[11:28] <sakrecoer[b]> Have i done something or is there by default 2 font managers and 2 font viewers included in ubuntu studio?
[11:28] <sakrecoer[b]> the manager and viewer included with KDE are very very good...
[11:29] <sakrecoer[b]> the other one (that's been included since way back, gnome based) is good too, but not as good..
[11:29] <sakrecoer[b]> well... imho anyways :D
[11:30] <sakrecoer[b]> ping Eickmeyer ^
[11:32] <sakrecoer[b]> strikes me now that they conflict... i wonder if i somehow managed to pull down one of their variants by inadvertence or if they are both installed at scratch
[11:34] <sakrecoer[b]> KDE font manager wants to install personal fonts in ~/.fonts and other one wants to install them in ~/.local/share/fonts
[11:34] <sakrecoer[b]> KDE sees in ~/.local/share/fonts
[11:34] <sakrecoer[b]> other one needs to have the location ~/.fonts added manually
[11:35] <sakrecoer[b]> "conflict" is an overstatement... The collection they display doesn't match automagically.
[13:00] <guiverc> sakrecoer[b], if you upgraded from a XFCE based Ubuntu Studio to a KDE based Ubuntu Studio (not via re-install), that could cause both XFCE (GTK+) based & KDE (Qt) based font viewers to be installed; but that's just a thought
[15:11] <sakrecoer[b]> thanks guiverc :) but it's a fresh install so i doubt thats the reason.
[15:11] <sakrecoer[b]> i ended up doing `apt remove font-manager font-viewer` and all was good. gotta love the way kde habdles fonts tbh \o/
[15:14] <sakrecoer[b]> `kfontview` replaces `font-viewer` gracefully
[17:30] <nekopa777> Good evening all from the Czech Republic
[17:31] <nekopa777> Trying to find some support for an issue I've had with Ubuntu Studio since the last update.
[17:32] <nekopa777> ubuntustudio-controls no longer is working for me, everytime I try to run it, it segfaults
[17:32] <nekopa777> I am still able to work with audio using carla and QjackCtl
[17:33] <nekopa777> I have tried to update it again, I removed it and reinstalled it again, but still the same issue.
[17:35] <nekopa777> On the ubuntu.com Studio community the last post on the forums was from 2017, so I am not sure where else to look for info and help.
[18:19] <corrinado[m]> nekopa777: Not a lot of folks on here, but I'm sure one of the devs will see it later. This is typically a low-traffic room.
[18:19] <rgh> There gotta be some residual config somewhere
[18:19] <rgh> Removing software doesn't remove your settings.
[18:20] <nekopa777> Yeah, plus it's Christmas too :)
[18:20] <nekopa777> I'm trying to find where the core dumped to to see if there's any more info in there.
[18:20] <nekopa777> I just thought I'd try here as well...
[18:20] <rgh> nekopa777: can you search your home dir for autojack
[18:21] <rgh> Hold on, lemme check my stuff.
[18:21] <rgh> Please notice : I am getting out of my lazy chair for this!
[18:21] <nekopa777> :D Thanks
[18:21] <nekopa777> Can't see anything named autojack
[18:23] <rgh> are you comfertable with the terminal (command line interface)
[18:23] <rgh> I see ~/.config/autojack
[18:23] <rgh> delete the autojack dir if you have it
[18:24] <rgh> also remove ~/.jackdrc
[18:25] <rgh> ~/ <- that's linux talk for your home dir (/home/rob in my case)
[18:25] <nekopa777> got it. I did find this error in /var/log/syslog :
[18:26] <nekopa777> Dec 23 19:24:40 winterfell kernel: [ 4360.536085] traps: ubuntustudio-co[6187] general protection fault ip:7f69998e46a7 sp:7ffd2f202468 error:0 in libc-2.31.so[7f699977e000+178000]
[18:26] <rgh> I think that's basically a segfault
[18:27] <rgh> I dunno if a backtrace from the coredump is possible
[18:27] <nekopa777> Ok, no autojack, I will try removing .jackdrc
[18:27] <rgh> no autojack config ? really ?
[18:27] <rgh> huh
[18:28] <nekopa777> Removing jackdrc didn't help.
[18:28] <rgh> sudo apt purge ubuntustudio-controls
[18:28] <nekopa777> Let me look in the config folder...
[18:28] <rgh> tried that ?
[18:28] <rgh> oh hold on
[18:28] <nekopa777> nope, will try that next...
[18:28] <rgh> checking something
[18:29] <nekopa777> ok, found autojack, it was in the .config folder
[18:29] <rgh> yes, as I pasted above ;-)
[18:29] <rgh> don't panick
[18:29] <rgh> we'll sort it out :-)
[18:30]  * rgh is searching for some cli fu commands
[18:30] <nekopa777> Missed that, ok, removing autojack now...
[18:30] <rgh> be patient
[18:30] <rgh> (I don't really know how the `find` command works
[18:31] <nekopa777> No change.
[18:31] <rgh> hold on
[18:31] <rgh> pulseaudio could be the culprit
[18:31] <nekopa777> Should I try the purge command? I removed then reinstalled ubuntustudio-controls, to no avail
[18:32] <rgh> pro tip : curl cheat.sh/find
[18:32] <rgh> this will dump a cheat sheet in your terminal :-0
[18:32] <nekopa777> Nice!
[18:32] <rgh> curl cheat.sh/<command>
[18:33] <nekopa777> carla is still coming up with most of my config intact, so I can still get sound
[18:33] <rgh> so I need find . -iname 'pulse' (probably)
[18:33] <rgh> oh, jack is still running then
[18:33] <rgh> or carla is autostarting jack
[18:33] <nekopa777> The pulse audio mixer comes up fine still.
[18:33] <rgh> don't do that
[18:33] <rgh> oh
[18:34] <nekopa777> I can still wire stuff up in carla, pulseaudio is still showing the jack sinks and sources
[18:35] <rgh> sudo apt purge pulseaudio-module-jack
[18:35] <rgh> that's the bridge
[18:36] <rgh> after that try
[18:36] <rgh> sudo apt autopurge
[18:36] <nekopa777> Ok, should I purge pulse first, or ubuntustudio-controls?
[18:36] <rgh> don't purge pulse!
[18:36] <rgh> only the bridge
[18:37] <nekopa777> ok.
[18:37] <rgh> purge studio controls
[18:37] <rgh> afer that try autopurge
[18:37] <rgh> maybe apt removes all bridges and stuff
[18:37] <nekopa777> I will do that now...
[18:37] <rgh> unless you once, in the past, installed that manually
[18:37] <rgh> after that
[18:37] <rgh> rm -rf ~/.config/pulse
[18:38] <rgh> oh
[18:38] <rgh> run this
[18:38] <nekopa777> No, this was an fresh install from the Ubuntu Studio ISO, been working fine for a few months, then did an update the other day and something got borked.
[18:38] <rgh> find . -iname 'pulse'
[18:38] <rgh> 20.10 install ?
[18:39] <nekopa777> 20.04 I believe...
[18:39] <rgh> hm
[18:39] <rgh> and the update was just a regular sudo apt get upgrade
[18:40] <rgh> oh, matrix might have borked some text formatting
[18:40] <nekopa777> The update was the pop-up window from software updater I think, let me see it that has some error logs...
[18:40] <rgh> `find ./ -iname "*pulse*"`
[18:40] <rgh> this will find all pulse stuff in your home dir
[18:41] <nekopa777> hmm, no the software updater is saying it failed to download the repository info...
[18:42] <rgh> ok
[18:42] <rgh> time for the command line
[18:43] <nekopa777> ok, I have a terminal open
[18:43] <rgh> sudo apt update
[18:43] <nekopa777> Done.
[18:44] <rgh> sudo apt upgrade
[18:44] <rgh> could take a while
[18:45] <nekopa777> Did nothing on the upgrade...
[18:45] <nekopa777> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[18:46] <rgh> find ./ -iname "*pulse*"
[18:46] <rgh> ah crap
[18:46] <rgh> hold on
[18:46] <rgh> gotta check irc
[18:46] <rgh> I am on matrix and it uses markdown
[18:46] <nekopa777> Cheers
[18:46] <rgh> and I'm not sure if the commands I type and see, are the same on irc
[18:46] <nekopa777> aha.
[18:47] <nekopa777> lsb_release -a shows me on Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS
[18:48] <rgh> what's the irc channel actually ?
[18:48] <nekopa777> #ubuntustudio on Freenode
[18:48] <nekopa777> Welcome back!
[18:48] <rghvdberg> does this work ?
[18:49] <rgh> oohh rghvdberg .. that's a smart dude
[18:49] <rghvdberg> thanks!
[18:49] <nekopa777> haha
[18:49] <rgh> and handsome !
[18:49] <rghvdberg> I get that a lot
[18:49] <rgh> hold on, testing something
[18:49] <nekopa777> Ok.
[18:50] <nekopa777> By the way, thanks for trying to help me solve this.
[18:50] <rgh> find ./ -iname "*pulse*"
[18:50] <rgh> the * are visible
[18:50] <rgh> anyway run that
[18:50] <rgh> and see if there are any residual pulse config
[18:51] <rgh> nekopa777: this is fun for me
[18:51] <rgh> I like puzzles
[18:51] <rgh> and maybe we've found a bug and we can report it and the software will become better
[18:52] <nekopa777> Ok, its running, so far its found stuff in a few places...
[18:53] <rgh> ~/.config/pulse is normal
[18:53] <rgh> any other pulse directory could be a thing
[18:53] <nekopa777> here is a paste for it: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GHT6gcB8x9/
[18:54] <rghvdberg> seems fine
[18:54] <rghvdberg> that ./pr0n dir worries me though
[18:54] <rghvdberg> ./pr0n/donkeys ... really ?
[18:54] <nekopa777> :D
[18:55] <nekopa777> Gotta pulse a donkey from time to time...
[18:55] <genii> Perhaps they are shrek fans
[18:55] <rghvdberg> well
[18:55] <nekopa777> Did the upgrade not work because I am on the LTS version?
[18:56] <rghvdberg> Somebody once told me the world is gonna roll me
[18:56] <rghvdberg> apt upgrade is stupid linux lingo for update
[18:56] <rghvdberg> apt update == update the package database
[18:57] <nekopa777> I see...
[18:57] <rghvdberg> apt ugprade == update the sofware (download and install newer packages)
[18:57] <rghvdberg> ok, so
[18:57] <nekopa777> It looks like something goofy is going on with my package manager,
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[18:58] <rghvdberg> this is ubuntu
[18:58] <nekopa777> First it couldn't download the packages, so I change the repository location and now it seems hung on trying to refresh the software cache
[18:58] <rghvdberg> not Arch
[18:58] <rghvdberg> what did you do
[18:58] <rghvdberg> you get errors during apt update ?
[18:59] <nekopa777> Moment...
[18:59] <nekopa777> 6 errors...
[18:59] <nekopa777> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/mark-pcnetspec/conky-manager-pm9/ubuntu focal Release' does not have a Release file.
[18:59] <nekopa777> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[18:59] <rghvdberg> oh
[19:00] <rghvdberg> conky
[19:00] <nekopa777> N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details
[19:00] <rghvdberg> did you manually add that ppa ?
[19:00] <nekopa777> E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/me-tv-development/ppa/ubuntu focal Release' does not have a Release file.
[19:00] <nekopa777> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[19:00] <nekopa777> And so on,
[19:01] <nekopa777> Yes manually addded conky to get conky manager,
[19:01] <rgh> ```apt show ubuntustudio-controls
[19:01] <rgh> Package: ubuntustudio-controls
[19:01] <rgh> Version: 1.12.6~20.04.1
[19:01] <nekopa777> And the other one was to set up an SDR
[19:01] <rghvdberg> what's your version ?
[19:02] <rghvdberg> apt show ubuntustudio-controls
[19:02] <rghvdberg> will tell you
[19:02] <nekopa777> Same as yours
[19:02] <rghvdberg> btw,do you have kxstudio repos installed by change ?
[19:02] <nekopa777> Yes
[19:03] <rghvdberg> and have you used cadence
[19:03] <nekopa777> Not that I know of, but in the apt show, it listed cadence as a conflict
[19:04] <rghvdberg> well that should be alright then
[19:05] <rghvdberg> ok try this
[19:05] <rghvdberg> open terminal
[19:05] <nekopa777> And the software cache is still trying to refresh
[19:05] <rghvdberg> never mind that
[19:05] <rghvdberg> in terminal type `autojack`
[19:05] <rghvdberg> after that open studio controls
[19:05] <rghvdberg> don't close the terminal
[19:06] <nekopa777> Should I run studio controls in a new term window?
[19:06] <rghvdberg> just run that normally
[19:07] <rghvdberg> via the menu or something
[19:07] <rghvdberg> (I'm on gnome ..)
[19:07] <nekopa777> (XFCE here)
[19:07] <rghvdberg> (noice)
[19:07] <nekopa777> No response from the menu start, I've opened a new term and will try it there and see what message comes up...
[19:08] <nekopa777> Still the seg fault (core dumped)
[19:08] <rghvdberg> crap
[19:09] <rghvdberg> mmm
[19:09] <nekopa777> Where could I look for a log from the last software update, because something went wrong with it
[19:09] <rghvdberg> that I don't know
[19:09] <rghvdberg> you mean a changelog from ubuntustudio-controls ?
[19:10] <rghvdberg>  /var/log/apt/
[19:10] <rghvdberg> maybe term.log or history.log
[19:11] <nekopa777> Nope. The software updater that runs from time to time, pops up a window and asks you to update somethings.
[19:11] <nekopa777> This issue started right after it had run,
[19:12] <rghvdberg> did you reboot since then ?
[19:12] <rghvdberg> oppa windows style
[19:13] <nekopa777> Yes, I've turned it off and on a few times since, as sometimes the sound goes out and I don't know how to set up all the bridges manually...
[19:13] <rghvdberg> ah crap
[19:13] <rghvdberg> well, it's time to summon the gods
[19:13] <rghvdberg> we need OvenWerks
[19:13] <rghvdberg> I'm out of options
[19:13] <rghvdberg> purge configs, purge software, reboot, reinstall
[19:14] <rghvdberg> that should normally do it in my experience
[19:14] <rghvdberg> UNLESS we've hit a rare bug
[19:14] <nekopa777> Yeah, that's what I'm thinking...
[19:14] <rghvdberg> you didn't change any hardware ?
[19:14] <nekopa777> Nope, trusty ol' laptop still sitting there...
[19:14] <rghvdberg> that should have been fixed by the config purge anyway
[19:15] <rghvdberg> ok
[19:15] <rghvdberg> open terminal
[19:15] <nekopa777> Done
[19:15] <rghvdberg> type ubuntu-bug ubuntustudio-controls
[19:15] <rghvdberg> and do the opensource thing
[19:15] <rghvdberg> report problems and all the step you took trying to fix it
[19:15] <rghvdberg> it's a 99% automated process
[19:15] <nekopa777> Roger that.
[19:16] <rghvdberg> ovenworks said that there were some config changes, so my bet was on that
[19:17] <rghvdberg> I don't even know if these changes landed already in ustudio
[19:17] <nekopa777> I am going to dig a bit deeper first, looking through the logs it seems like there are a few other programs that are crashing,
[19:17] <rghvdberg> hmm
[19:17] <nekopa777> So it may not be with ubuntustudio-controls,
[19:18] <nekopa777> Looks like bluetooth, zita a2j and a couple of others, which aused to work fine before...
[19:18] <rghvdberg> well, welcome to linux I'd like to add
[19:18] <rghvdberg> crashing zita
[19:18] <rghvdberg> you are special
[19:18] <nekopa777> Cheers, thanks, I've been on Linux for a while now, was on Slackware way back in the day
[19:19] <rgh> that's hardcore
[19:19] <nekopa777> Been using Ubuntu for about 2 years as my daily driver and just switched to Studio as I wanted to create some music.
[19:19] <nekopa777> Compiling everything from source was a pain...
[19:19] <rgh> I was alerted to Ubuntu Studio Installer
[19:20] <rgh> which basically installs all goodies in your buntu of choice
[19:20] <rgh> I don't really make that much music anymore
[19:20] <nekopa777> I thought about that,
[19:20] <rgh> since I decided I need a plugin and there wasn't one
[19:20] <rgh> "I'll do it myself'
[19:21] <nekopa777> But my Xubuntu install had built up a lot of cruft after 2 years so I decided to go fresh
[19:21] <nekopa777> What plugin did you make?
[19:21] <rgh> Ninjas2
[19:21] <rgh> best plugin ever of course
[19:21] <nekopa777> I've just started messing with PureData
[19:21] <nekopa777> It's wonderful.
[19:21] <rgh> Ninjas2 Is Not Just Another Slicer  <- it's another sample slicer
[19:22] <nekopa777> Nice, is that in Kx?
[19:22] <rgh> actually I think it's the only foss sample slicer
[19:22] <rgh> not in kx I think
[19:22] <rgh> binaries on gh
[19:22] <rgh> hold on
[19:23] <rgh> https://github.com/clearly-broken-software/ninjas2/releases/tag/v0.2.0
[19:23] <nekopa777> Hey, are you Rob van den Berg?
[19:23] <rgh> yes
[19:23] <nekopa777> Wow, nice!
[19:23] <rgh> wow ? why wow ?
[19:24] <nekopa777> I've been following Unfa for a while on youtube, and you're always putting up great comments on his live feed
[19:25] <rgh> hahaha
[19:25] <nekopa777> I was watching his Zrythm crash counter from summer last night.
[19:25] <nekopa777> :D
[19:25] <rgh> that was hilarious
[19:25] <rgh> did you see his new Ardour Midi video ?
[19:25] <rgh> that's a bloody masterpiece
[19:25] <nekopa777> Yes, I just got Ardour 6.5
[19:25] <rgh> every 3 minutes I'm like : I didn't know that
[19:25] <nekopa777> Threw a little support to the devs
[19:26] <rgh> noice
[19:26] <rgh> I 'bought' 4.x or 5.x or something
[19:26] <rgh> don't remember
[19:26] <nekopa777> Do you mean the midi masterclass?
[19:26] <rgh> yes
[19:26] <nekopa777> I haven't!
[19:26] <rgh> btw Clearly Broken is a reference to Ardour :-)
[19:27] <nekopa777> I just watched his rant on Ardour midi
[19:27] <rgh> oh man 2 hours of midi know how
[19:27] <rgh> and it's more than just midi
[19:27] <rgh> mixer settings / playlists
[19:27] <rgh> really EVERYTHING
[19:27] <nekopa777> I'm still just trying to get to grips with Ardour.
[19:27] <nekopa777> Unfa really puts out some great material.
[19:27] <rgh> watch that
[19:28] <nekopa777> I'm set for the evening now :)
[19:28] <rgh> it's a bloody shame that in 2020 we do not only fight a pandemic, but jackd too
[19:28] <nekopa777> No shit.
[19:28] <rgh> and we found a cure for the pandemic
[19:28] <rgh> (which also made me jobless btw)
[19:28] <rgh> more or less
[19:29] <nekopa777> But I've been pleasantly surprised by how far music has come on Linux.
[19:29] <rgh> I was a professional musician
[19:29] <nekopa777> Damn,
[19:29] <nekopa777> Sorry to hear that.
[19:29] <rgh> nekopa777: once it works, it works great
[19:29] <rgh> but sometimes we hit a snag
[19:30] <nekopa777> I was lucky to snag a job teaching English at a University here in the Czech Rep. that is still holding classes online
[19:30] <rgh> I'd rather have 1000 bugs in linux than dealing with windows
[19:30] <nekopa777> I have always hated windows,
[19:30] <rgh> Mac is actually pretty good, but overpriced and vendor lock in .. no thanks
[19:30] <nekopa777> Way overpriced...
[19:31] <nekopa777> Anyway, I've gotta go put a kid to bed.
[19:31] <rgh> btw,  https://github.com/clearly-broken-software/drops/releases/tag/testing
[19:31] <rgh> sampler
[19:31] <rgh> good night
[19:32] <nekopa777> Thanks for all your help, and I am thinking of joining Unfa's discord
[19:32] <nekopa777> Maybe I'll bump into you there.
[19:32] <rgh> I'm always there basically
[19:32] <nekopa777> Thanks for the links, I will check them out.
[19:32] <rgh> free spirits join chat.unfa.xyz ;-)
[19:32] <nekopa777> I'll let you know if I ever figure out what went wrong...
[19:33] <rgh> check
[19:33] <nekopa777> Is that the rocket chat link, or IRC?
[19:33] <nekopa777> Laters Rob!
[19:37] <rgh> rocket