=== jamesh_ is now known as jamesh [16:57] PR snapcraft#3399 opened: cli: do not require snapd deb for assertions [18:21] PR snapd#9804 opened: interfaces/opengl: allow RPi MMAL video decoding [18:36] * ogra would appreciate a soon review on that one ^^^ (though i guess everyone is in holiday mode already ... but it would be nice to have accelerated video playback on the Pi's under christmas trees (i have a matching vlc-pi package too 😉 )) [19:54] ogra looking [19:54] ogra + [19:54] +1 [19:54] lovely ! [19:54] * ogra hugs zyga-mbp [19:54] I just put 20.04 on a new work laptop [19:55] wiped windows clean [19:55] feels good to work native again [19:55] hah [19:55] perfect for all those yocto builds :) [19:55] i havent touched non-ubuntu machines in years ... [19:55] I have enough machines for a while now [19:55] with a work windows and work linux machines [19:55] a personal macbook [19:55] and dual-boot uber desktop [19:56] too many OSes 🙂 [19:56] ogra very yocto of me, no? [19:56] haha, yeah [19:56] but I actually like that, I was always triple-os person I think [19:57] love to look at those little details in the low level APIs across them [19:57] i'm still dreaming of a set of scripts that turn a yocto tree inot gadget and kernel snaps [19:58] probably my next spare time project once i have that vlc-pi thing fully going [19:59] I wonder about non-snap update methods [19:59] what's out there [19:59] though i actually like to weed through the yocto reciepes and deduct the correct snap bits from them [19:59] mender [19:59] but its awful [19:59] what is it like? [19:59] haha [19:59] do you know mborzecki used to work on it? [19:59] you need to patch a lot [19:59] yuck [19:59] hah, no [20:00] they have their own u-boot overlay tree you need to pull in ... then adjust your tree to use their veariables everywhere ... [20:00] is the upgrade driven from uboot or linux? [20:01] ... make your OS layout in a way the mender stuff can handle it ... and then you have something similar to our auto-rollback [20:01] my open harmony work is more complex/messy as updates involve both linux and non-linux kernels [20:01] including "big" kernels and "little" micros [20:01] its similar to our u-boot stuff, but implemented on a way lower level [20:01] (and a lot more complex compared to managing a gadget ) [20:02] and you need a matching partition layout [20:02] is it an image-based A/B model? [20:02] I honestly like the way snaps do it [20:03] it's such a nice blend of A/B images and packages [20:03] not sure about image based ... but yeah, there are "system-a" and "system-b" partitions and such [20:07] it's a finite space for exploration of possible ideas [20:07] :) [20:07] PR snapcraft#3392 closed: plugins v2: add support for out of source tree builds