[00:05] <stephenmac98> summonner: thank you for the response. I have added the line to the /etc/sudoers file, but the command still gets rejected only when performed over an ssh connection
[00:05] <stephenmac98> So I think it's got to be something in my ssh configuration right?
[00:06] <stephenmac98> I think the core of the error message is "failed to talk to init daemon"
[01:39] <MIF> My connection has been cutting out, how do I fix this?
[01:39] <MIF> or see if it is with my ISP
[01:58] <IniGit> hi
[01:58] <luna_> hi
[01:59] <IniGit> my verdaccio.service cannot create a file within /etc/verdaccio. Do services which need to write to files always have to have root persiomissions? Or what should I do? Tell the service to create the file in an other directory?
[02:00] <IniGit> It needs to create and write to /etc/verdaccio/htpasswd
[02:01] <IniGit> I told the service that it runs as `User=ini`
[02:01] <IniGit> which is my user on the system
[02:12] <leftyfb> IniGit: try changing ownership/permissions of /etc/verdaccio
[02:19] <IniGit> leftyfb: Should a service always run as root?
[02:20] <leftyfb> IniGit: depends on your use-case
[02:20] <IniGit> leftyfb: I'm not sure wheter to do `ExecStart=/home/ini/Programs/node-v14.15.1-linux-x64/lib/node_modules/verdaccio/bin/verdaccio  --config /etc/verdaccio/config.yaml` or `ExecStart=/home/ini/Programs/node-v14.15.1-linux-x64/lib/node_modules/verdaccio/bin/verdaccio  --config /home/ini/.config/verdaccio/config.yaml`
[02:21] <IniGit> The config says that the htpasswd file should be create dat `./htpasswd`
[02:21] <IniGit> leftyfb: What would be the right thing to do for verdaccio? Itz is a private package regsitry
[02:22] <IniGit> `User=root` or `User=ini`
[02:23] <IniGit> I mean when I start verdaccio via the cli without a service I also do not run it as root, because it does not have to write to /etc
[02:23] <IniGit> I mean I'm no server admin, but it makes no sense to me to run this as root only to just follow the conventions
[02:24] <leftyfb> IniGit: then don't run it as root. Or ... follow the verdaccio documentation
[02:25] <IniGit> leftyfb: There's not much documentation about it. It says to run it not as root, but also mentions to put the config into /etc/ which does not work, because it cannot write to the htpasswd file
[02:26] <leftyfb> IniGit: try changing ownership/permissions of /etc/verdaccio , as I've already suggested
[02:28] <IniGit> leftyfb: ok, thx
[02:29] <MIF> so, my server has been disconnecting from all IRC networks
[02:29] <MIF> https://pastebin.pl/view/ed8d805c
[02:29] <MIF> my bot and my client both have been disconneting,
[02:29] <leftyfb> MIF: bad DNS, use a different public nameserver
[02:30] <MIF> I use cloudflare
[02:30] <leftyfb> try a different one
[02:30] <MIF> and that is not the dns name that I use
[02:30] <MIF> so contact cloudflare?
[02:31] <leftyfb> MIF: try a different nameserver. Also, test resolving those endpoints using host or dig using different public nameservers while you are experiencing the issue
[02:31] <MIF> I was off my computer when the issue happned
[02:31] <oerheks> there is #cloudflare here on #freenode
[02:33] <MIF> thank you leftyfb oerheks
[03:57] <bindi> I'm livebooted into ubuntu 20.04 desktop, keyboard works partly - ctrl-alt-t opens terminal but after that I can't type anything? like all the hotkeys work, alt-tab, alt-f4, but actual typing anywhere = no go
[03:57] <bindi> this was with a keyboard over the KVM switch; I now plugged in another keyboard to the front headers and same thing
[03:58] <bindi> this seems to be a problem with the graphical environment only, changing ttys and i can type
[03:59] <squirrel> i'm trying to install ubuntu and the installer window doesn't fit my screen, can i scroll it or something?
[05:18] <amalgameate> hi, i recently tried connecting a 4k display to my ubuntu 16.04 desktop, and the max resolution i'm seeing under display options is 1920x1080.  does anyone know how i can get ubuntu to recognize 4k?
[05:18] <amalgameate> i think part of the problem might be that i'm using a hdmi-to-dp adapter.
[06:03] <prestocaso> hey all
[06:03] <matsaman> hi presto
[06:05] <prestocaso> thinking abut making ubuntu my distro home and I and checking out the community options
[06:06] <matsaman> it's a pretty big community
[06:06] <matsaman> and most of the knowledge will be applicable to any other Debian-based distro
[07:39] <laptopusr> hi, i've noticed that sometimes when i unplug my laptop from the wall, and leave it closed, in the end it reboots it self or X dies or I have no idea what happens, how can i diagnose this (maybe it's a case of battery depleting but i hav no idea)
[07:41] <laptopusr> or let's ask a simpler question, if i close the lid, how can i make sure the laptop will go to hibernate ?
[07:43] <laptopusr> also when grub updates it spets a warning about RESUME= something ?
[07:52] <laptopusr> ahh, ubuntu ubuntu..
[07:57] <laptopusr> ./join #linux
[07:59] <knightwise> hey laptopusr
[07:59] <knightwise> hows it hangin dude
[08:02] <knightwise> heyhey
[08:13] <laptopusr> meh, i hate linux laptop support
[08:13] <unixbsd> what is the name of the Window Manager of the graphical installer of Ubuntu groovy 20.10?
[08:14] <laptopusr> it's 2020 and it's still subar compared to windows
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> unixbsd: ubiquity?
[08:14] <lotuspsychje> laptopusr: please only support questions here
[08:14] <laptopusr> yeah, i've asked, nobody answered
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> patience is golden
[08:15] <laptopusr> i have a hunch it's not in this case
[08:15] <laptopusr> anyhow, if you check the log i was not the one going off topic
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> laptopusr: if you want volunteers to help its also handy if you provide all details too, like ubuntu version, logs, dmesg,..
[08:16] <laptopusr> 18.04, dmesg won't help since the computer rebooted
[08:17] <laptopusr> logs, dont know from all the spam how to get what's needed to diagnose this
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> laptopusr: lets have a look in your dmesg anyway
[08:17] <laptopusr> in general, or after this happens (which i don't plug it off mostly, to not lose work)
[08:18] <laptopusr> also what should I do about that RESUME= warning after grub update ? it might be cause this laptop was installed from an image where the UDID don't match anymore ?
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> laptopusr: you can also collect your journal logs from a previous boot
[08:20] <laptopusr> how so ?
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> laptopusr: journalctl -b -1 show logs from the previous boot for example
[10:48] <eoli3n> HI
[10:48] <eoli3n> Hi*
[10:48] <Deano59> hi eoli3n :)
[10:48] <eoli3n> does the latest installer embeed zfs 2.0?
[10:48] <eoli3n> to be able to install with zstd compression
[10:59] <jpds> eoli3n: latest openzfs package is 0.8.4
[10:59] <eoli3n> oh
[10:59] <eoli3n> ok
[10:59] <jpds> eoli3n: If you want the latest and greatest like that, I suggest you install gentoo
[10:59] <eoli3n> huhu
[11:00] <eoli3n> your suggestion seems strange, arch or void seems more the way
[11:00] <eoli3n> but here, that's not for my usage
[11:00] <eoli3n> for my mother so ubuntu is ok ;)
[11:25] <Deano59> jpds: gentoo? really?
[11:28] <XATRIX> Hi, can you advice , i'm trying to remove all versions of PHP except native one . I mean like 'php-common'
[11:28] <XATRIX> I'm trying to purge php7.4*
[11:28] <XATRIX> But it wants to remove also 7.0
[11:29] <Deano59> XATRIX: remove them all, install the one you want.
[11:29] <Deano59> or make apt not remove your 7.0...
[11:29] <XATRIX> But how can i mask the packages i don't want it to remove ?
[11:29] <XATRIX> Deano59: how can i  ?
[11:30] <XATRIX> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[11:30] <XATRIX>   libapache2-mod-php7.4* php-bcmath* php-bz2* php-cli* php-curl* php-gd* php-json* php-mbstring* php-mysql* php-soap* php-zip* php7.4-bcmath*
[11:30] <XATRIX>   php7.4-bz2* php7.4-cli* php7.4-common* php7.4-curl* php7.4-gd* php7.4-json* php7.4-mbstring* php7.4-mysql* php7.4-opcache* php7.4-phpdbg*
[11:30] <XATRIX>   php7.4-readline* php7.4-soap* php7.4-zip* phpmyadmin*
[11:31] <Deano59> !paste | XATRIX
[11:31] <XATRIX> Sorry, i won't paste here in future
[11:34] <XATRIX> Deano59: any idea how to make apt not to remove these packages ?
[11:39] <summonner> there's a --dependencies flag in there somewhere, perhaps it is useful?
[11:53] <XATRIX> summonner: thanks
[12:20] <mIk3_08> Merry Christmas People!
[12:22] <random-jellyfish> Merry Merry
[12:28] <random-jellyfish> how do I install gvim on ubuntu? it there a problem with this package? I've tried all the basic approaches nothing worked
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> random-jellyfish: is vim-gtk3 what you are looking for?
[12:30] <random-jellyfish> Package vim-gtk3 is not available, but is referred to by another package.This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, oris only available from another source
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> !info vim-gtk3
[12:31] <random-jellyfish> I booted from the live cd ... ubuntu is not installed yet, could this be the problem?
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> random-jellyfish: yeah install ubuntu first
[12:35] <random-jellyfish> can ubuntu be installed for dual boot with win10 if secure boot is enabled?
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | random-jellyfish
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> dualboot | random-jellyfish
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot
[12:56] <thyriaen> Hi, i have created my private and my publickey with openssl and i would like to get it signed by a ca for s/mime but no idea where i can do that - any pointers ?
[14:16] <frad> what app can I use to rotate a video 90 degrees?
[14:17] <EriC^^> frad: ffmpeg
[14:19] <frad> EriC^^, does ffmpeg work with m4v, mkv and mp4?
[14:19] <laptopusr> i know that iphone rotates 90 degree by setting a metadata, and not recompressing it
[14:19] <laptopusr> so you might want to look into that
[14:19] <laptopusr> ffmpeg work with anything
[14:22] <frad> EriC^^, should I install with apt or snap?
[14:22] <EriC^^> frad: apt is good
[14:22] <frad> if apt is good, why there is snap?
[14:22] <EriC^^> !snap
[14:24] <laptopusr> frad: depends on which distribution you have
[14:24] <laptopusr> if it's not recent, maybe snap would be better
[14:24] <frad> oh, so snap is universal, like, for windows and mac?
[14:25] <frad> created commercially... do developers have to pay to use snap?
[14:25] <laptopusr> no, snap is not universal
[14:25] <Timvde> I have an old computer that still on 19.04. Can I still upgrade it to 20.04 without reinstalling?
[14:25] <laptopusr> afaik
[14:26] <laptopusr> Timvde: if it has the minimum requirements, it might work ?
[14:26] <Timvde> laptopusr: I don't expect the hardware to be a problem (it's ~5 years old), it's more that the disco repositories are 404ing
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> Timvde: its more adviced to upgrade your ubuntu releases before they go eol to avoid !usn security issues
[14:27] <tomreyn> you'll need to edit sources.list tp point all urls to old-releases.ubuntu.com
[14:29] <Timvde> lotuspsychje: I am aware, but sadly that didn't happen because reasons™
[14:29] <Timvde> tomreyn: Thank you, I'll try that!
[14:31] <tomreyn> Timvde: so first just edit the url to point to the old archive mirrors, then update the existing release to the latest state. and only then edit it again and point to the next release (by editing the release codename), and then apply all updates again.
[14:32] <tomreyn> as has been previously pointe dout, none of this is supported, you'll upgrade just with apt, which is not the same as using the standard upgrader (do-release-upgrade / update-manager)
[14:32] <tomreyn> and if it fails, you may need to reinstall. so make sure you have backups.
[14:32] <tomreyn> Timvde: ^
[14:33] <laptopusr> yeah, have a backup... i never manged to update the OS without ending up formating and starting from 0
[14:33] <Timvde> Ah, I was hoping to be able to use do-release-upgrade, but I have also just edited sources.list before (on debian), so I know how it works
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> laptopusr: cant generalize statements like that
[14:33] <frad> so whats the room's opinion on deb vs snap?
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | frad
[14:35] <laptopusr> frad: try them both and see which works for you ?
[14:35] <laptopusr> lotuspsychje: which is why i'm saying it happened to me, many times, on many computers, not to everyone
[14:35] <laptopusr> and you don't recommend having a backup ?
[14:36] <Timvde> I also knew I needed to have a fully up to date system before trying it, so that's why I didn't want to do it before upgrading
[14:40] <laptopusr> frad: try this instead first: https://superuser.com/a/1310590
[14:40] <laptopusr> this is how mobile phones do it, and no recompression
[14:40] <laptopusr> but maybe not all players support this
[14:41] <laptopusr> is there a good documentation on how the ubuntu version upgrader works ?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> !upgrade
[14:44] <laptopusr> can i without synaptic (using apt) know which packages i've installed from non offical repos ?
[14:45] <coconut> laptopusr, open your files from /etc/apt/souures.list.d/*
[14:45] <laptopusr> laptopusr: how is that related to my question ?
[14:45] <laptopusr> coconut...
[14:47] <coconut> laptopusr, non official repo's go there
[14:47] <coconut> oh.... for installed only, i see
[14:47] <laptopusr> coconut: read my question again, list PACKAGES which from from non offical repos
[14:50] <coconut> laptopusr, i have to pass on that
[14:59] <BikOS> Hello guys, I hope you are enjoying the holidays wherever you are
[14:59] <BikOS> can I ask a quick question about Dualboot with systemd, it is more of POP_OS related but I hoipe you will be kind to help me with this one
[15:00] <BikOS> *i hope
[15:00] <tomreyn> i don't think synaptic has a way to show this. even with CLI it's not easy to find out.
[15:00] <BikOS> I have POP installed on my new SSD with Windows, but with the POP systemd boot it does not give me the option to select the OS i want to boot into and logs to pop directly
[15:01] <tomreyn> BikOS: since ubuntu doesn't do systemd-boot, and other distros are always a bit different, we generally only support ubuntu here.
[15:01] <tomreyn> but you can try in ##linux
[15:01] <laptopusr> tomreyn: it seems as if synaptic can do this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CleanUpgrade
[15:01] <BikOS> tomreyn, thank you :)
[15:02] <tomreyn> laptopusr: oh wow, good fined, sorry for the misinfo. this can actually work (to a degree).
[15:03] <laptopusr> the question is how can i do it in terminal without X :)
[15:07] <jeremy31> BikOS: Do a search on using Ubuntu with systemd boot, it can be done
[15:12] <tomreyn> laptopusr: what i'd do is to ppa-purge all 3rd party repositories (and packages installed from there). then, only once that's completely done, install and run apt-forktracer
[15:13] <tomreyn> ... to identify additional deviations
[15:15] <laptopusr> yeh i'm asking how to do your first step...............
[15:17] <tomreyn> laptopusr: apt policy tells you which repos are configured
[15:17] <tomreyn> those not pointing to ubuntu.com (or official mirrors) are 3rd party
[15:18] <laptopusr> that is easy, how do i know which packages are from them
[15:19] <tomreyn> yuo really cant know this for sure, since different repos can provide the same packages, at same or different package versions
[15:20] <laptopusr> let's start with a not sure list, which i can manually go and check
[15:20] <tomreyn> what synaptic show you there is "if you were to install this given package now, which repositoy you have now configured would provide it"
[15:22] <laptopusr> yeah, too bad it seems i can't do that without X ?
[15:22] <Habbie> apt-cache policy can also show you that
[15:24] <laptopusr> ok, how ?
[15:25] <Habbie> apt-cache policy packagename
[15:25] <Habbie> will show you all sources your apt knows for that package
[15:25] <laptopusr> can i have some oneliner that does what I really wnat ?
[15:25] <Habbie> i did not read the original question
[15:25] <BluesKaj> Merry Christmas all
[15:26] <eoli3n> Hi
[15:27] <eoli3n> i'm trying to get Ubuntu on Wayland with nvidia graphic card
[15:27] <eoli3n> if i use nouveau, will it work ?
[15:27] <ioria>  Merry Christmas BluesKaj
[15:27] <laptopusr> Habbie: which packages not from offical repo
[15:27] <Habbie> laptopusr, on debian i use apt-forktracker for that
[15:27] <Habbie> uh, tracer
[15:27] <Maik> eoli3n: try it :)
[15:28] <ioria> eoli3n, nouveau should work ok
[15:28] <eoli3n> ok
[15:28] <ioria> laptopusr, yes, apt-forktracer is a good tool
[15:29] <laptopusr> thanks
[15:30] <kbdlnx123> Merry Christmas everyone!
[15:39] <laptopusr> dpkg --get-selections | grep -v "deinstall" | cut -f1 | xargs -I{} apt-cache policy {} | grep -ohe "^[^ ]*:$" -e "http[^ ]*" | uniq
[15:39] <laptopusr> i got so far :)
[16:12] <mra90> I have an issue "grep /home/user/../file.txt no such file or directory" but the file is there!
[16:13] <mra90> I can even copy&paste this patch and "cat" its content
[16:13] <mra90> what the heck is wrong?
[16:19] <laptopusr> run with strace
[16:19] <laptopusr> mra90
[16:55] <dob1> If I search gnuplot on sotware center why it doesn't find it?
[17:07] <jeremy31> mra90: what are you looking for in that file?
[17:11] <adfeno> How to change notify-osd font size in Focal Fossa (20.04) ?
[17:12] <adfeno> The notification pop-up that appears in the upper right by default.
[17:53] <Tom01> try Synaptic
[17:54] <Tom01> for gnuplot
[17:54] <leftyfb> !universe | dob1
[17:55] <leftyfb> dob1: gnuplot is part of the Universe repo
[17:55] <adfeno> Found it, thanks for the help.
[17:55] <leftyfb> Tom01: synaptic will not find any packages that aren't available from searching with apt
[17:56] <Tom01> add the data source for that package
[17:56] <Maik> adfeno: which buntu is that? MATE, Xubuntu...? Default Ubuntu doesn't show notifications on the right on Gnome but in the middle.
[17:58] <Tom01> my Synaptic isshowing gnuplot
[18:01] <leftyfb> Tom01: "apt search gnuplot"  will also find it. It's because you have the universe repo enabled already. synaptic is not recommended these days
[18:02] <Tom01> Why not? What to use then?
[18:02] <Maik> leftyfb: why not?
[18:03] <Tom01> I don't want to tinker with the console
[18:03] <Maik> synaptic still works so i don't see a problem
[18:03] <Tom01> for such simple tasks
[18:04] <leftyfb> Tom01: Maik: use command line apt or the Ubuntu software center. Synaptic has been known to mess with packages and their dependencies.
[18:04] <Maik> nah
[18:04] <Maik> works fine
[18:04] <Tom01> I never had problems with Synaptic so far.
[18:04] <Maik> me neither
[18:05] <leftyfb> ok, then don't listen to the recommendation. I answered the question.
[18:08] <Tom01> Synaptic is only a gui front end for apt
[18:08] <leftyfb> negative
[18:10] <leftyfb> Tom01: synaptic does it's own dependencies, or something along those lines. It's a lot more than just a front-end to dpkg. (apt is a front-end for dpkg).
[18:12] <leftyfb> I have personally had to help others in here over the years fix issues caused by packages installed using synaptic
[18:13] <Maik> https://geek-university.com/linux/synaptic/
[18:13] <Maik> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaptic_(software)
[18:13] <leftyfb> it also hasn't been updated in 5 years
[18:15] <Maik> leftyfb: stable release  0.90.0 / January 25, 2020; 10 months ago
[18:16] <Maik> get your facts straight
[18:16] <deker> hi everyone, happy holidays!
[18:16] <deker> noticing something odd on ubuntu 20.04LTS.....figured i'd ask in here if anyone else notices it
[18:16] <leftyfb> Maik: that is the Ubuntu package maintainers limping it along. That main page is at https://code.launchpad.net/~synaptic-developers/synaptic/trunk with no changes since 2015.
[18:17] <deker> my network printer is getting auto-added each and every time, even though i don't want it to
[18:17] <deker> i stopped and disabled the cups-browser service
[18:17] <deker> cups-browsed service**
[18:17] <deker> still no luck, keeps getting added
[18:17] <ClownPusher> Happy holidays all! :)
[18:18] <deker> anyone have some thoughts on how to permanently stop it?
[18:19] <ClownPusher> systemctl disable servicename disables services
[18:19] <leftyfb> deker: https://askubuntu.com/questions/918462/remove-printer-added-notifications-from-gnome-3/921289#921289
[18:19] <leftyfb> deker: you can re-enable the service and just make the change in the link above. I had the same issue
[18:20] <Maik> leftyfb: 0.84.X on 20.04.1 Ubuntu MATE and 3NiGM@E8t58
[18:20] <deker> leftyb: trying now
[18:20] <Maik> oops, nevermind that
[18:22] <deker> leftyb: added that line to the file and restarted cups, but went into settings and removed the printer and it got added back
[18:22] <deker> might need a restart?
[18:22] <Maik> leftyfb: i meant also on 20.10
[18:22] <leftyfb> deker: you don't ever want the printer added? If you never want printers added, then just disable the cups service
[18:23] <deker> leftyb: i may add a printer down the line, but just don't want the OS to keep adding it on its own
[18:23] <leftyfb> Maik: feel free to keep doing what you want. Most here do not recommend synaptic has it has been known to cause issues.
[18:23] <deker> i'm just being picky i guess  :)
[18:23] <leftyfb> deker: maybe just keep the printer added then.
[18:24] <deker> yup, i'll try a restart though just in case
[18:24] <deker> now i just wanna see if this works or not
[18:25] <leftyfb> for deker when they return (I need to go): https://cirovladimir.wordpress.com/2019/02/11/ubuntu-18-04-disable-network-printer-auto-discovery/
[18:25] <ClownPusher> disabling the service should do wht you want until you do want to add a printer
[18:25] <ClownPusher> nice find leftylfb
[18:28] <pjs> Hi all.. a few weeks back I updated from 18.04 to 20.04.1, a few hiccups aside everything went smooth. Only thing is, I can't play any video files anymore. Not in mpv or vlc. It just sort of hangs and then dumps core. I'm finally getting around to trying to fix it. Any ideas on what I should reinstall or look into?
[18:34] <deker> leftyb: looks like an entry was needed in the avahi-daemon.conf file as well
[18:34] <deker> enable-dbus=no
[18:35] <deker> followed by sudo service avahi-daemon restart
[18:35] <deker>    /etc/avahi/avahi-daemon.conf
[18:35] <tomreyn> pjs: which third party repos and packages do you have installed? have you tried to identify leftover foreign packages using apt-forktracer?
[18:40] <tabby_> Anyone here have experience with nfs?
[18:42] <tomreyn> Anyone here have experience with computers?
[18:43] <pjs> tomreyn: no, never heard of that. Let me try that
[18:48] <leftyfb> pjs: I would suggest installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:54] <lucenera> The Google Photo plugin in Shotwell is not working. I'm on Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS. In the settings the plugin is present and enabled, but if I try to import it tells me that there is no active plugin.
[18:55] <tomreyn> !bug
[18:55] <pjs> leftyfb: ok, I'll try that. thanks
[18:59] <tabby_> Anyone know if nfs mounts will timeout with inactivity or are they kept up until manual dismount/network disconnect?
[19:01] <pjs> how can I tell 'apt-get upgrade' to skip some pkgs? Looks like the golang longsleep ppa has issues today (keeps timing out). Or do I just remove it from sources temporarily?
[19:02] <tomreyn> tabby_: see the "soft / hard" section on the configuration section (5) of the man(ual) page for nfs: https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/focal/en/man5/nfs.5.html
[19:03] <tomreyn> that's not *exactly* what you asked, but related.
[19:05] <tabby_> tomreyn, That's the behaviour I would like to see for network issues, but I'm also wondering if there's a default timeout. Say I don't access the share for an hour, will it unmount?
[19:05] <tomreyn> generally speaking, file system mounts remain active unless critical errors occur (and sometimes even then).
[19:06] <tabby_> sshfs doesn't like to stay up in my experience, which is why I needed to use autofs to reset the connection when said folder needed to be accessed
[19:07] <tomreyn> if you want file systems to be unmounted automatically after a certain time of not being used, automount is what comes to my mind.
[19:07] <tabby_> I specifically do not want them to be unmounted ever, if possible
[19:08] <tomreyn> the nfs man pages discuss the behaviour and how you can modify it (for different NFS protocol versions) in great detail.
[19:08] <tomreyn> !man
[19:09] <tabby_> yea I can take a look. Sifting through man pages *grumbles*
[19:22] <newdimension> Anyone here has restored a Clonezilla image to VirtualBox machine?
[19:23] <compdoc> I've done it with KVM
[19:23] <compdoc> should work
[19:23] <newdimension> compdoc: I'm getting an error that the partition is illegal. I'm going through a third time and we'll share the exact wording in a minute
[19:24] <compdoc> newdimension, boot gparted and set the partition type to mbr or gpt, depending on the original disk
[19:25] <newdimension> compdoc: Is that a required step? I just created an empty virtual disk
[19:25] <compdoc> not usually, but sometimes it can be an issue when the disk cant be seen or used
[19:26] <newdimension> I can select the VBOX harddisk at the prompt asking to choose the target disk
[19:28] <newdimension> compdoc: I went to advance mode and selected "use dd to create partition table" (I'm paraphrasing). It looks like it worked
[19:31] <newdimension> compdoc: It was able to restore /dev/sda1. Then it went on to "Restoring partition /dev/sda5" and it errors "Unable to find target partition "sda5"
[19:31] <oerheks> virtualbox image is just a .vdi file, why clonezilla to back it up?
[19:32] <newdimension> oerheks: I'm testing a backup of a disk I've made and I don't have a spare HDD
[19:32] <newdimension> (testing being able to restore)
[19:32] <compdoc> newdimension, are you restoring partitions instead of the whole disk?
[19:32] <makara1> what is kdeconnectd doing on my computer? I don't remember installing it
[19:33] <newdimension> compdoc: I'm not. But I'll detail my choices as I attempt this again
[19:33] <oerheks> makara1, easy answer to find? https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect
[19:33] <freebench__> hey, a while ago installed ubuntu 20 on an old laptop, now I've realized that the su pass is lost. Are there any other options but reinstall the thing ?
[19:34] <oerheks> and -d stands for the deamon
[19:34] <oerheks> !password
[19:34] <oerheks> freebench__, ^^ easy to resolve
[19:34] <newdimension> compdoc: I'll share all my choices, but the relevant one is "restoredisk" and that's the one I'm choosing
[19:34] <oerheks> i hope you did not choose encryption
[19:36] <makara1> oerheks: yeah, but im running ubuntu 20.04, so what does Ubuntu need it for?
[19:36] <newdimension> My choices: https://dpaste.org/6Qr3
[19:36] <freebench__> oerheks, thx
[19:38] <pjs> hrmm, still dumping core when viewing a video file. Any ideas here (gdb): https://paste.sr.ht/~petersanchez/5eea9a762e1ee64ab6a53d0c0b98d02a21bdf3b5
[19:38] <oerheks> makara1, a KDE programm installed on gnome might pull it in?
[19:38] <newdimension> If I don't change the settings in advance (i.e. use dd to create partition table). I get The partition table in this disk is illegal/invalid: /dev/sda. Does this partition table fit this disk *disk name* Is this disk too small: /dev/sda ?
[19:40] <makara1> christmas, i need to be more careful
[19:40] <compdoc> generally with clonezilla, its best to choose the defaults and not set any of the expert options.
[19:40] <compdoc> beginner mode
[19:41] <newdimension> compdoc: right, but I get the same error. This is a screenshot for reference https://imgur.com/a/jEW7eYi
[19:42] <compdoc> newdimension, when you start clonezilla, theres an advnaced menu to deal with uefi partitions. Ive never used it, but you may need to
[19:43] <newdimension> compdoc: Are you referring to the initial splash screen?
[19:45] <jeremy31> newdimension: That doesn't appear to be a EFI system on that drive
[19:47] <compdoc> newdimension, are you letting clonezilla create the paritions? looking at your image, it asks if the partition is too small
[19:47] <newdimension> Shouldn't running in beginner mode do that?
[19:47] <compdoc> maybe there are partitions on the disk already?
[19:48] <newdimension> The virtualbox one? I just created an empty disk
[19:49] <compdoc> then should not have any partitions
[19:49] <compdoc> "If your machine comes with uEFI secure boot enabled, you have to use AMD64 (X86-64) version (either Debian-based or Ubuntu-based) of Clonezilla live."
[19:50] <oerheks> compdoc +1
[19:50] <jeremy31> Clonezilla will not automatically resize smaller
[19:51] <newdimension> How can I know if the source machine had uEFI secure boot? It had Windows XP on it for reference
[19:52] <jeremy31> Windows XP would not be Secure Boot or UEFI
[19:52] <compdoc> if its a 64bit vm or computer, always use amd64
[19:52] <compdoc> XP?!
[19:52] <compdoc> phfft
[19:53] <newdimension> I'm using this version of clonezilla clonezilla-live-2.7.0-10-amd64, and I just loaded gparted and deleted the result of the previous partial restore
[19:53] <newdimension> Do you recommend that I leave it unallocated or should make one partition?
[19:54] <jeremy31> Is the virtual drive the same size as the original disk?
[19:54] <newdimension> jeremy: I made it bigger but dynamically allocated
[19:55] <jeremy31> newdimension: Clonezilla should be able to restore to an empty drive.  I have cloned to brand new drives
[19:57] <newdimension> jeremy31: Ok, about to run Clonezilla another time
[20:01] <newdimension> It looks like running gparted did the trick
[20:13] <pjs> for anyone interested, turns out my issue is from this still unresolved bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1876219
[20:13] <pjs> The suggested workaround does the trick for now
[20:13] <matsaman> and that's why open source is the best
[23:03] <mindful_idiot> Hey guys, being intrigued by Richard Stallman and his talks about GNU license -- decided to install Ubuntu on a VM. Any recommendations on where to start in getting acquainted with Linux generally?
[23:04] <matsaman> mindful_idiot: the best part of just using it is the package manager
[23:04] <matsaman> mindful_idiot: so install something, then uninstall something
[23:04] <matsaman> mindful_idiot: try using something while you uninstall it
[23:05] <matsaman> mindful_idiot: check out apt-file and dpkg -S for finding packages based on executable names you think exist or should exist
[23:06] <matsaman> mindful_idiot: you could get deep into the benefits of open free software with apt-src: https://wiki.debian.org/apt-src
[23:06] <matsaman> make your own customizations to software you use
[23:06] <mindful_idiot> Thanks
[23:07] <Blade-Runner> i'm running Ubuntu 20.04 opening livepatch gives an error message ubuntu has experienced an internal error. and askes me if i want to send a report, each time over 20 times i have sent a report but nothing has changed. any way to fix this?
[23:10] <matsaman> Blade-Runner: a report is only going to send info to humans, it's not going to magically fix it
[23:10] <Blade-Runner> i get that
[23:10] <Blade-Runner> but what can i do?
[23:11] <matsaman> I haven't used livepatch, but there's probably a -v or -verbose or some debugging info mode that will say more than 'experienced an internal error'
[23:11] <Blade-Runner> i have no idea how to run that
[23:11] <matsaman> what's the command you're using?
[23:12] <Blade-Runner> none, livepatch has a gui on the desktop
[23:12] <Blade-Runner> gnome
[23:13] <Blade-Runner> and livepatch is not a command
[23:14] <matsaman> pretty sure there is a command by that name, but if you're not using it that doesn't matter
[23:14] <matsaman> try running the GUI via a terminal
[23:14] <matsaman> ps aux | grep -i livepatch, while it's running, will probably reveal the executable name
[23:14] <Blade-Runner> ok what command do i use?
[23:14] <matsaman> dpkg -L package-livepatch-is-from | grep -i bin probably will also
[23:16] <oerheks> livepatch is a snap.
[23:16] <Blade-Runner> well thats enough to confuse me
[23:17] <oerheks> i think yu just need to run updates properly, apt full-upgrade and reboot
[23:17] <oerheks> c/you
[23:18] <Blade-Runner> ok
[23:19] <MarkB2> Well, today is Christmas and, per the usual, I get handed a cute problem.  Namely: a guest has a DVD with a bunch of JPG's and AVI files.  Most of the AVIs are >large< and something seems to have gone wrong with the burn.
[23:20] <Blade-Runner> no upgrades needed,  all 0's
[23:20] <matsaman> I mean really, you need to have your systems set up so you can reboot one at a time while others are online, redundantly
[23:20] <matsaman> but livepatch can help with instant patches very occasionally
[23:21] <matsaman> MarkB2: what makes it seem like something went wrong?
[23:21] <MarkB2> while an 'ls -l' of the affected directories says files are there and they have big size, trying to read these AVI files produces a error message and a zero-length complaint (Input/output error).
[23:21] <MarkB2> Which isn't too useful.
[23:21] <matsaman> MarkB2: hmmm, well maybe start with a ddrescue of the disc
[23:22] <matsaman> then you can take the drive out of the equation
[23:22] <MarkB2> matsaman: Thank you.. I did not know of "ddrescue".
[23:23] <MarkB2> And I think I've mis-directed myself.  Were you thinking of a 'dd' to copy all blocks from the DVD to HD ?
[23:23] <matsaman> MarkB2: https://dpaste.com/BWYJGH4UR.txt
[23:23] <matsaman> there's more than one 'ddrescue' implementation, I think these commands are for GNU's own
[23:23] <matsaman> MarkB2: 'ddrescue'
[23:23] <matsaman> it'll copy despite i/o & read errors
[23:24] <matsaman> might be the gddrescue package on Ubuntu
[23:24] <matsaman> MarkB2: I'd also be curious what 'mplayer dvd://' does
[23:25] <MarkB2> That I can easily check.  One moment.
[23:25] <matsaman> if mplayer can play it, you're golden, because mplayer can copy/dump anything it can play
[23:25] <MarkB2> Some of the damaged files can be played by mplayer.  Others causes mplayer to give up.
[23:25] <matsaman> okay so you can go ahead and grab the playable ones
[23:26] <matsaman> lsdvd will tell you their #'s, and mplayer dvd://numhere -dumpstream -dumpfile foo.vob, I think
[23:26] <MarkB2> mplayer gets slightly confused on the file.  It's not a DVD that is playable, for example, in a commercial DVD player.
[23:27] <MarkB2> The creator of this thing put together a tree of JPGs and AVIs then told some burner to burn.
[23:28] <matsaman> so it's just a data dvd?
[23:28] <matsaman> I think I'd start with ddrescue
[23:28] <MarkB2> Yes.
[23:28] <matsaman> and then if some files are still bad
[23:28] <matsaman> you can get into the dark magics of file recovery apps
[23:29] <MarkB2> And I will take that advice, D/L ddrescue, compile, and see how far I get.
[23:29] <matsaman> https://dpaste.com/BWYJGH4UR.txt you can use files instead of /dev/disk for the output
[23:29] <matsaman> I think it probably is the 'ddrescue' from the 'gddrescue' package
[23:30] <kvndy> I have an external LUKS encrypted drive which accidentally got disconnected. I was in here before and was told I need to "dismount its logical volumes, deavtivate them, close the LUKS, ensure its mappers are released for real, then open the LUKS as usual, activate the logical volumes, then mount their file systems". Does that sound about right? It's a lot for me to have to figure out and any help would be appreciated.
[23:30] <matsaman> like I said there are at least two ddrescue implementations out there, though; believe the GNU one is the most used, and the other one typically is named 'dd_rescue' with underscore
[23:30] <matsaman> kvndy: that is a lot of boring processes to figure out I agree, but I believe each of them is utterly non-destructive
[23:31] <matsaman> you can do them wrong, I think, but I don't think you can accidentally lose any data doing any of that
[23:31] <matsaman> you'd have to do something more, like obliterate something
[23:31] <kvndy> matsaman: That is reassuring
[23:32] <matsaman> you have LVM's things and LUKS' things, and maybe they're confused with one another
[23:32] <matsaman> but your data is there, encrypted, and LVM is managing where on top of it
[23:32] <matsaman> as long as you know your passphrase and haven't somehow deleted/overwritten one of those constructs, everything should, ultimately, be fine
[23:33] <matsaman> and once you get it figured out I hope you'll revisit backup plans =)
[23:33] <matsaman> I'm afraid I've never found a reason to use LVM so I won't be of much use
[23:33] <kvndy> matsaman: Data loss was never a concern. A reboot was always simpler but it's happened again so I'm going to go through the trouble and figure it out this time
[23:33] <matsaman> yeah be worth it
[23:34] <matsaman> that would probably be the first thing I'd do for LVM or LUKS
[23:34] <matsaman> after setting it up... to figure out how to completely disable and then re-enable it
[23:36] <MarkB2> Hmm... ddrescue may not be able to solve this problem.  I can create an ISO using sudo cat /dev/sr0 > output_file.iso and there are no read errors.
[23:36] <MarkB2> What I have seems to be an integrity issue with the DVD.
[23:39] <matsaman> yeah entirely possible
[23:39] <matsaman> it could also have been made by some kind of horrible write-protection system
[23:39] <matsaman> but I think that's probably less likely, if it was just some random normo who authored it
[23:39] <matsaman> horrible read-protection system, that is
[23:39] <MarkB2> I think it more likely a "normal but somewhat neophyte" user burnt the DVD.
[23:40] <matsaman> if they didn't use something that checked the integrity afterward, yeah
[23:40] <matsaman> DVD burning is horrifying
[23:40] <MarkB2> Most CD/DVD burners default to running a verify pass... but I have no idea what he used.
[23:41] <matsaman> these days most do
[23:41] <MarkB2> Myself, I always run a verify pass.
[23:41] <matsaman> AVI is a pretty old format to have used for such a thing
[23:41] <matsaman> not to mention DVD is pretty old
[23:41] <stavros> Is it normal to be getting 12 MB/s random reads on a Samsung Evo 850 SSD?
[23:41] <matsaman> not sure 'random' can be solidly accounted for as normal ever
[23:43] <MarkB2> ddrescue completed with no errors, the output file is the same length as the data area on the DVD .. and so what I have is a data integrity error on the DVD, not a case of bad DVD media.
[23:43] <MarkB2> So the burner fouled up.
[23:45] <MarkB2> The only thing I can think of to try now is to look for something like fsck for an ISO9660 ISO file.
[23:45] <MarkB2> I'm not sure such a thing exists.
[23:46] <stavros> What could be affecting SSD performance?
[23:46] <matsaman> MarkB2: probably something does, or some kind of file carving/recovery util
[23:46] <matsaman> stavros: like besides bad hardware? ummm
[23:46] <matsaman> firmware, device driver, FS stuffo I guess
[23:47] <stavros> Hmm
[23:54] <MarkB2> And I just discovered the DVD is not in ISO9660 format (according to isoinfo).