[16:57] <mup> PR snapcraft#3399 opened: cli: do not require snapd deb for assertions <Created by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3399>
[18:21] <mup> PR snapd#9804 opened: interfaces/opengl: allow RPi MMAL video decoding <Created by ogra1> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/9804>
[18:36]  * ogra would appreciate a soon review on that one ^^^ (though i guess everyone is in holiday mode already ... but it would be nice to have accelerated video playback on the Pi's under christmas trees (i have a matching vlc-pi package too 😉 ))
[19:54] <zyga-mbp> ogra looking
[19:54] <zyga-mbp> ogra +
[19:54] <zyga-mbp> +1
[19:54] <ogra> lovely !
[19:54]  * ogra hugs zyga-mbp 
[19:54] <zyga-mbp> I just put 20.04 on a new work laptop
[19:55] <zyga-mbp> wiped windows clean
[19:55] <zyga-mbp> feels good to work native again
[19:55] <ogra> hah
[19:55] <zyga-mbp> perfect for all those yocto builds :)
[19:55] <ogra> i havent touched non-ubuntu machines in years ...
[19:55] <zyga-mbp> I have enough machines for a while now
[19:55] <zyga-mbp> with a work windows and work linux machines
[19:55] <zyga-mbp> a personal macbook
[19:55] <zyga-mbp> and dual-boot uber desktop
[19:56] <ogra> too many OSes 🙂
[19:56] <zyga-mbp> ogra very yocto of me, no?
[19:56] <ogra> haha, yeah
[19:56] <zyga-mbp> but I actually like that, I was always triple-os person I think
[19:57] <zyga-mbp> love to look at those little details in the low level APIs across them
[19:57] <ogra> i'm still dreaming of a set of scripts that turn a yocto tree inot gadget and kernel snaps
[19:58] <ogra> probably my next spare time project once i have that vlc-pi thing fully going
[19:59] <zyga-mbp> I wonder about non-snap update methods
[19:59] <zyga-mbp> what's out there
[19:59] <ogra> though i actually like to weed through the yocto reciepes and deduct the correct snap bits from them
[19:59] <ogra> mender
[19:59] <ogra> but its awful
[19:59] <zyga-mbp> what is it like?
[19:59] <zyga-mbp> haha
[19:59] <zyga-mbp> do you know mborzecki used to work on it?
[19:59] <ogra> you need to patch a lot
[19:59] <zyga-mbp> yuck
[19:59] <ogra> hah, no
[20:00] <ogra> they have their own u-boot overlay tree you need to pull in ... then adjust your tree to use their veariables everywhere ...
[20:00] <zyga-mbp> is the upgrade driven from uboot or linux?
[20:01] <ogra> ... make your OS layout in a way the mender stuff can handle it ... and then you have something similar to our auto-rollback
[20:01] <zyga-mbp> my open harmony work is more complex/messy as updates involve both linux and non-linux kernels
[20:01] <zyga-mbp> including "big" kernels and "little" micros
[20:01] <ogra> its similar to our u-boot stuff, but implemented on a way lower level
[20:01] <ogra> (and a lot more complex compared to managing a gadget )
[20:02] <ogra> and you need a matching partition layout
[20:02] <zyga-mbp> is it an image-based A/B model?
[20:02] <zyga-mbp> I honestly like the way snaps do it
[20:03] <zyga-mbp> it's such a nice blend of A/B images and packages
[20:03] <ogra> not sure about image based ... but yeah, there are "system-a" and "system-b" partitions and such
[20:07] <zyga-mbp> it's a finite space for exploration of possible ideas
[20:07] <zyga-mbp> :)
[20:07] <mup> PR snapcraft#3392 closed: plugins v2: add support for out of source tree builds <Created by jhenstridge> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/3392>