[00:01] <basenode> how can i get my workspaces from re-arranging themselves every time i plug in/out an external monitor?
[00:27] <TJ-> basenode: how do you mean? application windows changing relative locations?
[00:28] <basenode> TJ-: as in every time i plug in/out my monitor, my windows will rearrange. I want them to just stay as they have been on my primary display, and move/re-arrange only if i do it manually
[00:30] <TJ-> basenode: I operate with 3 monitors here, and 2 at home. The windows will retain their X,Y position BUT, for example, on my 3-monitor config I have a monitor to the left of my laptop then those windows will appear to move to the left. In reality they retain their X,Y but its origin 0,0 moved 1080 pixels to the left!
[00:31] <TJ-> basenode: if you only have monitors to the right of the permanent primary the windows should not move relatively. Same movement would happen with a monitor above the primary since the origin moves vertically to top-left of the external monitor
[00:32] <basenode> TJ-: ah so windows will move as left as possible? so if i move the "virtual" position of my external monitor right to that of my laptop, that should resolve the problem?
[00:33] <TJ-> basenode: it should do, yes. I just drag the windows to where I want them though.
[00:34] <basenode> TJ-: awesome, i'll try that next time, thank you
[00:34] <TJ-> basenode: Like, right now I have a left-rotated (portrait mode) 1080x2560 to the left, 1920x1080 laptop with a 3840x2160 above so the origin moves left and up quite a lot :)
[00:35] <TJ-> basenode: when I unplug so only laptop 1920x1080 is operating most of the windows go 'off-screen' so I have to select them on the taskbar, right-click for the context menu, choose Move, and then bring them back into view
[00:36] <TJ-> basenode: I could write a script to do it of course :)
[01:10] <blahboybaz> How come I show more than one of the same device? $ rfkill list       shows the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yfZ8zz6G5n/
[01:11] <blahboybaz> I'm on (what I believe to be) a stock / box store toshiba satellite laptop that I bought used on craigslist. I don't think it has 2 wifi cards or 2 bluetooth whatevers
[01:16] <TJ-> blahboybaz: usually due to platform-specific 'helpers'
[01:17] <blahboybaz> TJ-: oh ok thanks
[01:17] <TJ-> blahboybaz: looks like you've got a Broadcom wifi chipset (brcmwl-0) and the drivers for those often do non-standard stuff. I'd suspect that is the same device as phy0
[01:18] <blahboybaz> TJ-: That phy0 is a driver?
[01:18] <TJ-> blahboybaz: likewise for hci0 and "Toshiba Bluetooth" - I'm guessing a platform-helper driver has loaded that exposed that
[01:18] <blahboybaz> How do I differentiate hardware from software?
[01:19] <blahboybaz> I'm just trying to make my wireless headphones work (all day)
[01:19] <TJ-> blahboybaz: you might be able to figure out the relationships via sysfs; e.g. "ls -l /sys/class/net/" and "ls -l /sys/class/bluetooth/"
[01:19] <TJ-> blahboybaz: does any bluetooth work?
[01:19] <cbreak> do they work with some other source? Like a phone?
[01:19] <TJ-> blahboybaz: e.g. a BT mouse?
[01:20] <cbreak> do they work if you boot an other OS, like a windows, with your same hardware?
[01:20] <blahboybaz> TJ-: Don't know they are my only bluetooth device. cbreak yes works with phone
[01:20] <blahboybaz> The headphones are about 2 - 3 yrs old hesh2wireless
[01:20] <TJ-> blahboybaz: use the command-line tool to investigate more. "bluetoothctl" and then "help" to get an idea of the commands
[01:21]  * cbreak likes wired headphones, work with much less issues :P
[01:21] <blahboybaz> I don't have another os
[01:21] <blahboybaz> TJ-: Cool I'll check that out
[01:21] <TJ-> blahboybaz: once in bluetoothctl check the host controller is active with "list" and "show"
[01:22] <blahboybaz> oh ok
[01:22] <blahboybaz> $ bluetoothctl help
[01:22] <blahboybaz> [NEW] Controller 28:C2:DD:03:CD:27 newcreation [default]
[01:22] <blahboybaz> Agent registered
[01:22] <TJ-> blahboybaz: assuming those look same (e.g. see mine at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HJyqjs5xQ5/ )
[01:22] <cbreak> since you have a bluetooth capable phone, you might be able to pair the phone with your computer, for testing
[01:23] <TJ-> blahboybaz: OK, now do "discoverable on" then "scan on" then put your BT headphones into pairing mode and see if they get found. You'll first see just the MAC address then, if you're lucky, their name will eventually be resolved
[01:24] <TJ-> blahboybaz: also, might be worth checking in case they've already been 'seen' so use "devices"
[01:24] <TJ-> blahboybaz: if this shows hope I'll teach you how to pair from bluetoothctl
[01:24] <blahboybaz> I see: https://pastebin.com/k09xnxBW
[01:25] <TJ-> blahboybaz: note that in bluetoothctl you have to use device MAC addresses in commands, and they do tab-complete so you only need to type enough to be unique and then TAB
[01:25] <TJ-> blahboybaz: controller looks good :)
[01:25] <blahboybaz> TJ-: So I have to get the device mac of my headphones in order to use it in some command?
[01:26] <TJ-> blahboybaz: no, it'll be discovered when the device is in pairing mode AND the controller is scanning
[01:26] <TJ-> blahboybaz: "scan on" and device in pairing mode and you should see it reported
[01:27] <blahboybaz> my hadphones say "pairing" audibly after powring on
[01:27] <TJ-> blahboybaz: good
[01:27] <TJ-> blahboybaz: is it currently listed by "devices" ?
[01:27] <blahboybaz> do "list" ?
[01:27] <TJ-> blahboybaz: "devices"
[01:28] <TJ-> blahboybaz: if already there its often useful to "remove <MAC-address>" and start from a fresh scan
[01:28] <blahboybaz> just gives me another line in its shell
[01:28] <TJ-> blahboybaz: OK so no devices currently known
[01:28] <blahboybaz> but ...
[01:29] <TJ-> blahboybaz: so now we want to know if with "scan on" and device in pairing mode, if the device is reported. If not then we need to investigate the Linux kernel messages for clues
[01:29] <blahboybaz> but my headphones always would say "pairing" after turning them on (even without doning any of this - they just don't actually work. Also, iirc, when they do work they have another (second) thing that they say but I don't recall what that is
[01:30] <blahboybaz> TJ-: so do remove <MAC-address> && scan on
[01:30] <blahboybaz> ??
[01:30] <blahboybaz> Then devices ?
[01:31] <Annoyed> Greetings. Ubuntu 18.04, set up with 2 6 TB drives in a raid mirror setup. (not the boot drive) Plan on reworking that machine. If I just recreate the raid array on the new version of Ubuntu, will it see everything on that raid array? Or will I have to futz with it?
[01:31] <TJ-> blahboybaz: can't do 'remove <MAC>' unless 'devices' reported a known device
[01:32] <TJ-> blahboybaz: here's me scanning and discovering a PLT_Legend https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8ZgwFNyK5b/
[01:33] <TJ-> blahboybaz: here's me doing a complete pairing operation for that device: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/d4CY4Y9rcX/
[01:33] <blahboybaz> TJ-: It looks like that mac is actually my ethernet ? $ ifconfig shows the same mac address as "ether"
[01:33] <blahboybaz> I'll look at that
[01:35] <blahboybaz> TJ-: Why does what is said in the square brackets change?
[01:35] <TJ-> blahboybaz: the MAC address in bluetooth of the headset should not show up as a network device !
[01:36] <TJ-> blahboybaz: in my case I have "BT 5.0 Mouse" connected so it appears in the command prompt
[01:36] <blahboybaz> TJ-: I don't know what the mac address of the headphones is (whether that one is the headphones or something else)
[01:36] <TJ-> notice command prompts end with a #
[01:36] <blahboybaz> yes
[01:36] <TJ-> blahboybaz: you don't need to know the MAC of the headphones; scanning/discovering will show that
[01:36] <blahboybaz> let me look at your paste again
[01:37] <TJ-> blahboybaz: [CHG] is simply a CHANGE event being reported
[01:37] <TJ-> blahboybaz: when the device is discovered you see a line like "[NEW] Device F4:B6:88:0C:E2:2A PLT_Legend" and from that you have the MAC
[01:38] <TJ-> blahboybaz: sometimes only the MAC is reported intially (BT protocol has to ask the device for its 'friendly name' separately)
[01:39] <TJ-> blahboybaz: if you've not seeing any devices being discovered I suspect there's an issue with the host's bluetooth controller config; possibly missing firmware which we would need to invesigate
[01:40] <ExcessiveAggro> Evening all
[01:41] <blahboybaz> TJ-: So when I turn on my headphones they tell me "pairing"  BEFORE I can enter any command in bluetoothctl.  Nevertheless, I did this (and what I get from it): https://pastebin.com/Ch3qCAQS
[01:42] <ExcessiveAggro> curious... what does everyone use for IRC clients these days?
[01:43] <TJ-> blahboybaz: OK, so the problem seems to be the PC isn't seeing the device. So we ask 2 questions: 1) is there a kernel driver/firmware blob issue (likely due to the "Toshiba Bluetooth" hint) or 2) the bluetooth antenna is disconnected/missing
[01:43] <TJ-> blahboybaz: easiest to check is (1) by reading the kernel log. Show us "pastebinit <( journalctl -k) "
[01:44] <blahboybaz> TJ-: Ok, ...  I did find this article earlier:  Do you think its telling the right thing to do or is that a hack?  https://freedompenguin.com/ubuntu-bluetooth-headphones-fix/
[01:45] <blahboybaz> ^ he's changing config files
[01:47] <TJ-> blahboybaz: that's totally irrelevant - your issue is not discovering any devices
[01:47] <blahboybaz> oh
[01:47] <blahboybaz> ok
[01:47] <TJ-> blahboybaz: that is about upgrading the audio codecs being used for hi quality sound
[01:47] <blahboybaz> oh
[01:48] <TJ-> blahboybaz: show us the kernel log as requested above
[01:48] <blahboybaz> let me scroll up
[01:49] <blahboybaz> one moment
[01:49] <TJ-> blahboybaz: "pastebinit <( journalctl -k) "
[01:50] <blahboybaz> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/p6sRjG7CCd/
[01:51] <blahboybaz> now I'm gonna get hacked  :p
[01:52] <TJ-> blahboybaz: line 973 indicates where the "Toshiba Bluetooth" originates: "kernel: toshiba_acpi: Supported laptop features: hotkeys touchpad special-function-keys panel-power-on cooling-method"
[01:52] <blahboybaz> ok
[01:53] <blahboybaz> what does that mean?
[01:53] <TJ-> blahboybaz: line 1001 onwards may indicate your issue: "kernel: bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware load for brcm/BCM43142A0-0930-0225.hcd failed with error -2"
[01:53] <blahboybaz> oh
[01:53] <TJ-> blahboybaz: however, sometimes we see those reports because the driver looks for a list of firmware files and it may in fact load a later item in its list but doesn't tell us!
[01:54] <blahboybaz> I see
[01:54] <blahboybaz> should I google: "kernel: bluetooth hci0: Direct firmware load for brcm/BCM43142A0-0930-0225.hcd failed with error -2"  ?
[01:54] <blahboybaz> Yah, that doesn't help (googling that)
[01:55] <TJ-> blahboybaz: interesting; "apt-file search BCM43142A0-0930-0225.hcd" does not find that file in the Ubuntu archives. What release of Ubuntu are you using? "cat /etc/os-release"
[01:55] <blahboybaz> TJ-: It's 18.04
[01:55] <blahboybaz> bionic beaver?
[01:56] <TJ-> blahboybaz: ah, so relatively older. OK. Give me a few minutes to research that firmware
[01:56] <blahboybaz> PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 18.04.5 LTS"
[01:56] <blahboybaz> ok
[01:56] <blahboybaz> ty
[02:00] <TJ-> blahboybaz: ok we have a fix
[02:01] <blahboybaz> cool
[02:01] <TJ-> blahboybaz: so the following: "pushd ~/Downloads; wget https://github.com/winterheart/broadcom-bt-firmware/releases/download/v12.0.1.1105_p3/broadcom-bt-firmware-10.1.0.1115.deb; sudo dpkg -i broadcom-bt-firmware-10.1.0.1115.deb"
[02:01] <vimart> out off topic perhaps but perhaps could you recommend where to do a shell account for IRC?
[02:02] <TJ-> blahboybaz: assuming no errors reported we then need to reload the kernel driver, so I'll need more info on what is being used
[02:02] <blahboybaz> ok one moment (( was reading what you said before ) let me try that
[02:04] <TJ-> blahboybaz: these command are fetching a Debian package containing the Broadcom firmware files and installing them
[02:04] <TJ-> blahboybaz: from the github repository at https://github.com/winterheart/broadcom-bt-firmware
[02:05] <vimart> out off topic perhaps but perhaps could you recommend where to do a shell account for IRC with weechat?
[02:05] <blahboybaz> TJ-: I think it went ok (see  pm)
[02:05] <TJ-> blahboybaz: my client doesn't allow PMs
[02:06] <blahboybaz> seemed to me that may be sensitive
[02:06] <blahboybaz> oh
[02:06] <TJ-> blahboybaz: but assuming that is installed now lets discover which driver to reload to get you up and working
[02:06] <blahboybaz> well it looked like it did it
[02:06] <blahboybaz> cool
[02:06] <TJ-> blahboybaz: "pastebinit <( lsmod | grep bt )"
[02:06] <TJ-> blahboybaz: this is listing loaded kernel modules with 'bt' in their name
[02:07] <blahboybaz> one moment I'll get that
[02:08] <blahboybaz> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3WjyGgwh4B/
[02:09] <TJ-> blahboybaz: thanks; so we need to unload a few modules then reload and check the kernel log to see if the firmware got loaded
[02:09] <blahboybaz> ok
[02:10] <TJ-> blahboybaz: "sudo modprobe -r btusb" then do "lsmod | grep bt" once again and just tell me if "btbcm" is still listed; if it is then do "sudo modprobe -r btbcm"
[02:11] <blahboybaz> TJ-: $ sudo modprobe -r btusb" then do "lsmod | grep bt
[02:11] <blahboybaz> modprobe: FATAL: Module btusb then do lsmod not found.
[02:11] <blahboybaz> sorry I messed up
[02:11] <blahboybaz> let me try again
[02:11] <TJ-> blahboybaz: hehehe
[02:13] <blahboybaz> TJ-: Nothing is liste (new command line given)
[02:13] <blahboybaz> no output
[02:14] <TJ-> blahboybaz: good; we might be about to fix it then, with "sudo modprobe btusb" then show me lasted kernel log messages with "pastebinit <( journalctl -k -n 100)"
[02:14] <blahboybaz> awesome
[02:14] <blahboybaz> ok
[02:15] <blahboybaz> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rwfrFCDrCY/
[02:16] <TJ-> blahboybaz: no report of missing firmware :)
[02:16] <blahboybaz> nice
[02:16] <blahboybaz> so we can try to connect them again?
[02:16] <TJ-> blahboybaz: now lets go back to "bluetoothctl" and do "scan on" then "pairable on" "default-agent" and set your headset to pairing again and hope it shows up
[02:17] <blahboybaz> TJ-: Do I power the headphones on first or after the commands?
[02:18] <TJ-> blahboybaz: shouldn't matter - pairing/discovery lasts for quite a while
[02:18] <blahboybaz> ok
[02:19] <blahboybaz> It picked up the television and my headphones
[02:19] <TJ-> blahboybaz: we're now hoping to see the device show up with a [NEW] message
[02:19] <TJ-> blahboybaz: YAY!
[02:19] <blahboybaz> and something else too now
[02:19] <blahboybaz> idk what
[02:19] <TJ-> blahboybaz: so you see its MAC address? then do "pair <MAC>"
[02:19] <blahboybaz> let me look
[02:19] <TJ-> blahboybaz: recall TAB-complete works on MAC addresses
[02:20] <blahboybaz> let me try see if they are working --it looks good
[02:21] <TJ-> blahboybaz: also do "trust <MAC>" so they'll auto reconnect
[02:21] <blahboybaz> TJ-: Well maybe I should show you the output (they aren't actually working when I play a youtube video but he output made me think they would
[02:23] <blahboybaz> TJ-: https://pastebin.com/8a47W1SS
[02:23] <blahboybaz> It looks like they connected then disconnected
[02:24] <TJ-> blahboybaz: OK, now you should be able to use the GUI bluetooth applet to control them. Did you "trust D0:8A:22:AC:D5:8A" ?
[02:24] <blahboybaz> TJ-: they are working
[02:24] <TJ-> blahboybaz: using either bluetoothctl ("connect D0:8A:22:AC:D5:8A") or the GUI you should now be able to connect the headset
[02:25] <TJ-> blahboybaz: fab :)
[02:25] <blahboybaz> I did the trust <mac> then powered of then on then they connected and stayed connected I'm listening through them now
[02:25] <TJ-> blahboybaz: a great success
[02:25] <blahboybaz> yay!!
[02:25] <blahboybaz> ty so so much
[02:25] <blahboybaz> I have a room mate who will appreciate it too
[02:26] <TJ-> blahboybaz: Broadcom deviecs cause a lot of this kind of problem, especially on the Wifi side
[02:57] <dman777> hello
[02:58] <dman777> for the server live iso.... is there is a error at the end of the installation and the installer resets. Is there a way I can grab that log before it resets or after if resets?
[03:10] <ExcessiveAggro> Hi all - Trying to make sure my raid array is alerting me via email and this guide I'm using says to put the command in to /etc/rc.local to make sure it runs at boot time.  Ubuntu doesnt appear to use that, is there a diferent location I should put this command?
[03:31] <skyliner_369> what's a good IDE for all variants of C and possibly Vulkan too?
[03:36] <TJ-> ExcessiveAggro: mdadm can be configured to do that itself via mdadm.conf when configured to use --monitor mode
[03:36] <ExcessiveAggro> I was using this guide - https://ioflood.com/blog/2015/04/21/setting-up-software-raid-mdadm-status-alert-emails-for-failed-drives-in-centos-ubuntu-and-debian/
[03:36] <ExcessiveAggro> he claims you have to add that --monitor command to some startup area or it wont start again after reboot
[03:44] <TJ-> ExcessiveAggro: mdadm comes with the monitor services ; mdmonitor.service - so just needs configuration, see /etc/default/mdadm where AUTOSCAN=true; services are controlled via systemd units now and you can list all those available with "dpkg -L mdadm | grep systemd" -- note those timers. You could alter "mdmonitor-oneshot.timer" which triggers "mdmonitor-oneshot.service"
[03:46] <TJ-> ExcessiveAggro: currently its set to daily; so assuming you have /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf configured for email with a program set to be executed you should be sorted (I recall that recently mdadm's dependency on an email sending agent was removed so you may need to investigate that aspect)
[03:46] <ExcessiveAggro> ok that's great news
[03:46] <ExcessiveAggro> Then I might be done already lol
[03:47] <ExcessiveAggro> I did configure /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
[03:48] <TJ-> ExcessiveAggro: and I recommend you read the recent changelog carefully because it does provide some info " less /usr/share/doc/mdadm/changelog.Debian.gz "
[03:48] <ExcessiveAggro> I've done some echos from the command line and messages are going out in that respect.  And I did a mdadm --test and a message also went out.  If the daily checks are running than I could be good to go
[03:48] <ExcessiveAggro> I will check that out also - thanks so much
[03:50] <ExcessiveAggro> Dann Frazier appears to be the man - hes all over this changelog
[04:08] <ExcessiveAggro> TJ: Thanks again for your help.  I just did a --fail on one of my disks so I will wait and see if it alerts me :)  do you know where i can find more detail on the options available in the [timer]
[04:14] <ExcessiveAggro> TJ: I think I found information on how to modify the TIMER... any idea on how i can resetart the mdadm monitor to reload the timer?
[04:18] <TJ-> ExcessiveAggro: you don't need to
[04:18] <ExcessiveAggro> I changed it from daily to minutely - just to see if it would detect the failed disk
[04:19] <ExcessiveAggro> but it didnt appear to accept the change.  So I did a sudo systemctl restart mdmonitor.service and it emailed me
[04:20] <ExcessiveAggro> So I think I'm all good.  Thanks again for your help.  I hope I can be as much help to others eventually
[04:20] <TJ-> ExcessiveAggro: for changing the timer just create a drop-in, which can be done automatically with "sudo systemctl edit mdmonitor-oneshot.timer" and entering just the stanza heading and command you want, e.g: "[Timer]" "Calendar=..." <-- your setting
[04:20] <ExcessiveAggro> oh the drop-in : I will have to read up on that.  Still new here
[04:21] <TJ-> ExcessiveAggro: those drop-ins get put in /etc/systemd/system/<service-name>.d/
[04:21] <TJ-> ExcessiveAggro: so they add-to, or override existing, options in the package shipped unit files
[04:22] <ExcessiveAggro> got it - I need to go read a bit on systemd.
[04:22] <TJ-> ExcessiveAggro: it's very elegant and predictable compared to the old shell-script based sysv init methods
[04:22] <ExcessiveAggro> Any issues with the restart method I did?  Making sure I didnt break anything
[05:18] <Bugg3d> Ubuntu ...
[05:19] <matsaman> Ubuuuuunnnttuuuu ...
[05:19] <Enitin> utnubU
[06:09] <Bugg3d> +t
[07:04] <skyliner_369> who knows the ACTUAL name for the theme simply named "dark" in the settings?
[07:05] <skyliner_369> I believe it has a name and I want to import the color theme to a thing but I have no idea what it's even called
[07:06] <tomreyn> skyliner_369: what have you done so far in an attempt to find out?
[07:08] <skyliner_369> failed at basic googling, forgot where I even found the name before, and came here
[07:09] <tomreyn> sound slike a good start. are you into apt and dpkg commands, yet?
[07:10] <tomreyn> those are for managing and quering package information. and this theme must be packaged somehoe, i guess we can agree on?
[07:10] <skyliner_369> I do plenty of that. I was actually looking to import the theme to KDevelop so it stops frying my eyeballs.
[07:11] <skyliner_369> it seems to be called yaru-dark
[07:11] <skyliner_369> yeah. I found it. tweaks.
[07:12] <tomreyn> nice
[07:15] <skyliner_369> I much prefer dark themes. they're much, much more pleasant to look at. A white sheet of paper is fine because it's never brighter than the surrounding environment. a white screen on the other hand...
[07:25]  * CaptainSnowball says hello to everyone
[09:23] <Lucas2021> Hi everyone
[09:24] <Lucas2021> I have a problem installing one programm, I think it could be a video driver. Can anyone help me ?
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> Lucas2021: whats the issue please
[09:34] <Lucas2021> lotuspsychje: Hi. I'm trying to install a software and this message appears in the terminal: "DefaultRenderingErrorListener.errorOccurred: CONTEXT_CREATION_ERROR: Renderer: Error creating Canvas3D graphics context for queryProperties() IDV"
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> Lucas2021: whats the packagename you trying to install on wich ubuntu version please?
[09:39] <Lucas2021> lotuspsychje: Ubuntu version is 20.04.1 LTS and I don't know how to find the Linux update for my graphic card, the graphic card is Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics 630 (CML GT2). I tried updating Mesa but the issue is still here, on the Intel website I can't find anything helpful
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> Lucas2021: thank you, can you pastebin the whole output in a pastebin after; sudo apt install your-package-here?
[09:41] <Lucas2021> lotuspsychje: thank you. I'm a beginner on Ubuntu, what is a pastebin?
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> Lucas2021: its a website that can hold your paste info and share the link in this channel, so volunteers can help you better, understanding what your issue is about
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> !paste | Lucas2021
[09:54] <sdk__> How long has been since all of the members in this IRS has been using Ubuntu, want to hear the side of the story ?
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | sdk__
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[09:58] <Lucas2021> Hi everyone. I have an issue with a software  called IDV. The installation is ok but, when I try to launch the software, the terminal return an error:
[09:58] <Lucas2021> "3D [dev] 1.6.0-pre12-daily-experimental daily
[09:58] <oerheks> don't copy like that, the freenode server goes bonkers.
[09:58] <oerheks> see the paste factoid, thanks
[09:59] <Lucas2021> For what I found on internet, it seems that a video card driver update is needed but I can't figure out how to do that.
[09:59] <Lucas2021> The video card is Mesa Intel® UHD Graphics 630 (CML GT2) .
[09:59] <Lucas2021> If you need other informations just ask me.
[09:59] <Lucas2021> I hope you help me find a solution. thanks a lot.
[09:59] <Lucas2021> Thanks. This is the Url for my paste https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bkDxDXVbGr/
[09:59] <Lucas2021>  Thanks. This is the Url for my paste https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bkDxDXVbGr/
[09:59] <oerheks> no bots, thanks
[10:11] <Lucas2021> hi
[10:11] <Lucas2021> I have the Url for my issue  : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bkDxDXVbGr/
[10:19] <oerheks> what is IDV exactly? url?
[10:20] <Lucas2021> IDV is a geoscience software
[10:21] <lotuspsychje> Lucas2021: On Linux or Unix environments, users start the IDV with the runIDV command from the installation directory, did you do that?
[10:23] <tomreyn> maybe you shouldn't try just version "1.6.0-pre12-daily-experimental daily" but also the latest stable release
[10:24] <Lucas2021> Yes and when I do that, then come out the error in the url above.
[10:25] <tomreyn> maybe try a different openjdk/openjre version
[10:26] <Lucas2021> tomreyn: thanks
[11:29] <EugenA> I'm running ubuntu 20.04 (arm), created new user, its desktop looks kind of different than default one
[11:30] <EugenA> default user has mate desktop with simple drop-down app menu..
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> !arm | EugenA see also
[11:51] <Lucas2021> tomreyn: unfortunately don't work
[12:13] <fwef64> Hi, I'm running the latest LTS (20.04) and I'd like to upgrade a package called bolt. The version on 20.04 is 0.8-4 and on 20.10 it's 0.8-1. Is there any way I could use just that single package from 20.10 without upgrading the whole system?
[12:14] <fwef64> Sorry, on 20.10 it's 0.9-1, not 0.8-1.
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> !info bolt
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> fwef64: see !backports or !pinning
[12:15] <fwef64> !backports
[12:15] <fwef64> !pinning
[12:16] <fwef64> lotuspsychje: thanks!
[12:44] <geosmile> Any ideas on how to remove this file --> rm "'--exclude=input_dir'"
[12:44] <geosmile> rm: cannot remove ''\''--exclude=input_dir'\''': No such file or directory
[12:46] <oerheks> what is the exact command used?
[12:50] <okamis> So I connected a soon failing hdd and I got a notification that I should backup it asap. Is there a way to get that warning on a headless system?
[12:52] <kubast2> is there no man page for pidfd_getfd in a 5.8.0 kernel man-pages tree?
[12:52] <kubast2> Just asking I couldn't find popos irc channel seems like their 20.04 lts lacks pidfd_getfd manpage
[12:52] <kubast2> was it just not part of a 5.8.0 man-pages tree?
[12:53] <kubast2> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Pop!_OS 20.04 LTS"
[12:53] <kubast2> wait right
[12:53] <oerheks> okamis, smartmontools, like this;https://blog.technicalfever.com/2018/01/11/Setup-SMART-on-ubuntu-server/  and span a notification when you log in with ssh
[12:54] <oerheks> kubast2, no pop-os support here, but you have been told that before.
[12:54] <geosmile> oerheks, i typed the exact command
[12:54] <kubast2> Really, I haven't used popos much before
[12:54] <kubast2> hmm
[12:54] <geosmile> '--exclude=input_dir' ---> ls shows me this filename
[12:54] <Deano59> Lies.
[12:55] <kubast2> yeah I don't think I have asked for anything before, well on freenode you can use someone else's nickname and login as the other anyway so
[12:55] <oerheks>  rm "'--exclude=input_dir'" has too many quotations? >  rm "--exclude=input_dir"
[12:55] <kubast2> I doubt anyone would want to use it though well cya I will just see the name of the man page files and install the according package
[12:55] <kubast2> bye
[12:58] <geosmile> oerheks, rm ./'--exclude=input_dir' -- this did the trick
[14:36] <alnr> how to change gnome-shell css (eg top panel font). instructions i've seen say it should be in /usr/share/themes/<chosen-theme>/gnome-shell/gnome-shell.css, but none of the thems seem to have a a gnome-shell folder
[14:40] <oerheks> alnr, i think you want ubuntu.css https://askubuntu.com/questions/1175074/difference-between-gnome-shell-css-and-ubuntu-css-and-what-are-they-for
[14:42] <alnr> i had tried to change the default one to no avail. i have some theme adwaita-dark. now i'm reading, that i have to create the gnome-shell folder and within that, the gnome-shell.css
[14:48] <ktosiek> I'm getting a very long "kernel" boot time from systemd-analyze: Startup finished in 17.684s (firmware) + 3.523s (loader) + 49.802s (kernel) + 1min 51.608s (userspace) = 3min 2.619s - how should I go about debugging that?
[14:51] <tomreyn> ktosiek: systemd-analyze blame
[14:51] <tomreyn> also critical-chain
[14:52] <ktosiek> tomreyn: thanks, but I think that only shows userspace, and it's the "49s (kernel)" I'm worried about
[14:52] <tomreyn> you're right, that's both userspace only.
[14:53] <tomreyn> i'm not actually sure what exactly to do about the kernel
[14:53] <tomreyn> but you can take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelDebuggingTricks
[14:54] <tomreyn> also perf may help
[14:56] <tomreyn> the really unusually long time in your list is userspace, though
[14:57] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:59] <ktosiek> it is long, but "graphical.target" finishes at ~8s (with gdm < ~3s), so I'm not really concerned - I think things like TeamViewer and virtualisation networking (Docker, libvirt) take long time to start. graphical.target is done at ~8s
[15:00] <oerheks> such info would be helpfull indeed, blame teamviewer
[15:00] <ktosiek> can't really blame TV for the long kernel time, though :-)
[15:01] <oerheks> encrypted install?
[15:02] <ktosiek> yes, but wouldn't the time I took to enter password count against some userspace service?
[15:03] <ktosiek> or is the "kernel time" everything from starting the kernel to starting systemd?
[15:03] <oerheks> that might save 10 sec?
[15:05] <ktosiek> I've got to reboot anyway, let's see if it's better if I type the password on time
[15:05] <tomreyn> "kernel time" would start after (boot) loader / grub and last until starting systemd, i would think. if you have FDE on / and enter the passphrase during early boot this should could against initrd, so 'kernel'
[15:06] <tomreyn> performance issue exists between keyboard and chair, i'd say. ;-)
[15:07] <oerheks> disable teamviewer service, i'd say.
[15:08] <ktosiek> thank you! It does seem the "kernel time" is mostly me typing in the password ^_^
[15:11] <tomreyn> better run some benchmarks on this user, maybe they are showing wear-out effects and need to be replaced.
[15:11] <ktosiek> the teamviewer service doesn't seem to add much to the critical path, I'm more worried about 5s of NetworkManager-wait-online.service (and why is it needed on a desktop, with local authentication and home directories)
[15:21] <ktosiek> disabled that, now waiting for plymouth is taking 3s. Well, I've got 2s better, that's still something :-D
[15:33] <fbiaaa> hello! I mapped caps lock to ctrl/escape using xcape and put the mapping commands to .profile file the thing is I have to manaully source the profile file - otherwise those commands aren't working. Where should I put them instead?
[16:04] <grosboulet> Hello, I need help to configure ufw.
[16:05] <okamis> Hi, Im misunderstanding lvm, I got an ext hdd, using it as physical volume, does it mean its locked to that host forever? That I cannot mount it to another host?
[16:06] <grosboulet> I want to allow sh (22) from my home and my parents, for world, I want to hide ssh (22) but redirect 2222 to ssh ?
[16:07] <grosboulet> okamis: in another host with lvm, you can mount your hdd :)
[16:08] <oerheks> sud ufw allow ssh
[16:08] <oerheks> its a short-name
[16:08] <oerheks> oh, missed the 2nd part, you want to bridge 2222 to 22 internally?
[16:09] <grosboulet> oerheks: yes!
[16:10] <grosboulet> oerheks: I did ufw allow from myHome to any port ssh and ufw allow 2222/tcp... I add rule in before.rules for nat...
[16:11] <ikonia> allow ia not forwarding
[16:11] <oerheks> some example, in the 1st answer
[16:11] <oerheks> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1148856/facing-problem-in-forwarding-traffic-on-port-2222-to-docker-172-17-0-2-22
[16:12] <ikonia> why do you actually want to forward the traffic between ports
[16:12] <ikonia> what is the problem you are trying to solve
[16:12] <oerheks> hide 22 to the world?
[16:13] <grosboulet> oerheks: If I try to connect to port 2222 from another server (so not my home or parents' home), I can not connect (time out) but if I do ufw allow OpenSSH I can from everywhere connect to 2222 and 22...
[16:13] <ikonia> why though ?
[16:13] <oerheks> one can easier run ssh on 22222 than changing ports
[16:13] <ikonia> but why
[16:13] <ikonia> what's the actual problem - rather than the soution
[16:14] <okamis> ikonia because a lot of bots spamming port 22. Remember myself getting hacked once
[16:14] <ikonia> they will port knock 22222 too
[16:14] <ikonia> changing ports won't do anything
[16:14] <ikonia> hence why I'm asking what is the 'problem'
[16:15] <okamis> I agree that the second port grosboulet chose is not optimal. Anyway I will let grosboulet answer what hes trying to solve
[16:17] <grosboulet> ikonia: at work, I can not connect to port 22 but my company allow 2222... So at work, I want to connect to port 2222 and at home whith 22... After opening 2222 to world, I want to set portknock to hide 2222 :)
[16:17] <ikonia> grosboulet: why not just set ssh to listen on 2 ports
[16:17] <ikonia> or run two instances
[16:18] <ikonia> that way you can shutdown / startup
[16:18] <grosboulet> the 2222 port is an example, my company allow another port :)
[16:18] <ikonia> yeah, I get that, but it doesn't change the answer
[16:18] <ikonia> I also suspect trying to bypass your works network rules will not end well for you
[16:18] <okamis> lvm question: so I remove my ext-hdd but I still see /dev/ext-hdd/lv1  how do I update that to reflect reality?
[16:19] <ikonia> okamis: remove the volume
[16:19] <ikonia> or set it to active no
[16:19] <ikonia> putting an external harddisk under lvm control is not a good idea
[16:19] <okamis> so its better to just have 2 partitions and run ext4 on them directly?
[16:20] <ikonia> okamis: if its an external usb style disk - I would say yes
[16:21] <okamis> yeah, it sort of is and isnt, but is, I had a feeling. Alright thank you for the guidance.
[16:21] <grosboulet> ikonia: 2 process for same service ? My company allow my to use ssh, but only for 2222 port :)
[16:22] <ikonia> grosboulet: carry on then
[16:26] <grosboulet> ikonia: I does not know that sshd can listen on multiple port. Thanks for your help
[16:26] <oerheks> edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and set port to what you want
[16:27] <grosboulet> done, it works!
[16:27] <grosboulet> now, I have to read doc for ufw and podman :)
[16:50] <ypiel> Hello, I would like to upgrade a laptop that is 19.10 to last LST. But it seems that 19.10 is no more supported at all. How can I update ? thanks
[16:50] <coXZist> anyone having issues switching ttys in UB20.04 or is it just me ?   -_-
[16:52] <oerheks> !eolupgrade | ypiel
[16:53] <oerheks> you must not have touched that machine in 6 months
[16:54] <coXZist> oerheks: like an ugly girlfriend....lol
[17:07] <knstn> Hello. Has anyone ever decreased m from its default 5% to 1% on a drive? Is there a chance of losing data?
[17:09] <ypiel> @coXZist  lol
[17:10] <ypiel> @oerheks : yes I don't use this laptop often
[17:11] <ypiel> When I do 'do-release-upgrade' the response is 'Your Ubuntu release is not supported anymore.'
[17:11] <cmdaltescape> JayDoubleu, i had one question about proxmox:  is it necessary to get a raid-controller, or some sort of PCI device to "feed" the VM a bunch of hard drives when making a ZFS pool? (or do normal SATA ports suffice?)
[17:13] <oerheks> ypiel, see ubottu
[17:25] <mort> is it actually that hard for bluetoothtl to print anything other than org.bluez.Error.Failed every time anything goes on
[17:25] <mort> goes wrong*
[17:26] <jeremy31> mort: Is it Broadcom Bluetooth?
[17:26] <mort> no, but that's not the point
[17:27] <mort> bluetoothd knows exactly why it's failing, it even prints the reasons in logs, it just... doesn't send the information about why it failed over dbus apparently?
[17:30] <jeremy31> mort: sounds like a bug that needs reported
[17:31] <mort> I don't think it's a bug, it's been that way forever and most dbus-based *ctl commands also don't really print errors in a useful way
[17:50] <JayDoubleu> cmdaltescape: normal hardware is ok , no need for some fancy raid controllers
[18:02] <atul1090> I am following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MovingLinuxPartition guide from moving ubuntu 20.04 partition from one harddisk to another. My new harddisk is nvme disk (and it got mounted as /dev/nvme0n1p1) and I am not sure what should I use for hd number for this disk (in Step5 of guide). Can someone help me do that or something which I can
[18:02] <atul1090> follow to achieve the same?
[18:05] <garyserj> anybody here use apache? i'm stuck trying to get php running
[18:05] <garyserj> i've done apt-get install php libapache2-mod-php     But it's still not seeing my php file when I do curl 127.0.0.1/index.php
[18:28] <tatertotz> garyserj: are you chatting from the computer right now? yes/no
[19:00] <punkgeek> is /etc/rc.local script file disabled in the new ubuntu versions?
[19:00] <ikonia> punkgeek: don't believe so
[19:00] <ikonia> thought it was one of the last units systemd executed
[19:02] <punkgeek> So how can I run a command after startrup without login?
[19:02] <ikonia> there are many ways
[19:02] <ikonia> what are you trying to actually do
[19:02] <punkgeek> only running a shell script file
[19:02] <ikonia> that does what.....
[19:06] <punkgeek> What is the simplest way? rather than systemd
[19:10] <ikonia>  what do you want to do
[19:17] <knstn> man 5 systemd.timer
[19:18] <knstn> man 5 crontab
[19:25] <geosmile> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/W92zYFrKxm/ - any ideas how to fix this "apt upgrade" issue?
[19:26] <ikonia> geosmile: my word, what version of ubuntu is that
[19:29] <ikonia> 18.04 ?
[19:32] <geosmile> yes
[19:33] <knstn> I have an external HDD 2TB. Is it safe to to "tune2fs -m 1 /dev/..." ? The default 5% that holds for root is too much.
[19:33] <ikonia> that's a very odd warning
[19:33] <geosmile> ikonia, i'm just trying to apt upgrade the machine
[19:33] <ikonia> knstn: it's not too much
[19:34] <ikonia> geosmile: was this an 18.04 install, or was it something else that got upgraded to 18.04 ?
[19:36] <asdf28> knstn yes it is, i set it to 2%
[19:36] <geosmile> ikonia, this is 18.04 from aws
[19:36] <asdf28> no problems so far
[19:36] <geosmile> I used one of their ami's - and got  into this
[19:36] <geosmile> ikonia, so it should be a fresh install
[19:37] <ikonia> geosmile: the two things I'd heck is first remove the package from the cache and re-update see if the error persists, also check your 'env' status and make sure LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set correctly
[19:37] <ikonia> asdf28: it's set correctly, leave it alone
[19:41] <asdf28> why? what can possibly happen?
[19:42] <asdf28> i lowered it because it made the partition backups too big
[19:47] <oerheks> ikonia, interesting answer: https://askubuntu.com/a/1301306 -- sudo fuser -kv /var/cache/debconf/config.dat && sudo apt --fix-broken install
[19:47] <oerheks> i see this a lot with multiarch i386 installed
[19:53] <ikonia> I thought multi-arch had long gone though now
[19:53] <ikonia> with the dropping of 32bit
[20:17] <davyde84> hi! I'm tryin to install this package libglu1-mesa-dev but i have issues with dependencies
[20:17] <davyde84> https://pastebin.com/g9RHDPeJ
[20:23] <oerheks> davyde84, did you use a ppa like this? https://launchpad.net/~kisak/+archive/ubuntu/kisak-mesa
[20:24] <oerheks> kisak~b in the names gave me a clue
[20:25] <davyde84> yes...
[20:25] <davyde84> https://termbin.com/dsrw
[20:25] <davyde84> this is my sources.list
[20:26] <oerheks> i see ..
[20:26] <davyde84> i neither remember why that ppa...
[20:27] <oerheks> not sure, you must have had a reason, for QT, nvidia, something like that
[20:27] <oerheks> reverse it with ppa-purge..
[20:27] <oerheks> !ppa-purge
[20:31] <davyde84> sudo ppa-purge ppa:ppa:kisak/kisak-mesa
[20:31] <davyde84> like this?
[20:31] <oerheks> jups
[20:32] <davyde84> davyde@Star-Pc:~/mudlet/build$ sudo ppa-purge ppa:kisak/kisak-mesa
[20:32] <davyde84> Updating packages lists
[20:32] <davyde84> PPA to be removed: kisak kisak-mesa
[20:32] <davyde84> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: kisak kisak-mesa
[20:32] <davyde84> davyde@Star-Pc:~/mudlet/build$
[20:32] <davyde84> shit
[20:34] <oerheks> ppa:kisak/kisak-mesa should be correct
[20:34] <ioria> try sudo ppa-purge -d focal ppa:kisak/kisak-mesa davyde84
[20:34] <ioria> sorry
[20:34] <ioria> try sudo ppa-purge -d bionic ppa:kisak/kisak-mesa davyde84
[20:35] <davyde84> nothing.. maybe because i delete that from the gui when i tried to upgrade version?
[20:35] <ioria> reenable it
[20:35] <oerheks> yes, add it again, update, and ppa-purge
[20:36] <oerheks> should be possible within one session
[20:37] <oerheks> yoir previous sources.list paste suggested it was enabled
[20:37] <davyde84> seems working
[20:38] <davyde84> wow and i installed my package!
[20:40] <davyde84> yuuh!!!! thanks!!!!!!
[20:40] <davyde84> love u!
[20:40] <oerheks> have fun!
[20:41] <davyde84> now i can play with sounds in a MUD !! if you know what they are aahaha
[20:41] <davyde84> thanks again and goodnight
[21:28] <egrain> is there no disable subtitles key in totem?
[21:29] <zeek> someone still using ship script from github ?
[21:30] <ikonia> what from github ?
[21:31] <oerheks> egrain, i just checked, it does not, indeed. it is available in the menu though
[21:32] <egrain> thanks.
[21:50] <harovali> hi, I have a Virtual Private Server in my local telco which runs Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS. The telco runs this in some sort of hypervisor, I think it is Microsoft Azure. I run this for 10 months fine. The telco had a hardware issue on January 1th night, and relocated my VPS. After much struggle without knowing what would happen, the VPS was accessible. However (continues)
[21:51] <harovali> some services weren't correctly started, f.i. sshd.service reportes /var/run/sshd directory missing running systemctl status (cont'd)
[21:51] <harovali> gnu screen also failed to start with the same structure of problem, namely, /var/run/screen was missing
[21:52] <ikonia> put the directories back ?
[21:52] <ikonia> or use this as an excuse to upgrade to a current distro
[21:52] <harovali> after some googling, I saw a sort of this problem reported, and put the directories back as ikonia  said
[21:53] <harovali> particularly /var/run/sshd and /var/run/screen
[21:53] <harovali> this made those two programs work
[21:54] <harovali> however, I have trouble with some sort of intertwined lock betweetn systemd and apt subsystem
[21:54] <harovali> ikonia: it would be nice if I could find a wayd for this to run
[21:54] <ikonia> so what's the problem ?
[21:55] <harovali> especially the problem with systemd/ apt  I don't know which /var/run directories might be missing
[21:55] <ikonia> just start each service and fix the errors
[21:56] <harovali> I thought this could be a friendly channel, I'll insist though
[21:56] <ikonia> ?
[21:56] <zenen> hey is this an appropriate channel for getting help with ubuntu servers?
[21:56] <ikonia> yup
[21:57] <zenen> nice! so I'm trying to attach some raspberry pi's running ubuntu server to my LAN using a network switch
[21:57] <harovali> ikonia: please see this output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tFVNWJ9T8K/
[21:58] <harovali> ikonia: I'd be very thankful to anyone who helps me understand what might be missing
[21:58] <zenen> I'm using the switch for the computer I'm on right now and the connection is fine. when I'm using the ubuntu servers, I can't ping anything outside of localhost
[21:58] <zeek> guys a little help pls , i have a file that runs with this command : bash filex  // and i want to run it without using 'bash' upfront..
[21:58] <ikonia> harovali: so read the var.conf file and looks for duplicates
[21:59] <ikonia> harovali: I'd also suggest you are missing user accounrs as it can't set the owners correctly
[21:59] <zenen> zeek: I think that putting a #!/bin/bash on the top of the file should make it executable
[21:59] <zeek> i will try, thx
[21:59] <zenen> more info here: https://bash.cyberciti.biz/guide/Shebang
[21:59] <harovali> ikonia: please see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/X8J68Fbctw/   ( my /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/var.conf )
[22:00] <ikonia> zenen: are the machines on the  network
[22:00] <zenen> I don't know what you mean by that. They are plugged into the network switch, which is attached to the main router
[22:00] <zenen> ip route is null
[22:00] <harovali> ikonia: can't find any dups
[22:01] <ikonia> zenen: are they getting IP's
[22:01] <ikonia> is there a dhcp server offering them IP's
[22:01] <zenen> There is, but they aren't making contact with the server
[22:01] <ikonia> harovali: that looks good so you can ignore that warning
[22:01] <zenen> oh, I can ping 0.0.0.0
[22:01] <ikonia> zenen: are they asking for a dhcp address ?
[22:01] <harovali> ikonia: thanks
[22:02] <zenen> I'm not sure
[22:02] <zenen> where would that information be located?
[22:02] <ikonia> harovali: there is the named bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1804847
[22:02] <ikonia> zenen: ok - so that's the first thing you should have a look at
[22:02] <harovali> ikonia: this looks strange https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TfxNShv77M/  ( my /etc/fstab )   because I see no /run entry. Is that right ?
[22:02] <ikonia> zenen: are the pi's asking for an IP
[22:03] <ikonia> harovali: that looks normal
[22:03] <zenen> I don't believe so. I want them to have static IPs because they'll be acting as servers
[22:04] <ikonia> zenen: have you configured them to have static IP's
[22:04] <zeek> zenen, i have this on top of the file #! /usr/bin/env bash
[22:05] <zenen> ikonia: no I have not
[22:05] <zeek> is about ship script (network tool)
[22:05] <ikonia> zenen: so they are not using dhcp and you've not configured an IP
[22:05] <ikonia> zenen: how do you expect them to be on the network ?
[22:05] <zenen> ahaha when I plugged them in the first time, directly to the router, they worked properly
[22:05] <ikonia> zenen: that means they are using dhcp
[22:06] <zenen> oops, okay
[22:06] <oerheks> netplan perhaps..
[22:06] <ikonia> zenen: so are they getting an IP now
[22:07] <harovali> ikonia: however, shoudn't systemd-tmpfiles --create run without issues instead of the paste https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tFVNWJ9T8K/ ?
[22:07] <ikonia> harovali: it depends
[22:07] <ikonia> harovali: it maybe failing quite correctly
[22:07] <harovali> ikonia: hmm
[22:09] <zenen> omg
[22:10] <zenen> ikonia: i realised that i toggled dhcp off in my netplan as I was going to configure static ip
[22:10] <zenen> i fixed it up, restarted and now it's back on the network
[22:11] <harovali> ikonia: then I have this problem which I mentioned , the intertwined systemd / apt whatever corruption or missing whatever. Especially, I'm trying to install a package named dovecot. apt-get install dovecot-core  runs for TWO MINUTES and fails. this is the output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5BVkhYrmCg/
[22:11] <ikonia> why are you trying to install new things on a broken sysstem
[22:11] <ikonia> that's just asking for a problem - fix it, get it stable
[22:11] <ikonia> then decide what to do
[22:11] <harovali> ikonia: I think something is corrupted, but whatever apt-get install -f   or dpgk-reconfigure I try to run, hangs with the same problem
[22:12] <ikonia> you're just running random commands
[22:12] <ikonia> you already know the file system has problems
[22:12] <harovali> ikonia: yes that's true
[22:13] <oerheks> dovecot on an ancient 16.04 .. i would start all over with a fresh 18.04 or higher
[22:13] <harovali> oerheks: thanks
[22:14] <harovali> ikonia: thanks
[22:28] <zeek> zenen, thx worked..
[22:28] <zenen> nice! good to hear
[22:29] <zeek> also i tryed to export path to .bashrc  with no succes , but worked when moved the file to /usr/local/bin ..
[22:29] <zeek> i need to learn how to export to .bashrc
[22:29] <zeek> im so new in linux :D but i love it
[22:42] <XV8> !info ssh
[22:43] <XV8> key exchange authentication appears to be broken with this version of ssh
[22:43] <ikonia> really ?
[22:43] <ikonia> seems to be working ok for everyone else
[22:44] <XV8> When I use ssh-keygen as my own user, tells me I generate the keys with perms that are too permissive (this is what is default). After changing the public key to 0600. After using ssh-copy-id to all of my target hosts and trying to connect with the key, I get this error: Load key "/home/$user/.ssh/id_rsa.pub": invalid format
[22:45] <XV8> Looking on Google, appears to be an upstream bug with SSH
[22:45] <ikonia> how is it working for everyone else ?
[22:46] <ikonia> XV8: what does the public key format look like
[22:46] <ikonia> (when it says it's invalid)
[22:47] <XV8> It's a single line: ssh-rsa <$KEY> $user@host
[22:48] <XV8> no whitespace in key either
[22:48] <ikonia> you're doing this on a 20.04 machine ?
[22:48] <XV8> 20.04.1 LTS
[23:05] <XV8> ikonia https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ySjXnSJphG/
[23:05] <kotek14> Sup. Does anyone know if they're going to fix ALC294 sound card on 20.04? It used to work normally on 5.4.0-42. Now I don't get any sound from laptop speakers.
[23:06] <ikonia> kotek14: is there a bug logged
[23:07] <kotek14> ikonia I sent a bug report in December but it haven't moved since https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1908286
[23:07] <ikonia> kotek14: then how would anyone know if it's going to be fixed
[23:08] <ikonia> XV8: I'm just grabbing a 20.04 box
[23:08] <kotek14> I know that many users had trouble with ALC294, that's why I asked
[23:08] <XV8> also fysa, these target hosts are running in lxc containers
[23:09] <ikonia> kotek14: ....but many users don't matter, the bug report and status does
[23:09] <kotek14> ikonia, Alright then, I'll just keep my fingers (and toes) crossed
[23:10] <kotek14> Thank you
[23:27] <Hash> Hello
[23:27] <Hash> If you image an ubuntu partition/drive and restore it on a diff pc, will it work?
[23:28] <Hash> By diff pc I mean cpu/hardware config
[23:31] <kotek14> Hash: Depends. If your original machine had several drives in /etc/fstab, it's going to get messy
[23:32] <kotek14> Happened to me before
[23:32] <kotek14> Hash: what is your goal?
[23:39] <Hash> Well, I went to microcenter and bought this: https://i.imgur.com/dfEjBya.png
[23:39] <Hash> Going to make a new pc, and put my drives in there. Trying to not have to reinstall linux
[23:39] <Hash> So I figured, if just move this drive to a new hardware setup, since it's a default kernel, not customized, hw should be detected and work fine
[23:40] <Hash> I'd just need to modify any other drives montpoints etc. etc.
[23:40] <Hash> My only question/concer is regarding hw change underneath. Windows fails to work if you do this, but I expect linux to kind of work it out
[23:41] <Hash> I'll check it out. It's a 128gb ssd with / and /home. I'll try to boot it in the new system and see how that goes.
[23:43] <kotek14> Yeah, that should work if you move over drives. Keep your fingers (and toes) crossed
[23:45] <Hash> I always keep my toes crossed.
[23:48] <XV8> ikonia interesting. So if I call the full path of the key with the -i flag, it fails, but if I remove -i, it allows me ot use the key with no issues.
[23:53] <XV8> ikonia I am an idiot. I was trying to authenticate with the public key, not the private key. /facepalm
[23:53] <XV8> That's why it was complaining about the format.
[23:53]  * XV8 needs more coffee
[23:54] <mefistofeles> XV8: try less :)
[23:54] <XV8> mefistofeles I do need to drink more water, that is a fact, lol