[11:28] Have i done something or is there by default 2 font managers and 2 font viewers included in ubuntu studio? [11:28] the manager and viewer included with KDE are very very good... [11:29] the other one (that's been included since way back, gnome based) is good too, but not as good.. [11:29] well... imho anyways :D [11:30] ping Eickmeyer ^ [11:32] strikes me now that they conflict... i wonder if i somehow managed to pull down one of their variants by inadvertence or if they are both installed at scratch [11:34] KDE font manager wants to install personal fonts in ~/.fonts and other one wants to install them in ~/.local/share/fonts [11:34] KDE sees in ~/.local/share/fonts [11:34] other one needs to have the location ~/.fonts added manually [11:35] "conflict" is an overstatement... The collection they display doesn't match automagically. [13:00] sakrecoer[b], if you upgraded from a XFCE based Ubuntu Studio to a KDE based Ubuntu Studio (not via re-install), that could cause both XFCE (GTK+) based & KDE (Qt) based font viewers to be installed; but that's just a thought [15:11] thanks guiverc :) but it's a fresh install so i doubt thats the reason. [15:11] i ended up doing `apt remove font-manager font-viewer` and all was good. gotta love the way kde habdles fonts tbh \o/ [15:14] `kfontview` replaces `font-viewer` gracefully [17:30] Good evening all from the Czech Republic [17:31] Trying to find some support for an issue I've had with Ubuntu Studio since the last update. [17:32] ubuntustudio-controls no longer is working for me, everytime I try to run it, it segfaults [17:32] I am still able to work with audio using carla and QjackCtl [17:33] I have tried to update it again, I removed it and reinstalled it again, but still the same issue. [17:35] On the ubuntu.com Studio community the last post on the forums was from 2017, so I am not sure where else to look for info and help. [18:19] nekopa777: Not a lot of folks on here, but I'm sure one of the devs will see it later. This is typically a low-traffic room. [18:19] There gotta be some residual config somewhere [18:19] Removing software doesn't remove your settings. [18:20] Yeah, plus it's Christmas too :) [18:20] I'm trying to find where the core dumped to to see if there's any more info in there. [18:20] I just thought I'd try here as well... [18:20] nekopa777: can you search your home dir for autojack [18:21] Hold on, lemme check my stuff. [18:21] Please notice : I am getting out of my lazy chair for this! [18:21] :D Thanks [18:21] Can't see anything named autojack [18:23] are you comfertable with the terminal (command line interface) [18:23] I see ~/.config/autojack [18:23] delete the autojack dir if you have it [18:24] also remove ~/.jackdrc [18:25] ~/ <- that's linux talk for your home dir (/home/rob in my case) [18:25] got it. I did find this error in /var/log/syslog : [18:26] Dec 23 19:24:40 winterfell kernel: [ 4360.536085] traps: ubuntustudio-co[6187] general protection fault ip:7f69998e46a7 sp:7ffd2f202468 error:0 in libc-2.31.so[7f699977e000+178000] [18:26] I think that's basically a segfault [18:27] I dunno if a backtrace from the coredump is possible [18:27] Ok, no autojack, I will try removing .jackdrc [18:27] no autojack config ? really ? [18:27] huh [18:28] Removing jackdrc didn't help. [18:28] sudo apt purge ubuntustudio-controls [18:28] Let me look in the config folder... [18:28] tried that ? [18:28] oh hold on [18:28] nope, will try that next... [18:28] checking something [18:29] ok, found autojack, it was in the .config folder [18:29] yes, as I pasted above ;-) [18:29] don't panick [18:29] we'll sort it out :-) [18:30] * rgh is searching for some cli fu commands [18:30] Missed that, ok, removing autojack now... [18:30] be patient [18:30] (I don't really know how the `find` command works [18:31] No change. [18:31] hold on [18:31] pulseaudio could be the culprit [18:31] Should I try the purge command? I removed then reinstalled ubuntustudio-controls, to no avail [18:32] pro tip : curl cheat.sh/find [18:32] this will dump a cheat sheet in your terminal :-0 [18:32] Nice! [18:32] curl cheat.sh/ [18:33] carla is still coming up with most of my config intact, so I can still get sound [18:33] so I need find . -iname 'pulse' (probably) [18:33] oh, jack is still running then [18:33] or carla is autostarting jack [18:33] The pulse audio mixer comes up fine still. [18:33] don't do that [18:33] oh [18:34] I can still wire stuff up in carla, pulseaudio is still showing the jack sinks and sources [18:35] sudo apt purge pulseaudio-module-jack [18:35] that's the bridge [18:36] after that try [18:36] sudo apt autopurge [18:36] Ok, should I purge pulse first, or ubuntustudio-controls? [18:36] don't purge pulse! [18:36] only the bridge [18:37] ok. [18:37] purge studio controls [18:37] afer that try autopurge [18:37] maybe apt removes all bridges and stuff [18:37] I will do that now... [18:37] unless you once, in the past, installed that manually [18:37] after that [18:37] rm -rf ~/.config/pulse [18:38] oh [18:38] run this [18:38] No, this was an fresh install from the Ubuntu Studio ISO, been working fine for a few months, then did an update the other day and something got borked. [18:38] find . -iname 'pulse' [18:38] 20.10 install ? [18:39] 20.04 I believe... [18:39] hm [18:39] and the update was just a regular sudo apt get upgrade [18:40] oh, matrix might have borked some text formatting [18:40] The update was the pop-up window from software updater I think, let me see it that has some error logs... [18:40] `find ./ -iname "*pulse*"` [18:40] this will find all pulse stuff in your home dir [18:41] hmm, no the software updater is saying it failed to download the repository info... [18:42] ok [18:42] time for the command line [18:43] ok, I have a terminal open [18:43] sudo apt update [18:43] Done. [18:44] sudo apt upgrade [18:44] could take a while [18:45] Did nothing on the upgrade... [18:45] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded [18:46] find ./ -iname "*pulse*" [18:46] ah crap [18:46] hold on [18:46] gotta check irc [18:46] I am on matrix and it uses markdown [18:46] Cheers [18:46] and I'm not sure if the commands I type and see, are the same on irc [18:46] aha. [18:47] lsb_release -a shows me on Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS [18:48] what's the irc channel actually ? [18:48] #ubuntustudio on Freenode [18:48] Welcome back! [18:48] does this work ? [18:49] oohh rghvdberg .. that's a smart dude [18:49] thanks! [18:49] haha [18:49] and handsome ! [18:49] I get that a lot [18:49] hold on, testing something [18:49] Ok. [18:50] By the way, thanks for trying to help me solve this. [18:50] find ./ -iname "*pulse*" [18:50] the * are visible [18:50] anyway run that [18:50] and see if there are any residual pulse config [18:51] nekopa777: this is fun for me [18:51] I like puzzles [18:51] and maybe we've found a bug and we can report it and the software will become better [18:52] Ok, its running, so far its found stuff in a few places... [18:53] ~/.config/pulse is normal [18:53] any other pulse directory could be a thing [18:53] here is a paste for it: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GHT6gcB8x9/ [18:54] seems fine [18:54] that ./pr0n dir worries me though [18:54] ./pr0n/donkeys ... really ? [18:54] :D [18:55] Gotta pulse a donkey from time to time... [18:55] Perhaps they are shrek fans [18:55] well [18:55] Did the upgrade not work because I am on the LTS version? [18:56] Somebody once told me the world is gonna roll me [18:56] apt upgrade is stupid linux lingo for update [18:56] apt update == update the package database [18:57] I see... [18:57] apt ugprade == update the sofware (download and install newer packages) [18:57] ok, so [18:57] It looks like something goofy is going on with my package manager, [18:57] doubt [18:58] this is ubuntu [18:58] First it couldn't download the packages, so I change the repository location and now it seems hung on trying to refresh the software cache [18:58] not Arch [18:58] what did you do [18:58] you get errors during apt update ? [18:59] Moment... [18:59] 6 errors... [18:59] E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/mark-pcnetspec/conky-manager-pm9/ubuntu focal Release' does not have a Release file. [18:59] N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. [18:59] oh [19:00] conky [19:00] N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details [19:00] did you manually add that ppa ? [19:00] E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/me-tv-development/ppa/ubuntu focal Release' does not have a Release file. [19:00] N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. [19:00] And so on, [19:01] Yes manually addded conky to get conky manager, [19:01] ```apt show ubuntustudio-controls [19:01] Package: ubuntustudio-controls [19:01] Version: 1.12.6~20.04.1 [19:01] And the other one was to set up an SDR [19:01] what's your version ? [19:02] apt show ubuntustudio-controls [19:02] will tell you [19:02] Same as yours [19:02] btw,do you have kxstudio repos installed by change ? [19:02] Yes [19:03] and have you used cadence [19:03] Not that I know of, but in the apt show, it listed cadence as a conflict [19:04] well that should be alright then [19:05] ok try this [19:05] open terminal [19:05] And the software cache is still trying to refresh [19:05] never mind that [19:05] in terminal type `autojack` [19:05] after that open studio controls [19:05] don't close the terminal [19:06] Should I run studio controls in a new term window? [19:06] just run that normally [19:07] via the menu or something [19:07] (I'm on gnome ..) [19:07] (XFCE here) [19:07] (noice) [19:07] No response from the menu start, I've opened a new term and will try it there and see what message comes up... [19:08] Still the seg fault (core dumped) [19:08] crap [19:09] mmm [19:09] Where could I look for a log from the last software update, because something went wrong with it [19:09] that I don't know [19:09] you mean a changelog from ubuntustudio-controls ? [19:10] /var/log/apt/ [19:10] maybe term.log or history.log [19:11] Nope. The software updater that runs from time to time, pops up a window and asks you to update somethings. [19:11] This issue started right after it had run, [19:12] did you reboot since then ? [19:12] oppa windows style [19:13] Yes, I've turned it off and on a few times since, as sometimes the sound goes out and I don't know how to set up all the bridges manually... [19:13] ah crap [19:13] well, it's time to summon the gods [19:13] we need OvenWerks [19:13] I'm out of options [19:13] purge configs, purge software, reboot, reinstall [19:14] that should normally do it in my experience [19:14] UNLESS we've hit a rare bug [19:14] Yeah, that's what I'm thinking... [19:14] you didn't change any hardware ? [19:14] Nope, trusty ol' laptop still sitting there... [19:14] that should have been fixed by the config purge anyway [19:15] ok [19:15] open terminal [19:15] Done [19:15] type ubuntu-bug ubuntustudio-controls [19:15] and do the opensource thing [19:15] report problems and all the step you took trying to fix it [19:15] it's a 99% automated process [19:15] Roger that. [19:16] ovenworks said that there were some config changes, so my bet was on that [19:17] I don't even know if these changes landed already in ustudio [19:17] I am going to dig a bit deeper first, looking through the logs it seems like there are a few other programs that are crashing, [19:17] hmm [19:17] So it may not be with ubuntustudio-controls, [19:18] Looks like bluetooth, zita a2j and a couple of others, which aused to work fine before... [19:18] well, welcome to linux I'd like to add [19:18] crashing zita [19:18] you are special [19:18] Cheers, thanks, I've been on Linux for a while now, was on Slackware way back in the day [19:19] that's hardcore [19:19] Been using Ubuntu for about 2 years as my daily driver and just switched to Studio as I wanted to create some music. [19:19] Compiling everything from source was a pain... [19:19] I was alerted to Ubuntu Studio Installer [19:20] which basically installs all goodies in your buntu of choice [19:20] I don't really make that much music anymore [19:20] I thought about that, [19:20] since I decided I need a plugin and there wasn't one [19:20] "I'll do it myself' [19:21] But my Xubuntu install had built up a lot of cruft after 2 years so I decided to go fresh [19:21] What plugin did you make? [19:21] Ninjas2 [19:21] best plugin ever of course [19:21] I've just started messing with PureData [19:21] It's wonderful. [19:21] Ninjas2 Is Not Just Another Slicer <- it's another sample slicer [19:22] Nice, is that in Kx? [19:22] actually I think it's the only foss sample slicer [19:22] not in kx I think [19:22] binaries on gh [19:22] hold on [19:23] https://github.com/clearly-broken-software/ninjas2/releases/tag/v0.2.0 [19:23] Hey, are you Rob van den Berg? [19:23] yes [19:23] Wow, nice! [19:23] wow ? why wow ? [19:24] I've been following Unfa for a while on youtube, and you're always putting up great comments on his live feed [19:25] hahaha [19:25] I was watching his Zrythm crash counter from summer last night. [19:25] :D [19:25] that was hilarious [19:25] did you see his new Ardour Midi video ? [19:25] that's a bloody masterpiece [19:25] Yes, I just got Ardour 6.5 [19:25] every 3 minutes I'm like : I didn't know that [19:25] Threw a little support to the devs [19:26] noice [19:26] I 'bought' 4.x or 5.x or something [19:26] don't remember [19:26] Do you mean the midi masterclass? [19:26] yes [19:26] I haven't! [19:26] btw Clearly Broken is a reference to Ardour :-) [19:27] I just watched his rant on Ardour midi [19:27] oh man 2 hours of midi know how [19:27] and it's more than just midi [19:27] mixer settings / playlists [19:27] really EVERYTHING [19:27] I'm still just trying to get to grips with Ardour. [19:27] Unfa really puts out some great material. [19:27] watch that [19:28] I'm set for the evening now :) [19:28] it's a bloody shame that in 2020 we do not only fight a pandemic, but jackd too [19:28] No shit. [19:28] and we found a cure for the pandemic [19:28] (which also made me jobless btw) [19:28] more or less [19:29] But I've been pleasantly surprised by how far music has come on Linux. [19:29] I was a professional musician [19:29] Damn, [19:29] Sorry to hear that. [19:29] nekopa777: once it works, it works great [19:29] but sometimes we hit a snag [19:30] I was lucky to snag a job teaching English at a University here in the Czech Rep. that is still holding classes online [19:30] I'd rather have 1000 bugs in linux than dealing with windows [19:30] I have always hated windows, [19:30] Mac is actually pretty good, but overpriced and vendor lock in .. no thanks [19:30] Way overpriced... [19:31] Anyway, I've gotta go put a kid to bed. [19:31] btw, https://github.com/clearly-broken-software/drops/releases/tag/testing [19:31] sampler [19:31] good night [19:32] Thanks for all your help, and I am thinking of joining Unfa's discord [19:32] Maybe I'll bump into you there. [19:32] I'm always there basically [19:32] Thanks for the links, I will check them out. [19:32] free spirits join chat.unfa.xyz ;-) [19:32] I'll let you know if I ever figure out what went wrong... [19:33] check [19:33] Is that the rocket chat link, or IRC? [19:33] Laters Rob! [19:37] rocket