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[03:10] <exodrifter> i have nvidia-driver-455 installed and when i boot up my computer, I have no display signal when xubuntu prompts me to decrypt the drive. Does anyone know how to troubleshoot that?
[03:11] <exodrifter> i get a display signal when nouveau is being used instead, but I want to use the proprietary nvidia drivers for steam/video games
[03:26] <ScienceMr> Exodrifter your hard drive is encrypted?    Good luck!
[03:27] <ScienceMr> Encrypting a hard drive is not a good idea.
[03:28] <ScienceMr> Data Recovery on an encrypted drive is almost impossible.
[03:28] <exodrifter> Well, no, I'm using the computer right now. I don't need data recovery.
[03:29] <exodrifter> There's just no display signal when the computer is suppsoed to show the decrpytion prompt when the proprietary nvidia drivers are installed. I can still enter the password in blind and get into the system
[03:29] <ScienceMr> Have you gone to Nvidia website for their drivers?
[03:30] <exodrifter> No, I installed them via the additional drivers app in xubuntu
[03:30] <ScienceMr> By   apt-get  ?
[03:31] <exodrifter> No, through the additional drivers tab in the software & updates GUI. I'm not sure if that uses apt or not
[03:31] <ScienceMr> Did you sudo apt-get update &  upgrade before and after?
[03:32] <exodrifter> no, I have not.
[03:32] <exodrifter> let me try that now
[03:32] <ScienceMr> That may be your problem.
[03:32] <ScienceMr> You may have to reboot.
[03:33] <exodrifter> well, i'd have to reboot anyway to test it :P
[03:34] <exodrifter> It didn't upgrade anything but i'll restart and check. be back in a bit.
[03:34] <ScienceMr> Always upgrade and update.
[03:36] <exodrifter> no dice, still no display signal at the decrpytion prompt
[03:37] <ScienceMr> Keep in mind you must upgrade and update all the time. Ubuntu  101 rule.
[03:37] <ubottu> Error: Ubuntu bug 101 could not be found
[03:37] <JackFrost> Heh.
[03:37] <ScienceMr> Copy the error message to Google and put the word Xubuntu before it.
[03:37] <exodrifter> yeah, i try to stay up to date.
[03:38] <exodrifter> what error message?
[03:38] <ScienceMr> Nvidia error.
[03:38] <exodrifter> i tried using google already, which is why i'm here. Is there a place where i can see nvidia errors? I'm never given an error prompt in the gui
[03:38] <ScienceMr> If you know anything about Google, you can talk to it and ask it questions.
[03:39] <exodrifter> Sorry, I don't really understand what you mean for me to do
[03:40] <ScienceMr> Also, you mentioned earlier you are using legacy hardware.
[03:40] <exodrifter> i am?
[03:40] <ScienceMr> Ubuntu keeps up with the latest technology. Perhaps your legacy hardware is not compatible with what you are trying to do.
[03:41] <exodrifter> I don't believe i am using legacy hardware.
[03:41] <exodrifter> OS: Ubuntu 20.10, KERNEL: 5.8.0-33-generic, CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K @ 4.20GHz, GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, GPU DRIVER: NVIDIA 455.38, RAM: 32 GB
[03:42] <ScienceMr> It is difficult to troubleshoot another's problem without physically being there.
[03:42] <exodrifter> Yeah, I understand.
[03:44] <ScienceMr> Think of it as putting a mazarati engine in a volkswagon. :)
[03:45] <exodrifter> er... sure?
[03:45] <ScienceMr> Putting a jet engine on a pair of roller skates.
[03:46] <exodrifter> i don't understand what you're trying to say.
[03:46] <ScienceMr> Whenever there is a problem there is always an incompatibility.
[03:47] <ScienceMr> Some situations have no workaround.
[03:48] <exodrifter> I mean, that's fine, I was just wondering if anyone had any guidance on what to do. I don't currently have any reason to believe it's a hardware issue since it works fine with nouveau but i have a hard time finding anything relevant on google for the problem i'm experiencing.
[03:49] <exodrifter> you mentioned nvidia errors earlier, is there someplace that nvidia driver stuff gets logged? I tried asking google that but i didn't really get anything relevant
[03:50] <ScienceMr> Have you also used:    http://www.duckduckgo.com     <----< It is a much better Search Engine.
[03:50] <exodrifter> that is indeed what i'm using.
[03:51] <ScienceMr> OK. Let me take a peek. Hold on please.
[03:51] <exodrifter> i perhaps am not aware of the right terms to search with
[03:52] <ScienceMr> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ulQYC_HP9s
[03:53] <ScienceMr> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Xubuntu+nvidia+driver+issues&t=h_&ia=web
[03:55] <ScienceMr> Use synonyms in your searches. E.g., issues instead of problems.
[03:59] <exodrifter> the first page of these results don't appear to be relevant... and that youtube link is for windows
[04:00] <exodrifter> anyway, i found out where the nvidia errors might be getting logged, so i'm looking into that now.
[04:01] <ScienceMr> I understand. Put  Xubuntu before the search. Windows will show up because of the software  WINE or VMWare.
[04:02] <ScienceMr> I run VBox with Ubuntu.
[04:02] <ScienceMr> Virtual Box.
[04:02] <ScienceMr> Sun Microsystems.
[06:00] <daregap> morning. Where does xubuntu 20.04 LTS store passwords? Is there a keyring daemon available? If so, which?
[06:09] <diogenes_> daregap, gnome-keyring.
[06:15] <daregap> and if I understand correctly, this daemon stores passwords per-user, yes? I.e. each user has its own database somewhere in their home folder. There is no global database.
[06:20] <daregap> yep, looks like that's the case: ~/.local/share/keyrings
[06:32] <diogenes_> daregap, seahorse is the gui.
[06:34] <daregap> yeah, thanks. Just found and installed it.
[16:49] <frutohumano> Hi, i'm new ubuntu user
[16:49] <frutohumano> I have 2 issue
[16:50] <frutohumano> long time to boot screens
[16:50] <frutohumano> and the logo xubuntu on boot screens don't showed when the boot start
[16:51] <frutohumano> someone get solve this ?
[17:12] <Fernando-Basso> frutohumano: “long time” means approximately how many seconds?
[17:18] <frutohumano> Fernando-Basso you are Brazilian ?
[17:49] <frutohumano> 2 minutes to boot and enter on desktop screen
[17:56] <Fernando-Basso> frutohumano: Yeah, I'm from Brazil. Is your computer hardware OK/fast and it is really just Xubuntu slowing things down?
[17:58] <frutohumano> Opa
[17:58] <frutohumano> blza Fernando
[17:58] <frutohumano> Falando em Portugês aqui
[17:58] <frutohumano> rsrsr
[17:59] <frutohumano> Sim minha máquina está rápida no windows 8.1
[17:59] <frutohumano> No linux mint cinamon o boot também é tão rápido quanto no windows 8.1
[17:59] <frutohumano> Mas no Xubuntu
[17:59] <frutohumano> O tempo de carregamento é Longo d+
[18:00] <frutohumano> e a logo do xubuntu não aparece enquanto o sistema carrega
[18:00] <frutohumano> fica uma tela preta
[18:00] <frutohumano> durante o boot
[18:00] <frutohumano> tentei usar o xubuntu 20.04 pra ver se é a versão
[18:00] <frutohumano> mas o erro é o mesmo
[18:01] <frutohumano> aliás "não erro" mas sim um comportamento durante o boot
[18:02] <frutohumano> Testei com o Ubuntu mate, e Ubuntu DDE e ZOrin OS e o carregamento também ocorreu normal com a logo de cada sistema enquanto faz o boot
[18:02] <frutohumano> só no xubuntu que não dá
[18:02] <frutohumano> Atualmente uso o Xubuntu 18.04
[18:02] <frutohumano> Se monstrou mais estável pra mim
[18:02] <frutohumano> e eu adoro o xubuntu
[18:02] <diogenes_> !br
[18:02] <ubottu> Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.
[18:03] <frutohumano> oh yes, thank ubotttu
[19:52] <mnemoc> hi, since displaycal was removed, how does one calibrate a monitor on 20.04?
[19:52] <mnemoc> got a i1Display3
[20:17] <n-iCe> hi guys how is the touchscreen support in xubuntu?
[20:21] <mnemoc> nevermind, installing an old .deb and dependecies sorted it
[22:48] <Keres> anyone know how to stop Firefox from blocking websites?
[22:48] <Keres> what other browser could i install in Xubuntu because this Firefox blocking stuff is driving me nuts
[22:52] <raccoon_dog> What kind of blocking do you mean? What sites does it block?
[22:52] <Keres> redditr
[22:52] <Keres> anything with the instructions to disable site blocking in firefox
[22:52] <JackFrost> Just use ublock?
[22:52] <raccoon_dog> It blocks reddit? o.O
[22:52] <Keres> it blocks ubuntuforums
[22:53] <JackFrost> Ah.
[22:53] <Keres> it blocks a load of technical articles from linux sites
[22:53] <raccoon_dog> What message does it show when it blocks those sites?
[22:53] <raccoon_dog> That doesn't sound like typical behavior.
[22:56] <Maik> hard to believe since FF work fine here
[22:56] <raccoon_dog> Right.
[22:56] <raccoon_dog> That is not typical.
[22:57] <Keres> i cant even get to a site to paste the warnings it is giving me
[22:57] <raccoon_dog> Well, can you screenshot it maybe?
[22:58] <Maik> Keres:  mind finally share some more info with us? we don't have a crystal ball
[22:58] <Maik> like which warnings?
[22:59] <Keres> https://pastebin.com/ARPrbkbm
[23:00] <Maik> reddit works fine here Keres
[23:00] <xtao> MITM proxy forcing the connection to HTTP rather than HTTPS?
[23:00] <Keres> https://pastebin.com/6XQRDN5W
[23:01] <Maik> any addons  installed on FF Keres?
[23:01] <Keres> i just installed Xubuntu
[23:01] <Keres> so, however it came it is
[23:01] <Maik> updated?
[23:01] <Keres> updated what>?
[23:01] <Maik> xubuntu
[23:02] <Maik> sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
[23:02] <Keres> its brand new
[23:02] <Keres> i just installed it
[23:03] <Maik> you need to UPDATE your system if you just installed it
[23:03] <raccoon_dog> ^
[23:03] <raccoon_dog> Run the command Maik gave you, Keres.
[23:04] <Maik> ;)
[23:04] <Keres> Calculating upgrade... Done
[23:04] <Keres> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:04] <Keres> i told you i just installed it
[23:04] <Keres> so its is up to date supposedly
[23:05] <raccoon_dog> Just installing it doesn't necessarily mean all the packages are the most recent ones; regardless, FF shouldn't be doing that.
[23:05] <raccoon_dog> How are you connecting to the Internet? Like, is it via some captive portal?
[23:05] <Keres> no
[23:05] <raccoon_dog> How?
[23:05] <Maik> Keres: which Xubuntu version?
[23:06] <Keres> its just a regular phone company internet connectio with a wireless router
[23:06] <Keres> chrome on xubuntu18. worked
[23:06] <Keres> i upgraded this box to 20.10
[23:11] <Keres> what other browser can i install?
[23:12] <Maik> chrome, chromium
[23:15] <Maik> Keres: try removing firefox and remove the mozilla folder in home and then reinstall firefox
[23:17] <Keres> just sudo apt-get remove firefox?
[23:18] <Maik> Keres: sudo apt remove firefox will do
[23:18] <Maik> apt-get isn't used anymore
[23:18] <raccoon_dog> Would "purge" be better here?
[23:18] <JackFrost> I mean it is, you can use either actually.  That one is specifically better for scripts.
[23:19] <JackFrost> Shouldn't have to re-install firefox at all, instead try creating a new profile and see if that helps.
[23:19] <Maik> Keres: still i find it hard to believe since you are the only one with these issues in FF. Do you have any add ons/extensions installed?
[23:20] <Keres> no, its stock how it came from the install
[23:20] <JackFrost> `firefox --ProfileManager` when firefox is closed and create a new profile.
[23:20] <Maik> impossible
[23:21] <raccoon_dog> Keres: When you upgraded to 20.10, did you upgrade from 18. whatever, or did you install 20.10 as a fresh install?
[23:21] <Keres> no, i nuked the disc
[23:21] <raccoon_dog> Yeah, then this makes no sense.
[23:21] <raccoon_dog> Very weird behavior.
[23:21] <Keres> besides, this was a mint machine
[23:22] <Keres> so it is possible that the firefox brand profile is missing or bad?
[23:24] <Maik> if you wiped the whole drive and did a clean install, i guess not
[23:24] <xtao> for what it's worth i'm using 20.10 installed from a clean install and firefox works fine. no issues
[23:25] <xtao> firefox 84.0 apparently