 @SomaSchicksal [Sorry if this is waaaay off topic for the group], i wouldn't call it offtopic perse :p
 @xander2m [<reply to media>], are you running this directly on your device?
 you might want to ssh into your device instead
 @Fuseteam [you might want to ssh into your device instead], Yes. I tried on device. I set up SSH on my pc, generated a key following the usbports docs but couldn't make ssh work. Do I just type SSH before the libertine-container-manager line in terminal on the pc?
 @xander2m [Yes. I tried on device. I set up SSH on my pc, generated a key following the usb …], did you add your public key to your phone?
 @Fuseteam [you might want to ssh into your device instead], [Edit] Yes. I tried on device. I set up SSH on my pc, generated a key following the usbports docs, transferred it and set up those other command lines on the phone but couldn't make ssh work. Do I just type SSH before the libertine-container-manager line in terminal on the pc?
 @Fuseteam [did you add your public key to your phone?], Yes
 so you ssh in?
 [Edit] so you can ssh in?
 like ssh phablet@phone-ip?
 If I type SSH shell I think it says something about command 20? I think. It was a few hours ago now
 [Edit] like `ssh phablet@phone-ip`
 eh?
 @Fuseteam [like ssh phablet@phone-ip], Yes. I think I tried that. I saw that on the site too
 @Fuseteam [eh?], I'm a bit new to this. Never done SSH before.
 did you give your keys a unique name
 I followed the instructions, didn't put a name or a password.
 @xander2m [I'm a bit new to this. Never done SSH before.], no worries, just that error sounds weird to me
 @xander2m [I followed the instructions, didn't put a name or a password.], ohw uh that's fine
 I think it set up okay but I didn't know how to dial up for the commands.
 can you send me what you get when you do `ssh phablet@phone-ip`
 Maybe I'll have another go tomorrow as it's after midnight lol
 @Fuseteam [can you send me what you get when you do ssh phablet@phone-ip], Will do.
 stupid question but did you replace `phone-ip` with the actual ip of your phone?
 No. I copied the website's commands 😂
 How do I find the actual phone ip? 😂😂😂
 😂😂😂😂
 you can find it with ip a on your phone's terminal
 Ah
 [Edit] you can find it with `ip a` on your phone's terminal
 @xander2m [No. I copied the website's commands 😂], Well there's your problem 😂
 Yes, I missed that bit. Is that what's after phablet??
 @jimdafoex [Well there's your problem 😂], Thanks!
 yeah so phablet is your username and the ip is your device
 @xander2m [Thanks!], No worries, its fine, we all learn new things
 Cool. I'll have a look when it's all on in the morning. Thanks guys
 sure no problem
 🥱
 @jimdafoex [No worries, its fine, we all learn new things], i remember when i first encountered ssh, i was like "what's the diffrence between openssh and ssh?"
 "wait its all the same?"
 @Fuseteam [i remember when i first encountered ssh, i was like "what's the diffrence betwee …], That's not an unreasonable thing to ask since there's a difference between OpenOffice and LibreOffice
 [Edit] "wait its all the same?" … "always has been"
 yeah true lol
 or OpenSSL and LibreSSL
 Or blackbox and busybox
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 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/yhONcgJ0.webp
 If you were to order a phone for ub touch, which is the best device to use?
 depends on your usecase really
 All I really need is messaging, calls, youtube and browsing. I was just looking for something that would run those things smoothly though.
 most of the devices can run those things smoothly
 tho youtube is a webapp on all of 'em
 also depends on the size you prefer
 for smaller phones, Xperia X is good based on my personal experience
 Right thats no big deal though to me. I have a oneplus 2. Do you know if it has any known issues?
 I think OnePlus phones are good too for bigger phonres
 most of the isse are likly to be logged on at least the forums
 [Edit] most of the issues are likly to be logged on at least the forums
 OK I will check there. Thank you all.
 @Randall [If you were to order a phone for ub touch, which is the best device to use?], How about pinephone?
[07:29] <ubptgbot> christian poncet was added by: christian poncet
 the pinephone isn't really ready for daily use
 Hi everybody. Can anybody give me an estimate on when Wayland and video capture will be supported on the PinePhone? Thanks!
 arch alarm on pinephone is pretty good though
[09:50] <ubptgbot> <christian poncet> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/3ovcJn0a.pdf
 Hi there. Trying "ssh phablet@phone-ip" and typed "ip a" in phone terminal to find the phone's ip. It brings up a lot of writing. Which bit is the phone's ip?
 @xander2m [Hi there. Trying "ssh phablet@phone-ip" and typed "ip a" in phone terminal to fi …], type ifconfig thats easier
 On the phone?
 Also you might need to start sshd in terminal first: sudo service sshd start
 neurons are the basis of brain functioning and electrically active cells. In neurons, fundamental functions such as neurotransmitter release, enzyme activation, intercellular signal transduction, and gene expression are critically dependent on electric signal. Therefore, it has been postulated several times a possible coupling of their
[10:16] <ubptgbot> electrical activity with RF FM field. The link between RF EM field with membrane is not proven but the membrane protein allows the ions passive movement from the external to internal field of the cell and vice-versa.
 On my phone it says that "Job is already running: ssh"
 (Video, 10s) https://irc.ubports.com/HytDfspz.mp4
 @Flohack So when I type "ifconfig" on my phone's terminal it brings up lots of command lines. Lots of them look like ip addresses.
 @xander2m [@Flohack So when I type "ifconfig" on my phone's terminal it brings up lots of c …], please make a pastebin, I cannot image it just so ^^
 Okay. How do I copy and paste? I couldn't understand how to do it on the phone. Sorry for being a n00b!
 Just send as creenshot then
 Okay. How can I move the keyboard off the screen?
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/aP7hXeII.png
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/UQzNoDCj.png @Flohack
 Type ip route
 phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$ ip route … default via 192.168.1.254 dev wlan0  proto static  metric 600  … 192.168.1.0/24 dev wlan0  proto kernel  scope link  src 192.168.1.112  metric 600  … phablet@ubuntu-phablet:~$
 So your address is 192.168.1.112
 So I typed in ssh phablet@192.18.1.254 and the terminal just hangs like it's thinking.
 @xander2m [So I typed in ssh phablet@192.18.1.254 and the terminal just hangs like it's thi …], Not the gateway
 Okay. Thanks.
 I'll try the other one then.😁👍
 (Photo, 669x324) https://irc.ubports.com/OZHV8WWj.png For the future you need to only look for this:
 I think it worked!
 or just go to wifi and check your current connection 😛
 BTW, why is your screenshot white-ish?
 @Flohack [<reply to media>], Thanks. I have downloaded the manual now so hopefully I can reduce my questions!
 @Javacookies [or just go to wifi and check your current connection 😛], I have no idea. I just opened terminal and pressed volume up + volume down and this is what it took. In my phone's gallery it is black but when I share via TELEports it goes white and blurred.
 oh it's the magic of telegram compression then 😅
 you have a transparent terminal that's why
 .....probably
[11:08] <ubptgbot> <Steven Dempster> Does demo support exchange (active sync)
[11:09] <ubptgbot> <Steven Dempster> dekko
[11:15] <ubptgbot> <Steven Dempster> I have bought a Oneplus One and am in the process of changing over fully to Ubuntu. I’m at work so any tips, links to forums (xda, etc) appreciated to stop me asking daft questions on this 😀
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/TDwe2x4w.png
 Actually, it isn't TELEports. In the gallery fingernails it looks black but when I open the image it is distorted.
 This is terminal magic. It does something to colors and transparency.
 😂
 yes really i have the same thing
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/oeJGKx0D.png
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/GRJk0JB5.png
 ignore the weird error message
 it has hdr 😄
 lol
 😍😍
 How to see the number of my phone stored in the SIM trough a command line?
 So I have libertine-container installed (via ssh!!😍) and it looks to have worked. I tried to install vlc via shh too but I think it failed although it is showing in the libertine settings app as being installed (package version 2.2.2-5ubuntu0.1.0.). This is the end of the terminal code. Have I done something wrong?     Reading package l
[11:38] <ubptgbot> ists... … Building dependency tree... … Reading state information... … The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: …   libpcre16-3 … Use 'apt autoremove' to remove it. … 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. … ChrootContainer.py:235: INFO: _run_ldconfig():    Refreshing the container's dynam
[11:38] <ubptgbot> ic linker run-time bindings... … proot warning: sanitizing the guest path (binding) "/run/shm": Too many levels of symbolic links
 [Edit] So I have libertine-container installed (via ssh!!😍) and it looks to have worked. I tried to install vlc via shh too but I think it failed although it is showing in the libertine settings app as being installed (package version 2.2.2-5ubuntu0.1.0.). This is the end of the terminal code. Have I done something wrong?
[11:39] <ubptgbot>        Reading package lists... … Building dependency tree... … Reading state information... … The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: …   libpcre16-3 … Use 'apt autoremove' to remove it. … 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. … ChrootContainer.py:235: INFO: _run_ldconfig():    Refreshi
[11:39] <ubptgbot> ng the container's dynamic linker run-time bindings... … proot warning: sanitizing the guest path (binding) "/run/shm": Too many levels of symbolic links
 [Edit] So I have libertine-container installed (via ssh!!😍) and it looks to have worked. I tried to install vlc via shh too but I think it failed although it is showing in the libertine settings app as being installed (package version 2.2.2-5ubuntu0.1.0.). This is the end of the terminal code. Have I done something wrong? The app isn't
[11:40] <ubptgbot> in the draw either (as it didn't install properly)          Reading package lists... … Building dependency tree... … Reading state information... … The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: …   libpcre16-3 … Use 'apt autoremove' to remove it. … 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. … Chroo
[11:40] <ubptgbot> tContainer.py:235: INFO: _run_ldconfig():    Refreshing the container's dynamic linker run-time bindings... … proot warning: sanitizing the guest path (binding) "/run/shm": Too many levels of symbolic links
 with what command did you install it?
 libertine-container-manager install-package -p vlc
 Oh it's there in the app drawer now after a reboot!
[11:47] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> can i hack wifi with ubtouch
 Although it immediately crashes.
 @Oxy Kali [can i hack wifi with ubtouch], No.
[11:48] <ubptgbot> <Oxy Kali> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Dzoi2jMw.webp
 @Flohack I have updated the raised a PR to include instructions on identifying the ip address required for ssh connection.Following is the PR link: https://github.com/ubports/docs.ubports.com/pull/372 . Can please review & merge the same.
 This is amazing Sanath 😘
 @xander2m [This is amazing Sanath 😘], Thanks😊
 @Sanath [@Flohack I have updated the raised a PR to include instructions on identifying t …], Can do yes
 @Flohack [Can do yes], Thanks👍
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 hello everyone, i'm a newbie trying to port my xiaomi phone to ubuntu touch, will try to read as much information as i can get. thx for letting me in
 Hey quick question. I finally got to install ub touch on my oneplus 2 but for some reason have no sound. I checked the forum and it said that sound worked but I was wondering if anyone else had this issue and knows how to fix it.
 @ipoyman [hello everyone, i'm a newbie trying to port my xiaomi phone to ubuntu touch, wil …], which model?
 i have redmi 7
 ok, so it's almost ported
 @ipoyman [hello everyone, i'm a newbie trying to port my xiaomi phone to ubuntu touch, wil …], you can install it now (GSI) or finish systemimage porting https://github.com/Vin4ter/Ubports-Onclite-redmi7/blob/master/README.md
 gsi is from October
 ah yes, been reading this and finding info from youtube
 @just_carlod [you can install it now (GSI) or finish systemimage porting https://github.com/Vi …], https://gitlab.com/ubports/community-ports/android9/xiaomi-redmi-7/xiaomi-onclite - this was tested to boot yesterday, but not integrated with system-image server yet
 @NotKit [https://gitlab.com/ubports/community-ports/android9/xiaomi-redmi-7/xiaomi-onclit …], thx, will look into this
 @blinovartem [Good afternoon, I really liked the appearance of Ubuntu Touch in the screenshots …], I really want you to tell me where to get design elements and so on?
 Hey everyone, I finally got to install ub touch on my oneplus 2 but for some reason have no sound. I checked the forum and it said that sound worked but I was wondering if anyone else had this issue and knows how to fix it.
 @xander2m [Oh it's there in the app drawer now after a reboot!], ah pull to refresh
 @xander2m [Although it immediately crashes.], hmmmm\
 @xander2m [Although it immediately crashes.], [Edit] hmmmm
 @Randall [Hey everyone, I finally got to install ub touch on my oneplus 2 but for some rea …], did you.......repost?
 @blinovartem [I really want you to tell me where to get design elements and so on?], maybe @cibersheep could help you
 @blinovartem [I really want you to tell me where to get design elements and so on?], [Edit] maybe @cibersheep could help you with that
 I'm sorry I did
 @Randall [I'm sorry I did], no worries, this group is rather busy after all, have posted on the forum maybe? the people in that thread might find it easier there
 OK I haven't done that yet. I will go there and see if I can find anything. I just found this room yesterday. Thank you
 sure no problem
 with "busy" i mean that there's a lot of traffic here so things tend to get lost
 Yeah I could definitely see that happening
 @Fuseteam [hmmmm], Any ideas?
 @xander2m [Any ideas?], maybe you can check the libertine logs in uh just a sec
 `~/.cache/upstart`
 https://github.com/ubports/libertine
 @blinovartem [I really want you to tell me where to get design elements and so on?], Sure. What are you thinking about? Making a mockup or need a guideline or...
 @Randall [Yeah I could definitely see that happening], Sometimes it is also simply because no one with your phone is around that can answer your question. No point telling you that on my (different) devices I do not have this issue. ☺
 https://discord.gg/ECnYcySv
 Come if u want to join me on discord
 Don't promote stuff here pls
 Hi @ggio01, please don't post spam or unrelated self-promotion in this group.
 @Danfro [Sometimes it is also simply because no one with your phone is around that can an …], Right, yeah that makes sense too
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 Hello, did anyone had maybe an issue with UT that it studenty stops seeing a sim card and you can make a phone call, use cellural data but cannot send text message ?
 *have
[15:54] <ubptgbot> moj_al3 was added by: moj_al3
 What are your thoughts on showing shutdown & restart options in dash search similar to what gnome does.I would be useful in cases where long press on power button does not show shutdown/restart options.I see this happen sometimes in my phone(Xiaomi mi A3)
 @srdempster [Does demo support exchange (active sync)], probably not i guess
 @Sanath [What are your thoughts on showing shutdown & restart options in dash search simi …], Wdym
 I have in the notification area thing a shutdown button
 @amyosx [Wdym], gnome has shutdown/reboot/logout/lock screen as `.desktop` entries that show up when you search for them.
 Ahh
 @Sanath [What are your thoughts on showing shutdown & restart options in dash search simi …], i guess some devices still are not complete ports and have such issues
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 @cibersheep [Sure. What are you thinking about? Making a mockup or need a guideline or...], Need of course guideline and mockups, but also other various elements, including specifications and plus screenshots of the interface of how it works. I saw this page, but it is very small for my task https://ubports.com/design-guidelines. In a
[18:41] <ubptgbot> ddition to this idea, I have other cool ideas for Ubuntu. (Thanks Tobiyo and thanks in advance Joan)
 @blinovartem [Need of course guideline and mockups, but also other various elements, including …], You might find useful these links: … http://docs.ubports.com/projects/icons/ … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/humanguide/ … https://gitlab.com/cibersheep/mockup-templates
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 Hello everyone. Is it ok asking for help here?
 @blinovartem [Need of course guideline and mockups, but also other various elements, including …], UT isn't an Android ROM. There isn't a set of images you can take and just make an Android theme from. Some others have tried to make Android styles that look like UT, but you are not going to get the same experience from it.
 @dohbee [UT isn't an Android ROM. There isn't a set of images you can take and just make …], +1
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 Any new of oneplus 5 cheeseburger ubuntu
 @SehjanS [Any new of oneplus 5 cheeseburger ubuntu], @vince1171 do you think we can release a test build? ^^
 it will be ready when it's ready. :P
 Well its basically already testable, maybe not ready for daily
 I want test build  rom  for tmp...
 @Flohack [@vince1171 do you think we can release a test build? ^^], Sure … Appart from the wifi indicator bug almost everything works (mtp and dev mode still need some love iirc)
 I want to see new rom function.
 @Flohack [@vince1171 do you think we can release a test build? ^^], [Edit] Sure … Appart from the wifi indicator bug, almost everything works (mtp and dev mode still need some love iirc)
 @vince1171 [Sure … Appart from the wifi indicator bug, almost everything works (mtp and dev mo …], Yeah thats not critical
 @SehjanS [I want to see new rom function.], Dont call it ROM please ^^
 Its a different operating system. ROM sounds like its just Android
 I dunno who came up with this name in the first place, its also technically wrong for Android but ok
 Yeah we will publish install instructions here: https://forums.ubports.com/category/53/oneplus-5-5t - come back now and then to see if they have been written ^^
 Florian, well UT is kinda based on Android, just cuz the hardware demands it.
 You know it better than I would ever do :P
 "based on" implies something that isn't there to most people. We use a build of Android in a container exclusively for its drivers, and the Android kernel so we don't need to rewrite those drivers.
 There is no Java VM whatsoever, Android apps will not run.
 mhm
[20:02] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> Well they do run on Anbox
 anbox is a container
 That is true. That is another Android container.
 Dalton, how similar Anbox to wine in our case?
[20:04] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> Why not use the same container for both? Can lxc have graphics?
 @Heng Ye [Why not use the same container for both? Can lxc have graphics?], Not worth it. The Anbox container is finnicky enough if it isn't different on every device.
 @Heng Ye [Why not use the same container for both? Can lxc have graphics?], http://vmi480016.contaboserver.net:8080/job/halium-box-10-arm64/ - if you want to help, but not extra useful yet
 oh trust me Anbox is not reliable to have it as a main thing
 who knows, maybe at some point a better solution comes up, or UT would have it's own apps that would stop the need for anbox anyways
 @SomaSchicksal [Dalton, how similar Anbox to wine in our case?], To what end? There are so many cases where they differ, but the general idea of "run apps that shouldn't run on this platform" is the same.
 Wine lets you run Windows apps on Linux. Anbox lets you run Android apps on Linux. They are similar in the "lets you run x on Linux" way, but almost everything else is different.
 iirc, Wine operates by setting up a box (container) for a windows program to work, filling it with the basic requirements for it to operate
 I mean it is running, not emulating xD
 It's pretty hard to explain how it works, and it doesn't seem terribly relevant.
 It's easier to say "Anbox lets you run Android apps on your Linux desktop / Ubuntu Touch phone" and leave the comparison to Wine out of it.
 alright, thanks dood. pardon my noob inputs here and there.
 if anything I wanna know more :P
 @SomaSchicksal [if anything I wanna know more :P], Maybe something in here helps: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/axg3go/how_does_wine_work_and_how_is_it_not_always/
 @UniversalSuperBox [It's easier to say "Anbox lets you run Android apps on your Linux desktop / Ubun …], Kinda like wine
 I'm sorry, I had to!
 I would say the main difference between Wine and Anbox is that Wine is a reimplementation of Windows. Anbox basically takes Android image and runs it inside LXC container with some integration bits for host
 [Edit] I would say the main difference between Wine and Anbox is that Wine is a reimplementation of Windows APIs. Anbox basically takes Android image and runs it inside LXC container with some integration bits for host
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 https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5377/nexus-5-stuck-at-installing-update
 welp