| MIF | is there a way to install the ubuntu server installer on a flash drive with out installing software or having admin on a macbook? | 03:12 |
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| mybalzitch | I'm not sure diskutil will let you make changes / write to a raw device file without admin | 03:13 |
| MIF | ok | 03:13 |
| MIF | because I am going to have to reinstall | 03:14 |
| MIF | :( | 03:15 |
| mybalzitch | well you can try launching diskutil / writing out the image to the raw usb device | 03:23 |
| mybalzitch | with dd | 03:23 |
| MIF | I first have to nuke my server | 03:23 |
| mybalzitch | why not write out the installer on your server | 03:25 |
| quadrathoch2 | mybalzitch because it was compromized | 03:26 |
| MIF | yep | 03:26 |
| MIF | because I left a user with out a password | 03:26 |
| MIF | I thought I got all of the virus off but after I rebooted, there it was | 03:28 |
| dax | did i miss you giving us information about this virus in scrollback | 03:34 |
| MIF | no I said talked about it | 03:34 |
| dax | what did "there it was" involve? | 03:35 |
| dax | some specific process (which one?) in the output of `ps`, or...? | 03:35 |
| MIF | no it reinstalled its self | 03:36 |
| dax | yes, what did you see that leads you to believe that, is what i'm asking | 03:36 |
| MIF | dir.dir is the tell tale sign of this virus | 03:37 |
| dax | ah | 03:38 |
| dax | glad you're going the reinstallation route now | 03:38 |
| MIF | now I need to know how to install the installtion on a flash drive on a mac with out admin | 03:39 |
| dax | i forget whether Disk Utility requires admin to write to USB. if not, https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-macos#3-prepare-the-usb-stick . if it does, i think those constraints don't work | 03:40 |
| dax | since dd requires sudo and i think everything else that touches disks on the CLI does | 03:40 |
| MIF | ok | 03:40 |
| dax | the macos channel on here (i think it's #macos? not sure) might know better | 03:40 |
| MIF | ok | 03:40 |
| dax | oh, those instructions need Etcher, ugh | 03:41 |
| MIF | Yea | 03:41 |
| MIF | It is on my school computer | 03:41 |
| MIF | so I cannot install apps | 03:41 |
| dax | no other computers in the house apart from your server and a locked-down mac? | 03:41 |
| MIF | not that I can access | 03:42 |
| MIF | right now I am kinda in quarantine because I was exposed and my mom is high risk | 03:42 |
| quadrathoch2 | MIF, afaik, disk util needs admin rights, as the underlying tool _is_ dd | 03:49 |
| tomreyn | MIF: got an android phone? | 03:50 |
| MIF | no | 03:50 |
| tomreyn | hmm ask a neighbour to place a stick on their doormat for you to fetch | 03:51 |
| tomreyn | or on yours if you're quarantined | 03:51 |
| tomreyn | or maybe your mom can do one for you, or you can swap spots with her for a while, using her computer to do the stick | 03:53 |
| mybalzitch | even if the server was compromised, it'd have to be some pretty advanced malware to modify the install image they copy over and write to the flash drive | 03:56 |
| dax | im looking forward to the upcoming #ubuntu-server discussion on fomites | 03:56 |
| dax | mybalzitch: yeah, you're angling down the route i'd take too, though it goes against "best practices" | 03:56 |
| JanC | ask a friend to make the USB stick and get it to you somehow... | 04:09 |
| MIF | I will find a way | 04:09 |
| JanC | also, if you have a router or NAS that you can log into which also has USB, that's an option too... | 04:09 |
| MIF | yes I do but I don't want to do anything to that | 04:09 |
| JanC | I mean, you could write the stick from that :) | 04:10 |
| MIF | ok | 04:10 |
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| jancoow | mmh | 10:13 |
| jancoow | when c onnecting through ssh for the first time in x hours it takes very long to connect | 10:13 |
| jancoow | why is this? | 10:13 |
| teward | jancoow: could be any number of reasons. network lag, network access rules, Fail2ban, UseDNS is trying to rDNS your system and failing repeatedly, etc. | 16:40 |
| teward | but "very long" is subjective so you'll need to be more specific | 16:40 |
| kinghat | does the server installer have zfs support now? | 18:33 |
| jayjo- | how do curtin and cloud-init relate in terms of autoinstallations for servers? | 19:39 |
| jayjo- | I'm trying to mount a partition at the install stage so cloudinit can use it as a "file" debian repository (with offline packages) | 19:39 |
| jayjo- | it looks like cloudinit and curtin have different storage formats for this. | 19:39 |
| MIF | would curl still work | 20:41 |
| MIF | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CbdEI9CR/ | 20:42 |
| MIF | what that firewall config? | 20:42 |
| MIF | and I know nothing can get in | 20:42 |
| tomreyn | "Pastebin deleted" | 20:59 |
| MIF | oh | 20:59 |
| MIF | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Fm1K1SWp/ | 20:59 |
| MIF | try that | 20:59 |
| MIF | is that link working tomreyn? | 21:00 |
| tomreyn | MIF: yes, this link is working as says: sudo ufw enable; sudo ufw default deny incoming; sudo ufw reload | 21:04 |
| tomreyn | what is your question? | 21:04 |
| tomreyn | *AND says | 21:04 |
| MIF | Will I beable to use curl and wget? | 21:04 |
| tomreyn | outbound, yes, inbound no | 21:04 |
| MIF | so I cannot download files? | 21:04 |
| tomreyn | depends on where you loading from and to, i guess | 21:05 |
| MIF | github | 21:05 |
| MIF | and to install things | 21:05 |
| tomreyn | so - i'm guessing, for llack of details - you want to download something from github to this server, after running these commands on the server, which has a default ufw configuration. is this correct? | 21:06 |
| MIF | yes | 21:06 |
| MIF | I am working on a script to help me get my server reinstalled and that would be the first thing ran | 21:06 |
| tomreyn | so that should be working. does it not? | 21:06 |
| MIF | I have not tried it yet | 21:07 |
| tomreyn | well, you shoudl try. | 21:07 |
| MIF | if you want to see that script https://github.com/Sturtz-Network/server-setup/blob/master/install.sh | 21:07 |
| tomreyn | i think denying inbound traffic is the default policy | 21:08 |
| tomreyn | this is unsafe: curl -O http://software.virtualmin.com/gpl/scripts/install.sh; sudo chmod +x install.sh; sudo ./install.sh | 21:09 |
| MIF | it is? | 21:09 |
| MIF | how is it unsafe? | 21:10 |
| tomreyn | download from http, not https, code not verified, run | 21:10 |
| MIF | oh ok | 21:10 |
| MIF | how would I verify it? | 21:10 |
| tomreyn | against a cryptographic signature if one is provided. or a checksum | 21:11 |
| MIF | (what?) | 21:11 |
| tomreyn | the latter is just a rough check | 21:11 |
| MIF | and how would I do that? | 21:11 |
| tomreyn | the easiest option is robably to just use the HTTPS url, if you trust their webserver not to get compromised. it's not really enough, though. | 21:12 |
| tomreyn | you'll need to ask virtualmin folks how to verify the authenticity of their software downloads | 21:13 |
| MIF | ok, what else can I do? | 21:13 |
| MIF | ok | 21:13 |
| tomreyn | hmm, their installation guide is really bad https://www.virtualmin.com/download.html | 21:13 |
| MIF | ok | 21:13 |
| tomreyn | suggests doing exactly what you do | 21:13 |
| MIF | ok | 21:14 |
| tomreyn | apparently they provide gpg signed apt repositories http://software.virtualmin.com/vm/6/gpl/apt | 21:15 |
| MIF | they have apt? | 21:15 |
| tomreyn | why, did i write so? | 21:16 |
| tomreyn | oh yes, i did. then it could be so. | 21:17 |
| tomreyn | you could inspect the link and maybe find out for yourself. | 21:17 |
| MIF | I am | 21:17 |
| * MIF has to do it though way back because his school blocked https://virtualmin.com/ because of the forum | 21:18 | |
| MIF | so how would I do that with apt then? | 21:20 |
| MIF | I will just have to go the https route | 21:22 |
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| soulseeker | hey | 21:30 |
| MIF | hi | 21:30 |
| soulseeker | can this do a filrsystem backup at install like linuxmint | 21:30 |
| soulseeker | thinking of using the same version mint based on | 21:31 |
| soulseeker | choosing carefully | 21:33 |
| soulseeker | MIF are you interested? | 21:45 |
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