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lubot[telegram] <teward001> ... i wonder though... if matterbridge can link to a ZNC account for IRC and then the ZNC account handles scrollback and stuff... hmmmmmmmmmmmmm02:47
wxli think i saw someone mentioning as such02:48
lubot[telegram] <teward001> *may or may not have a few tests to do in the near future*02:51
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teward. test17:52
lubot[telegram] <teward001> *MORE TESTS*17:55
tewardgood you're back online welcome back to the warzone lubot17:55
KGIIIBefore I file my test result, when did "picom" show up? I don't recall seeing it before today. Also, it doesn't do anything when I click it - not noticeable. I do see it's a compositor. Compton already exists and is installed, so I dunno what's going on and I figure I'll ask before filing my test results20:20
KGIIIAnd, I have no idea how to test it. With compton, I start a terminal, start compton, and then check to see if transparency works in the terminal. 20:28
lynorianI would testing compton-conf as well to see if like I could change shadow colors20:31
KGIIISure, sure... Just add more stuff to the list! (Duly noted and thanks!)20:33
lynorianif you want to check when something changed apt changelog is also your friend to see changes but sometimes doesn't list all upstream stuff20:35
KGIIIHmm... That was no help this time. Thanks. I'm just gonna let them figure it out and file my test results.20:40
lubot[telegram] <Leokolb> saw that also on Hirsute daily iso 21.12.20 — are not picom and compton the same thing? Need some clarification.. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <KGIII> Before I file my test result, when did "picom" show up? I don't recall seeing it before today. Also, it doesn't do anything when I click it - not noticeable. I do see it's a compositor. Compton already exists and is installed, so I dunno what's going on and I figure I'll ask before fil21:00
wxlpicom is a fork of comptom more or less21:00
wxlit can be considered the more updated and more maintained compton21:01
KGIIISo, will compton be going away, or is this just a test to see if it's actually better, or? Also, do I test it in a similar manner?21:02
wxlit should be equivalent to compton21:02
wxland yes we'd like compton to go away21:02
lubot[telegram] <Leokolb> ok tks21:02
KGIIIThanks! 21:02
wxli didn't know we had seeded picom but that's cool21:05
wxlweird that we're ALSO seeding compton but whatever21:05
wxlso a couple things to know:21:05
wxlif one of them is running, you won't be able to run another one21:05
KGIIIThey're both in there in today's .iso.21:05
wxli.e. if compton is running, you won't be able to run picom and vice versa21:05
wxlsecondly, there are a bunch of config options that have been removed in picom21:06
wxlpicom still reads $HOME/compton.conf21:06
wxlbut if one of those config options is in there, it will not run21:06
wxlideally when you run it, you should run it from the command line and it will tell you21:06
wxlthen just edit the configuration and comment out the particular line21:07
KGIIIShould I bother testing compton any longer?21:07
wxli wouldn't21:07
KGIIIThanks. That'll make it easier.21:07
wxloh jeez21:08
wxlthe seed is on groovy21:08
KGIIII can say with great certainty that I had nothing to do with it!21:09
KGIIIAlso, I'll update my test results. picom works as expected.21:12
wxlomg21:17
wxlwho came up with this idea21:18
wxlpicom is a recommend to compton X''''D21:18
wxlso it looks like we're going to have to have them both, especially with compton-conf depending on compton21:18
KGIIIOnce again, I can say I had nothing to do with it! (Though that seems kinda silly if one is to replace the other. But, what do I know?)21:27
RyuKurisu[m]<wxl "picom still reads $HOME/compton."> That needs to change ASAP!  Where can I file a bug or better yet make a pull request? 21:45
KGIIII have just learned the magic of the manifest (thanks to guiverc). I feel like a magician!21:45
guivercKGIII, double-check everything I say... I just made a mess elsewhere..21:46
KGIIILOL If it doesn't work, I'll just bug you again. I ain't scared!21:46
wxlRyuKurisu[m]: that's not a bug that it reads compton.conf21:48
RyuKurisu[m]No, but it is highly annoying to have a  separate compton.conf for picom which you've have to switch out when trying it out.22:07
RyuKurisu[m]I don't think it should be different layout or internal naming, but a separate file would be very nice.22:08
wxlno what's annoying is that compton still exists22:15
wxlit needs to die22:15
KGIIIIt has to be better than xcompmgr, which is what I have installed on my 18.04 boxes. I really put no effort into that one. It leaves artifacts and I just kinda live with 'em. They're small things like window shadows existing after the apps are closed or moved. I never bothered finding a better one. Now that I'm moving to 20.04, I don't have to!22:43

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