[00:16] <ubptgbot> Bruther_P_Touch was added by: Bruther_P_Touch
 Hello all
 welcome pee
 [Edit] welcome pete
 I'm using redmi 4x and i cant make adb work with it
 For other 2 phones adb work normal but fot this its not
 I'm getting preparing system image when i try to install Ubuntu Touch
 Usb debugging is activated in developer mod
 But when i connect the phone to pc it just start charging
 The phone is not detected from PC
 I'm using Ubuntu 20.04 on my PC
[02:31] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> @rikmac [is there any news for Pixel 3a?, APN works, sees all local telephone suppliers, …], Hi Ricardo. I'm using a Pixel 3a XL. /Mint mobile SIM. Upon 1st install I was not getting incoming SMS messages.. so I re flashed my Pixel. Been working perfectly for the past few days.. I think I made the mistake and used different. Carrier sims
[02:31] <ubptgbot> on first install (think I confused the system lol) .. google fi, verizon..  I flashed device, w/o SIM. After reinstall. I inserted mint mobile sim & power cycled pixel.   Interestingly enough.. prior to reflashing.. APN showed as mint mobile, after flash .. T-Mobile
[02:32] <ubptgbot> <Pete N.> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/2rvEhDV6.png
 @KPETEH [For other 2 phones adb work normal but fot this its not], sound like an issue with the phone, what's its current os?
 @Pete N. [<reply to media>], you can take a screenshot by pressing both volume keys fwiw
 When i was going through Bounty Source website today I found out that that there is UBports created there but it is unclaimed.I feel its better if the UBport core members can claim it. find find the link here : https://www.bountysource.com/teams/ubports/settings
 @Flohack @UniversalSuperBox ^^ something that needs to be done ❔
 @Fuseteam [you can take a screenshot by pressing both volume keys fwiw], Yesterday installed android 10 but same thing happened with MIUI android 7.2
 Yesterday I installed android 10 but it was the same with MIUI android 7.1.2
 @Danfro [@Flohack @UniversalSuperBox ^^ something that needs to be done ❔], No idea who did it I will ask
 I installed ubports on my Nexus 5. After I wanted to flash original ROM but after flashing I have my phone in  bootloop
 @giuseppeal [I installed ubports on my Nexus 5. After I wanted to flash original ROM but afte …], Bootlooping Android stock ROM?
 @xander2m [Bootlooping Android stock ROM?], Yes stock ROM, I had a lot of problems with lineageOs too, after various attempts (with TWRP wipes) I installed it
 I can flash ubports again, works perfectly but I can't flash stock ROM for some reason
 @giuseppeal [I can flash ubports again, works perfectly but I can't flash stock ROM for some …], I had some problems flashing stock. What worked for me was flashing twrp recovery and repairing data, then flashing original KitKat firmware then latest firmware. Now boots fine and then installed UT
[08:31] <ubptgbot> IsmanPuerto was added by: IsmanPuerto
[08:35] <ubptgbot> Rakshit Jain (Japs) was added by: Rakshit Jain (Japs)
[10:22] <ubptgbot> XP5000 was added by: XP5000
 hello everyone
 can any help me flash ubuntu touch on lenovo A6000+
 @XP5000 [can any help me flash ubuntu touch on lenovo A6000+], I don't think a port exists for that device
 In this case you will need to port it
 how
 do note porting can take up to a year
 Well can I use ports of other devices with same specs
 every device is unique so most work cannot be reused
 at the very least halium-boot has to be made
 Long story short there is no hope ?
 halium-boot is not that hard if you have working lineage 15 tree
 [Edit] halium-boot is not that hard if you have working lineage 16 tree
 then you can use gsi
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/LmSgTsx9.png
 I'm using custom lineage 17 rom
 @XP5000 [Long story short there is no hope ?], there is only hope if you're willing to put the time into porting it ;)
 ## Porting: getting started ## … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/Intro.html … http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/index.html … For questions join @halium or @UBports_porting
 @Fuseteam [there is only hope if you're willing to put the time into porting it ;)], Well this is nice opportunity to experiment 🙂
 @Danfro [## Porting: getting started ## … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/Intro.h …], Thanks
 Have fun. 😊
 ... and success!
 @XP5000 [Well this is nice opportunity to experiment 🙂], great! good luck!
 @Fuseteam [great! good luck!], can you help me with docs about making (or porting) device trees ?
 @Ozu [can you help me with docs about making (or porting) device trees ?], Have a look here: http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/Intro.html
 @Ozu [can you help me with docs about making (or porting) device trees ?], And @halium
 okay. thanks
 but I want to know about making device trees for a device with no develoment.. for say
 Oh, you mean the company producing the device does not publish the device tree, but you want to reverse engineer it?
 yeah from with same chipset
 [Edit] yeah from devices with same chipset
 I am not sure there really is documentation on that, because I imagine this is a very difficult and hit-and-miss process.
 But if you want to understand how device trees work: https://elinux.org/Device_Tree_Reference
 Ooo..
 okay... thanks
 But still people in @halium might have a better insight on that topic.
 all right. thanks for the help
 @xander2m [I had some problems flashing stock. What worked for me was flashing twrp recover …], Doesn't work for me
 @giuseppeal [Doesn't work for me], Is it on Android 6 and the 4 spinning things just stops then reboots?
 @xander2m [Is it on Android 6 and the 4 spinning things just stops then reboots?], Yes
 That's what happened to me last night.
 Now I installed UT again, it works
 I flashed twrp and advanced wipe repaired data and storage
 @giuseppeal [Now I installed UT again, it works], Well UT is better than old android 6.
 @xander2m [I flashed twrp and advanced wipe repaired data and storage], Done
 @xander2m [Well UT is better than old android 6.], that's always true
 😂👍
 I've been using it a lot with my SIM and it works a lot better than I hoped. Except for Telegram apps
 I'm trying Libertine containers for install desktop apps
 UT has very few apps available
 @xander2m [I've been using it a lot with my SIM and it works a lot better than I hoped. Exc …], are you using teleports?
 maybe try `mywebtelegram`
 it's web app, but presonally I prefer it over teleports
 @just_carlod [maybe try mywebtelegram], I'll try that one
 @just_carlod [it's web app, but presonally I prefer it over teleports], Me too if it works.
 [Edit] it's web app, but presonally I prefer it to teleports
 @giuseppeal [I'm trying Libertine containers for install desktop apps], I tried this via settings but the icon just span a lot. Does it work for you? Maybe I didn't wait long enough
 On mywebtelegram and this works well.
 @xander2m [I tried this via settings but the icon just span a lot. Does it work for you? Ma …], did you keep your phone active? the libertine container takes quite long to set up the first time
 last time i tried it took me 3-ish hours iirc
 3 ish hours?! Wow.
 Per app?
 no only the initial setup
 apps where smooth and quick
 [Edit] apps were smooth and quick
 I've been trying to install libreoffice-writer for almost 20 mins
 @Fuseteam [last time i tried it took me 3-ish hours iirc], hmm, maybe that's why it didn't work for me
 And now it crashed saying no packages are installed.
 I hope one day we wouldn't need to use libertine to run "normal" linux apps
 @xander2m [I've been trying to install libreoffice-writer for almost 20 mins], but have you set up a libertine container?
 I thought so.
 How do I delete and start over? I tried and failed with terminal line
 @just_carlod [I hope one day we wouldn't need to use libertine to run "normal" linux apps], the issue with "normal" linux apps is that the traditional installer just dumps their files in the rootfs; there is no way to determine where they are installed to which carries the risk of breaking the install. we have readonly rootfs to mitigate
[12:50] <ubptgbot>  the latter risk. so to do it we would need to be able to install those apps in specific directory or location "often called "prefix installations"
 @xander2m [I thought so.], you can run `libertine-container-manager list` iirc
 if you see a container want to start over you can do `llibertine-container-manager destroy -i <id-you-saw-with-list>`
 @just_carlod [I hope one day we wouldn't need to use libertine to run "normal" linux apps], what I wish is for libertine to improve in terms of installation, integration and compatibility 😄
 Can we request any new device ?
 no we do not have a porting service
 porting requires up to a year of work and physical access to the device
 @Fuseteam [porting requires up to a year of work and physical access to the device], A year?
 @WolfLink115 [A year?], Oh pardon my dumbness, I forgot about the perfecting of the port...
 Hi, today I can receive text messages however I cannot send any. Had anyone have such issue earlier?
 @Fuseteam [porting requires up to a year of work and physical access to the device], With Android 9 things get easier, we can speak of a few months now ;)
 and it will be only faster and faster in the future
 [Edit] and it will be only faster and faster in the future, I think
 That's because we have bigger experience and there's more people who can help new porters
 still need the phone :(
 How to check memory usage on UT?
[15:35] <ubptgbot> Sidi_Ahmad was added by: Sidi_Ahmad
 @WolfLink115 [Oh pardon my dumbness, I forgot about the perfecting of the port...], i said "up to a year" :p i'm no porter myself but most of the ports being added have been in progress up to 2 years even xD
 @Fuseteam [i said "up to a year" :p i'm no porter myself but most of the ports being added …], Oof
 @arunkumar413 [How to check memory usage on UT?], Maybe check the answer to the same question you posted here a few days ago?
 @arunkumar413 [How to check memory usage on UT?], do you mean RAM or storage space?
 @Flohack [With Android 9 things get easier, we can speak of a few months now ;)], really? cool! so 3 months? but we don't really have many of those in the intstaller yet do we?
 @just_carlod [That's because we have bigger experience and there's more people who can help ne …], true that xD
 @Fuseteam [really? cool! so 3 months? but we don't really have many of those in the intstal …], there's volla, jasmine_sprout, lavendar, pro1, sargo
 none of them is really perfect yet though
 @dohbee [do you mean RAM or storage space?], RAM
 @just_carlod [there's volla, jasmine_sprout, lavendar, pro1, sargo], ohw true 🤔
 Volla did involve lot of time, effort and money for example
 @arunkumar413 [RAM], then as answered previously, run `free -h` in the terminal or use `top` in terminal. there's no graphical resource usage monitor currently
 @dohbee [then as answered previously, run free -h in the terminal or use top in terminal. …], Thanks. I will try to work on it
 @Fuseteam [really? cool! so 3 months? but we don't really have many of those in the intstal …], They will come. I am working on Oneplus 5/5T, Pixel 3a is there, Pixel 2/2XL on my table, Pixel incoming. Other people doing the same.  … Still we need to fix generic Android 9 problems, LED, sensor, vibrator, Camera, Hotspot, just to name a fe
[16:04] <ubptgbot> w. Those features are not working well on Halium 9 and prevent us from releasing faster
 @Flohack [They will come. I am working on Oneplus 5/5T, Pixel 3a is there, Pixel 2/2XL on …], yup which is why i say "up to a year" 😆it can be faster but a lot still needs to be done hehe
 I would say that getting all the basic functionality working is relatively easy now, but polishing and fighting with all the unexpected random issues takes a lot of time after
 The 80:20 rule. You get 80% ofnthe workload done in 20% of the time. Tje remaining 20% of workload take up the other 80% of your workload. On a management course I have been teached: drop the last 20% of the workload. 🤓
 [Edit] The 80:20 rule. You get 80% of the workload done in 20% of the time. The remaining 20% of workload take up the other 80% of your workload. On a management course I have been teached: drop the last 20% of the workload. 🤓
 drop? 😱
 [Edit] The 80:20 rule. You get 80% of the workload done in 20% of the time. The remaining 20% of workload take up the other 80% of your time. On a management course I have been teached: drop the last 20% of the workload. 🤓
 Yea. Reality doesn't allow this in most cases.
 But I learned not to waste too mich time on smaller issues. That is excactly why many ports work 95%.
 [Edit] But I learned not to waste too much time on smaller issues. That is excactly why many ports work 95%.
 Ignorance helps.
 ah interesting
[17:19] <ubptgbot> Parmanand Motiramani was added by: Parmanand Motiramani
 Weight the effort needed to solve something against the hassle it is to live with it.
 speaking of which i still say maturity should based on what works and what not even if unweighted. that's way better than random :p
 Agreed.
 @Danfro [Weight the effort needed to solve something against the hassle it is to live wit …], heh, if i did that i'd never get things fixed xD
 @Fuseteam [heh, if i did that i'd never get things fixed xD], You are not allowed to do that. 😜
 welcome Parmanand if you are going to ask if it works on your device, i would like to pre-empt you to the group description xD
[17:21] <ubptgbot> <Parmanand Motiramani> Hi I'm trying to find an open source alternative for Android. Will Ubuntu Touch work on my Oppo A12 (CPH 2083)??
 @Fuseteam [welcome Parmanand if you are going to ask if it works on your device, i would li …], Bruh
 lmao
 ooof looks like i was too late
 lmao
 [Edit] lmao 😂
 (Sticker, 512x201) https://irc.ubports.com/VvL52Kpf.webp
 @NotKit [I would say that getting all the basic functionality working is relatively easy …], Well we also admit we must properly implement a few things that affect all 9.0 devices, so there are blockers that wait for solution, but lets see what the next weeks/months will brting
 @amyosx [Bruh], he did ask in the end xD
 @amyosx [Bruh], [Edit] he did ask in the end xD
 (Sticker, 512x214) https://irc.ubports.com/q0kGSCKG.webp
[17:23] <ubptgbot> <Parmanand Motiramani> Thank you
 (Sticker, 512x411) https://irc.ubports.com/kx34sROm.webp
 lmao you really did do it @amyosx 😂
 @Fuseteam [welcome Parmanand if you are going to ask if it works on your device, i would li …], You can read minds. I am impressed. 😅
 @Fuseteam [lmao you really did do it @amyosx 😂], Yes
 Cache hasn't update on here
 @Danfro [You can read minds. I am impressed. 😅], been around too long 😂
 But I'll try on other phone
 (Sticker, 512x411) https://irc.ubports.com/U4iunv70.webp
[17:25] <ubptgbot> <Parmanand Motiramani> ☹️My device is not listed.
 don't mind us, we do get that question a lot
 @Parmanand Motiramani [☹️My device is not listed.], Then you would have to learn how to port your phone
 an unlisted it can be ported. a port can take upwards of a few months of tinkering
 The good news with halium 9 its comparatively easy
 ^
 @Fuseteam [^], Not a year 😊
 :P
 👍
 it used to take a few years now it takes a few months
[17:27] <ubptgbot> <Parmanand Motiramani> @Fuseteam [an unlisted it can be ported. a port can take upwards of a few months of tinkeri …], okay
 To get it to boot could even be days, then you realise how buggy it is :P
 It boots but you can't set it up, cause no touch screen
 where's danfro when ya need them lmao
 @Parmanand Motiramani [okay], if you're interested
 ## Porting: getting started ## … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/Intro.html … http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/index.html … For questions join @halium or @UBports_porting
 @Fuseteam [where's danfro when ya need them lmao], Here you are.
 there we go 😂
 Damn someone was doing Teracube but they arent here
 @Danfro [Here you are.], Lma
 @Danfro [Here you are.], [Edit] Lmao
 #teamwork
 Yea
 (Sticker, 512x214) https://irc.ubports.com/cUJm9oD4.webp
 Is it possible to install whatsapp
 Oneplus one
 @sandysmart [Is it possible to install whatsapp], No
 @sandysmart [Is it possible to install whatsapp], whatsapp doesn't support ubuntu touch, we'll have to ask them
 @sandysmart [Is it possible to install whatsapp], [Edit] whatsapp doesn't support ubuntu touch, you'll have to ask them
 Okay
 you should be able to find their contact info on their website :p
 For This OS Specifically I bought oneplus One device installed today only
 [Edit] you should be able to find their contact info on their website ;)
 So only asked
 ah cool
 Telegram works smoothly
 yeah we know, just that android apps developers don't support ubuntu touch yet. but if an app is open source like telegram tis a different story xD
 How well does anbox work for using android apps?
 Also WhatsApp is not exactly secure or safe
 @xander2m [How well does anbox work for using android apps?], experimentally pre-alpha well xD
 @xander2m [How well does anbox work for using android apps?], [Edit] experimentally pre-alpha well* xD
 😂😂😂 Perfect!!
 @xander2m [How well does anbox work for using android apps?], I saw some videos with anbox not sure of
 Safety
 *symptons may be fast battery drain double launcher icons and dragons
 @sandysmart [Safety], safety in what sense?
 @Fuseteam [*symptons may be fast battery drain double launcher icons and dragons], Yea that irritates
 @Fuseteam [safety in what sense?], Data piracy
 And I read the news of whatsapp will ban the user as well 😂😂
 @sandysmart [Yea that irritates], that's why it's "experementally pre-alpha" :p
 @sandysmart [Data piracy], anbox runs android in a light weight "virtual machine"* so that android applications can run in an android enviroment
 Instagram also won't work right
 *the technical term is a container, which is not really  a virtual machine, it doesn't emulate any hardware for example
 @sandysmart [Instagram also won't work right], right due to missing camera support
 @Fuseteam [*the technical term is a container, which is not really  a virtual machine, it d …], don't say VM then when container is the right word :P
 most don't know what a container is :P
 Hmmmm
 btw we _do_ have whatsweb web for mobile, and a third party instagram clientwebapp
 [Edit] btw we _do_ have whatsweb web for mobile, and a third party instagram client/webapp
 [Edit] btw we do have whatsapp web for mobile, and a third party instagram client/webapp
 both of which do work ;)
[18:03] <ubptgbot> MANUELA Daniela was added by: MANUELA Daniela
[18:03] <ubptgbot> <MANUELA Daniela> (Photo, 684x902) https://irc.ubports.com/ESab40KS.png
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/VODdmxeB.webp
 @Fuseteam [btw we do have whatsapp web for mobile, and a third party instagram client/webap …], That's great
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/LWZFtUSn.webp
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/ks0SmCQW.mp4
 What tablet is that?
 @wadejbeckett [What tablet is that?], Amazon fire
 @wadejbeckett [What tablet is that?], Amazon fire hd8 2018
 codname karnak
 @amyosx [Amazon fire], There is a lot of fires
 @Lukapanio [There is a lot of fires], Yes
 I used what I could tell from
[19:23] <ubptgbot> smirnaff was added by: smirnaff
 (Photo, 588x406) https://irc.ubports.com/iFMqBT1o.png Hello! Trying to install Ubuntu touch on my Nexus 5 using the installer for windows. Here's the error it gives to me. I tried to ignore it, because it seems like nothing's wrong by the error message, it just says what files were pushed to the phone. But after the installation it doesn
[19:23] <ubptgbot> 't go further the boot logo. Or maybe I should wait longer? Thanks in advance!
 Is it possible to port ubuntu touch for samsung phone which don't have the requmemts to build los and use samsung open source code
 @smirnaff [<reply to media>], Did you click the ADB box in settings when it says to allow pc access to phone? That's the problem I had with installation yesterday.
 @xander2m [Did you click the ADB box in settings when it says to allow pc access to phone? …], where can I find it?
 So, clean install stock os. Click the seven time thing in settings to allow developer settings. Then on the terminal type "ADB devices" and click the box that pops up on your phone screen. By doing this it enabled my installation to work.
 ah, in Android. Got it
 I thought in installer
 👍
 It fixed all of the issues that I had.
 Thanks!
[19:51] <ubptgbot> GarfieldArbuckle was added by: GarfieldArbuckle
 Nah, same problem...
[20:30] <ubptgbot> Lois Gatlin was added by: Lois Gatlin
 @Flohack [No idea who did it I will ask], I've tried claiming it three times, never a response.
 @GarfieldArbuckle [GarfieldArbuckle was added by: amyosx], Hey
 Wen eta channel port
 @amyosx [Hey], Hiy
 @amyosx [Wen eta channel port], When i have PC xD
[20:59] <ubptgbot> <Navi Singh> Ubuntu apps good or crash
 @GarfieldArbuckle [When i have PC xD], Just beg on XDA and get someone to send you one
 Someone sent Spaceminer a new PC and he didn't even want anyone to even donate to him
 @amyosx [Just beg on XDA and get someone to send you one], Hmmm
 Maybe
 But i will enter yo medical school
 Test every week
 Ahh
 (Sticker, 512x454) https://irc.ubports.com/CSqK2TER.webp
 [Edit] But i will enter to medical school
 [Edit] Tests every week
 @amyosx [Ahh], F
 @UniversalSuperBox [I've tried claiming it three times, never a response.], @Danfro
 @Flohack [@Danfro], Ok, thanks for investigating.
 @Sanath [When i was going through Bounty Source website today I found out that that there …], Claiming not possible... ^^
 Thanks for everyone! It installed successfully!
[21:40] <ubptgbot> <Lois Gatlin> (Photo, 553x595) https://irc.ubports.com/0YsfC7n8.png LOOOK-https://bit.ly/3hiqREL
 yay /o/
 Congrats!!! Well done.
[22:40] <ubptgbot> iluha_ua was added by: iluha_ua
 Hi i have a strange issue a few days ago I've tried to install Ubuntu touch on Redmi 4x and installation stopped at preparing system image. After this i found that my device is not connecting to adb. Usb debugging is on and when i connect the phone the phone starts charging Ubuntu does not detects it. When try adb devices command  it say t
[23:53] <ubptgbot> here is no connected device. Adb works normal with same cable and another phone.Today i found that adb over wifi works with Redmi 4x. Any suggestions to solve this ?