 ... i wonder though... if matterbridge can link to a ZNC account for IRC and then the ZNC account handles scrollback and stuff... hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:48] <wxl> i think i saw someone mentioning as such
 *may or may not have a few tests to do in the near future*
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[17:52] <teward> . test
 *MORE TESTS*
[17:55] <teward> good you're back online welcome back to the warzone lubot
[20:20] <KGIII> Before I file my test result, when did "picom" show up? I don't recall seeing it before today. Also, it doesn't do anything when I click it - not noticeable. I do see it's a compositor. Compton already exists and is installed, so I dunno what's going on and I figure I'll ask before filing my test results
[20:28] <KGIII> And, I have no idea how to test it. With compton, I start a terminal, start compton, and then check to see if transparency works in the terminal. 
[20:31] <lynorian> I would testing compton-conf as well to see if like I could change shadow colors
[20:33] <KGIII> Sure, sure... Just add more stuff to the list! (Duly noted and thanks!)
[20:35] <lynorian> if you want to check when something changed apt changelog is also your friend to see changes but sometimes doesn't list all upstream stuff
[20:40] <KGIII> Hmm... That was no help this time. Thanks. I'm just gonna let them figure it out and file my test results.
 saw that also on Hirsute daily iso 21.12.20 — are not picom and compton the same thing? Need some clarification.. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <KGIII> Before I file my test result, when did "picom" show up? I don't recall seeing it before today. Also, it doesn't do anything when I click it - not noticeable. I do see it's a compositor. Compton already exists and is installed, so I dunno what's going on and I figure I'll ask before fil
[21:00] <wxl> picom is a fork of comptom more or less
[21:01] <wxl> it can be considered the more updated and more maintained compton
[21:02] <KGIII> So, will compton be going away, or is this just a test to see if it's actually better, or? Also, do I test it in a similar manner?
[21:02] <wxl> it should be equivalent to compton
[21:02] <wxl> and yes we'd like compton to go away
 ok tks
[21:02] <KGIII> Thanks! 
[21:05] <wxl> i didn't know we had seeded picom but that's cool
[21:05] <wxl> weird that we're ALSO seeding compton but whatever
[21:05] <wxl> so a couple things to know:
[21:05] <wxl> if one of them is running, you won't be able to run another one
[21:05] <KGIII> They're both in there in today's .iso.
[21:05] <wxl> i.e. if compton is running, you won't be able to run picom and vice versa
[21:06] <wxl> secondly, there are a bunch of config options that have been removed in picom
[21:06] <wxl> picom still reads $HOME/compton.conf
[21:06] <wxl> but if one of those config options is in there, it will not run
[21:06] <wxl> ideally when you run it, you should run it from the command line and it will tell you
[21:07] <wxl> then just edit the configuration and comment out the particular line
[21:07] <KGIII> Should I bother testing compton any longer?
[21:07] <wxl> i wouldn't
[21:07] <KGIII> Thanks. That'll make it easier.
[21:08] <wxl> oh jeez
[21:08] <wxl> the seed is on groovy
[21:09] <KGIII> I can say with great certainty that I had nothing to do with it!
[21:12] <KGIII> Also, I'll update my test results. picom works as expected.
[21:17] <wxl> omg
[21:18] <wxl> who came up with this idea
[21:18] <wxl> picom is a recommend to compton X''''D
[21:18] <wxl> so it looks like we're going to have to have them both, especially with compton-conf depending on compton
[21:27] <KGIII> Once again, I can say I had nothing to do with it! (Though that seems kinda silly if one is to replace the other. But, what do I know?)
[21:45] <RyuKurisu[m]> <wxl "picom still reads $HOME/compton."> That needs to change ASAP!  Where can I file a bug or better yet make a pull request? 
[21:45] <KGIII> I have just learned the magic of the manifest (thanks to guiverc). I feel like a magician!
[21:46] <guiverc> KGIII, double-check everything I say... I just made a mess elsewhere..
[21:46] <KGIII> LOL If it doesn't work, I'll just bug you again. I ain't scared!
[21:48] <wxl> RyuKurisu[m]: that's not a bug that it reads compton.conf
[22:07] <RyuKurisu[m]> No, but it is highly annoying to have a  separate compton.conf for picom which you've have to switch out when trying it out.
[22:08] <RyuKurisu[m]> I don't think it should be different layout or internal naming, but a separate file would be very nice.
[22:15] <wxl> no what's annoying is that compton still exists
[22:15] <wxl> it needs to die
[22:43] <KGIII> It has to be better than xcompmgr, which is what I have installed on my 18.04 boxes. I really put no effort into that one. It leaves artifacts and I just kinda live with 'em. They're small things like window shadows existing after the apps are closed or moved. I never bothered finding a better one. Now that I'm moving to 20.04, I don't have to!