| sakrecoer[b] | Have i done something or is there by default 2 font managers and 2 font viewers included in ubuntu studio? | 11:28 |
|---|---|---|
| sakrecoer[b] | the manager and viewer included with KDE are very very good... | 11:28 |
| sakrecoer[b] | the other one (that's been included since way back, gnome based) is good too, but not as good.. | 11:29 |
| sakrecoer[b] | well... imho anyways :D | 11:29 |
| sakrecoer[b] | ping Eickmeyer ^ | 11:30 |
| sakrecoer[b] | strikes me now that they conflict... i wonder if i somehow managed to pull down one of their variants by inadvertence or if they are both installed at scratch | 11:32 |
| sakrecoer[b] | KDE font manager wants to install personal fonts in ~/.fonts and other one wants to install them in ~/.local/share/fonts | 11:34 |
| sakrecoer[b] | KDE sees in ~/.local/share/fonts | 11:34 |
| sakrecoer[b] | other one needs to have the location ~/.fonts added manually | 11:34 |
| sakrecoer[b] | "conflict" is an overstatement... The collection they display doesn't match automagically. | 11:35 |
| guiverc | sakrecoer[b], if you upgraded from a XFCE based Ubuntu Studio to a KDE based Ubuntu Studio (not via re-install), that could cause both XFCE (GTK+) based & KDE (Qt) based font viewers to be installed; but that's just a thought | 13:00 |
| sakrecoer[b] | thanks guiverc :) but it's a fresh install so i doubt thats the reason. | 15:11 |
| sakrecoer[b] | i ended up doing `apt remove font-manager font-viewer` and all was good. gotta love the way kde habdles fonts tbh \o/ | 15:11 |
| sakrecoer[b] | `kfontview` replaces `font-viewer` gracefully | 15:14 |
| nekopa777 | Good evening all from the Czech Republic | 17:30 |
| nekopa777 | Trying to find some support for an issue I've had with Ubuntu Studio since the last update. | 17:31 |
| nekopa777 | ubuntustudio-controls no longer is working for me, everytime I try to run it, it segfaults | 17:32 |
| nekopa777 | I am still able to work with audio using carla and QjackCtl | 17:32 |
| nekopa777 | I have tried to update it again, I removed it and reinstalled it again, but still the same issue. | 17:33 |
| nekopa777 | On the ubuntu.com Studio community the last post on the forums was from 2017, so I am not sure where else to look for info and help. | 17:35 |
| corrinado[m] | nekopa777: Not a lot of folks on here, but I'm sure one of the devs will see it later. This is typically a low-traffic room. | 18:19 |
| rgh | There gotta be some residual config somewhere | 18:19 |
| rgh | Removing software doesn't remove your settings. | 18:19 |
| nekopa777 | Yeah, plus it's Christmas too :) | 18:20 |
| nekopa777 | I'm trying to find where the core dumped to to see if there's any more info in there. | 18:20 |
| nekopa777 | I just thought I'd try here as well... | 18:20 |
| rgh | nekopa777: can you search your home dir for autojack | 18:20 |
| rgh | Hold on, lemme check my stuff. | 18:21 |
| rgh | Please notice : I am getting out of my lazy chair for this! | 18:21 |
| nekopa777 | :D Thanks | 18:21 |
| nekopa777 | Can't see anything named autojack | 18:21 |
| rgh | are you comfertable with the terminal (command line interface) | 18:23 |
| rgh | I see ~/.config/autojack | 18:23 |
| rgh | delete the autojack dir if you have it | 18:23 |
| rgh | also remove ~/.jackdrc | 18:24 |
| rgh | ~/ <- that's linux talk for your home dir (/home/rob in my case) | 18:25 |
| nekopa777 | got it. I did find this error in /var/log/syslog : | 18:25 |
| nekopa777 | Dec 23 19:24:40 winterfell kernel: [ 4360.536085] traps: ubuntustudio-co[6187] general protection fault ip:7f69998e46a7 sp:7ffd2f202468 error:0 in libc-2.31.so[7f699977e000+178000] | 18:26 |
| rgh | I think that's basically a segfault | 18:26 |
| rgh | I dunno if a backtrace from the coredump is possible | 18:27 |
| nekopa777 | Ok, no autojack, I will try removing .jackdrc | 18:27 |
| rgh | no autojack config ? really ? | 18:27 |
| rgh | huh | 18:27 |
| nekopa777 | Removing jackdrc didn't help. | 18:28 |
| rgh | sudo apt purge ubuntustudio-controls | 18:28 |
| nekopa777 | Let me look in the config folder... | 18:28 |
| rgh | tried that ? | 18:28 |
| rgh | oh hold on | 18:28 |
| nekopa777 | nope, will try that next... | 18:28 |
| rgh | checking something | 18:28 |
| nekopa777 | ok, found autojack, it was in the .config folder | 18:29 |
| rgh | yes, as I pasted above ;-) | 18:29 |
| rgh | don't panick | 18:29 |
| rgh | we'll sort it out :-) | 18:29 |
| * rgh is searching for some cli fu commands | 18:30 | |
| nekopa777 | Missed that, ok, removing autojack now... | 18:30 |
| rgh | be patient | 18:30 |
| rgh | (I don't really know how the `find` command works | 18:30 |
| nekopa777 | No change. | 18:31 |
| rgh | hold on | 18:31 |
| rgh | pulseaudio could be the culprit | 18:31 |
| nekopa777 | Should I try the purge command? I removed then reinstalled ubuntustudio-controls, to no avail | 18:31 |
| rgh | pro tip : curl cheat.sh/find | 18:32 |
| rgh | this will dump a cheat sheet in your terminal :-0 | 18:32 |
| nekopa777 | Nice! | 18:32 |
| rgh | curl cheat.sh/<command> | 18:32 |
| nekopa777 | carla is still coming up with most of my config intact, so I can still get sound | 18:33 |
| rgh | so I need find . -iname 'pulse' (probably) | 18:33 |
| rgh | oh, jack is still running then | 18:33 |
| rgh | or carla is autostarting jack | 18:33 |
| nekopa777 | The pulse audio mixer comes up fine still. | 18:33 |
| rgh | don't do that | 18:33 |
| rgh | oh | 18:33 |
| nekopa777 | I can still wire stuff up in carla, pulseaudio is still showing the jack sinks and sources | 18:34 |
| rgh | sudo apt purge pulseaudio-module-jack | 18:35 |
| rgh | that's the bridge | 18:35 |
| rgh | after that try | 18:36 |
| rgh | sudo apt autopurge | 18:36 |
| nekopa777 | Ok, should I purge pulse first, or ubuntustudio-controls? | 18:36 |
| rgh | don't purge pulse! | 18:36 |
| rgh | only the bridge | 18:36 |
| nekopa777 | ok. | 18:37 |
| rgh | purge studio controls | 18:37 |
| rgh | afer that try autopurge | 18:37 |
| rgh | maybe apt removes all bridges and stuff | 18:37 |
| nekopa777 | I will do that now... | 18:37 |
| rgh | unless you once, in the past, installed that manually | 18:37 |
| rgh | after that | 18:37 |
| rgh | rm -rf ~/.config/pulse | 18:37 |
| rgh | oh | 18:38 |
| rgh | run this | 18:38 |
| nekopa777 | No, this was an fresh install from the Ubuntu Studio ISO, been working fine for a few months, then did an update the other day and something got borked. | 18:38 |
| rgh | find . -iname 'pulse' | 18:38 |
| rgh | 20.10 install ? | 18:38 |
| nekopa777 | 20.04 I believe... | 18:39 |
| rgh | hm | 18:39 |
| rgh | and the update was just a regular sudo apt get upgrade | 18:39 |
| rgh | oh, matrix might have borked some text formatting | 18:40 |
| nekopa777 | The update was the pop-up window from software updater I think, let me see it that has some error logs... | 18:40 |
| rgh | `find ./ -iname "*pulse*"` | 18:40 |
| rgh | this will find all pulse stuff in your home dir | 18:40 |
| nekopa777 | hmm, no the software updater is saying it failed to download the repository info... | 18:41 |
| rgh | ok | 18:42 |
| rgh | time for the command line | 18:42 |
| nekopa777 | ok, I have a terminal open | 18:43 |
| rgh | sudo apt update | 18:43 |
| nekopa777 | Done. | 18:43 |
| rgh | sudo apt upgrade | 18:44 |
| rgh | could take a while | 18:44 |
| nekopa777 | Did nothing on the upgrade... | 18:45 |
| nekopa777 | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded | 18:45 |
| rgh | find ./ -iname "*pulse*" | 18:46 |
| rgh | ah crap | 18:46 |
| rgh | hold on | 18:46 |
| rgh | gotta check irc | 18:46 |
| rgh | I am on matrix and it uses markdown | 18:46 |
| nekopa777 | Cheers | 18:46 |
| rgh | and I'm not sure if the commands I type and see, are the same on irc | 18:46 |
| nekopa777 | aha. | 18:46 |
| nekopa777 | lsb_release -a shows me on Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS | 18:47 |
| rgh | what's the irc channel actually ? | 18:48 |
| nekopa777 | #ubuntustudio on Freenode | 18:48 |
| nekopa777 | Welcome back! | 18:48 |
| rghvdberg | does this work ? | 18:48 |
| rgh | oohh rghvdberg .. that's a smart dude | 18:49 |
| rghvdberg | thanks! | 18:49 |
| nekopa777 | haha | 18:49 |
| rgh | and handsome ! | 18:49 |
| rghvdberg | I get that a lot | 18:49 |
| rgh | hold on, testing something | 18:49 |
| nekopa777 | Ok. | 18:49 |
| nekopa777 | By the way, thanks for trying to help me solve this. | 18:50 |
| rgh | find ./ -iname "*pulse*" | 18:50 |
| rgh | the * are visible | 18:50 |
| rgh | anyway run that | 18:50 |
| rgh | and see if there are any residual pulse config | 18:50 |
| rgh | nekopa777: this is fun for me | 18:51 |
| rgh | I like puzzles | 18:51 |
| rgh | and maybe we've found a bug and we can report it and the software will become better | 18:51 |
| nekopa777 | Ok, its running, so far its found stuff in a few places... | 18:52 |
| rgh | ~/.config/pulse is normal | 18:53 |
| rgh | any other pulse directory could be a thing | 18:53 |
| nekopa777 | here is a paste for it: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GHT6gcB8x9/ | 18:53 |
| rghvdberg | seems fine | 18:54 |
| rghvdberg | that ./pr0n dir worries me though | 18:54 |
| rghvdberg | ./pr0n/donkeys ... really ? | 18:54 |
| nekopa777 | :D | 18:54 |
| nekopa777 | Gotta pulse a donkey from time to time... | 18:55 |
| genii | Perhaps they are shrek fans | 18:55 |
| rghvdberg | well | 18:55 |
| nekopa777 | Did the upgrade not work because I am on the LTS version? | 18:55 |
| rghvdberg | Somebody once told me the world is gonna roll me | 18:56 |
| rghvdberg | apt upgrade is stupid linux lingo for update | 18:56 |
| rghvdberg | apt update == update the package database | 18:56 |
| nekopa777 | I see... | 18:57 |
| rghvdberg | apt ugprade == update the sofware (download and install newer packages) | 18:57 |
| rghvdberg | ok, so | 18:57 |
| nekopa777 | It looks like something goofy is going on with my package manager, | 18:57 |
| rghvdberg | <gif> doubt </gif> | 18:57 |
| rghvdberg | this is ubuntu | 18:58 |
| nekopa777 | First it couldn't download the packages, so I change the repository location and now it seems hung on trying to refresh the software cache | 18:58 |
| rghvdberg | not Arch | 18:58 |
| rghvdberg | what did you do | 18:58 |
| rghvdberg | you get errors during apt update ? | 18:58 |
| nekopa777 | Moment... | 18:59 |
| nekopa777 | 6 errors... | 18:59 |
| nekopa777 | E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/mark-pcnetspec/conky-manager-pm9/ubuntu focal Release' does not have a Release file. | 18:59 |
| nekopa777 | N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. | 18:59 |
| rghvdberg | oh | 18:59 |
| rghvdberg | conky | 19:00 |
| nekopa777 | N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details | 19:00 |
| rghvdberg | did you manually add that ppa ? | 19:00 |
| nekopa777 | E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/me-tv-development/ppa/ubuntu focal Release' does not have a Release file. | 19:00 |
| nekopa777 | N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. | 19:00 |
| nekopa777 | And so on, | 19:00 |
| nekopa777 | Yes manually addded conky to get conky manager, | 19:01 |
| rgh | ```apt show ubuntustudio-controls | 19:01 |
| rgh | Package: ubuntustudio-controls | 19:01 |
| rgh | Version: 1.12.6~20.04.1 | 19:01 |
| nekopa777 | And the other one was to set up an SDR | 19:01 |
| rghvdberg | what's your version ? | 19:01 |
| rghvdberg | apt show ubuntustudio-controls | 19:02 |
| rghvdberg | will tell you | 19:02 |
| nekopa777 | Same as yours | 19:02 |
| rghvdberg | btw,do you have kxstudio repos installed by change ? | 19:02 |
| nekopa777 | Yes | 19:02 |
| rghvdberg | and have you used cadence | 19:03 |
| nekopa777 | Not that I know of, but in the apt show, it listed cadence as a conflict | 19:03 |
| rghvdberg | well that should be alright then | 19:04 |
| rghvdberg | ok try this | 19:05 |
| rghvdberg | open terminal | 19:05 |
| nekopa777 | And the software cache is still trying to refresh | 19:05 |
| rghvdberg | never mind that | 19:05 |
| rghvdberg | in terminal type `autojack` | 19:05 |
| rghvdberg | after that open studio controls | 19:05 |
| rghvdberg | don't close the terminal | 19:05 |
| nekopa777 | Should I run studio controls in a new term window? | 19:06 |
| rghvdberg | just run that normally | 19:06 |
| rghvdberg | via the menu or something | 19:07 |
| rghvdberg | (I'm on gnome ..) | 19:07 |
| nekopa777 | (XFCE here) | 19:07 |
| rghvdberg | (noice) | 19:07 |
| nekopa777 | No response from the menu start, I've opened a new term and will try it there and see what message comes up... | 19:07 |
| nekopa777 | Still the seg fault (core dumped) | 19:08 |
| rghvdberg | crap | 19:08 |
| rghvdberg | mmm | 19:09 |
| nekopa777 | Where could I look for a log from the last software update, because something went wrong with it | 19:09 |
| rghvdberg | that I don't know | 19:09 |
| rghvdberg | you mean a changelog from ubuntustudio-controls ? | 19:09 |
| rghvdberg | /var/log/apt/ | 19:10 |
| rghvdberg | maybe term.log or history.log | 19:10 |
| nekopa777 | Nope. The software updater that runs from time to time, pops up a window and asks you to update somethings. | 19:11 |
| nekopa777 | This issue started right after it had run, | 19:11 |
| rghvdberg | did you reboot since then ? | 19:12 |
| rghvdberg | oppa windows style | 19:12 |
| nekopa777 | Yes, I've turned it off and on a few times since, as sometimes the sound goes out and I don't know how to set up all the bridges manually... | 19:13 |
| rghvdberg | ah crap | 19:13 |
| rghvdberg | well, it's time to summon the gods | 19:13 |
| rghvdberg | we need OvenWerks | 19:13 |
| rghvdberg | I'm out of options | 19:13 |
| rghvdberg | purge configs, purge software, reboot, reinstall | 19:13 |
| rghvdberg | that should normally do it in my experience | 19:14 |
| rghvdberg | UNLESS we've hit a rare bug | 19:14 |
| nekopa777 | Yeah, that's what I'm thinking... | 19:14 |
| rghvdberg | you didn't change any hardware ? | 19:14 |
| nekopa777 | Nope, trusty ol' laptop still sitting there... | 19:14 |
| rghvdberg | that should have been fixed by the config purge anyway | 19:14 |
| rghvdberg | ok | 19:15 |
| rghvdberg | open terminal | 19:15 |
| nekopa777 | Done | 19:15 |
| rghvdberg | type ubuntu-bug ubuntustudio-controls | 19:15 |
| rghvdberg | and do the opensource thing | 19:15 |
| rghvdberg | report problems and all the step you took trying to fix it | 19:15 |
| rghvdberg | it's a 99% automated process | 19:15 |
| nekopa777 | Roger that. | 19:15 |
| rghvdberg | ovenworks said that there were some config changes, so my bet was on that | 19:16 |
| rghvdberg | I don't even know if these changes landed already in ustudio | 19:17 |
| nekopa777 | I am going to dig a bit deeper first, looking through the logs it seems like there are a few other programs that are crashing, | 19:17 |
| rghvdberg | hmm | 19:17 |
| nekopa777 | So it may not be with ubuntustudio-controls, | 19:17 |
| nekopa777 | Looks like bluetooth, zita a2j and a couple of others, which aused to work fine before... | 19:18 |
| rghvdberg | well, welcome to linux I'd like to add | 19:18 |
| rghvdberg | crashing zita | 19:18 |
| rghvdberg | you are special | 19:18 |
| nekopa777 | Cheers, thanks, I've been on Linux for a while now, was on Slackware way back in the day | 19:18 |
| rgh | that's hardcore | 19:19 |
| nekopa777 | Been using Ubuntu for about 2 years as my daily driver and just switched to Studio as I wanted to create some music. | 19:19 |
| nekopa777 | Compiling everything from source was a pain... | 19:19 |
| rgh | I was alerted to Ubuntu Studio Installer | 19:19 |
| rgh | which basically installs all goodies in your buntu of choice | 19:20 |
| rgh | I don't really make that much music anymore | 19:20 |
| nekopa777 | I thought about that, | 19:20 |
| rgh | since I decided I need a plugin and there wasn't one | 19:20 |
| rgh | "I'll do it myself' | 19:20 |
| nekopa777 | But my Xubuntu install had built up a lot of cruft after 2 years so I decided to go fresh | 19:21 |
| nekopa777 | What plugin did you make? | 19:21 |
| rgh | Ninjas2 | 19:21 |
| rgh | best plugin ever of course | 19:21 |
| nekopa777 | I've just started messing with PureData | 19:21 |
| nekopa777 | It's wonderful. | 19:21 |
| rgh | Ninjas2 Is Not Just Another Slicer <- it's another sample slicer | 19:21 |
| nekopa777 | Nice, is that in Kx? | 19:22 |
| rgh | actually I think it's the only foss sample slicer | 19:22 |
| rgh | not in kx I think | 19:22 |
| rgh | binaries on gh | 19:22 |
| rgh | hold on | 19:22 |
| rgh | https://github.com/clearly-broken-software/ninjas2/releases/tag/v0.2.0 | 19:23 |
| nekopa777 | Hey, are you Rob van den Berg? | 19:23 |
| rgh | yes | 19:23 |
| nekopa777 | Wow, nice! | 19:23 |
| rgh | wow ? why wow ? | 19:23 |
| nekopa777 | I've been following Unfa for a while on youtube, and you're always putting up great comments on his live feed | 19:24 |
| rgh | hahaha | 19:25 |
| nekopa777 | I was watching his Zrythm crash counter from summer last night. | 19:25 |
| nekopa777 | :D | 19:25 |
| rgh | that was hilarious | 19:25 |
| rgh | did you see his new Ardour Midi video ? | 19:25 |
| rgh | that's a bloody masterpiece | 19:25 |
| nekopa777 | Yes, I just got Ardour 6.5 | 19:25 |
| rgh | every 3 minutes I'm like : I didn't know that | 19:25 |
| nekopa777 | Threw a little support to the devs | 19:25 |
| rgh | noice | 19:26 |
| rgh | I 'bought' 4.x or 5.x or something | 19:26 |
| rgh | don't remember | 19:26 |
| nekopa777 | Do you mean the midi masterclass? | 19:26 |
| rgh | yes | 19:26 |
| nekopa777 | I haven't! | 19:26 |
| rgh | btw Clearly Broken is a reference to Ardour :-) | 19:26 |
| nekopa777 | I just watched his rant on Ardour midi | 19:27 |
| rgh | oh man 2 hours of midi know how | 19:27 |
| rgh | and it's more than just midi | 19:27 |
| rgh | mixer settings / playlists | 19:27 |
| rgh | really EVERYTHING | 19:27 |
| nekopa777 | I'm still just trying to get to grips with Ardour. | 19:27 |
| nekopa777 | Unfa really puts out some great material. | 19:27 |
| rgh | watch that | 19:27 |
| nekopa777 | I'm set for the evening now :) | 19:28 |
| rgh | it's a bloody shame that in 2020 we do not only fight a pandemic, but jackd too | 19:28 |
| nekopa777 | No shit. | 19:28 |
| rgh | and we found a cure for the pandemic | 19:28 |
| rgh | (which also made me jobless btw) | 19:28 |
| rgh | more or less | 19:28 |
| nekopa777 | But I've been pleasantly surprised by how far music has come on Linux. | 19:29 |
| rgh | I was a professional musician | 19:29 |
| nekopa777 | Damn, | 19:29 |
| nekopa777 | Sorry to hear that. | 19:29 |
| rgh | nekopa777: once it works, it works great | 19:29 |
| rgh | but sometimes we hit a snag | 19:29 |
| nekopa777 | I was lucky to snag a job teaching English at a University here in the Czech Rep. that is still holding classes online | 19:30 |
| rgh | I'd rather have 1000 bugs in linux than dealing with windows | 19:30 |
| nekopa777 | I have always hated windows, | 19:30 |
| rgh | Mac is actually pretty good, but overpriced and vendor lock in .. no thanks | 19:30 |
| nekopa777 | Way overpriced... | 19:30 |
| nekopa777 | Anyway, I've gotta go put a kid to bed. | 19:31 |
| rgh | btw, https://github.com/clearly-broken-software/drops/releases/tag/testing | 19:31 |
| rgh | sampler | 19:31 |
| rgh | good night | 19:31 |
| nekopa777 | Thanks for all your help, and I am thinking of joining Unfa's discord | 19:32 |
| nekopa777 | Maybe I'll bump into you there. | 19:32 |
| rgh | I'm always there basically | 19:32 |
| nekopa777 | Thanks for the links, I will check them out. | 19:32 |
| rgh | free spirits join chat.unfa.xyz ;-) | 19:32 |
| nekopa777 | I'll let you know if I ever figure out what went wrong... | 19:32 |
| rgh | check | 19:33 |
| nekopa777 | Is that the rocket chat link, or IRC? | 19:33 |
| nekopa777 | Laters Rob! | 19:33 |
| rgh | rocket | 19:37 |
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