[03:04] <Zeesh> Hello. Can I get some help regarding the graphics please>
[09:08] <Fernando-Basso> JackFrost: Is this the PPA I should use for xfce 4.16?
[09:29] <Nikolaj_basher> hi there :-) Hi can I debug why my desktop crashes after I have connected my dockstation?
[09:33] <Nikolaj_basher> when i see the logfiles in /var/log/lightdm i can see that MESA-LOADER failed to open evdi but I don't know if that is the problem. What happend is when my laptop is connected to my usb docstation suddently, the desktop logsout and open a new session I thinkt and all the tinks i've been working on is gone
[09:39] <Nikolaj_basher> http://pastie.org/p/7p6CYo4DlCtd7hajLF8oob
[09:44] <Nikolaj_basher> by the way it doesn't crash when the dockingstation is unplugged.
[09:46] <Nikolaj_basher> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mym9ybhFQD/
[09:48] <brainwash> Nikolaj_basher: if you search the web for "crash unw_get_proc_name failed: no unwind info found" you'll get quite some results
[09:49] <Nikolaj_basher> brainwash, thanks i will do it right away
[09:49] <brainwash> btw is this something new or did it start happening after you've install additional packages/drivers?
[09:50] <brainwash> you've installed
[09:51] <Nikolaj_basher> brainwash, I don't know actually but I know it's a trouble in other distribution but i like xubuntu so much so I really want to solve it
[09:51] <Nikolaj_basher> brainwash, i will reach out for you when I have google youre suggestion
[09:52] <brainwash> I'm afraid I may not be able to help with this other than pointing out that plenty of reports exist
[09:58] <Nikolaj_basher> brainwash, thanks. But I only see conclusions not problem solving on google
[10:10] <xu-help37w> I've got Asus Eee PC 1001P and Xubuntu 20.10 installed. There is Intel GMA 3150 (or anything like that, because different programmes show different names, like.. "Intel Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics"... or like... "Intel Open Source Technology Center Mesa DRI Intel(R) Pineview M x86/MMX/SSE2". The point is: I would like to
[10:10] <xu-help37w> launch a game which requires at least OpenGL 2.1. Even HALF-LIFE made in 1998 somehow requires Version 2.1... And other games made with Source Engine from Half-Life 2. My system shows that OpenGL 1.4 is supported and something like OpenGL ES 2.0. I've googled a lot and found out, that in early years my netbook supported OpenGL 2.0 (or even 2.1,
[10:10] <xu-help37w> don't know for sure), but Intel removed the support of these versions in their drivers later downgrading it to OpenGL 1.4. Some say it was never supported or supported poorly. Some say it is possible to configure something and to make it work. Please, tell me if there are ways to actually make my netbook work with OpenGL 2.1. Thank you.
[10:12] <Nikolaj_basher> evdi-dkms was missing and was the reason for the chrashes
[10:12] <Nikolaj_basher> a guy from #xfce told me and i works :-)
[10:13] <xu-help37w> evdi-dkms? or this answer was not for me? :)
[10:15] <Nikolaj_basher> xu-help37w, not for you sorry
[10:15] <brainwash> Nikolaj_basher: great :)
[10:15] <xu-help37w> ah ok :D
[10:15] <Nikolaj_basher> brainwash, Yes that is really nice
[10:16] <brainwash> xu-help37w: your question is not related to Xubuntu
[10:16] <xu-help37w> where may I ask my question?
[10:16] <brainwash> I think there is #intel-gfx
[10:17] <xu-help37w> Thanks a lot! :3
[12:03] <JackFrost> Fernando-Basso: Not sure what this refers to, but ppa:xubuntu-dev/staging is correct.
[12:13] <Fernando-Basso> JackFrost: Thanks.
[12:14] <JackFrost> Sure thing.
[13:39] <xu-irc75w> Hullo! Is this the right place to get help with my fresh Xubuntu install?
[13:40] <diogenes_> !ask | xu-irc75w
[13:42] <xu-irc75w> RIght, sorry... I had these preset functions such as volume up/down on my fn keys with Windows, is there a way to get that back?
[13:45] <diogenes_> xu-irc75w, if they worked in win they should be working on Xubuntu too, what happens when you press them?
[13:47] <xu-irc75w> My bad, just noticed some do work... volume up, down and mute seem to be working, but brightness up/down and mute mic does nothing
[13:47] <xu-irc75w> backlight toggle also seems to work
[13:50] <xu-irc89w> sorry, I got disconnected there for a sec, was asking about the fn keys
[13:53] <diogenes_> xu-irc89w, do you have power manager plugin added to the panel? if you scroll the mouse wheel over it, does it change the brightness?>
[13:55] <xu-irc89w> I don't know what the power manager plugin is, but I can click on the battery icon in the top right corner and change brightness with a slider from there
[13:56] <diogenes_> xu-irc89w, that is it, that batter icon is called power manager plugin and you can adjust the brightness by just hovering over and scrolling up/down with the mousewheel.
[13:57] <diogenes_> tell me if you can.
[13:57] <xu-irc89w> yes
[13:57] <xu-irc89w> - yes I can
[13:57] <diogenes_> then the brightness keys should be working too.
[13:58] <xu-irc89w> that is not the case sadly
[13:59] <diogenes_> what happens when you press fn+brightness key?
[14:00] <xu-irc89w> Find in page pops up... I'd guess that just makes the regular f3 happen
[14:02] <diogenes_> try then to simply press f3 without fn
[14:02] <xu-irc89w> That does nothing
[14:03] <xu-irc89w> Also the little indicator lights on the volume and mic enable / disable keys are stuck
[14:03] <diogenes_> but does the notification appear at least? like the volume slider but this time brightness slidep popup?
[14:04] <xu-irc89w> nothing appears
[14:09] <diogenes_> xu-irc89w, try the following command:
[14:09] <diogenes_> xfconf-query -c xfce4-power-manager -p /xfce4-power-manager/handle-brightness-keys --create -t bool -s true
[14:09] <diogenes_> all in one row in terminal and hit enter.
[14:10] <xu-irc89w> is there a way to copy that or do I have to type it out?
[14:11] <diogenes_> of course you can copy it.
[14:11] <diogenes_> and right click in terminal and paste.
[14:12] <xu-irc89w> Right, you can't use Ctrl-V in terminal... okay, copied and hit enter, sadly no change
[14:12] <diogenes_> now relog.
[14:12] <diogenes_> log out and back.
[14:13] <xu-irc89w> okay
[14:14] <fkeysguy> no luck sadly
[14:15] <diogenes_> fkeysguy, in terminal write the following:
[14:15] <diogenes_> xfce4-power-manager -q
[14:15] <diogenes_> hit enter
[14:15] <diogenes_> then:
[14:15] <diogenes_> xfce4-power-manager --no-daemon --debug
[14:16] <diogenes_> you gonna see a lot of text and when the text stops moving forward, hit: brightness up
[14:16] <diogenes_> and see what new lines appear in terminal output.
[14:16] <diogenes_> if it's less than 4 lines, copy/paste them in here.
[14:17] <fkeysguy> right
[14:19] <fkeysguy> I don't think anything new appears when I hit brightness up
[14:20] <fkeysguy> TRACE[xfpm-polkit.c:241] xfpm_polkit_free_data(): Destroying Polkit data^CTRACE[xfpm-main.c:68] xfpm_quit_signal(): sig 2TRACE[xfpm-manager.c:941] xfpm_manager_stop(): StoppingTRACE[xfpm-manager.c:262] xfpm_manager_quit(): Exitingxfce4-power-manager-Message: 15:20:14.072: Restored brightness switch value to: 1
[14:21] <fkeysguy> Little lost in the terminal, is that it?
[14:22] <diogenes_> you have to scroll down to the last line and then press brightness up or down.
[14:22] <fkeysguy> alright let me try again
[14:22] <diogenes_> you should be getting something like: TRACE[xfpm-backlight.c:185] xfpm_backlight_show(): Level
[14:24] <fkeysguy> no, nothing happens when I press the brightness keys, I just get this after a moment
[14:25] <fkeysguy> TRACE[xfpm-polkit.c:241] xfpm_polkit_free_data(): Destroying Polkit data
[14:26] <diogenes_> then i guess i can only help you with doing some automated scripts to change the brightness when you press the key combination (if no one has a better idea).
[14:28] <fkeysguy> Thanks for the effort, do you maybe have an idea on how to fix the small light on the mute mic and mute speakers key? They seem to be stuck in the last position windows left them in, and although the mute volume key works, it doesn't toggle the light
[14:30] <diogenes_> what i can tell you, booting from windows to linux sometimes leads to devices not working properly, i'd suggest you boot the live installation media theu USB or DVD that you installed Xubuntu from, and see if all the keys work in the live environment, and if they do, i can only blame windows (also make sure secure boot is disabled in BIOS).
[14:32] <fkeysguy> right I guess I'll try
[14:33] <diogenes_> ok and come back with a feedback.
[14:33] <fkeysguy> roger that, be right back
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[14:39] <Guest13417> re a ced w th n bers
[14:40] <Guest13417> keyboard remapped itself
[14:41] <Guest13417> can anybody help
[14:44] <Guest13417> cannot use left side of it
[14:45] <Guest13417> letters replaced with numbers
[14:46] <Guest13417> * r ght s de
[15:07] <nothingisworking> Console asks for password but doesn't let me input any characters?
[15:10] <Maik> nothingisworking: you don't see your password in console
[15:11] <Maik> just type it and hit enter
[15:12] <nothingisworking> oh ok, thanks
[15:12] <Maik> yw
[15:15] <nothingisworking> alright, so the install command run, but I don't see the app anywhere... do I need to restart after an app install from console?
[15:20] <coconut> nothingisworking, apps you can launch from the menu ( https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Xubuntu_18.04_LTS_English.png/1200px-Xubuntu_18.04_LTS_English.png )
[15:21] <Maik> nothingisworking: what app?
[15:21] <Maik> please try to be more specific
[15:22] <nothingisworking> gnome disk utiliy... trying to get an iso on my usb key. The tutorial includes a command to install which I did. It then sais to open it, but I cannot find it
[15:29] <coconut> nothingisworking, does it appear when you put "disk" in menus search box?
[15:29] <nothingisworking> no
[15:30] <coconut> nothingisworking, then you did not install it
[15:33] <nothingisworking> oh... does it just appear under the name "disks" instead of gnome disk utility?
[15:34] <coconut> nothingisworking, what does "apt policy gnome-disk-utility" say?
[15:43] <nothingisworking> installed, candidate and it gives a version table
[15:43] <nothingisworking> if anyone could help me get audio and mic working on Skype that'd be great also
[15:44] <diogenes_> nothingisworking, does it work at all?
[15:45] <nothingisworking> well when I get a call the ringing is there, but once I accept it there is no audio
[15:46] <diogenes_> you cannot hear them or voce-versa?
[15:47] <nothingisworking> yup, though I might have just gotten my audio to work somehow... I think. Microphone definitely doesn't work though
[15:49] <diogenes_> open pavucontron > input devices and say something, notice if the volume bar is moving.
[15:49] <nothingisworking> How do I open pavucontron?
[15:50] <diogenes_> in menu type it.
[15:50] <diogenes_> pavucontrol*
[15:51] <nothingisworking> yep I do see the levels raise when I speak
[15:52] <diogenes_> then go to skype audio settings and try the options there.
[15:53] <nothingisworking> I set Skype setting to use the same microphone that I saw the levels change on, in fact I tried all the options, and nothing works
[15:53] <coconut> nothingisworking, then it is installed. Searc better in your menu, or launch it from terminal with "gnome-disks".
[15:54] <diogenes_> nothingisworking, then i'd suggest you install Chrome and try it out in web.skype.com
[15:55] <nothingisworking> thank you both
[16:47] <indeedwatson> hello, fresh xubuntu install, updated and rebooted. Resolution is super low (640x460) and there's no other options available
[16:47] <indeedwatson> on a laptop
[16:48] <xu-help5w> Hello, I have following issue. When I boot my system, the panel shows up corrupted and the lock screen doesn' display the correct theme. I thought it had to do with the greeter but it doesn't. What could be causing this?
[16:57] <diogenes_> xu-help5w, in terminal run:
[16:57] <diogenes_> xfconf-query -c xfwm4 -p /general/vblank_mode -t string -s "glx" --create
[16:57] <diogenes_> reboot
[16:57] <xu-help5w> what does it do?
[16:58] <diogenes_> indeedwatson, run: inxi -Gc0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:58] <diogenes_> share url
[16:59] <diogenes_> xu-help5w, it changes the compositor backend from xpresent to glx.
[16:59] <indeedwatson> https://termbin.com/rax2 diogenes_
[16:59] <xu-help5w> diogenes_ did it, same thing
[17:00] <diogenes_> xu-help5w, rebooted?
[17:00] <xu-help5w> yeah
[17:01] <diogenes_> is 'save session' enabled?
[17:01] <xu-help5w> diogenes_ no
[17:02] <diogenes_> indeedwatson, with silicon GPU it's pretty paintful to make it fly.
[17:03] <diogenes_> xu-help5w, then try: xfwm4 --vblank=off --replace
[17:04] <xu-help5w> It's as if two themes would be run at the same time
[17:04] <xu-help5w> and reboot?
[17:05] <xu-help5w> "Waiting for current window manager (Xfwm4) on screen :0.0 to exit: Done"
[17:06] <xu-help5w> diogenes_ no change
[17:08] <indeedwatson> diogenes_: what does that mean? I previously tried lubuntu and it gave me other issues, but they display was at least 1024
[17:08] <diogenes_> xu-help5w, then go to window manager tweaks > compositor and disable it completely and relog.
[17:10] <xu-help5w> diogenes_ Iog out and in again, everything looks like it should, it's only on fresh start, that it happens... i'm rebooting...
[17:11] <diogenes_> indeedwatson, it says: driver: N/A which means no drive available and it should be installed via 3rd party (if not in the repos).
[17:11] <xu-help5w> diogenes_ and it happens anyhow
[17:12] <diogenes_> xu-help5w, gotta screenshot of the problem?
[17:15] <xu-help5w> diogenes_ https://postimg.cc/dLGVZpwf I cannot make a screenshot of the lock screen, but 's displayed with complete different icons and theme
[17:18] <diogenes_> xu-help5w, xfwm4 --version
[17:18] <diogenes_> xfce4-panel --version
[17:19] <xu-help5w> first work-around was deleting the home folder and letting the system populate it anew at boot. That solved the panel issue, about hte lock screeen I don't know, because I hadn't noticed that issue yet. Second was the command 'xfce4-panel -r', whicjh solves the panelö issue, but not the lock screen...
[17:20] <xu-help5w> diogenes_ This is xfwm4 version 4.14.1 (revision 44809c49) for Xfce 4.14
[17:20] <xu-help5w> xfce4-panel 4.14.3 (Xfce 4.14)
[17:20] <diogenes_> xu-help5w, did you add any PPAs?
[17:21] <xu-help5w> I have added some, but then removed them...
[17:22] <diogenes_> what PPAs you added? Xfce related i guess.
[17:22] <indeedwatson> diogenes_: i'm trying to install this but can't find it in the package manager https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/xserver-xorg-video-sis
[17:22] <xu-help5w> if the question is if I am connected to other ppas, the answer is yes. but I didn't install any in relation to this issue.
[17:24] <diogenes_> some packages that you installed from PPAs might have caused the issue.
[17:26] <ScienceMr> Try reading this:   https://www.csestack.org/auto-remove-all-unused-packages-ubuntu-linux/
[17:26] <indeedwatson> after some googling, a proposed solution is to install an old version of Mint. Wasn't planning on distro hopping but oh well
[17:28] <diogenes_> indeedwatson, old version of mint might be unsupported already.
[17:28] <indeedwatson> it's that, arch or back to windows. I gotta install *something*
[17:29] <indeedwatson> and now xubuntu is freezing after idling for 5min
[17:29] <ScienceMr> Indeedwatson, it sounds like a screen-saver issue or something related to it.
[17:30] <diogenes_> indeedwatson, try MX Linux or antiX
[17:30] <indeedwatson> never heard of those
[17:31] <indeedwatson> will try
[17:31] <ScienceMr> Open up a terminal and enter:     top
[17:32] <ScienceMr> With Windows there is a software called:   What's Running  It is free.
[17:36] <ScienceMr> The command:   lsmod     is helpful
[17:37] <indeedwatson> why can't i install that package i linked tho? Isn't it supposed to be in the default repos?
[17:38] <diogenes_> indeedwatson, that is fot Xubuntu 14
[17:39] <indeedwatson> there's different repos for different versions? (I come from arch so ubuntu repos are confusing)
[17:40] <ScienceMr> Indeedwatson when you research on Google do you use ubuntu in your search or   xubuntu?   It makes a difference.
[17:41] <indeedwatson> xubuntu but ubuntu stuff comes up
[17:41] <ScienceMr> It will by default.
[17:42] <diogenes_> indeedwatson, support for older hardware sometimes is being dropped in the newer versions.
[17:42] <ScienceMr> Try this command when you search:   Xubuntu howto ... do this or that. Talk to Google as if it were a real person and you will find your answer.
[17:42] <ScienceMr> The old stuff is called:   Legacy
[17:44] <ScienceMr> Google does a Meta Data Search for you.
[17:44] <indeedwatson> there's simply not many results for SIS graphics specific to xubuntu
[17:44] <indeedwatson> i found a script to try but it seems pretty specific
[17:44] <indeedwatson> might as well
[17:45] <ScienceMr> Indeedwatson explain what graphics results you want to accomplish.
[17:45] <indeedwatson> resolution higher than 640x480
[17:46] <ScienceMr> What is the resolution of your Monitor?
[17:46] <indeedwatson> i don't know the native resolution of this screen, but on lubuntu i got 1024
[17:46] <ScienceMr> Usually it is 1024x768
[17:46] <indeedwatson> possibly
[17:46] <indeedwatson> but that doesn't show up as an option here
[17:46] <ScienceMr> That is the Aspect Ratio.
[17:47] <ScienceMr> 1024 is your Horizontal and  768 is your Vertical measurement or part of the ratio.
[17:47] <indeedwatson> i know how resolutions work :p
[17:48] <indeedwatson> but xubuntu only gives me a very small resolution
[17:48] <ScienceMr> Good  :)
[17:48] <ScienceMr> I need to warn you that if you mess with the resolution and send unwanted voltages to the monitor, you may ruin it.
[17:49] <indeedwatson> I only want to set it to the native resolution
[17:49] <ScienceMr> If you are running a legacy monitor there is an old software for Linux called:  Xvidtune   it works but comes with a warning how to use it.
[17:51] <indeedwatson> ubuntu is so much more complicated than arch lol
[17:53] <ScienceMr> Indeedwatson, In my personal experience, I opted not to use the latest Kernel of Xubuntu for Engineering reasons. Just because a new kernel is out there, that does not mean that it is good for all situations.
[17:56] <ScienceMr> Indeedwatson, If you have done your homework, you will know that many of the best kernels are compiled so you can download the ISO and use it: Live Version before installing it.
[17:56] <indeedwatson> i've done that, but the live version displays a different resolution
[17:57] <ScienceMr> Of course!  The different resolution is by   default
[17:57] <ScienceMr> You can change the resolution with the Live version too.
[17:57] <ScienceMr> It is only temporary you do know.
[17:58] <indeedwatson> yes. I don't think you're understanding my problem tho
[17:58] <ScienceMr> Shed some more light on the subject please.
[17:59] <indeedwatson> I need a distro that supports SiS graphic drivers, it seems that almost none do unless you use outdated versions
[17:59] <indeedwatson> like, really old
[18:01] <ScienceMr> Well, I thought it might be good for you to install  VMWare either on Windows or Xubuntu and experiment with it with your drivers in that you won't have to change anything outside VMWare.
[18:02] <indeedwatson> this laptop is really old, i dont know if it can run a VM
[18:02] <ScienceMr> Otherwise find an old box and use that to settle your issues.
[18:03] <indeedwatson> im going to try arch since there is a SiS package
[18:03] <indeedwatson> if that don't work i'll just give up
[18:03] <ScienceMr> VM-Ware will only run on the data bit platform of the computer. Since you have an old computer, you will need to use Legacy Software.
[18:04] <ScienceMr> Hold on one second.
[18:05] <ScienceMr> Indeedwatson read this:   https://www.linux.com/topic/desktop/4-best-linux-distros-older-hardware/
[18:06] <ScienceMr> There are other resources such as  BSD
[18:06] <ScienceMr> BSD has a kernel on a floppy disk.
[18:07] <indeedwatson> but does it support SiS drivers?
[18:08] <ScienceMr> Find out. BSD has been around for a long time. BSD is the closest to the true UNIX kernel above Linux. It is called:  Unices
[18:09] <ScienceMr> Debian is in the forefront of kernels.
[18:09] <indeedwatson> the first result is "BSD sis problems" lol
[18:10] <ScienceMr> Indeedwatson, have you done anything with your BIOS?   Anything?
[18:10] <indeedwatson> nope
[18:11] <ScienceMr> OK! So you want to install SiS on a legacy machine.
[18:11] <indeedwatson> ya
[18:13] <ScienceMr> Personally, I would have to sit and ponder this a while due to the fact that my system is not legacy per se  it is a 64 bit Hardware and runs like a top.'
[18:16] <indeedwatson> i thought it would be much easier, i'm very disappointed
[18:16] <indeedwatson> all this time and googling is not worth what i'm getting paid for it
[18:16] <ScienceMr> Indeedwatson, I have my own IRC Server I run and I am the Andministrator. I shut it down for the nonse. I will open it up. It has an HTML interface that my website you can click on it and you will be in an HTML mode to talk to any IRC server.
[18:19] <ScienceMr> There are a lot of things you can do with Xubuntu. Xubuntu is the choice I made for many reasons.
[18:19] <indeedwatson> thanks but i'm gonna try with Arch next
[18:20] <ScienceMr> OK tell us what you did and how it worked. :)
[18:22] <ScienceMr> I was wondering if there are any musicians out there    here
[18:23] <ScienceMr> I found an excellent software program and looking for anyone who has used it.
[18:24] <ScienceMr> The software is for guitarists called:   Rakarrack
[18:59] <indeedwatson> booting xubuntu in safe mode gives me 1024x768 resolution
[19:00] <indeedwatson> (couldn't get the laptop to recognize the pendrive with arch)
[19:01] <ScienceMr> The USB device needs to be     Mounted
[19:01] <indeedwatson> well i might just set up grub to default to safe mode
[19:02] <indeedwatson> i dont understand why safe mode displays correct resolution but normal mode doesn't
[19:03] <ScienceMr> https://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/grub-rescue-commands/
[19:06] <ScienceMr> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=214275
[19:36] <ScienceMr> Indeedwatson,  Safe Mode is what it is:  SAFE  It displays your true resolution of your monitor. You haven't given yourself the understanding that you cannot assign a resolution to a Legacy Monitor that does not exist.
[19:42] <ScienceMr> Indeedwatson, as I type here, I am using a    LEGACY  Monitor.   An old Dell  CRT   Not an  LCD
[19:42] <ScienceMr> The resolution on this monitor is fantastic.
[19:55] <indeedwatson> ScienceMr: but you're not telling me what to do. Why is safe mode able to display proper resolution, but the normal boot isn't? And how do I fix it?
[19:58] <ScienceMr> GRUB has a   "Repair"  or fixit mode. Try that. Have you set a:  "Restore Point" ?
[19:59] <ScienceMr> Make sure you back-up your system before making changes. < ----------- <
[20:09] <ScienceMr> The Stimulus checks are being blocked by  the   TRUMPets & Congorus.
[20:13] <indeedwatson> man i can't even boot from the usb now...
[20:13] <indeedwatson> what tool do you use to make a bootable pendrive?
[20:14] <ScienceMr> You cannot boot from USB unless there is a vmlinuz boot system on it.
[20:14] <indeedwatson> huh? there is a lubuntu iso in it
[20:14] <indeedwatson> it's how i installed lubuntu and xubuntu today
[20:17] <ScienceMr> Use a pre-existing Xubuntu install and sudo apt-get-update   it and that will work.
[20:18] <ScienceMr> Then sudo apt-get upgrade and update it again and again.
[20:19] <indeedwatson> mate i have a lubuntu iso in my pendrive, i want to install lubuntu again on the laptop and wipe xubuntu
[20:19] <ScienceMr> Start over.
[20:19] <indeedwatson> it's what im trying to do
[20:20] <ScienceMr> Do it from scratch. Do a  DOD  erasure of the drive then install again.
[20:20] <ScienceMr> DOD Erasure is a:   Department Of Defense   Erasure which cleans the hard disk. Then write on the disk.
[20:21] <indeedwatson> yeah i will, it's just annoying that it's 2020 and there's no tools to do this manually. I tried 5 tools suggested in the arch wiki, and they all gave me issues
[20:21] <indeedwatson> automatically*
[20:22] <ScienceMr> Stop thinking about    arch   <----------<<
[20:22] <ScienceMr> Fix your computer first then start thinking.
[20:23] <indeedwatson> arch has the best documentation. I can't fix it without reading documentation
[20:23] <ScienceMr> The clock is ticking. How many pages have you read?
[20:24] <indeedwatson> many
[20:26] <ScienceMr> The answer is:    All     EVERY  PAGE
[20:37] <ScienceMr> Poindexter   That's a cool nick    :)
[20:40] <indeedwatson> i wiped the pendrive and flashed MX linux on it with unetbootin, laptop still won't boot from it
[20:44] <p0indexter> ScienceMr: ty
[21:46] <indeedwatson> okay so the pendrive works, tested on my desktop. But the laptop just refuses to boot from it. Could xfce be interfering?
[22:04] <tomreyn> i think you'r elooking for mx linux support. not sure where that is.
[22:15] <indeedwatson> i tried many distros in the pendrive, not just MX
[23:02] <guiverc> indeedwatson, Xfce is a desktop; the OS has already booted well before it starts X and the gui/desktop..
[23:38] <xu-irc14w> ola me parece que foi capturado  meu pc na ora da instalação que esta corrompendoas. e da erro ao iniciar, meu pc estou usando neste momento esta macna live do xubuntu para pedir suporte de correção e instalação
[23:38] <xu-irc14w> sou brasileiro e falo portugues
[23:40] <xu-irc14w> o software que esta gravado nesta midia de instalaçõa usb é a que estou usando agora. O mesmo pela primeira vez ficou fexando sozinho a instalação e enviando relatorios automaticamente.
[23:41] <xu-irc14w> da erro de kernel ao iniciar. e depos de 5 tentativas inicia esta live usb
[23:41] <xu-irc14w> ha erros tambem ao gravar na instalação o grub. e erro de dpkg.
[23:42] <xu-irc14w> pode me ajudar?
[23:48] <guiverc> xu-irc14w, I'd suggest https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList and using a channel in your own language  (most people here speak only english)
[23:50] <guiverc> Requests to send reports are because of files in /var/crash/; once submitted the filename is changed to end with a .uploaded  you can delete them and prompts to upload won't re-occur (should attempts to submit reports fail)
[23:50] <xu-irc14w> hello it seems to me that my pc was captured at the time of the installation that is corrupting them. and the error when starting, my pc I am currently using this macna live from xubuntu to ask for fix and installation supportI am Brazilian and I speak Portuguesexu-irc14w20:40:20the software that is recorded on this usb installation media is the
[23:50] <xu-irc14w> one that i am using now. For the first time, he fixed the installation alone and sent reports automatically.kernel error when starting. and after 5 attempts start this live usbthere are also errors when saving grub to the installation. and dpkg error.can you help me?
[23:51] <guiverc> What release of Xubuntu are you using? have installed?  I can look if you paste errors
[23:51] <guiverc> !pastebinit
[23:54] <xu-irc14w> then when installing this information will solve the initialization and installation problem?
[23:57] <guiverc> xu-irc14w, pastebinit allows you to provide a paste of your error messages so people here (IRC) or other support venues can see it; it doesn't itself change/solve anything
[23:57] <xu-irc14w> this is the latest lts version 20.10
[23:57] <xu-irc14w> You can access, to check
[23:59] <guiverc> Xubuntu 20.10 is NOT a long-term-support release; 20.04 LTS is the latest LTS, 20.10 is a standard release