[00:00]  * guiverc smiles, you're not alone with names... I typed Bill automatically; but still opened the wiki page to ensure my typed name was correct
[00:05] <KGIII> Also, seeing as you're from Oz, I'll make sure to get some pics for you when the winter gets interesting. I generally get about 3.5 meters of snow, at a minimum, each season. It's beautiful.
[00:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T177: creation of irc channels and website update with new channels.] Noumeno (Roberto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T177#3942
[00:23] <kc2bez> okie dokie. https://lubuntu.me/links has been updated. I added the manual and the LXQt wiki too as well as shuffled everything around.
[00:28] <KGIII> I clicked your link and Pidgin crashed. I'm sure it's just coincidental. 
[00:30] <kc2bez> I think so. It works here in Quassel :P
[00:30]  * guiverc was looking for a pidgin link, didn't find one :)
[00:30] <kc2bez> :D
[00:35] <KGIII> It had been open for quite a while. So, maybe that's why. 
[01:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T180: Cleanup Ubuntu Wiki] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180#3943
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[20:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> where do I get the source of git source of golang-github-zyedidia-tcell. I did a apt source on a hippo container and it gave me the source but I can't go back to a previous commit on it. it isn't a git repo.
[20:25] <wxl> right you need to check the package details
[20:25] <wxl> (to get the website)
[20:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/golang-github-zyedidia-tcell this is emply. 
[20:26] <wxl> not surprisingly
[20:26] <wxl> what homepage is listed in the control file?
[20:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> I actually want to test  if 1.4.8 version builds in a focal machine. But the souce I have is for latest version.
[20:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://github.com/zyedidia/tcell
[20:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> is the homepage
[20:27] <wxl> ok so you should be able to go there and grab the binary
[20:28] <wxl> you'll need to apply any patches so essentially it's like you need to repackage it for focal
[20:28] <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah. That's what I am trying to avoid. is there something like phab for this package in ubuntu side?
[20:29] <wxl> nope
[20:29] <The_LoudSpeaker> I can also clone from salsa and modify the debian folder that too works but wanted something in ubuntu side.
[20:29] <wxl> mod'ing salsa might be an easier way to go
[20:29] <The_LoudSpeaker> so salsa clone + patched debian/ should do it then?
[20:29] <wxl> in any case there's no quick and easy
[20:29] <The_LoudSpeaker> :(
[20:29] <wxl> assuming you end up with something that's appropriate for ubuntu
[20:30]  * The_LoudSpeaker is wondering what I signed up for.
[20:30] <wxl> i mean you might be able to take the new ubuntu package and just change everything to focal
[20:30] <wxl> why DID you sign up for this?
[20:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> I can use a merge tool which will help in getting the correct patched debian folder
[20:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> I signed up coz I wanted to do a SRU and utkarsh happened to ask me if I can SRU this one. seems small enough so I agreed.
[20:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> utkarsh maintains this on salsa.
[20:32]  * The_LoudSpeaker goes to install smerge on his containers.
[20:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> Warning: apt-key is deprecated. Manage keyring files in trusted.gpg.d instead (see apt-key(8)).
[20:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> wow. 
[20:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> hippo just threw this at me
[20:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> gg.
[20:34] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> that has been discussed in other mechanisms for some time :P
[20:34] <The_LoudSpeaker> oh you are here too.
[20:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> you asked na if I had tried building it in focal
[20:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> it=golang-github-zyedidia-tcell
[20:35] <The_LoudSpeaker> that's what I am doing rn
[20:35] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> ... of course i'm around
[20:35] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> i don't always talk xD
[20:35] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> wxl knows this well :P
[20:35] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> wxl: they want something that depends on that SRU'd but it needs a new version too :P
[20:35] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> so :P
[20:35] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> because dependencies :P
[20:35] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> welcome to Dep Testing Hell
[20:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> It would be a lot easier to just use the latest version of this dependency instead of 1.4.8 but that will mean adding one more new package to focal : golang-github-xo-terminfo-dev 
[20:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> so.
[20:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> using 1.4.8 of this and teh version of micro in groovy is the best way imo.
[20:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> instead of going for versions which are in hippo.
[20:38] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> ah! good ol meld. :) : 
[20:38] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> very underrated.
[20:39] <The_LoudSpeaker> side quest: tsimonq2 the image didn't make it into irc. lugito broke ?
[20:45] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> new system
[20:45] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> matterbridge
[20:45] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> TeleIRC is dead
[20:45] <lubot> [telegram] <wxl23> Still we should come up with something for images https://github.com/42wim/matterbridge/wiki/Mediaserver-setup-%28advanced%29
[20:46] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> i am reading that now
[20:47] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> i'm going toi see if I can make Caddy do S3 too but we'll see.
[20:47] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> may have to spin a new URL for the data though but it might take a day or more, today's one of the "I Have Stuff To Do" days
[20:48] <wxl> might be a way to make imgur or something work
[21:09] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> yeah well i'm looking.  I don't see a mechanism for Caddy to use, but I think Caddy can do stuff like that
[21:10] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Caddy is pretty lacking as far as customization from what I know.
[21:11] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> yeah well
[21:11] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> It ain't your dad's nginx or your granddad's apache.
[21:11] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> they don't give any other alternatives :P
[21:11] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> other than run it on our own infra
[21:11] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> which... isn't hard.
[21:11] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> I hear you
[21:12] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> i can easily spin an NGINX instance to serve the content since it sits on the core infra the DNS already points there.  Just gotta make sure things're passed right.
[21:30] <lubot> [telegram] <profetik777> @kc2bez  or any dev who tracks releases - do you have a doc/template that documents finalized release details/updates/bug fixes? Curious about leveraging template for customers
[21:30] <lubot> [telegram] <profetik777> I know blogs are one place , but anthing else internally?
[21:30] <lubot> [telegram] <profetik777> (that might include ticket#etc)
[21:32] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> @profetik777 we follow this https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/new-release/
[21:33] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Some of what we do is pre-release and some is post-release
[21:34] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Obviously that is pretty specific to our use.
[21:42] <lubot> [telegram] <profetik777> yeah, appreciate it though
[21:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> is debhelper-compat 13 going to be in focal anytime soon?
[21:44] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, @teward golang-github-zyedidia-tcell v 1.4.8 builds fine in focal. 
[21:44] <The_LoudSpeaker> only with the exception of debhelper-compat
[21:44] <The_LoudSpeaker> cc: wxl
[21:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9FSFNPc4TM/
[21:47] <The_LoudSpeaker> SO yes I think we can safely bump this to 1.4.8-2(3) in focal and then SRU micro to 2.0.6-2 in focal.
[21:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> (3) as we will need to modify the debhelper-compat version unless we are hoping to get debhelper-compat 13 in focal soon.
[21:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> what say bhaiya?
[21:57] <teward> debhelper-compat means debhelper
[21:58] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> debhelper can be a pain to backport :P
[22:00] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> That seems like the snowball rolled into an avalanche :P
[22:01] <The_LoudSpeaker> XD
[22:02] <The_LoudSpeaker> hence I said we can do a -3 with a relaxed debhelper dependency 
[22:02] <The_LoudSpeaker> sound good ?
[22:06]  * The_LoudSpeaker goes to sleep. please ping me later here when you are free and can confirm on how to proceed next.