[01:36] I did a poll and talked to the people. I left her for a while, and the yes ended up winning with 100% of the votes. Based on this and the feedback that was provided, I would like to say that, I want to grant UBPorts, the use of the Ubuntu Unity logo on Ubuntu Touch and the Lomiri launcher icon. Of that, I would like to know your final [01:36] feedback, whether you would agree or not. [03:01] What [03:11] bayzol was added by: bayzol [03:22] @alera_on [I did a poll and talked to the people. I left her for a while, and the yes ende …], which icon? [03:28] oh, speaking of icons. we should add the lomiri icon to the launcher [03:36] (Photo, 1280x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/3eU9ycNf.png [03:44] oh, the unity remix [03:46] or ubuntu unity https://ubuntuunity.org/ [03:46] unity 7.5 [03:47] best unity 7.x ever made ❤️ [04:06] @mateosalta [oh, speaking of icons. we should add the lomiri icon to the launcher], Lomiri has an icon? [04:08] I think UT should have a logo, Yumi just doesn't cut to it for me 😅 [04:15] (Photo, 1280x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/etzr4dxT.png I will explain to make it better and easier to understand: I took a poll in the main group of Ubuntu Unity to find out if, the community would be for or against me granting the use of the Ubuntu Unity logo to UBPorts. The proposal would be to launch an initial initiative for an eve [04:15] ntual unification of the efforts around Lomiri and Unity in the future. [04:21] imho that would be real miracle! [04:22] let's get united [04:30] Sure, United under the unity banner? [04:31] haha or united vision and goals [04:43] @alera_on [], I thought the one on the left was the one we where going with sooner or later? [04:45] i hope not > if i understand the ubuntu logo correctly those 3 things should be always equal » community+canonical+users [04:46] canonical=founder or creator [04:48] first i didn't like uu logo at all but now after knowing uu 20.10 i can't be more grateful and inspired ... imho ofc [04:52] and btw Rudra's hexagon is great > hexagon structure used for example by bees is the strongest structure [04:54] and that's what Allan is trying to say ❤️ [04:55] heinner430 was added by: heinner430 [04:55] good morning, can i put ubuntu touches on this phone model? I am attaching a picture of the phone details [04:55] (Photo, 614x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/id2vvuto.png [04:58] @heinner430 [], android 9.1? what? [05:01] Android 9.1 was a thing? [05:05] probably some fraction [05:07] I was looking it up, there is something called EMUI 9.1. But that is huawei's os [05:08] not os just DE or UI [05:09] xioami has MIUI or what [05:09] im using redmi 8a [05:10] @heinner430 [], Looks like a fake chinese device [05:10] @ItsMeShouko [Looks like a fake chinese device], Who knows [05:10] someone has good eye [05:10] lol [05:11] Maybe the company pushed out an update, and theirs had some kind of bug? [05:11] @WolfLink115 [Maybe the company pushed out an update, and theirs had some kind of bug?], But still they won't mark it with 9.1 [05:12] Also kernel version seems too old to ship with android 8 or 9 [05:12] Yeah, your right [05:12] FAKE!! [05:12] lol [05:13] that build version is also similar to those fake chinese devices lmao "alps" [05:16] @ItsMeShouko [that build version is also similar to those fake chinese devices lmao "alps"], yes it is, the phone is a copy of iphone X, and has on board 6 gb ram and 128 storage [05:18] @heinner430 [yes it is, the phone is a copy of iphone X, and has on board 6 gb ram and 128 st …], I doubt that's even legit [05:19] I had ones device that had 2g but showed 4g and had 8 gb storage and 512 mb ram but showed 64 gb storage and 3 gb ram [05:21] [Edit] I had one device that had 2g but showed 4g and had 8 gb storage and 512 mb ram but showed 64 gb storage and 3 gb ram [05:21] no luck for it with UT though anyway, it will be probably impossible to find kernel source code or any meaningful development for it [05:37] @alera_on [], might be an idea to talk to @cibersheep i think, things get buried quickly in this group [06:11] tho_mas_ch was added by: tho_mas_ch [06:14] @alera_on [I did a poll and talked to the people. I left her for a while, and the yes ende …], Sadly the poll 1- was not pinned for more peopeople to find 2- look at how many people are online here, only 13 voted? [06:14] I couldn't vote, it didnt give options [06:15] the poll was on uu channel [06:15] Oh? [06:15] uu? [06:15] ubuntu unity [06:15] And how many are there? [06:15] Oh, im not in that [06:16] Should I join? [06:16] 459 currently [06:16] Mhm my point is still valid [06:17] the poll was for uu lovers to let uu logo be shared nada mas [06:38] i think his point is that there are 459 members bug only 13 voted [06:44] haha right = 13 who are awake [07:05] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/jjo5NMOI.webp [08:54] @Pete N. [Hi all . Using Pixel 3axl.. I only receive sms when remove my SIM card. Reboot w …], Are you on a US carrier? [09:45] @alera_on [I did a poll and talked to the people. I left her for a while, and the yes ende …], You are very kind but I think using the logo from another distro would make things muddier [09:57] FranzLiedl was added by: FranzLiedl [10:03] Hello everybody, thanks for all the hard work done so far. Has anybody here recently installed Ubuntu Touch on Oneplus 6 Enchilada? I could use some feedback [10:06] not sure what state enchilada is in right now [10:06] how did you install? [10:16] I didn't yet, I'd like some feedback before trying [10:16] I just got a Oneplus 6 (not 6T which is fajita), I tried to understand documentation page and I'm a bit lost [10:16] I'm not a programmer, just a low-level Ubuntu user [10:17] wait is the 6T listed on https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io? [10:18] It is [10:18] (Photo, 950x52) https://irc.ubports.com/Sqw7K3kv.png [10:18] I guess the purple part of the bar shows that the maturity is not full [10:19] And community device means no official support [10:19] @FranzLiedl [It is], hmm indeed, but the 6 is not [10:19] In documentation the developer says that it's feasible both for fajita (6T) and enchilada (6) [10:19] @FranzLiedl [And community device means no official support], No [10:20] Not necessary [10:20] I'm just lost with the procedure of installation, never tried that before [10:20] @FranzLiedl [And community device means no official support], community means it is ported by the community rather than the core team [10:20] I also want to thank you all for the support you're giving me! :) [10:20] @Fuseteam [community means it is ported by the community rather than the core team], Ok, I see [10:24] hmm no installer support yet [10:25] @FranzLiedl [In documentation the developer says that it's feasible both for fajita (6T) and …], what documentation did you mean? [10:31] documentation on github [10:36] I've checked and I see that oneplus 6 is not yet optimal, while other devices (nexus 5, oneplus one) don't cost that much and are very optimized. I'll buy and try one of these. Thank you so much guys for your listening and replying! see you soon, have nice holidays :) [11:08] Unpolemically_canamo was added by: Unpolemically_canamo [11:23] Volker was added by: Volker [11:47] @FranzLiedl [I guess the purple part of the bar shows that the maturity is not full], Maturity is quite useless or a good guess for some devices. There are no rules how that is achieved. Volla phone has got a full bar, but is WIP. Some new ports have got higher values than some old devices like E5. [11:49] My personal opinion on that. [12:18] @FranzLiedl [In documentation the developer says that it's feasible both for fajita (6T) and …], @vince1171 ^^ [12:33] @Danfro [Maturity is quite useless or a good guess for some devices. There are no rules h …], To be fair Volla Phone deserves the full bar (or at least a close to full bar) in my opinion. Only problem is the rounded corners and you can live with that (at least I can), and unlike the OPO (full bar aswell) camera zoom works and its just wa [12:33] y snappier (which of course is to be expected from a new device and does not necessarily belong into a maturity evaluation). [12:33] fc01286 was added by: fc01286 [12:33] I am newbee and have a technical question, I saw this volla phone with the ubuntu touch option, does it have the option to have full control over the kernel like the pinephone or does it use the AOSP kernel with ubuntu touch on top of it? [12:36] @fc01286 [I am newbee and have a technical question, I saw this volla phone with the ubunt …], It uses Android kernel/Halium like most other Ubuntu Touch Devices but unlike the PinePhone/PineTab. [12:36] oh thanks, so I will wait for the pine phone [12:37] I want to be able to update the linux kernel [12:43] @Tafitson [To be fair Volla Phone deserves the full bar (or at least a close to full bar) i …], Hm. I thought it still had some issues with SIM detection and calls and ?. If all of that is solved and everything is working, then full bar sounds fine. [12:43] I might just be not up to date then. [12:47] @Danfro [Hm. I thought it still had some issues with SIM detection and calls and ?. If al …], I dont know about that, its working just fine for me with 2 sim cards. A lot of work was put into the volla phone and halium 9 devices in general with the last 2 ota versions so maybe it was fixed just recently though. [13:01] CYJITAH_52 was added by: CYJITAH_52 [13:43] @PhoenixLandPirate [I thought the one on the left was the one we where going with sooner or later?], Looks like the biohazard symbol 😐 [14:19] @alera_on [], Hello, not necesarrily connected to this, but can anyone explain to me why does Ubuntu Touch still carry "Ubuntu" in its name, wouldn't it be better to change the name and logo completely, to show that Canonical is not contributing anything to this product anymore? If you can direct me to a link where I co [14:19] uld read more about this, please do. Thank you and sorry for a weird question. [14:20] @Petr Krbec [Hello, not necesarrily connected to this, but can anyone explain to me why does …], it's still based on ubuntu and ubuntu is a recognized brand that can attract users [14:22] wow, still no questions for the upcoming Q&A on the forum? [14:26] @Petr Krbec [Hello, not necesarrily connected to this, but can anyone explain to me why does …], The Ubuntu ecosystem is (and should be) bigger than the projects where Canonical is an active contributor. Canonical is contributing by maintaining the archives from which it is built. Similar to Ubuntu MATE, for example. [14:27] OK thank you for the explanation [14:28] @alan_griffiths [The Ubuntu ecosystem is (and should be) bigger than the projects where Canonical …], And also by continuing development of Mir ;) [14:28] and by having Alan in here answering questions ;) [14:29] can i talk with the devloper [14:29] please [14:29] what developer? [14:30] developers of this project [14:30] just ask your question and if someone is around to answer they weill [14:30] [Edit] just ask your question and if someone is around to answer they will [14:31] @dohbee [what developer?], ohh sorry sir u r the admin i really noticed after reply u [14:31] i need a small help [14:31] @dohbee [what developer?], [Edit] ohh sorry sir u r the admin i really noticed after replying u [14:32] just ask your question in the group chat. this is an open community [14:33] actually i wanna install ubport on my poco f1 but i am getting bootloop after install so what to do is there any kernel or vendor/firmware is recommend [14:33] ?? [14:34] for the letest ub port gsi ? [14:34] i tryed it with linege os but not worked [14:34] @ggio01 [for the letest ub port gsi ?], ubuntu touch gsi isn't from ubports [14:35] @just_carlod [ubuntu touch gsi isn't from ubports], what the f** [14:35] is it for the ubuntu os }? [14:36] for pc systems? [14:36] @just_carlod [ubuntu touch gsi isn't from ubports], or maybe I'm wrong [14:36] have you checked https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4611/xiaomi-poco-f1-beryllium ? [14:36] @erfanoabdi made ubports gsi [14:36] afaik [14:37] i think the question belongs in this channel to be honest [14:37] it's not official as it doesn't work with system-image updates yet [14:37] yes, GSI zips are not supported by us [14:37] but the ubports devs aren't going to be able to help you :) [14:37] i think you should ask in https://t.me/UBports_porting instead [14:37] i need a ubuntu rom can anyone make [14:37] for poco f1 [14:38] @ggio01 [i need a ubuntu rom can anyone make], https://t.me/ubports/310640 [14:40] Hm, where can I contribute in the project? Especially language stuff [14:40] you can translate on https://translate.ubports.com [14:40] @SomaSchicksal [Hm, where can I contribute in the project? Especially language stuff], there is a language group but its invite only. Which languages do you want to do? [14:41] Arabic, cuz it is unbearable xD [14:45] I read the feedbacks above, but I was a little lost. However, I would like to point out that, the Ubuntu Unity community is willing to share efforts around a common goal. We know that Ubuntu Unity's natural path will be Lomiri and we want to offer this option that was developed to give the system its own identity, so that it is recogni [14:45] zable to people, both by those who are now using Unity 7 and future users of Lomiri (Unity 8). [14:47] @alera_on [I read the feedbacks above, but I was a little lost. However, I would like to p …], I don't understand what you mean. I don't think it makes sense to use the same logo for different things, especially when we've already worked on new brand designs for Lomiri and Ubuntu Touch, and the Ubuntu Unity one wasn't done with that consi [14:47] deration or involvement of our UX/graphics people [14:47] @SomaSchicksal [Arabic, cuz it is unbearable xD], I can get you invited to the language group ^^ [14:49] @dohbee [I don't understand what you mean. I don't think it makes sense to use the same l …], I understand. [14:52] @Flohack [I can get you invited to the language group ^^], Sure [14:55] @alera_on [I understand.], fwiw @cibersheep is ubports head of ui/ux [15:37] Harjuno73 was added by: Harjuno73 [16:50] i'm really liking ubuntu touch [16:50] but there's no discord app [16:50] and the telegram app on it isn't very good [16:50] is there some alternative to teleports? [16:53] the webapp version is the only alternative [16:53] I think that there is another webapp for Telegram, but I never managed to record an audio there, speaking about Teleports, it is getting improvements with the time [16:54] yeah i can't even view this group chat with teleports [16:54] just shows me a blank chat field [16:54] something's wrong with your teleports then [16:54] it works well in general with some missing features here and there [17:35] @Marcus Ly [yeah i can't even view this group chat with teleports], that should just work, have you tried restarting teleports? [17:45] Iam_VM was added by: Iam_VM [19:01] @Marcus Ly [is there some alternative to teleports?], How many telegram clients you think we want to maintain xd [19:02] One is already a pain to do. Thousands line of code, its one of the most complex UT apps if not the most complex one [19:04] 2 column layout, when? 😝 [19:04] patches accepted [19:12] @Flohack [@vince1171 ^^], No it's @kalube 's port (it use GSI) … Mine is currently faaaaar from being usable ^^ [19:12] @vince1171 [No it's @kalube 's port (it use GSI) … Mine is currently faaaaar from being usable …], Alrighty ^^ [19:12] don't get me started on the 6t being in that list and not the 6 [19:13] it wasn't me that had them added, I'll say that... [19:13] Oh ok :/ [19:13] on that note, what is the process to get the 6 added there? [19:13] make MRs/Prs ^^ [19:14] the port is in a bit of a purgatory state rn cuz I'm waiting for the system image stuff to get sorted I think [19:14] @Flohack [make MRs/Prs ^^], ah ok, I'm kinda new to figuring out the process, which repo if you don't mind? [19:15] it is currently stuck on Dalton systemimage changes [19:15] (but not regarding website I guess...) [19:15] 2 things please: … - Add your device to the devices page if its in development, porting but not ready for installer … - Add your device then later to the installer when its ready. … It will involve a few PRs / MRs to be done for each stage [19:16] @kalube [ah ok, I'm kinda new to figuring out the process, which repo if you don't mind?], Website its here: https://gitlab.com/ubports/infrastructure/devices.ubuntu-touch.io/-/tree/master/devices [19:16] Make a new file and MR it [19:16] @NotKit [it is currently stuck on Dalton systemimage changes], yeah that's alright, I did try booting the devel-flashable artifacts you made, it seemed to have issues mounting system, I think getting rid of the ramdisk overlay that's there might help [19:16] @Flohack [Make a new file and MR it], cheers, will do! [19:58] @Flohack Should I just have 2 separate pages for 6/T? It seems redundant to maintain 2 copies of the same data but I'm not sure if there's a simpler solution [19:58] A single page for both might make sense, as long as it won't mess with anything else too much [20:06] Jimmy Pierre was added by: Jimmy Pierre [20:13] two should be easier to look up on the list tho [20:22] @kalube [@Flohack Should I just have 2 separate pages for 6/T? It seems redundant to main …], No you can do 1 [20:23] (Photo, 800x68) https://irc.ubports.com/p5SBZsT7.png I can do this [20:24] (Photo, 792x63) https://irc.ubports.com/5E06GPVy.png OR I can have. I'm not sure which is better [20:24] @kalube [], well flo already says tis fine hmm [20:25] @kalube [], this looks cleaner [20:26] @Fuseteam [this looks cleaner], That's what I thought, I'll think I'll stick with that [20:26] wouldn't it be better to know which is fajita tho? [20:27]