[00:10] sure no problem [00:11] ssh is awesome once you've set it up xD [00:11] btw if there was any doubt about anbox [00:12] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/8iTpz60E.png [00:26] @xander2m [I like the Christmas holidays. I have literally no idea about SSH but have the t …], The command for SSHing from a Linux distro is usually- ssh username@ipaddress … After you do that it will ask for a password. That is pretty much it. For windows just get Putty and fill out up address and user fields then go. All SSH does is give [00:26] you a remote terminal connection to the device. [00:27] Cool. Well I've installed Ubuntu today so will give it a go on there. [02:11] hey guys i got a question [02:11] i know that it isnt stable to switch lomiri with something else [02:12] but i wanna know if its actually possible [02:12] im on devel channel and im willing to reinstall if anything fails [02:12] are there any ways to do it? [02:26] Daniel Daniel was added by: Daniel Daniel [02:27] how well work ubuntu touch on Samsung Galaxy note 4 … will the sPen work? [02:30] @Daniel Daniel [how well work ubuntu touch on Samsung Galaxy note 4 … will the sPen work?], it might? [02:31] @bingusfunny [it might?], ? [02:32] @Daniel Daniel [how well work ubuntu touch on Samsung Galaxy note 4 … will the sPen work?], the performance should be good, im running it on nexus 5 and its pretty smooth [02:33] but im not sure if the spen will work [02:35] thanks for answering … do you think ubuntu touch will work equal like in nexus 5 by note 4? [03:06] @Daniel Daniel [how well work ubuntu touch on Samsung Galaxy note 4 … will the sPen work?], seeing as I ported it, I can say it works fairly well, call audio currently isnt working (been trying to figure it out) the sPen is detected by the kernel, but it doesnt actually do anything cause either mir or lomiri doesnt handle styli input, I [03:06] have opted to wait for the base to moclve to 20.04 before I devote time and energy into getting the spen to work. I tried to set it as a mouse input, but that didnt work either [03:06] Is any specific reason why there any dialer does not support landscape mode?Some known limitation ? [03:08] @Daniel Daniel [thanks for answering … do you think ubuntu touch will work equal like in nexus 5 b …], it performs almost as well as N5, if I could get call audio working, and figure out a couple minor things then I would say its as good if not slightly better as a N5 [03:37] @bingusfunny [but i wanna know if its actually possible], there is no supported way to change the shell, no [03:37] @dohbee [there is no supported way to change the shell, no], hmm [03:38] anyway, is there any way of switching to wayland from mir? [03:38] or just using Xmir to run desktop apps? [03:40] @bingusfunny [or just using Xmir to run desktop apps?], (without libertine, because i cant get that running for some damn reason) [03:42] @Shakendo [seeing as I ported it, I can say it works fairly well, call audio currently isnt …], many thanks for answering [03:42] @bingusfunny [anyway, is there any way of switching to wayland from mir?], mir is a wayland compositor, so no [03:42] @Shakendo [seeing as I ported it, I can say it works fairly well, call audio currently isnt …], do you have an own channel to keep me up to date? [03:42] @dohbee [mir is a wayland compositor, so no], oh, i feel dumb [03:43] @bingusfunny [or just using Xmir to run desktop apps?], this has nothing to do with wayland, and all X11 apps are run under it currently [03:43] @dohbee [this has nothing to do with wayland, and all X11 apps are run under it currently], huh? [03:43] @bingusfunny [or just using Xmir to run desktop apps?], No desktop Apps on Ubuntu touch??? [03:43] @Daniel Daniel [No desktop Apps on Ubuntu touch???], idk but nope from what i can tell so far [03:43] @bingusfunny [huh?], all libertine x11 apps are currently run via xmir [03:43] @bingusfunny [(without libertine, because i cant get that running for some damn reason)], . [03:44] uh [03:44] good thing i pointed that out [03:44] 🤷‍♀️ [03:45] running PC apps on a phone is not the priority, and so libertine is still quite experimental [03:45] @dohbee [all libertine x11 apps are currently run via xmir], I can run for example gimp or office? [03:45] @Daniel Daniel [I can run for example gimp or office?], sure [03:45] @dohbee [running PC apps on a phone is not the priority, and so libertine is still quite …], bruh [03:46] @dohbee [running PC apps on a phone is not the priority, and so libertine is still quite …], the desktop apps could run unstable in contrast to raspberry pi, that also arm based? [03:46] @Daniel Daniel [the desktop apps could run unstable in contrast to raspberry pi, that also arm b …], phones are not PCs [03:46] a Nexus 5 is not a Raspberry Pi [03:47] I knew...but the system is makes the difference [03:47] @dohbee [a Nexus 5 is not a Raspberry Pi], - same cpu architecture … - same type of ram … - runs off of emmc [03:47] no [03:48] @bingusfunny [- same cpu architecture … - same type of ram … - runs off of emmc], i mean, when you think about it [03:48] you're wrong [03:48] alright [03:48] cool [03:49] HDMI or and wireless display will work? [03:49] @Daniel Daniel [HDMI or and wireless display will work?], yeah probably [03:49] they are different things, so it depends on device [03:50] how well is anbox? [03:51] (Video, 11s) https://irc.ubports.com/k0FgU0j5.mp4 [03:51] extremely alpha. you won't get same experience as running native lineageOS or anything [03:51] @Daniel Daniel [], for that probably no! [03:51] wtf [03:52] @dohbee [extremely alpha. you won't get same experience as running native lineageOS or an …], :( … is anbox on desktop OS also alpha? [03:52] yes [03:52] and unrelated to UT [03:55] what would happen if i replaced the ut rootfs with a mobian one while installing [03:55] lmao [03:55] you would not be using UT then [03:55] yeah but like would it work [03:55] is it possible [03:55] probably not [03:55] hmm [03:56] i'll just wait for mobian halium 5 release lmao [03:56] phones aren't PCs no matter what distro you attempt o install on them [03:57] @dohbee [phones aren't PCs no matter what distro you attempt o install on them], wow i thought my Nexus 5 was an i9 99100k with a Radeon 6900XT [03:57] thanks for the reminder [03:57] it's not even an i3 3300k with a radeon hd 750 [03:58] apparently i have to put /s at the end of every sentence [03:58] good to know [03:58] but the point isn't about the performance. it's about the hardware [04:00] @dohbee [yes], ): … Android Emulator or Simulator on Windows probably better, like NOX or Bluestacks … And windows is not Unix based [04:01] ok [04:01] you're welcome to donate as much money has been spent on those ventures, to ubports [04:02] @dohbee [you're welcome to donate as much money has been spent on those ventures, to ubpo …], i dont think any money would be spent emulating android lmao [04:02] then feel free to not use android apps [04:02] that [04:02] wasnt what i meant [04:02] @Daniel Daniel [], the APP is UbikiTouch … An realy nice idea to make something similar to Ubuntu or linx overall: so you can for example use your nexus 7 with only one Hand if you shirk the keyboard to right or left side [04:53] @Pj 🇧🇷 Raphael(s) CN 512/12GB 🇺🇸 [Anyone have Raphael K20 pro?], yes [04:54] @TuxInside18 [I'm interesting to improve developing of UBports on Redmi K20 Pro], please do try it,,we like to see it [05:09] Fwd from John: https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAFh0rfS5unI1yshXSA [05:13] Fwd from Jw: https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAFh0rfS5unI1yshXSA [06:43] @J W [The command for SSHing from a Linux distro is usually- ssh username@ipaddress … A …], fwiw on ut it will only work with keys [06:45] @bingusfunny [but i wanna know if its actually possible], replacing lomiri means its no longer ubuntu touch. yes its possible but everything on ut works via lomiri, from the the actual shell down to the compositor [06:50] @bingusfunny [- same cpu architecture … - same type of ram … - runs off of emmc], - more sensors … - less ports(only one usb port … - binary drivers … - smaller screen … :p [06:53] no seriously the differences are bigger than you expect, kde dropped halium support for a reason and there not much storage space on these devices compared to what you can do with a rpi. ut is build this way for a reason [06:55] also it isn't that desktop apps can't run, its that they aren't made for use with small 5 inch touchscreens [06:56] [Edit] also it isn't that desktop apps can't run, its that they aren't made for use with low powered devices with small 5 inch touchscreens [07:01] AkhilBhakte was added by: AkhilBhakte [07:06] Pramit Chaudhury was added by: Pramit Chaudhury [07:08] Hi everyone 👋 [07:37] @Fuseteam [also it isn't that desktop apps can't run, its that they aren't made for use wit …], Small screens with insane pixel density. 538ppi for the Pixel 2XL, I had to raise grid unit to 28 for the first time on a device. It looks smooth but it feels overpowered, and the builtin cameras wont have that resolution :P [08:09] When we get oneplus 5 cheeseburger get approx.!!!! [08:10] Ubuntu touch rom [08:11] H43id was added by: H43id [08:15] @Pramit Chaudhury [Hi everyone 👋], Welcome [08:17] @Flohack [Small screens with insane pixel density. 538ppi for the Pixel 2XL, I had to rais …], what do you mean by overpowered? [08:17] also, what's the highest resolution UT device do we have? … PIxel 2 Xl is 1440p, right? [08:58] NICOLE KAISER was added by: NICOLE KAISER [08:58] (Photo, 619x907) https://irc.ubports.com/hgQ4WAnb.png [08:58] @NICOLE KAISER [], spam [09:29] @Javacookies [what do you mean by overpowered?], Human eye cannot resolve beyond around 250ppi so it is like advertising the beautiful image in ultraviolet - which we are blind to [09:34] My eyes without glasses can't even resolve 50ppi 😂 [09:45] Wow? it's nice!!! Giveaway!!🤑🤑 … [https://twіtеr.cоm/musk/status/1233358268827314432](https://bit.ly/2WNAkKS) [09:46] Thanks [09:48] They are sent to the very hot place down below 👿 [09:50] phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ uname -a … Linux ubuntu-phablet 3.10.108-halium-perf+ #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Dec 7 20:19:15 CET 2020 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ [09:51] @Max57595 [phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ uname -a … Linux ubuntu-phablet 3.10.108-halium-perf+ #1 …], At last on my Oneplus 2 , OTA-15 works fine. [09:52] Not as daily driver. But I love it! … Thank you guys!! [10:11] how do you boot to bootloader on bq E5? [10:12] @J W [The command for SSHing from a Linux distro is usually- ssh username@ipaddress … A …], Actually windows 10 doesn't need putty [10:13] @Javacookies [how do you boot to bootloader on bq E5?], Volume up + power usually does it on mediatek [10:14] hmmm, I think battery is dead … when I plug it to power, it shows 100% but won't boot … when unplugged, nothing happens [10:14] I thought I can revive it 😢 [10:24] @Javacookies [hmmm, I think battery is dead … when I plug it to power, it shows 100% but won't b …], Sounds like my dead 4.5. Even after a new battery installed [10:25] well I guess that confirms it 😅 [10:26] too bad, it has sentimental value because it went through a lot just to get here from Europe 😆 [10:27] Hold volume up when you plug it in [10:34] @amyosx [Hold volume up when you plug it in], With BQ there was a thing of pressing the power button for 15-20 seconds [10:35] Yeah but if your holding when preloader (?) executes it will bring up the menu [10:45] @kriskuthu [please do try it,,we like to see it], I'm doing that with @hacker1024 [10:54] @TuxInside18 [I'm doing that with @hacker1024], Photography will be interesting but I think it will lack use of the integration algorithms [10:55] @Flohack [Small screens with insane pixel density. 538ppi for the Pixel 2XL, I had to rais …], T-Mobile has announced that they are changing their network configuration in addition to the VoLTE changes coming in January. In a nut shell, if the device is from 2015 or earlier, and can't get a firmware update from the manufacturer, it [10:55] will be blocked from both voice and data access. AT&T has announced something similar. That means a lot of devices will no longer have network access in the US come February 1. I've got a couple of devices in that category that have a good lineage 14.1 port. You're welcome to have them if it's worth shipping them to Europe, otherwise also free to [10:55] a UbPorts developer in the Americas [11:03] @rocket2nfinity [T-Mobile has announced that they are changing their network configuration in add …], Is this US-only ? Since T-Mobile is also in Poland and such [11:11] @rocket2nfinity [T-Mobile has announced that they are changing their network configuration in add …], Very generous. Is Sprint also being closed off? [11:28] This is US only. Legally, T-Mobile agreed to keep Sprints CDMA service intact for three years. But, they are being cagey about it. CDMA doesn't work with UT anyway [11:29] Hence, might as well give them to someone that can still use them. I hate recycling devices that still have a life in them [11:31] @rocket2nfinity [Hence, might as well give them to someone that can still use them. I hate recycl …], As things like this tend to get lost in the chat, it might be worth flagging up the offer in the forum [11:32] I will, if no one claims them before then [11:32] There are issues with duties, tax, courier costs, customs declarations etc though [11:32] Is Canada similarly affected? Mexico? [11:33] Yep, why I said if it's worth it. Europe is especially picky on those tax and customs issues [11:36] Mexico no, Canada I'm not sure. There's always Rogers up there anyway. But here, there's only three big carriers and all three have committed to the same plan. Anyone in a rural US/Canada area with a regional telco still using GSM is welcome to them [11:41] @Flohack [Small screens with insane pixel density. 538ppi for the Pixel 2XL, I had to rais …], yeah ikr [11:42] @rocket2nfinity [Mexico no, Canada I'm not sure. There's always Rogers up there anyway. But here, …], Damn I'm in UK [11:42] @SehjanS [When we get oneplus 5 cheeseburger get approx.!!!!], patience please, it will be hard to miss when it is actually released. the work for it is being done by volunteers [11:43] Maybe we get that HUGE and TREMENDOUS free trade deal haha [11:47] @rocket2nfinity [T-Mobile has announced that they are changing their network configuration in add …], what are the devices in question? [12:10] @amyosx [Maybe we get that HUGE and TREMENDOUS free trade deal haha], Off topic but ROFL. World beating levels of red tape and ritual self-humiliation [12:12] @rocket2nfinity [T-Mobile has announced that they are changing their network configuration in add …], Well we have enough devices, but no knowledge about volte. Everything is vendor specific, even from same vendor it can be different for 2 devices. Bring documentation ;) [12:15] Maybe Musk's WiFi from the sky will make the LTE debate look funny and old-fashioned soon? [12:16] Lol I hope [12:17] lol doubt [12:24] @Flohack [Well we have enough devices, but no knowledge about volte. Everything is vendor …], Did you check the GSMA "official" documentation for carriers and mobile telephony 3rd parties industry? … https://www.gsma.com/futurenetworks/documents-volte/ … https://www.gsma.com/newsroom/wp-content/uploads//IR.92-v15.0-4.pdf [12:25] I guess in this regard, it's good that our carriers are always late with technologies 😆 [12:25] lol [12:27] tfw you realize you have no idea where to find % on the default ut calculator [12:28] Documentation about VoWiFi: … https://www.gsma.com/futurenetworks/ip_services/vowifi/ [12:29] @Fuseteam [what are the devices in question?], Nexus 5, probably my Nexus 6P (still waiting to hear from Google about that), Moto E4, several Samsung Galaxy and Galaxy Tabs [12:29] hmmm [12:33] @Fuseteam [hmmm], 😀 [12:34] 😎 [12:44] Well South America is 'local' I think. Good for sustainability 😏 [12:50] is it? hehe [12:52] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/YrNDwfGI.webp [12:52] Go for it [12:53] i'll see 😂 [12:56] @Fuseteam [i'll see 😂], You could help Florian with the 6P. That would be very useful for the community [12:57] that's actually not a bad suggestion 🤔 [13:05] @Steve Kueffer [Did you check the GSMA "official" documentation for carriers and mobile telephon …], You need to enable it via the vendor blobs for the specific device probably, there is no volte standard, so that document does not help [13:08] @Flohack [You need to enable it via the vendor blobs for the specific device probably, the …], Oh my.... Sorry 😨 [13:15] @Flohack [You need to enable it via the vendor blobs for the specific device probably, the …], Concerning Vollaphone, maybe Gigaset can provide the documentation to Hallo Welt team for a future VoLte implementation. [13:16] @Steve Kueffer [Concerning Vollaphone, maybe Gigaset can provide the documentation to Hallo Welt …], Probably yes. [13:24] @Steve Kueffer [Concerning Vollaphone, maybe Gigaset can provide the documentation to Hallo Welt …], May be issues with USA licensing? Not sure… [13:39] Apparently Vollaphone has been certified for the US market (sales licence). But don't know about other technical protocols under licence indeed... [13:39] its mostly the fcc license that it is missing [13:44] @Fuseteam [its mostly the fcc license that it is missing], Yes, I meant terms of a firmware usage licence. It might be limited to EU, if granted [13:48] actually the problem is they didn't/don't have the resource to pass fcc's certification if memory serves [14:44] @Fuseteam [also it isn't that desktop apps can't run, its that they aren't made for use wit …], true [14:45] hmm [14:45] it really is that difficult yes [14:45] i cant get libertine running for some reason, thats why i asked [14:45] how have you tried to get libertine running? [14:46] Settings > Libertine [14:46] and also the command line way thru adb shell [14:46] on my pc cause terminal on a 5inch screen is painful [14:46] eh? did you actually let it finish? it does take quite a while [14:47] @Fuseteam [eh? did you actually let it finish? it does take quite a while], yeah [14:48] @bingusfunny [on my pc cause terminal on a 5inch screen is painful], well if the terminal that is optimized for ubuntu touch is that painfull to you, i would not have high hopes for running full desktop apps [14:48] @Fuseteam [well if the terminal that is optimized for ubuntu touch is that painfull to you, …], no its the terminal thats painful [14:48] @bingusfunny [yeah], what was the error you encountered [14:48] @bingusfunny [no its the terminal thats painful], eh? how so? [14:48] @Fuseteam [well if the terminal that is optimized for ubuntu touch is that painfull to you, …], [Edit] no its NOT the terminal thats painful [14:48] fuck [14:48] good job me [14:48] ohw lol [14:49] @bingusfunny [no its NOT the terminal thats painful], its the fact that i have to type on a 4.95 inch screen [14:49] so i just ssh or adb shell into it to do it [14:49] its not a "ohhh ut is so painful" thing [14:49] uh yeah i know what you mean don't worry, i'm readwrite rootfs guy i done some things on my device [14:50]