[00:11] <Keres> ok, now that i have totaly dissed the entire open source community... its my fault.
[00:12] <Keres> there IS site blocking on the router
[00:12] <xtao> hehe
[00:12] <Keres> it was put there years ago for the teachers kids
[00:12] <xtao> that HSTS error means the site has sent an HTTP header that states it *must* connect using https and for some reason it's being denied or redirected to http
[00:13] <xtao> so yeah. made some sense that something was man in the middle the connection
[00:13] <Keres> well the nice thing is that Falcon browser is nice -=)
[00:14] <raccoon_dog> Yeah -- see, this is why I asked before how you were connecting. But here's my question about that. You said other browsers were working?
[00:15] <xtao> yeah you said chrome worked. i would have thought chrome enforced HSTS headers too. so that seems weird
[00:15] <raccoon_dog> Right.
[00:16] <Keres> yeah, but this is not the only network that firefox blocks stuff on
[00:16] <Keres> happens at home as well
[00:16] <Keres> just not as bad as here
[00:16] <Keres> but that's an older 18.10 install
[00:23] <raccoon_dog> So, you only experience blocking on Firefox? At home or elsewhere? Never on Chromium-based browsers?
[00:25] <Keres> yeah once in a while firefox blocks some site, which is why i thought that was the problem again.
[00:25] <Keres> i mean, any linux user is going to have problems
[00:26] <Keres> like when a site tells you that it only uses firefox or chrome
[00:26] <Keres> and you have both,,, but nothing works
[00:26] <Keres> like the menu on turbotax.com
[00:26] <Keres> jsut doesnt show up
[00:27] <raccoon_dog> Yeah, that's unusual. I've used Firefox and Chromium-based browsers on Linux for years, and if a site is optimized for either of those kinds of browsers, it works.
[00:35] <oxek> there were cases of websites demanding a windows user agent string
[04:02] <ScienceMr> Some websites require the browser to accept a: Certificate in order to browse that site.
[04:03] <ScienceMr> In some cases Firefox gives you a choice to accept or decline or proceed at your own risk.
[04:04] <ScienceMr> Google also warns about known malicious websites.
[04:06] <ScienceMr> https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/08/22/googles-secretive-blacklists/
[04:06] <ScienceMr> https://uptime.com/blog/google-blacklist
[04:46] <Maik> ScienceMr: yeah true but it's weird Keres visits sites that are accessible to all of us without any issue. Like reddit and the ubuntu forums.
[04:47] <Maik> it just doesn't make any sense
[04:53] <raccoon_dog> Apparently it's a router thing, but I'm still perplexed.
[04:53] <raccoon_dog> Since other browsers don't block it, and those browsers work fundamentally the same way.
[05:15] <ScienceMr> It could be a firewall block due to possible DDOS Distributed Denial Of Service.
[05:15] <ScienceMr> https://us.norton.com/internetsecurity-emerging-threats-what-is-a-ddos-attack-30sectech-by-norton.html
[05:17] <ScienceMr> Your IP may block certain Ports. I know that Comcast changed the default email port to another due to SPAM.
[05:18] <ScienceMr> Most email accounts use a Web Browser rather than a SMTP Client.
[05:24] <Maik> nah... i bet they just fooled us... first they saud Xubuntu 18.10 then they said it was a Mint machine... we were just being trolled imho
[05:25] <Maik> saud/said
[05:27] <raccoon_dog> That's right. They did say it was both a Xubuntu 18.10 and then Mint.
[05:27] <raccoon_dog> I just scrolled up.
[05:28] <raccoon_dog> And then they said they "upgraded" from 18.10 to 20.10, and when pressed, said it was a "fresh install". So not really an upgrade in the traditional sense.
[05:28] <Maik> yep
[05:29] <raccoon_dog> If it was a troll, they were also doing it in the Firefox official channel.
[05:29]  * raccoon_dog sighs and shakes head.
[05:29] <Maik> also: <Keres> ok, now that i have totaly dissed the entire open source community... its my fault.
 there IS site blocking on the router
[05:30] <Maik> honestly... some of the Mint community love to troll, i've been around ther for a few months to know how things go down there
[05:32] <ScienceMr> It all depends upon the Router. Generic routers are limited. CISCO rack mounted routers are a different beast.
[05:32] <Maik> anyhoo.. i'm off to bed, 6:32 AM over here. Happy new year to all and i wish you all the best for this year.
[05:32] <ScienceMr> Ubuntu servers can be used as routers.
[05:33] <ScienceMr> IPTables  IPChains  look that up.
[05:33] <ScienceMr> Good night and sleep well.
[05:33] <ScienceMr> :)
[05:35] <raccoon_dog> Maik: See you.
[05:35] <raccoon_dog> Happy New Year.
[05:37] <Maik> o/ :)
[05:48] <ScienceMr> Racoon_dog are you running a Ubuntu Desktop or Server?
[06:16] <raccoon_dog> Desktop (Xubuntu 20.04.1 LTS to be specific.)
[06:36] <ScienceMr> I see. LTS is a good choice.
[06:40] <ScienceMr> I am using AMD64 Xubuntu version 4.4.0-197-generic  gcc veersion 5.4.0
[06:41] <ScienceMr> This is the Server_Desktop
[06:41] <ScienceMr> X11 can always be disabled if necessary.
[06:43] <ScienceMr> I have used Xubuntu Console Web Browser.