 @amyosx [That's android/Linux not gnu/Linux or busybox/linux], *bionic + linux = android :p
 @Fuseteam [*bionic + linux = android :p], I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as Android, is infact, Google/Android. Or as I've recently taken to calling it, Google+Android. Andro--
 @just_carlod [but unluckly canonical and uports drop support for lots of features  :(], i mean we only dropped scopes so far, and it could come back if we ever figure it out
 @yiidnewsted [I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as Android, i …], No, yiğit, it's 'Android', not 'Google/Android'. The most important contributions that Google made to Android were the acquisition of Android Inc. and the fund--
 @yiidnewsted [I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as Android, i …], hehehe i got my own version of that too
 @ptrcnull [No, yiğit, it's 'Android', not 'Google/Android'. The most important contribution …], lmao nice
 @ptrcnull [No, yiğit, it's 'Android', not 'Google/Android'. The most important contribution …], LMAO
 (it's a [copypasta](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13337163) too)
 we know we know
 I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as ubports, is infact, ubuntu touch. Or as I've recently taken to calling it, UT. UBpo--
 [Edit] I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as UBports, is infact called Ubuntu Touch. Or as I've recently taken to calling it, UT. UBpo--
 [Edit] I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as convergence, is infact, external display  support. Or as I've recently taken to calling it, ExDisplay. Convergence is more th--
 how to reinstall android after install ubuntu touch
 by following the instruction on the vendor website iirc
 not sure if the installer handles stock android
 @Fuseteam [not sure if the installer handles stock android], in some cases theres no reason it couldnt, there arent many devices that have android as an option in the installer, I had one for my note 4 but since I couldnt get permission from the dev (they never responded) I opted to remove it
 @Fuseteam [by following the instruction on the vendor website iirc], where can i found for redmi note 7?
 (Photo, 959x581) https://irc.ubports.com/iQNqgshA.png Anyone experiencing this error? Before nothing would show up but I've confirmed the MMS settings match an Android phone in the same network but still no dice.
 @Shakendo [in some cases theres no reason it couldnt, there arent many devices that have an …], ah i see
 @Hisbul_Wathoni [where can i found for redmi note 7?], on xiaomi's website :p
 @Fuseteam [on xiaomi's website :p], i'm use orange fox recovery for my lavender, is the recovery erased after install ubuntu touch?
 @Hisbul_Wathoni [i'm use orange fox recovery for my lavender, is the recovery erased after instal …], if it's anything like jasmine/A2 then it doesn't have a recovery partition and patching twrp into boot.img will break ubports
 @Hisbul_Wathoni [i'm use orange fox recovery for my lavender, is the recovery erased after instal …], yes it is
 so yeah I think so, as the recovery lives in the boot partition on A/B deviced
 thank you
[03:11] <ubptgbot> raflyfarid was added by: raflyfarid
[04:11] <ubptgbot> <J W> So I got around to trying to build from source the ubports installer on my Pinebook Pro as an AppImage. I am able to get the GUI up and running but it gives me this error message on startup "The Installation stopped due to a problem" and also states this "Error: unhandled rejection at [object Promise]: Error: {"error":{"errno":"ENOENT","code"
[04:11] <ubptgbot> :"ENOENT","syscall":"spawn adb","path":"adb","spawnargs":["-P",5037,"kill-server"],"cmd":"adb -P 5037 kill-server"}}". Is there anything I am missing or is there a problem with my packaging?
 do you have `adb` and `fastboot` tools installed?
 @AlexanderPlaza [<reply to media>], That's a new feature just introduced in UT to discover a missed MMS. In fact, as you probably know, UT sometimes, for instance in case of lack of connectivity, doesn't properly handle MMS reception. You might want to have a look in this Forum thread for additional infomation:  https://forums.ubports.c
[04:48] <ubptgbot> om/topic/5100/the-mms-lost-story?_=1608871442748
 @AlexanderPlaza [<reply to media>], [Edit] That's a new feature just introduced in UT to discover a missed MMS. In fact, as you probably know, UT sometimes, for instance in case of lack of connectivity, doesn't properly handle MMS reception. You might want to have a look at this Forum thread for additional infomation:  https://forums.ub
[04:49] <ubptgbot> ports.com/topic/5100/the-mms-lost-story?_=1608871442748
 (Photo, 388x800) https://irc.ubports.com/bx58983O.png В соседнем офисе уже елка новогодняя горит, а в нашем только моя ?опа :) … С наступающим сезоном праздников! 🎄
 (Photo, 480x639) https://irc.ubports.com/AaDmWE7G.png
 (Photo, 480x639) https://irc.ubports.com/l80tShdz.png
[05:43] <ubptgbot> <J W> @dohbee [do you have adb and fastboot tools installed?], No, will look into trying to install them. Are they available on Arch repos or AUR?
 С наступающим ☺
 @J W [No, will look into trying to install them. Are they available on Arch repos or A …], Everything is in aur xd
 but iirc fastboot and adb are also in standard arch repos
 @J W [No, will look into trying to install them. Are they available on Arch repos or A …], yeah theyre in standard
 Is there a chance to get pinetab? Or it is just out for good?
 @SomaSchicksal [Is there a chance to get pinetab? Or it is just out for good?], they have problem with lcd screens, next batch will probably be beetwen january and april
 Interesting
 Are there any other tablet that are worth looking for that support UT?
 devices.ubuntu-touch.io
 Nexus 7 is the only other one i managed to find
 Bq Aquaris M10 FHD (frieza)
 eg
 i do know of the list but most of them are no longer exist
 thanks though
 not much tablets I guess because Android also failed on tablets
 true
 @SomaSchicksal [i do know of the list but most of them are no longer exist], There is the Sony tablet too. Z4?
 How do I uninstall anbox
 ??
 very interesting Lionelb
 @Fuseteam [I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as convergenc …], Yes
 I think I maaaay have a Z4 somewhere
 @WolfLink115 [Good luck], Step 1) boot cyanogenmod xD
 What's recommended if both are possible (cause neither has been done), 5.1 or 7.1?
 @amyosx [What's recommended if both are possible (cause neither has been done), 5.1 or 7. …], 7.1 AFAIK
 @sandysmart [How do I uninstall anbox], Anyone help on this please
 @sandysmart [Anyone help on this please], I believe it is sudo snap remove anbox
[10:31] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> send me the command how to install it i give you how to uninstall it
 Not 100% sure tho
 @Oxy Kali [send me the command how to install it i give you how to uninstall it], Sudo apt install anbox-ubuntu-touch
[10:32] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> Sudo apt rm anbox-ubuntu-touch
 How to setup libertine?
 everything I do doesn't work
 I ran firefox in libretine and it works and looks awful
 @just_carlod [I ran firefox in libretine and it works and looks awful], never managed to do that, how?
 I got Lubuntu app thingy on Libretine
 can't navigate even xD
[10:35] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> @sandysmart [Anyone help on this please], Sudo apt remove anbox-ubuntu-touch or Sudo apt -r i anbox-ubuntu-touch
 tried to play with API but never managed to download anything
 @Oxy Kali [Sudo apt remove anbox-ubuntu-touch or Sudo apt -r i anbox-ubuntu-touch], Not working
 @sandysmart [Not working], you need to mount system as read write
 @ItsMeShouko [never managed to do that, how?], I've just setup libertine and then install firefox, but it wasn't scale correctly and i couldn't search anything in the internet
 when I opened new tab it said "sorry, this tab is broken" or something like that
 @just_carlod [I've just setup libertine and then install firefox, but it wasn't scale correctl …], there is an app on openstore to fix that
 I will be using a keyboard and mouse for libertine apps xD
 @just_carlod [I've just setup libertine and then install firefox, but it wasn't scale correctl …], Have you used libretine tweaks?
 @just_carlod [I've just setup libertine and then install firefox, but it wasn't scale correctl …], [Edit] there is an app on openstore to fix that afaik
 not
 It allows you to adjust API it may get firefox to be usable
 ok, maybe I'll try it later
 @SomaSchicksal [It allows you to adjust API it may get firefox to be usable], does firefox lags in libertine?
 [Edit] It allows you to adjust depi it may get firefox to be usable
 @SomaSchicksal [Have you used libretine tweaks?], I saw scaling there
 @ItsMeShouko [does firefox lags in libertine?], Uhhh
 I haven't used it xD
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/Wrt8YR8q.png
 @ItsMeShouko [you need to mount system as read write], Thanks for the response 🙏🙏🙏
[10:41] <ubptgbot> Erik was added by: Erik
 basically these are it's features
 [Edit] It allows you to adjust dpi it may get firefox to be usable
 Hi everybody, I am a user of UT on volla fone, one month now and since the last update I am very happy with it. I wonder how UT  may work on fairfone, because my wife is thinking about that. Can anybody give a recommendation for fairfone with UT, or is this far worse than with vollafone (my beginning with vollafone was not easy, but thats ok
[10:51] <ubptgbot> ay right now). The main conditions should be in an acceptabel way (mobile Network, Teleports, camera, navigation and E-Mail).
 @Erik [Hi everybody, I am a user of UT on volla fone, one month now and since the last …], Which fairphone?
 The original?
 Uups, I did not know, that there exists unoriginal fairphones.I just wondered, if she may purchase fp2, or if its future oriented,to get a fp3.
 @Erik [Uups, I did not know, that there exists unoriginal fairphones.I just wondered, i …], I meant generation xD
 I think FP2 is more stable
 Let me check
 As long,as this make sense with UT. My wife is "only" a user.
 Yeah get FP2
 @Erik [As long,as this make sense with UT. My wife is "only" a user.], Yeah UT is fine for most uses
 Just remember no banking or contact tracing apps
 @SomaSchicksal [I think I maaaay have a Z4 somewhere], 👍
 Super. Thank you very much.
 @amyosx [Just remember no banking or contact tracing apps], My bank's app is so poorly coded it works under anbox
 @xyn_dev [My bank's app is so poorly coded it works under anbox], Bruh
 Which bank?
 BRD Romania
 Ahh
 Same with SAILFISH OS
[11:15] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> hshstgwtgggwoiwnww
[11:15] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> test
 @Oxy Kali [hshstgwtgggwoiwnww], +1
[11:47] <ubptgbot> Matthew Homan was added by: Matthew Homan
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/8Sjz9nsK.png
 oh boy
 excitement
[12:41] <ubptgbot> <Matthew Homan> 😱LOOK😱👇👇 … [https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1245676554377868901](https://bit.ly/3rutmsc)
 oh come on lol
 (Photo, 591x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/PR8wMPH5.png
 You sure have it much faster than i did
 guys i got a couple questions
 how long does the "Installing update" part take?
 on Nexus 5, atleast
 not too long
 approximately?
 I came across an issue, not sure if it is fixed or not. i had to redo the install process to get it booting
 can't give an approximation cuz i let it install then took a shower xD
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/dRwD2sC1.png
 oh boy
 its booting
 if it didn't boot, you can do it again, this time you have to choose nexus 5 manually, It didn't recognize my nexus 5 as compatible devices
 [Edit] if it didn't boot, you can do it again, this time you have to choose nexus 5 manually, It didn't recognize my nexus 5 as compatible device
 Also, I am planning to "Refurbish" my nexus 5 xD just to play around with UT
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/l8IS3v07.png
 Somehow the side bar disappeared
 Hewwo uwubuntu
 @SomaSchicksal [Somehow the side bar disappeared], Slide
 From left
 Not coming back
 Hmm
 I tried that, now it is fine though
 Switching to an app fixed it
 But now i want to replicate it
 do you have an app on the launcher that has notifications?
 that seem to cause the launcher to be hidden sometimes
 Yes teleport
 Hm odd
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/J7RD1qXE.png
 noice
 Might take some pictures of my bq m10 later
 Showing cool Ubuntu touch things
 @amyosx [Might take some pictures of my bq m10 later], Cool am looking forward to it
 Shoot, my power button on nexus 5 is stuck in, now i gotta make sure this thing never shuts down
 Oof
 (Sticker, 512x188) https://irc.ubports.com/U8uiHtcV.webp
 @amyosx [<reply to media>], am downgrade my qt sar, sfos time
 @SomaSchicksal [But now i want to replicate it], I noticed if an app crashes it might do that
 hm maybe yeah
 so it thinks it still in an app hence why it is hidden
 any way to fix wifi after anbox boot on Nexus 5?
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/kQ9PJsOj.png
 sigh
 i have to install devel to fix wifi
 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 @SomaSchicksal [Shoot, my power button on nexus 5 is stuck in, now i gotta make sure this thing …], that's a known issue on Nexus 5 … one of mine have it though I can still press it with my index finger on my left hand 😄
 Hm, i never used anbox
 @SomaSchicksal [Shoot, my power button on nexus 5 is stuck in, now i gotta make sure this thing …], i... dont even have a power button
 sigh
 what is a power button even?
[15:39] <ubptgbot> <J W> @dohbee [do you have adb and fastboot tools installed?], Ok, I have installed android-tools, from what it says it provides both adb and fastboot. Still having the same issue.
 @yiidnewsted [<reply to media>], Pro af
[15:45] <ubptgbot> <J W> @dohbee [do you have adb and fastboot tools installed?], The error is still happening on the AppImage and when I run it under mom.
[15:45] <ubptgbot> <J W> @dohbee [do you have adb and fastboot tools installed?], [Edit] The error is still happening on the AppImage and when I run it under npm.
[15:55] <ubptgbot> TotoEaster8 was added by: TotoEaster8
 geh stuck ping
 someone ping me pls
 @Fuseteam
 How do you remove a stuck ping? I do have one in another group. 🤔
 @Oxy Kali [Sudo apt remove anbox-ubuntu-touch or Sudo apt -r i anbox-ubuntu-touch], No, this will only remove a few tools used to manage anbox. It won't necessarily get rid of anbox itself, nor the image and installed apps. Also, this is now included in the devel (and maybe rc now) image, so one will not need to remount rootfs and install
[16:13] <ubptgbot> to set up anbox any more.
 @J W [The error is still happening on the AppImage and when I run it under npm.], what happens if you run `adb -P 5037 kill-server` ?
 @yiidnewsted [any way to fix wifi after anbox boot on Nexus 5?], install UT again from installer. there's no need to flash any special anbox boot image any more. also if you're on devel (and maybe rc too now), the `anbox-tool` script is already available so you can skip ahead to just doing `anbox-tool install`
 @Danfro [How do you remove a stuck ping? I do have one in another group. 🤔], dang missed the chance; what i do is have someone ping me and open it in webtelegram
 @dohbee [install UT again from installer. there's no need to flash any special anbox boot …], yeah i fixed it already
 @Fuseteam [dang missed the chance; what i do is have someone ping me and open it in webtele …], I tried that in the other group. Did not work.
 hmm weird
 @Danfro [I tried that in the other group. Did not work.], worked thanks
 wonder if its the reply that did the trick
 @Fuseteam [wonder if its the reply that did the trick], That' an idea. I will try that out.
 good luck 👍
[16:23] <ubptgbot> <J W> @dohbee [what happens if you run adb -P 5037 kill-server ?], Got an error: cannot connect to daemon at tcp:5037: Connection refused
 sounds like it's already running as root or something. i'm not sure. and i don't use arch :)
[16:37] <ubptgbot> <J W> I have tried running at user level and as sudo get the same thing.
 so adb __is\_ installed?
 [Edit] so adb is installed?
 @yiidnewsted [its booting], 🍓🍓🍓
[16:50] <ubptgbot> <J W> @Fuseteam [so adb is installed?], Yes it is installed.
 hmmm
 what do you get for `adb device` when your phone is connected
 [Edit] what do you get for adb device when your phone is connected?
 [Edit] what do you get for `adb devices` when your phone is connected?
[17:00] <ubptgbot> <J W> Nothing unless I enable developer mode.
[17:03] <ubptgbot> <J W> Just in case you missed what I am trying to do is getting the UBports Installer working on a Pinebook Pro running Manjaro. I am not using official builds but, pulling it down from github and building the package as an AppImage and running it under npm trying to get it to work.
[17:04] <ubptgbot> <J W> [Edit] Just in case you missed what I am trying to do, I am trying to get the UBports Installer working on a Pinebook Pro running Manjaro. I am not using official builds but, pulling it down from github and building the package as an AppImage and running it under npm trying to get it to work.
[17:08] <ubptgbot> <J W> I got an |A
[17:09] <ubptgbot> <J W> [Edit] I made an AppImage and also trying it using npm.
 @J W [Nothing unless I enable developer mode.], yes developer mode needs to enabled
 as long as adb and fastboot are able to see the phone the installer should work afaik
 or is the error more related to bring the installer up?
[17:14] <ubptgbot> <J W> It happens on startup of the installer, with or with out a phone connected.
[17:27] <ubptgbot> muhammadazhar08 was added by: muhammadazhar08
 @J W [It happens on startup of the installer, with or with out a phone connected.], ah hmmm
 if the error message itself didn't change it sounds like its unable to find it for some reason
[17:35] <ubptgbot> <J W> I just tried to run as sudo thinking it maybe permissions, it still happened though.
 @J W [I just tried to run as sudo thinking it maybe permissions, it still happened tho …], what distro are you running it on
[17:55] <ubptgbot> <J W> Manjaro KDE
 I can use my nail to press it, but it doesn't retract
 Any update oneplus5 🍔
 @SehjanS [Any update oneplus5 🍔], We are working on something you can try to test, but will take some more days... Some important featurtes need final fixes, like WiFi works but its not visible in GUI
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/EDgAoTHI.png
 Dark mode gang
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/TrL0gyWG.webp
 @amyosx [Dark mode gang], Where white and brown gangs
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/sRpPFrIj.png
 My 2 tablets :)
 Nexus 7 2012 and bq m10 fhd
 ubports for t280 wen
 UBPorts for grouper wen
 why is the nexus 5 this good
 ubports wen
 i feel like if i ever get the screen repaired
 @xyn_dev [ubports wen], Now :)
 i'll switch to it as a daily driver
 I've been using UBPorts as a daily driver OS on my Redmi Note 8T
 ubports for m30s wen
 @amyosx [My 2 tablets :)], Nice oreo
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/hJYzjdXA.png Beautiful theme
 @yiidnewsted [ubports for m30s wen], if this ever happened btw
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/EbcpJ2a0.webp
 nobody could make me use android
 ever again
 @amyosx [<reply to media>], Purple mode eta wen
 Anytime you want 😉
 @amyosx [<reply to media>], My Nexus 7 wasn't usable after about 18 months of purchase. It didn't matter what OS or apps I installed. But it felt like a lovely device. 😞
 @xander2m [My Nexus 7 wasn't usable after about 18 months of purchase. It didn't matter wha …], Cm 11 M12 is the way to go btw
 No gms
 I ended up giving in. Sold it to CEX for about £38, I think.
 @amyosx [<reply to media>], The 2012 Nexus 7 is awful. The 2013 is much better
 @popeydc [The 2012 Nexus 7 is awful. The 2013 is much better], Yes
 @amyosx [<reply to media>], ngl I kinda like this semi-skeumorphic design over the current design
 it feels like it has soul
 @popeydc [The 2012 Nexus 7 is awful. The 2013 is much better], I never bought another tablet after that one.
 @popeydc [The 2012 Nexus 7 is awful. The 2013 is much better], [Edit] I never bought another tablet after that one. Does UT work well on that device?
 only one way to find out
 @SomaSchicksal [only one way to find out], That's what I would say 😂
 I have run UT on a Nexus 7 2013 WiFi (flo) in the past, it worked well.  I imagine it has only gotten better since. … https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/flo/
 👍