra
 https://status.lubuntu.me/
 so you can determine if stuff is broke or under maintenance or not ;)
[21:42] <kc2bez> Awesome!
 'tis all from me.  Time for food for me.  \o
[21:42] <kc2bez> Thanks everyone!
[21:42] <wxl> thanks again all!
[21:43] <KGIII> Glad to help. I've been learning tons, which was one of the goals.
 Thanks all
[21:47] <KGIII> Is it safe to assume there will be a meeting on the 24th?
[21:47] <kc2bez> We can try to meet briefly.
[21:48] <kc2bez> I know I should be available
[21:48] <guiverc> i wouldn't count on me being there, it'll be 25th here then   (i don't say much anyway)
[21:48] <kc2bez> Oh good point
[21:48] <kc2bez> I forgot you were in the future :P
[21:48] <KGIII> I may have real-world stuff going on, but maybe not much/any due to the pandemic.
[21:48] <kc2bez> Same boat here KGIII
[21:49] <KGIII> I'll plan on stopping in - *if* the real world doesn't intervene. 
[21:49] <kc2bez> Sounds good, I will do the same.
[22:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T180: Cleanup Ubuntu Wiki] guiverc (Chris Guiver) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180
[22:08] <guiverc> wxl ^ sort of fit what you were after, or bits missing?
[22:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T180: Cleanup Ubuntu Wiki] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180#3929
[22:23] <KGIII> If the wiki is redirecting in 10 seconds, how are we supposed to get the URLs/data from the old wiki to add to the phab wiki?
[22:26] <guiverc> KGIII, if you give me a link, it can be done.. (editing the url as I recall)
[22:26] <guiverc> KGIII, are you a wiki editor?
[22:27] <KGIII> I haven't gotten that far. I was just mulling it over as I was reading the goal of the task. I can also probably generate a wiki editor account and look through it that way.
[22:28] <guiverc> it's your normal launchpad account, a privilege is added to it.   if you'd like to assist in the task I'm happy to sponsor your becoming a wiki editor  (I doubt others here will object)
[22:29] <KGIII> I'm logging in now. I'm willing/able to *help* go through the old wiki to look for still-useful information.
[22:29] <guiverc> KGIII, apply here https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wiki-editors  popey actually approves, but it's easier if people sponsor/suggest/recommend :)
[22:30] <guiverc> sorry I shouldn't have typed pope*y that way , apologies !   until application had been made
[22:31] <KGIII> Just click 'join the team'?
[22:31] <guiverc> yep.
[22:32]  * guiverc assumes so, I don't see that option being editor already
[22:32]  * guiverc my page has a 'leave team' option instead
[22:32] <KGIII> Done. I'll await approval and then start going through the wiki pages as time allows. I'll be cautious, but it's *just* recommending stuff so I can handle that.
[22:33] <KGIII> I already have the phab account going on. That step is already done.
[22:33] <guiverc> KGIII, can you access the lubuntu notes page I created
[22:33] <KGIII> This one: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180?
[22:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- Error: T180? is an invalid task reference.
[22:34] <guiverc> more so the notes page within that... https://notes.lubuntu.me/xGUhgY-9Tdip0AzRUT6wGQ
[22:35] <guiverc> KGIII, it contains the clues wxl originally provided me that I used for what I did..
[22:35] <KGIII> Nope. It redirects me to https://notes.lubuntu.me/
[22:36] <KGIII> It has a login option - but no registration option.
[22:36] <guiverc> yeah i feated that & why i asked.. you likely don't have permissions for that. 
[22:37] <KGIII> It appears not. My phab account and SSO account don't let me in.
[22:38] <guiverc> KGIII, hold on please...
[22:38] <KGIII> Alright, I'm gonna grab a snack.
[22:39] <guiverc> :)     (i asked a question in another room, I don't know what's involved with notes.lubuntu.me)
[22:48] <wxl> i thought i used to have access to wiki editors but i don't
[22:49] <KGIII> It's all good. I am in no rush. I am in the exact opposite of a rush. It's a lot of different systems to learn, and it's entirely new to me.
[22:50] <wxl> i will say this: the ubuntu wiki is slow and annoying. that's one of the reasons we moved away from it
[22:51] <KGIII> It'd be nice if the Ubuntu SSO worked in more places. 
[22:52] <guiverc> KGIII, email sent to popey supporting your wiki editor request
[22:52] <KGIII> Thanks! I'm reasonably harmless.
[22:52] <guiverc> with time zones etc.. it'll be actioned when it's actioned
[22:52] <wxl> we have a long standing ticket to set up SSO login on Phabricator
[22:52] <wxl> it should be fairly easy on Discourse, though
[22:53] <KGIII> As I said guiverc, I'm not in any huge rush. I just figured I could look at the old Wiki and take some notes as I went from page to page.
[22:54] <KGIII> And, when you say 'long standing', how long is that actually? (I'm just curious.)
[22:54] <wxl> one sec
[22:55] <wxl> oh duh we DO have SSO support in Discourse X''''D
[22:55] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T94
[22:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Resolved] Ubuntu SSO support in Discourse: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T94
[22:56] <popey> KGIII / guiverc done
[22:56] <KGIII> Thanks!
[22:56] <guiverc> thank you popey 
[22:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T35: Ubuntu SSO for apps] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T35#3933
[22:56] <wxl> ^ that's the ticket
[22:56] <wxl> March 2019 is "long standing" I guess XD
[22:56] <wxl> oh hai popey
[22:56] <KGIII> That was almost 1.5 years ago. So, yeah, that's long standing.
[22:56] <wxl> it's always weird when he pops up out of nowhere
[22:57] <kc2bez> I thought he was everywhere 🤣
[22:57] <wxl> he's all like https://live.staticflickr.com/2395/2439356053_f00bb3a0c1_b.jpg
[22:57] <KGIII> I'm going to go poke around the old wiki to see what the system looks like. I should probably also eat something more substantial than an orange.
[22:58] <wxl> KGIII: it may be helpful to know that the wiki software is MoinMoin and has its own rather annoying markup language
[22:58] <kc2bez> T35 might actually be carried over from old phab
[23:00] <KGIII> I have never heard of MoinMoin until right this very minute. That's okay. I'm not doing anything better - though I still need to get a live test done today.
[23:00] <wxl> KGIII: you're not missing anything. it sucks, like i said.
[23:01] <KGIII> Is phab more like the markup used everywhere else?
[23:01] <wxl> phab does have its own little markup but it's *very* close to standard markdown
[23:02] <wxl> it's roughly compatible with md and rst from what i remember
[23:02] <wxl> i'm sure it'll probably ltake html as well
[23:02] <KGIII> Good. I can handle that.
[23:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T177: creation of irc channels and website update with new channels.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T177#3937
[23:15] <KGIII> Ha! I found an error on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/. Scroll down. It has Groovy as 21.04 in the releases section.
[23:17] <KGIII> I do not yet have an edit button, or I'd have fixed it for 'em.
[23:17] <guiverc> You likely aren't logged in... (to wiki)
[23:17] <guiverc> that does use Ubuntu's SSO
[23:18] <guiverc> @ top to right there is a login link
[23:19] <guiverc> which will change "Immutable Page" to an editable one (for community available pages)
[23:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T177: creation of irc channels and website update with new channels.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) edited a message on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T177#3937
[23:20] <KGIII> Ah, I had to log out and log back in. I now see an edit button, at least on that page.
[23:22]  * guiverc suspects cached packages denied you access (which you likely didn't have when you first went to page earlier today.. now you have access)
[23:23] <guiverc> s/packages/packets/
[23:24] <KGIII> It wants me to wait 7 minutes before saving my edit. I can do that. Small steps... Small steps... 
[23:24] <KGIII> As always, thanks for the help.
[23:24] <guiverc> 7 mins?  there weren't warnings about another person editing it?  (if one person edits, it's locked for 10mins.. that's what 7 mins reminds me of)
[23:25] <KGIII> This page was opened for editing or last previewed at 2020-12-17 18:18:15 by franksmcb.
[23:25] <KGIII> You should refrain from editing this page for at least another 6 minute(s), to avoid editing conflicts.
[23:25] <KGIII> To leave the editor, press the Cancel button.
[23:25] <guiverc> leave it alone whilst Bill has the page open
[23:26] <guiverc> Bill (franksmcb) may detected the issue and is correcting.. 
[23:26] <guiverc> franksmcb is with Ubuntu MATE
[23:26] <KGIII> Yup. I figured. After all, it told me to. 
[23:26] <KGIII> Ah, I don't know any of those people - yet.
[23:27] <guiverc> he is often in these rooms too.. (we're often in other teams room likewise)
 That's me being a ghost. Good find KG
[23:30] <KGIII> I'm pretty content with the three rooms I have open now. I do have Telegram set up so that I can see #lubuntu_devel if I miss something.
[23:30] <KGIII> I assume franksmcb is gonna fix the problem text?
 It should be fixed now
[23:31] <KGIII> Indeed it is. Thanks!
[23:31] <guiverc> thank you KGIII for noticing. 
[23:32] <KGIII> I tend to notice small things. They just stand out. I'm not sure why.
[23:32] <guiverc> and now you have the power to correct many of them :)
[23:35] <KGIII> With great power comes great responsibility! 
[23:36] <KGIII> There, I finished the live ISO test. It's time for me to eat and check snow levels. I shouldn't need to plow again tonight. I can clean up the rest of the snow in the morning.
 Also good to "meet" you KGIII
[23:42] <guiverc> KGIII, I added a gdoc link (you may get notes.lubuntu.me access; but that will take time)  .. it looks yuk in gdoc, but that's easy..   pad.ubuntu.com would be my next choice; but you likely don't have access to that either thus the gdoc
 Thanks for the help Bill! (re @franksmcb: It should be fixed now)
[23:57] <KGIII> Nice to meet you too, Bill. I'm terrible with names, so we'll meet multiple times!