[00:29] <Fevix> I have a game installed that I'm trying to uninstall. Right clicking on it in the applications menu and selecting 'show details' brings up Software, but tells me there are no details available. I've tried to run apt remove with the package name, but it tells me there's no such package installed, and yet the game is certainly installed and can run
[00:30] <oerheks> how did you install it? as  a snap, perhaps?
[00:30] <Fevix> I don't know. POssibly
[00:30] <oerheks> 'snap list' in terminal
[00:30] <Fevix> apt list mars* brings up both the game package and the game data package, marsshooter and marsshooter-data
[00:31] <oerheks> sudo snap remove marsthingy
[00:31] <Fevix> thanks, it looks like it's actually uninstalling this time
[00:31] <oerheks> oke, have fun!
[00:33] <Fevix> also fwiw it might still be best practice but with the snap command it still asks for sudo password
[00:33] <Fevix> so you only have to do snap remove
[00:36] <oerheks> No, still asks password.
[00:36] <Fevix> It still asks password but you don't have to preface with sudo
[00:37] <oerheks> but after 1 sudo comand, the environment stays open for a few minutes, so next sudo does not ask it.
[00:37] <oerheks> oh, i get your point
[00:37] <oerheks> yes, indeed.
[01:40] <twb> Ubuntu LTS live media can do ZFS, but last time I looked they're ZFS 0.8
[01:40] <twb> ZFS 2.0 introduces Zstd support, which is Super Nice.  Do/will 20.04 media support ZFS 2?
[01:41] <twb> (Or would I have to grab 21.04 or something)
[01:51] <tomreyn> twb: OpenZFS 2.0.0 (which i' *guessing* you're referring to) only released 20 days ago. the latest ubuntu release is 20.10, which, as the version name indicates, released in october.
[01:51] <tomreyn> !latest
[01:53] <twb> Yeah understood.  I guess I thought Canonical might make an exception :-)
[01:54] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1
[01:54] <tomreyn> but so far, hirsuite has 0.8.4
[01:55] <tomreyn> there could be a !ppa or other third party repository, or a snap
[01:55] <twb> likewise in Debian (see rmadison)
[01:55] <tomreyn> just did :)
[01:56] <twb> But Canonical's doing legally dubious stuff with zfs drivers so I *assume* they're not just pulling zfs-dkms from debian
[01:56] <tomreyn> !discuss
[02:08] <Deyaa> Why can't I put underscore in hostname??
[02:11] <tomreyn> Deyaa: on ubuntu, or on debian, or on something else?
[02:13] <kk4ewt> because it doesnt follow the fqdn spec
[02:13] <oerheks> Valid characters for hostnames are ASCII from a to z, the digits from 0 to 9, and the hyphen (-).  A hostname may not start with a hyphen.
[02:15] <Deyaa> tomreyn: Debian
[02:17] <usb_destroyer> hello guys
[02:17] <Deyaa> kk4ewt:  oerheks it's a little bit strange that android phones support putting underscores in hostname? I thought it's normal.
[02:18] <usb_destroyer> I'm having some headaches with usb drives.
[02:18] <usb_destroyer> Crazy stuff.
[02:21] <twb> Deyaa: FWIW underscore is not valid in a DNS A/AAAA RR
[02:21] <twb> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc952
[02:21] <Maik> !ask | usb_destroyer
[02:22] <oerheks> try to connect to it, and file a bug with android.
[02:22] <usb_destroyer> ubottu, I know, I'm trying to paste the command outputs
[02:22] <usb_destroyer> http://0x0.st/iCAg.txt
[02:22] <usb_destroyer> there you go
[02:22] <twb> Deyaa: old version of ISC BIND named would allow it; I haven't retested since 2010.
[02:23] <usb_destroyer> !patience
[02:25] <usb_destroyer> the USB drive is actually 8GB
[02:25] <twb> usb_destroyer: what is the actual fault?
[02:25] <usb_destroyer> for some reason gdisk and fdisk only see that after I zeroed the first sectors, because it was only seeing 4GB
[02:26] <usb_destroyer> twb, I cannot use GParted or other gdisk, or fdisk, because of this.
[02:26] <twb> usb_destroyer: is it a "name brand" USB key, or a 10 RMB one from a street vendor?
[02:26] <usb_destroyer> 8GB kingston
[02:26] <twb> usb_destroyer: does this fault affect all your USB keys, or only a specific subset?
[02:27] <usb_destroyer> well, I have another kingston usb drive, but it is more damaged
[02:27] <twb> usb_destroyer: does the fault appear reliably on all USB ports / computers?
[02:27] <usb_destroyer> yes
[02:28] <usb_destroyer> the funny thing is, I can format it on a FreeBSD system, and it works on ubuntu!
[02:28] <twb> usb_destroyer: it sounds to me like the FTL is irreperably damaged on that specific key, and it should just be thrown away.  If you can't afford that, try using blkdiscard and/or wipefs to try to reset the parts you can reset.
[02:28] <usb_destroyer> But gdisk, fdisk, gparted, all of them see it wrong.
[02:29] <usb_destroyer> I used wipefs, and it removed the EFI partition and a FreeBSD label that were left there for some reason.
[02:29] <usb_destroyer> that was nice but didn't solve the problem
[02:30] <usb_destroyer> What blows my mind is that Nemo sees the USB drive as it is: 8GB with a FAT32 partition.
[02:30] <usb_destroyer> but gdisk, fdisk, and gparted struggle to see anything real
[02:30] <tomreyn> Deyaa: surprisingly, #ubuntu is not for debian support
[02:34] <usb_destroyer> So how is it possible that I can plug this USB drive and write and read from it, and the file explorer sees it as it is, with a MBR and FAT32 partition and all... but partition tools see what I posted?
[02:34] <usb_destroyer> they were previously seeing 4GB, then I zeroed up to sector 32.
[02:35] <usb_destroyer> Then they see what I posted.
[02:35] <usb_destroyer> now they see that.
[02:35] <usb_destroyer> http://0x0.st/iCAg.txt
[02:38] <twb> usb_destroyer: a replacement 8G key is $5; we've already wasted more man-hours than that.  This isn't worth discussing further.
[02:39] <usb_destroyer> twb, my salary is literally zero, twb, thank very much for your advice
[02:40] <usb_destroyer> I'm glad to know that you got a job, I don't.
[02:40] <usb_destroyer> I don't have one.
[02:40] <usb_destroyer> $5 is food for one week to me.
[02:41] <oerheks> ubuntu does not fix broken usb drives.
[02:41] <usb_destroyer> oerheks, fdisk and gdisk are for what then?
[03:02] <Nelluk> trying to find the correct way to set my DNS server on ubuntu server 20.04. should i be using netplan? my /etc/netplan dir is empty which contradicts all the tutorials i can find :/
[03:19] <usb_destroyer> Even more interesting, I just did a `dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=16MB` and guess what... it runs out of space at 4GB, but the file explorer still mounts and sees the FAT32 partition and its files in it!
[03:19] <usb_destroyer> wtf!
[03:19] <usb_destroyer> and the 8GB free space too!
[03:24] <twb> Sounds like your file manager (or udisks2) is broken
[03:24] <twb> Note that you can simply do "cp /dev/zero /dev/disk/by-id/usb-KINGSTON-aaaaaaa" instead of fine-tuning block sizes with dd
[03:26] <usb_destroyer> hmmm, haven't thought of that, twb , thanks
[03:30] <usb_destroyer> file manager works, I can write files, copy, delete... everything works fine.
[03:31] <usb_destroyer> dd, gdisk, fdisk, gparted... they all see 4GB max
[03:35] <usb_destroyer> besides, they error out when trying to format or anything
[03:35] <usb_destroyer> but file manager works just fine, on 8GB, FAT32, normal
[04:54] <usb_destroyer> ok, look at this: http://0x0.st/iCmT.txt
[04:54] <usb_destroyer> However gparted, dd, gdisk, fdisk, they only see half of the size
[04:57] <friv> my touchpad taps are not working on new ubuntu 20 installation. what should I do?
[04:58] <oerheks> Size:                       7743995904
[04:58] <matsaman> friv: upgraded from some older version of Ubuntu where it worked?
[04:58] <friv> matsaman, yup, actually it was working previously in ubuntu 20 as well
[04:59] <twb> friv: use "xinput" CLI tool to debug maybe
[04:59] <matsaman> friv: previous to what?
[04:59] <friv> twb, it shows the touchpad listed yes
[04:59] <friv> matsaman, previous to the current installation
[05:01] <matsaman> friv: oh you had 20 and then reinstalled it for some reason?
[05:01] <matsaman> friv: was the old version from an upgrade or was freshly 20?
[05:02] <friv> both were freshly installed
[05:02] <friv> i need to relog 1 se
[05:02] <friv> 1sec*
[05:03] <cloudcell> hello, when I try to copy files from my local computer to a remote server, mc says "operation not permitted". how can I fix this?
[05:04] <friv> after relog they are working
[05:04] <friv> solved I guess
[05:04] <friv> thanks
[05:05] <matsaman> friv: hrmm
[05:05] <matsaman> friv: sometimes if you have the wrong thing on your touchpad
[05:06] <matsaman> like some oil or fluid or it just booted up with something interfering with it, it can be confused for the duration of the session
[05:06] <matsaman> cloudcell: using mc as an ftp client, you mean?
[05:06] <cloudcell> yes matsaman
[05:06] <friv> interesting
[05:07] <matsaman> pretty unavoidable potential problem with _touch_ pads
[05:07] <matsaman> (that is, modern touchpads that support gestures and don't need to actually be depressed)
[05:08] <friv> ok
[05:14] <cloudcell> can anybody help? matsaman ?
[05:30] <usb_destroyer> ok, this is weird
[05:30] <usb_destroyer> I used gnome disk utility and tried to restore a disk image with it, on this broken pendrive
[05:30] <usb_destroyer> it gave me an error
[05:30] <usb_destroyer> but after that, now I can format it!
[05:31] <usb_destroyer> I mounted the formatted partition, and a weird "loop device" appears, and I can mount it as many times as I want, it keeps adding it as if they were new different disks.
[05:57] <Rexodus> For those who want to know: Alfa devices don't ever lock to whatever it is. No country, no TX-power. I wrote them a mail and they are lightningfast with an answer. It boils down to this tutor: https://miloserdov.org/?p=337 So, if you don't get it to work it must be something else. And I'm about to find out what. May take a year or 2 though...
[05:57] <m0rd3cai> Hope someone can help. successfully updated openssl to 1.1.1c and openvpn didnt recognize the new version. I still have openssl installed through dpkg but if i remove openssl over 600mb in packages will be removed which I dont want
[05:58] <m0rd3cai> on stackfault someone had the same problem. The verified answer was an 'export' command. now openssl version -a doesnt return a response.
[06:36] <Rexodus> And I can add to this, the aircrack drivers from github don't allow TX power regulation. It's locked to 20 dBm.
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> Rexodus: maybe a topic for #ubuntu-discuss ?
[06:42] <Rexodus> lotuspsyc: this discussion whas here a couple of days ago. That's why I started my previous comment the way I did.
[06:43] <Rexodus> previous 2 comments... ;]
[06:43] <Rexodus> Don't remember who participated back then...
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> Rexodus: lets keep space free to ubuntu issues here please, we try to divide support with discussions here
[06:44] <Rexodus> Sure babe, whatever you want.
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> hump in -discuss and we can rant all day babe
[06:45] <Rexodus> Was no rant! But you don't seem to understand that. Discussion closed.
[06:59] <vpathak> hello - i was attempting to add a "memo"s account in evolutiom.  i can see there are web and caldav choices.  but i havent been able to run it with a web provider (eg google).  i am willing to host my own server (for myself) but i'd like to know what kind of server evolution expects (to be provided in caldav or web).  thank you!
[07:05] <oerheks> its a good thing, no TX power messing up.
[07:05] <matsaman> vpathak: like, gmail?
[07:31] <kostadin[m]> I am experiencing a bug on Ubuntu 20.04 where input settings are not getting applied for a USB keyboard and a touchpad. The settings work fine for the laptop's input devices. Any idea which package I should file a bug report against?
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> kostadin[m]: perhaps xinput, check the recent bugs here before you file one; https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xinput/+bugs?field.tag=ubuntu&orderby=importance&start=0
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> kostadin[m]: if you cant find a related one for your case, file a new !bug with; ubuntu-bug xinput
[07:34] <matsaman> kostadin[m]: which settings are we talking about?
[07:36]  * kostadin[m] sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/QUfsEunoLyPOFtYGeIrvdAnS/message.txt >
[07:38] <matsaman> kostadin[m]: mmm
[07:38] <matsaman> well, if there are no side-effects you mind, a really easy hack to deal with it would be to just run those commands at each X start
[07:38] <matsaman> via ~/.config/autostart/ or whatever your session manager has
[07:39] <kostadin[m]> matsaman: this basically happens when I dock/undock my laptop so not really useful to run at autostart.
[07:40] <matsaman> https://superuser.com/questions/90657/find-out-if-laptop-is-docked-in-linux
[07:42] <kostadin[m]> matsaman: thanks for the suggestion
[07:43] <kostadin[m]> lotuspsychje: will file a bug on xinput, thanks
[07:43] <matsaman> kostadin[m]: some interesting things here also: http://google.com/search?q=dock+keyboard+site%3Aubuntuforums.org
[07:44] <kostadin[m]> matsaman:
[07:44] <kostadin[m]>  * matsaman: it's not dock related. If you just plug the touchpad directly to USB it's the same behaviour
[07:45] <matsaman> still, there's stuff about kernel prefs for USB multi input
[07:45] <matsaman> anyway
[08:28] <Mysia> hello i need some help
[08:28] <Mysia> im getting a systemd error on the openvpn start command
[08:28] <Mysia> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CqEwU04A/
[08:38] <juliandroske> Are these texts the full output of systemd?
[08:48] <daregap> Good morning. What is the proper way to enable TRIM passthrough on a dm-crypt device? A) Set "discard" option in /etc/crypttab, B) Add "allow-discards" in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/default/grub, C) Add "rd.luks.options=discard" or "rd.luks.allow-discards" options somewhere or D) Something else?
[08:52] <Mysia> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HH8NciPk/
[09:17] <BlueEagle> exut
[09:19] <BlueEagle> Sorry, wrong window. :)
[10:09] <g105b> Hi all, I have suffered a gfx card failure and after replacing, I can't boot ubuntu - Windows is installed on another HDD and it's taken over. Any ideas?
[10:09] <matsaman> g105b: you must've done something other than replace the gfx card
[10:10] <matsaman> g105b: anyway: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[10:10] <g105b> matsaman: boot failure many times, which caused windows to freak out
[10:11] <g105b> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4bNgYYZrXx/
[10:12] <g105b> I would like it to boot to sdc which is the physical disk with ubuntu on (pop os)
[10:14] <matsaman> g105b: if you disconnect the sata cable going to SATA1, what happens?
[10:15] <g105b> matsaman: I get an error, Please insert a bootable medium and reboot.
[10:16] <g105b> Sorry, no that's if I try to boot to that drive from bios - if I disconnect the sata cable, I get a windows recovery error saying a required device has been disconnected.
[10:18] <g105b> I've just run boot-repair from the live usb, I will reboot to see where i get to...
[10:20] <g105b> ... switched to my laptop for IRC. That was a bit silly of me logging in on the live USB.
[10:22] <g105b> boot-repair did nothing :(
[10:22] <matsaman> well your paste says it's using efi, AFAICT, so not sure why you'd try with 'BIOS'
[10:23] <g105b> I meant when I press F11 at the start of the boot - is this not BIOS?
[10:23] <matsaman> sounds like the 'boot menu' shortcut
[10:23] <matsaman> for picking a device to boot from?
[10:24] <matsaman> the firmware configurator, though, I know what you're referring to
[10:24] <g105b> Yeah that's what I mean, I can access it from the BIOS screen too so I thought it was the same thing.
[10:24] <g105b> I'm not sure what to do at all, Windows won't boot either but I don't care about that too much.
[10:25] <ygk_12345> hi all
[10:25] <ygk_12345> can someone help with pxe boot istallation of ubuntu 20.04 ?
[10:26] <ygk_12345> i am trying this https://butwt.wordpress.com/2020/06/29/pxe-booting-ubuntu-20-04-installer/   but it is still asking for option during boot time
[10:26] <ygk_12345> i have provided the user-data file as well
[10:28] <matsaman> g105b: I thought you said Windows was booting
[10:28] <ygk_12345> can anyone help me please with pxe boot setup for installing ubuntu 20.04 ?
[10:29] <g105b> matsaman: Windows is booting into its recovery crap that does nothing
[10:29] <g105b> matsaman: I am under the belief that the Windows repair thing has tried "fixing" things for me by stomping over my boot records.
[10:30] <matsaman> g105b: don't think Windows would do that for sdc
[10:30] <matsaman> g105b: what if you unplug all sata cables but the one for sdc, and hook that one up to SATA1?
[10:31] <g105b> matsaman: I've just tried it, and I get the "No bootable medium" error at the POST screen.
[10:31] <g105b> If I look at the boot-repair logs, it says that there is only one OS detected, on sda
[10:31] <matsaman> that makes sense, if the Ubuntu disk is plugged into SATA1
[10:32] <matsaman> g105b: anyway, try the other process at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows the one that isn't 'boot-repair'
[10:33] <g105b> matsaman: ah, thank you
[10:33] <ygk_12345> any familiar with ubuntu pxe installation ?
[10:33] <ygk_12345> *anyone
[10:33] <ygk_12345> ?
[10:34] <g105b> ygk_12345: sorry I tried it once and nothing worked so I put it down to me not being clever enough to understand it
[10:36] <g105b> matsaman: if I type `grub-install /dev/sdc` I get an error saying "failed to get canonical path of /cow"
[10:36] <ygk_12345> g105b does it work at all with ubuntu 20.04 ?
[10:38] <matsaman> g105b: /cow?
[10:38] <ygk_12345> anyone here who knows about pxe installation of ubuntu 20.04 ?
[10:39] <g105b> matsaman: yep, that's what it's saying to me.
[10:40] <g105b> and I'm no farmer
[10:40] <matsaman> heh
[10:41] <matsaman> g105b: that's as root?
[10:41] <g105b> Yep
[10:43] <matsaman> g105b: is that with only the one drive plugged into SATA1?
[10:43] <g105b> No, it's plugged in as normal currently.
[10:43] <g105b> I'll try again with only that drive plugged in.
[10:44] <g105b> Although, I'm getting close to just throwing the whole thing out of the window.
[10:44] <matsaman> mmm, that would eliminate variables, if you plug in only the drive you're dealing with for Ubuntu, and refer to it as sda
[10:49] <g105b> Weirdly, on what was /dev/sdc2 there is a lot of Windows looking files, as if it's actually been overwritten by Windows!
[10:50] <g105b> On that disk there is a $RECYCLE.BIN and System Volume Information directory.
[10:50] <g105b> That's all alongside a casper, dists and pool directory with Linuxy things in. I think something's really borked, and it's looking like a reinstall will be needed. There goes my productivity.
[10:51] <EriC^^> hi g105b
[10:51] <EriC^^> looking at your boot repair log..
[10:52] <g105b> Shall I run another one, just in case I've messed things up since then?
[10:53] <matsaman> g105b: what partition are the OS files on?
[10:53] <EriC^^> no
[10:53] <g105b> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TbT9HSk3bG
[10:54] <g105b> sda is Windows - sdb is a big old disk of data - sdc is my Linux install
[10:54] <matsaman> g105b: sdc3?
[10:54] <matsaman> says it's encrypted
[10:54] <EriC^^> g105b: it looks like sda and sdb are gpt partitioned, so that means windows would only boot in uefi mode
[10:55] <EriC^^> g105b: what does 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999' give you?
[10:58] <g105b> EFI variables are not supported on this system.
[10:58] <g105b> EriC^^ ^
[10:58] <EriC^^> g105b: reboot the live usb in uefi mode to troubleshoot
[10:59] <g105b> I need to learn how to do that first.
[10:59] <EriC^^> g105b: in the one time boot menu there should be a USB and UEFI USB, choose the latter
[10:59] <g105b> ah ok, bear with me
[12:28] <iekfkk> hi
[12:29] <iekfkk> xkbset ma 60 10 10 20 10 ; doesn't works with shift+numlock
[13:40] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:28] <Seveas> Howdy!
[14:31] <coconut> Hey Seveas :)
[15:07] <rapidwave> I'm trying to run 'npm run serve' and it's saying I've reached limit of number of watchers. How do I resolve this?
[15:13] <kk1502> hello
[15:14] <Maik> kk1502: hi
[15:43] <bittin_> Hello, anyone have DKMS modules for zfs for the 5.10 kernels ? on Ubuntu
[15:48] <bittin> also my computer crashed so missed if anyone wrote something
[15:48] <coconut> nothing said here bittin
[15:48] <bittin> okay
[15:53] <bittin> according to the #zfsonlinux people the kernel modules for ZFS needs to updated so are stuck on a 5.9 kernel for now
[16:52] <vpathak> hello - i was attempting to add a "memo"s account in evolutiom.  i can see there are web and caldav choices.  but i havent been able to run it with a web provider (eg google).  i am willing to host my own server (for myself) but i'd like to know what kind of server evolution expects (to be provided in caldav or web).  thank you - help is much appreciated!
[17:04] <newdimension> Anyone know if there is a channel for Clonezilla support?
[17:05] <coconut> newdimension, do a /msg alis list clonezilla
[17:06] <newdimension> coconut: I didn't know about that, thank you!
[17:06] <newdimension> The channel seems dead though :.
[17:06] <newdimension> *:/
[17:07] <coconut> true, not a big channel
[17:08] <hofer> newdemension: if you have a question? ask it.
[17:09] <hofer> newdimension: if you have a question? ask it.
[17:10] <newdimension> When running clonezilla I'm getting /dev/sedb1 is scheduled for a check or it was shutdown uncleanly. Please boot Windows or fix it by fsck
[17:10] <newdimension> I booted the harddrive into windows and shut it down but I still got the same error
[17:12] <leftyfb> newdimension: boot into windows, run a chkdisk /y /f and reboot ... do this process TWICE
[17:12] <leftyfb> sorry, /r /f
[17:12] <leftyfb> newdimension: run that against any drive that is complaining with NTFS btw
[17:13] <newdimension> How comes this needs to happen twice?
[17:15] <leftyfb> newdimension: I don't know. But there's plenty of posts online suggesting it as a remedy and it has worked for me in the past
[17:15] <leftyfb> newdimension: if you need more detail than that, ask in #windows
[17:18] <coconut> newdimension, there is something in the news about chkdisk on windows 10 after an update. I would first check that before doing chkdisk.
[17:25] <eoli3n> Hi
[17:25] <eoli3n> i need latest hplip on ubuntu focal
[17:26] <eoli3n> hplip installer in broken since ubuntu moved defaultly to python3
[17:26] <leftyfb> !latest | eoli3n
[17:26] <eoli3n> and ?
[17:27] <eoli3n> is there a way to install latest hplip ?
[17:29] <dob1> anyway gnome shell, well it's good, nice looking ... but it crashs a lot
[17:29] <dob1> not a good experience
[17:29] <leftyfb> eoli3n: the latest hplip for focal is 3.20.3+dfsg0-2. If you need a version newer than that, you can look for a PPA or hplip's website; https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing. Neither of these 2 latter options are supported here.
[17:29] <dob1> instead of adding 200 things to it try to make it stable
[17:30] <coconut> eoli3n, there is if you go to the website of hp(a script), but you are basicly on your own with that here.
[17:30] <MrKeuner> Hi everyone. I have been using Ubuntu since its inception. This particular workstation was installed in 2014 if I'm not mistaken. SInce then I have been upgrading. 20.04 was working fine for me until recently when I decided to finally do a fresh installation. I did a minimum installation so that I could install whatever is really necessary. I observe rather high load averages on the workstation. Any clues? I saw that snap may be causing this
[17:30] <MrKeuner> slowness. Any suggestions?
[17:31] <leftyfb> MrKeuner: Try installing the latest video drivers
[17:31] <coconut> eoli3n, here -> https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/gethplip
[17:31] <coconut> eoli3n, but best to just install from the repo
[17:31] <MrKeuner> leftyfb, I'll try that. Thank you.
[17:33] <eoli3n> coconut as said, official installer is broken
[17:33] <eoli3n> since ubuntu moved to python3
[17:34] <coconut> oh, i see
[17:34] <coconut> best to report a bug then i guess
[17:38] <eoli3n> i found a ppa
[17:40] <coconut> eoli3n, great but if you have the time please still do a bug report, otherwise ubuntu packagers won't even notice the problem.
[17:54] <Younder> Why cant I user readelf to get the structure of the linuc kernel. I mean I know it has a different magic number, but it basically has a elf format.
[17:56] <Younder> For a description of the linux kernel image format 'https://www.programmersought.com/article/54203146457/'
[18:00] <Younder> Moving a Jetson Xavier development board to a auvidea X220 board. And it has a Image file and device tree (dtb dir), but this will be overwritten during updates. Work  to be done! Any recomendations?
[18:03] <Younder> I should say I install the operationg system on the developemen board then move xavier module to the x220. As is ethernet, the HDMI work but USB is down and out. They offer a Linux image and device tree but I have to install it myself and this would not play well with the update manager.
[18:43] <davido_> How do I determine what is driving up load? It doesn't appear to be CPU. But when I returned to my computer after sitting awake overnight its load average was 18,21,21, and I couldn't even use sudo (unresponsive to sudo)
[18:52] <zerohour999> Does anyone know how to recover a LUKS encrypted partition from a recently formatted hard drive? A family member unplugged my WD elements drive from my ubuntu rpi server and reformatted it because it was a linux filesystem. I just found it last night now formatted as NTFS over what was an ext4 LUKS volume originally. What steps can I take to
[18:52] <zerohour999> recover this? If I can at least get it recovered enough to open the backup tarball in the volume I should be able to recover all of the data.
[19:00] <leftyfb> zerohour999: recovery is highly unlikely
[19:00] <leftyfb> zerohour999: better off just restoring from backup. If that was the backup, then re-backup to it from the original source files.
[19:02] <Younder> The moral here is to always keep a backup in another location as well as a local one.
[19:02] <zerohour999> @leftyfb I'm willing to try anything, my last backup that I have a copy of on my own computer is two months old. Is it possible to maybe restore files from the cache of nextcloud? I was thinking about reading the logfile to check everything I've uploaded since then and attempting something from there, but I can't imagine that would do much beside
[19:02] <zerohour999> tell me all the files I lost
[19:03] <leftyfb> zerohour999: that would be a question for #nextcloud
[19:05] <zerohour999> Right, nonetheless should I attempt reformatting the drive as ext4 and trying to recover the data that way, or is it almost guaranteed failure because it was a LUKS volume?
[19:06] <leftyfb> zerohour999: the more changes you make to that drive, the less likely you are to recover anything
[19:06] <davido_> There are professional data recovery services.
[19:06] <leftyfb> zerohour999: if the data is that important, then you need to contact a data recovery company. Expect to pay thousands of dollars
[19:06] <davido_> But agreed; the more you alter, the more you lose.
[19:08] <EriC^^> zerohour999: what's the problem?
[19:08] <zerohour999> EriC^^ what do you mean?
[19:09] <leftyfb> EriC^^: LUKS partition that was formatted to NTFS. They want to recover the original LUKS
[19:09] <EriC^^> zerohour999: what's your issue, i just joined so there's no backlog to read
[19:09] <EriC^^> oh, thanks leftyfb
[19:09] <leftyfb> there's really no coming back from that, not with the data encrypted.
[19:09] <TJ-> zerohour999: you did do a dump backup of the LUKS header when it was created didn't you?
[19:10] <zerohour999> I believe so, it's been quite some time since I set up the server originally
[19:10] <Younder> davido_, A professional data recovery service would go ever sector vy sector and find data in segments if it is in ascii text for you might bee able to puzzle the pieces back together. Bit really yo have basically taken the disk to the shredder and you have to piece together the strips.
[19:12] <davido_> Younder: I totally agree. But I think that it's beyond what can be fixed in #ubuntu, and that a professional service is about as close as he could come to getting it back. But I think it's a lost cause. a LUKS partition is encrypted. It's already not plain text. Format something else over it, and you lose the semantics that would be needed to decrypt it.
[19:13] <dexter> hi! are there any other terminal file editing tools i should be aware of? for example, cut is a really handy tool. right now i want to insert a comma at the end of each line, how would i approach that?
[19:13] <leftyfb> dexter: sed
[19:14] <dexter> sed, i heard about that, never used it, let me investigate a bit!
[19:14] <leftyfb> dexter: you should look up "bash basics" on google
[19:14] <dexter> i know how to do that with bash scripting
[19:14] <dexter> i can write basic bash scripts too
[19:15] <dexter> I dont know any awk though
[19:15] <davido_> perl -nle 'print "$_,"' filename
[19:15] <TJ-> To be clear, with LUKS, once the 4KiB header is overwritten without backup the data is gone
[19:16] <leftyfb> dexter: if you haven't used sed, then you still have a long way to go with bash scripting
[19:16] <dexter> haha, yeah fair enough, i primarily use bash for automation, rarely over 80 LoC
[19:17] <dexter> i prefer programming in C, bash is purely for lazy automation for me, until now, gotta learn some sed
[19:17] <zutat> no bash script should exceed 80 loc :P
[19:18] <leftyfb> my backup script is about 400 lines
[19:18] <zerohour999> @TJ- understandable. I had a cronjob to run weekly backups on the drive so I at least have a list of the files, if I restore my october backup, what's the easiest way to run a comparison to see what lines of text (aka files) are missing between the old backup?
[19:18] <dexter> upon reading the basics of sed, i get the idea that (n)vi(m) uses a lot of sed in the background, or at least the same syntax
[19:19] <Younder> dexter, same syntax, yes
[19:19] <leftyfb> zerohour999: rsync dryrun
[19:20] <dexter> all my life i've been told that the plural of regex is regrets, and now i'm told to learn sed, which uses alot of regex ^-^
[19:21] <zerohour999> @leftyfb will that work with comparing the new file list to the cronlog?
[19:21] <leftyfb> zerohour999: not without massaging the data
[19:22] <leftyfb> zerohour999: nothing will do what you're looking for out of the box
[19:22] <Deano59> leftyfb: yo what's that command again to tell me how fast my boot time is? :)
[19:22] <leftyfb> zerohour999: but you could write a script to pull data from the cron log and write out a file that rsync can parse
[19:23] <leftyfb> Deano59: systemd-analyze is what all the cool kids are using these days
[19:23] <zerohour999> @leftyfb true true, I'll give it a shot. Thank you for your help!
[19:23] <Deano59> thanks. :)
[19:29] <Younder> dexter, vi is the natural home of  ed, sed, and ex so regex is a big part of it. If you want a graphics based editor that is less regexp based perhaps Atom or Code Studio?
[19:31] <dexter> Younder: VSCode and Atom use Electron, i mean, about regex was joking, but electron eats up your pc
[19:31] <dexter> i mean 600MB for teams
[19:31] <dexter> RAM usage
[19:32] <Younder> dexter, my machine has 128 Gb.. depends on what yo have available. But you already run a web browser. Atom is basically chromium and javascript
[19:40] <Younder> nano is the basic editor in ubuntu
[19:42] <Younder> Otherwise EMACS is still popular and available in text mode.
[19:43] <leftyfb> Younder: emacs >< vim
[19:43] <leftyfb> :)
[19:46] <leitz> Anyone able to parse why a fresh install of MariaDB fails?   https://gist.github.com/LeamHall/04615d6546f4b2bb4c681dd922db783d
[19:46] <leitz> I installed Mysql, then removed it, to install MariaDB.
[19:47] <leitz> Ubuntu 20.04, Mariadb installed via apt.
[19:47] <Younder> leftyfb, I use both. EMACS is best for Common Lisp  and has a good LaTex mode. vim for command line editing. I do a lot of ssh and command line editing of files. Also GUI's like Code Studio of Eclips.
[19:53] <leftyfb> leitz: you should probably purge both then reinstall mariadb
[19:55] <leitz> leftyfb, can you purge after it's already been removed? I removed mysql before installing Maria.
[19:55] <leitz> apparmor caused an initial issue for Maria, but I've removed that as well.
[19:59] <leitz> Reinstalling mysql so I can purge it properly.  :)
[20:00] <Younder> You REMOVED AppArmour? Good grief..
[20:03] <leitz> leftyfb, mysql doesn't want to be removed.  :(
[20:03] <leitz> installed mysql-server-8.0 package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[20:16] <mozzarella> guys help
[20:21] <TJ-> are you melting?
[20:22] <leitz> Sounds pretty cheesy to me...
[20:22] <leitz> Sorry, couldn't resist.
[20:22] <KF5WYX> Looks like I arrived late of a setup for a punch line.
[20:23] <leitz> I'm sure we can string this along for a while.
[20:25] <KF5WYX> I have an Off-Topic question, but I don't really know where-else to ask.  I'm trying to build cross binutils, build=ubuntu 18.04, host=win32, target=x86_64 linux - Everything builds if I exclude GDB (which I need), when I include it I get  "configure: error: GMP is missing or unusable
[20:25] <KF5WYX> "
[20:25] <KF5WYX> The question it's self being, "Any ideas?"
[20:26] <TJ-> KF5WYX: is that on Windows sub-system for Linux?
[20:26] <KF5WYX> TJ - No, I'm running an Ubuntu 18.04 vm, trying to build Mingw hosted binutils to target linux.
[20:27] <KF5WYX> I'm about to paste-bin my build script, but should also point out that I do not know what I'm doing  (I'm a developer but entirely unfamiliar with the GNU tool-chain)
[20:28] <KF5WYX> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fZdD9mZsSq/  <- the bit at the top is just installing packages, many may be unrequired.  --disable-gdb is added, in which case everything works.
[20:29] <KF5WYX> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JWD4SMyw4T/ <- when gdb enabled
[20:30] <TJ-> KF5WYX: oh! does the package './configure --help ' script indicate it takes options related to gmp? e.g. --with-gmp-include
[20:31] <KF5WYX> ./configure --help | grep gmp
[20:31] <KF5WYX>   --with-gmp-dir=PATH     this option has been REMOVED
[20:31] <KF5WYX>   --with-gmp=PATH         specify prefix directory for the installed GMP
[20:31] <KF5WYX>                           --with-gmp-include=PATH/include plus
[20:31] <KF5WYX>                           --with-gmp-lib=PATH/lib
[20:31] <KF5WYX>   --with-gmp-include=PATH specify directory for installed GMP include files
[20:31] <TJ-> KF5WYX: or possibly --with-gmp-lib or similar - those examples are from the 'mpc' package so are unlikely to be exactly the same
[20:32] <TJ-> KF5WYX: so, first check if you've got libgmp-dev installed
[20:32] <KF5WYX> TJ: I've tried --with-gmp=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu with no change
[20:32] <KF5WYX> TJ: I do have libgmp-dev
[20:34] <TJ-> KF5WYX: I've just checked where that package puts its files; it ought to be found but try "./configure --with-gmp=/usr ..."  just in case that helps
[20:34] <TJ-> KF5WYX: configure should created a config.status and config.log which, when examined, might indicate why gmp isn't being discovered
[20:34] <KF5WYX> TJ: Thank you, trying it now - It'll take some time to get results due to single-threading make.
[20:36] <TJ-> KF5WYX: generally when these things happen I open the ./configure script and search for the section that detects/sets the library options, so I'd do 'less configure' and then /gmp and read how it tries to detect the libraries it needs
[20:38] <KF5WYX> TJ- --with-gmp=/usr did not change anything.  I did try reading the configure / make scripts and got deep in variables, I'll look again. Also examining config.log since I'd previously not known it was there.
[20:39] <TJ-> KF5WYX: FYI most -dev packages ship the required build flags/options in package-config files; libgmp-dev puts them in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/gmp.pc
[20:39] <TJ-> KF5WYX: might be worth reading that
[20:41] <TJ-> KF5WYX: I very often do builds thus: ./configure --verbose ... |& tee /tmp/configure.log" and then I can review the verbose configure script activity if something goes wrong
[20:42] <Tombie> " I got fired when on Friday I told the students" the teacher goes to the nerves then starts the clubs. such greetings to parents, "and fired."
[20:47] <leftyfb> Tombie: can we help you with something?
[20:48] <OERIAS> My OS/2 server is running
[20:48] <leftyfb> !ubuntu | OERIAS
[20:49] <OERIAS> sorry, I though I was in ##chat
[20:49] <OERIAS> *thought
[20:53] <dexter> hi! i encoutered some weird problem, and the interwebs wasnt any help: i am a new ubuntu user, I am usually a void user: ./sysdeps/x86_64/multiarch/strchr-avx2.S
[20:53] <dexter> doesnt exist
[20:54] <dexter> i am compiling using GCC, and the C code is just a regular strchr
[20:54] <Tombie> leftyfb, you sure can: what i need to know, to start coding Ubuntu software ?
[20:55] <leftyfb> Tombie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[20:56] <Tombie> leftyfb, i did click link 3 times, then it opens, what is my problem ?
[21:01] <TJ-> dexter: you need to install that file; so far as I can see it doesn't exist in any Ubuntu package
[21:05] <dexter> thats weird AF, since i dont use any non STD lib TJ-
[21:08] <TJ-> dexter: it's supposedly part of some versions of glibc
[21:09] <Ozzzy> I try to update my system and I get 'The repository 'http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu Release' no longer has a Release file. How do I change things so it'll work
[21:10] <leftyfb> Ozzzy: what version of ubuntu?
[21:10] <Ozzzy> 18.10
[21:10] <leftyfb> !eol | Ozzzy
[21:10] <Ozzzy> thanks
[21:11] <Tombie> leftyfb, thanks !! interesting ubuntu-devel-page
[21:16] <Ubuntu-ar-es-en> Hi, I have a bug in fresh install using xubuntu / ubuntu mate, not using ubuntu / kubuntu. In mate flavour I fixed removing marco window manager, but no window Manager he, in xubuntu no Marco, so, i want to fix it or report because want to use 20.04.1. The bug is https://imgur.com/a/uX7vbHe
[21:17] <KF5WYX> TJ: Thank you for your help. I did not yet resolve it, but, I realized that I'm wrong about what I'm doing anyway. I'm actually building host=win32 target=win32, and therefore, it would need a win32 build of gmp to link against.  Not sure how to go about building that, but I'll bet I can find it if I look up WSL2 or MingW build guides.
[21:18] <Ubuntu-ar-es-en> the video card is a vega integrated ryzen 3200u ideapad laptop
[21:19] <Ubuntu-ar-es-en> any idea?
[21:20] <Ubuntu-ar-es-en> I tested too 20.10 and same bug
[21:21] <TJ-> Ubuntu-ar-es-en: that looks like a known bug; 'stepping' of the display; I reported it some time ago against amdgpu - there are upstream fixes but not sure they've reached the distros yet
[21:22] <TJ-> Bug #1873895
[21:23] <Ubuntu-ar-es-en> TJ-: So, is reported but upstream not fixed yet. Some .deb to fix it or url to see?
[21:26] <TJ-> Ubuntu-ar-es-en: in that report there are workarounds to resolve it
[21:27] <TJ-> Ubuntu-ar-es-en: see comments #38 and #37
[21:27] <Ubuntu-ar-es-en> TJ-: Can you give me the URL of that report? I can't find it
[21:27] <TJ-> errr, #36 and #37
[21:27] <Ubuntu-ar-es-en> oh sorry bug 1873895
[21:31] <Ubuntu-ar-es-en> Ii tried 800x600 and nothing, mmm moment to test xrandr and xconf-query comment 36/37
[21:40] <AJS66> i installed Ubuntu 20.10 and for the most part its working great.   when i boot up i get to grub and then my screen is black until GDM loads.  my drive is encrypted so i need to guess when it is asking for the drive password as its not showing on the screen.  anyone have any ideas how i can get the bootup to show on screen.  Side note if i launch
[21:40] <AJS66> in recovery mode i see the full startup
[21:45] <TJ-> AJS66: remove "splash" from the boot options via /etc/default/grub and after do "sudo update-grub" - that'll prevent the Plymouth splash screen from getting in the way (you can also try tapping the Esc key when the display is black - that tells Plymouth to show the tty console messages)
[21:45] <AJS66> TJ- Thanks, I'll give that a shot!
[21:46] <TJ-> AJS66: it could also be caused by problems with the display driver
[21:50] <AJS66> TJ- That's what i was thinking as well.  I'm running the nvidia 450 driver.  it seems to be working perfectly in GDM though.
[21:56] <TJ-> AJS66: yes; we sometimes see that with nvidia - it has to do with the driver not correcrtly taking over from the UEFI framebuffer driver
[22:02] <coconut> TJ-, what is the difference betweem "quite splash" and just "splash"?
[22:02] <Tombie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/hirsute-desktop-amd64.iso <---- where this is located ?
[22:02] <Tombie> usa ?
[22:02] <Tombie> sick slow download
[22:09] <TJ-> coconut: 'quiet' causes the initialramfs /init script to set the kernel to minimal messages (I generally replace 'quiet' with 'debug systemd.log_level=info' to increase kernel messages (but no the systemd init which piggy-backs off 'debug')
[22:09] <coconut> :)
[22:14] <superleaf1995> is there any software in ubuntu to graphically represent memory blocks/areas
[22:14] <superleaf1995> i.e: location 0x0fff to 0x15af represented in a block
[22:16] <TJ-> superleaf1995: you imply those memory addresses need to be read or just a graphical image unrelated to memory content?
[22:16] <superleaf1995> graphical representation of em
[22:16] <superleaf1995> unrelated to mem content
[22:21] <TJ-> superleaf1995: the only thing slightly like that I can think of is massif-visualizer - which represents valgrind output, so not really wht you need
[22:21] <superleaf1995> nope :-/
[22:26] <finalbeta> Hi, I would like to have a certain package (dislocker to read bitlocker drives) available on a Ubuntu live bootable USB stick. How can I do this please? what "recommended"  method would allow me to inject the package in the usb stick, or make my usb stick writable so I can install the package once booted?
[22:32] <Bashing-om> !persistence | finalbeta One way:
[22:46] <finalbeta> thanks Bashing-om
[23:44] <rapidwave> What do I do when I've reached limit of number of file watchers?
[23:44] <rapidwave> Do I need to restart the shell they were launched with?