[00:00] @dohbee [no way to even do that with native app], [Edit] sounds like yet another feature request :p [00:00] @mateosalta [lomiri takes too long to build, good thing I found a way to turn of the qml cach …], do you need to turn it off? [00:01] wait you know how to— are you using ci? [00:02] @Fuseteam [do you need to turn it off?], yeah, need to restart, some of the panel qml files are loaded as .qmlc [00:03] @Fuseteam [wait you know how to— are you using ci?], I tried but my first changes are still building ;P [00:03] ci is a lot faster and easier for the system settings app [00:03] @Fuseteam [for my sanity; are you doing it according to these steps: … - copy value 1 … - paste …], huh confirmed it pasted different values in morph and @Cesar_herrera's webapp [00:04] ok [00:04] weird bug [00:05] @mateosalta [ci is a lot faster and easier for the system settings app], yeah i imagine i almost thought you know how to build locally :p [00:05] @mateosalta [yeah, need to restart, some of the panel qml files are loaded as .qmlc], hmm inteesting, how did you turn it off? [00:05] @Fuseteam [yeah i imagine i almost thought you know how to build locally :p], nope, not that advance yet :) [00:06] @mateosalta [ci is a lot faster and easier for the system settings app], [Edit] yeah i can imagine; i almost thought you knew how to build locally :p [00:06] you and me both hah# [00:06] [Edit] you and me both haha [00:09] i wonder if marius documented that oil for mir yet === peterM is now known as linmob [00:12] so in /etc/envrionment [00:13] add QML_DISABLE_DISK_CACHE=1 [00:13] then in /usr/share/unity8/Panel [00:13] you can delete all the .qmlc files (only the ones with the c :) [00:14] then it will load the qml files there instead [00:16] coool [00:21] @Fuseteam [i wonder if marius documented that oil for mir yet], ohw cool sounds like alan is making progress https://forums.ubports.com/topic/5222/introducing-miroil/9 [00:21] so he probably did [00:25] tfw you realize **m**ir **i**s **r**ecursive is recursive [00:26] [Edit] tfw you realize "mir is recursive" is recursive [00:44] cool a running demo :) [01:07] yupp xD [01:09] tomorrow might be google login armageddon [01:10] we will see if qtwebengine counts as a chromium embedded framework [01:49] (Photo, 1280x590) https://irc.ubports.com/YEHjBR90.png [01:49] woo, sidestage :) [01:56] @mateosalta [], tab or phone :D [02:19] @mateosalta [], wooo [02:19] @mariogrip [tab or phone :D], I hacked the volley phone to do it :) [02:20] @mariogrip [tab or phone :D], [Edit] I hacked the volla phone to do it :) [02:20] volley :D [02:20] well, needto turn of auto correct on the new phone ;p [02:20] @mateosalta [I hacked the volla phone to do it :)], how well does it work on a "compact" screen? [02:21] Is quite nice on these phones with the longer aspect ratio, pine, and this one [02:22] @mateosalta [Is quite nice on these phones with the longer aspect ratio, pine, and this one], maybe we should have an option in settings to enable it? [02:22] like regardless of screen size? [02:22] I bet we could turn the check so it finds the screen width [02:23] Like if browser showstabs, and settings is dual pane [02:24] @mateosalta [I bet we could turn the check so it finds the screen width], that too, but would be nice to have settings to disable it at least [02:24] An option would be cool, I know the new xda phone would really benifit [02:25] Kind of separate out that feature from all or nothing tablet mode [02:32] So yeah, this phone is looking like one of the best ones so far :) defiantly for the eu ( usa without the same 4g frequencies, so no fast data for here) [04:41] Joshua D was added by: Joshua D [04:43] Is that possible to get Ubuntu touch for OnePlus 8T? [04:54] Joshua, the list of devices that can use ub touch is on the website. [05:45] @mariogrip [that too, but would be nice to have settings to disable it at least], I agree on this, I've also enabled it on my phones before and it can be useful even on a Nexus 5. The code's logic doesn't seem to be simple though. The device has to be identified as tablet and such [05:48] and strangely, background of apps is also disabled with the side-stage enabled so terminal opacity takes effect on staged mode 😄 [06:36] @Fuseteam [yeah i can imagine; i almost thought you knew how to build locally :p], Build clicks on device? Seabass2 has clickable support build in. Although I did not try it yet. [07:40] Canada.... was added by: Canada.... [07:40] (Photo, 666x858) https://irc.ubports.com/ijW2Oy00.png [10:54] @Danfro [Build clicks on device? Seabass2 has clickable support build in. Although I did …], hmmm? was talking about lomiri, but clickable sounds interesting too [10:55] @mariogrip [maybe we should have an option in settings to enable it?], that sounds like an idea XD [11:02] @Fuseteam [that sounds like an idea XD], can't that be achieve with the use mode that we can set with UTTT? [11:02] I mean windowed/ scene [11:03] yes and no, the sidestage is tad different [11:04] [Edit] yes and no, the sidestage is tad different from windowed mode [11:54] About backups... I used buds script to backup ut on volla … Any one using it had success in restoring? … Are there better ways for ut backup then buds script? [12:07] unknown1121832 was added by: unknown1121832 [12:39] Anastacia Arroyo was added by: Anastacia Arroyo [12:51] @Flohack [Remember its S3 Neo, not S3... s3ve3g only ^^], Thanks. . [13:13] (Photo, 607x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/fdemUJ3z.png LOOOK -- https://bit.ly/38ccvD3 [13:15] @Anastacia Arroyo [], Fuck Ban u [13:33] eomer bs was added by: eomer bs [13:42] juandiegodelpozo was added by: juandiegodelpozo [13:54] Philippe was added by: Philippe [14:13] H@NSON was added by: H@NSON [14:14] Hi can anyone tell is redmi 8 will get Ubuntu touch [14:14] have you checked devices.ubuntu-touch.io? [14:15] [Edit] have you checked devices.ubuntu-touch.io and https://forums.ubports.com/category/33/porting? [14:15] @Fuseteam [have you checked devices.ubuntu-touch.io and https://forums.ubports.com/category …], Yes there is still no redmi 8 I been waiting for a year now [14:15] well that just mean none of the current porters have a redmi 8 [14:16] would you like to become a porter? [14:16] @Fuseteam [well that just mean none of the current porters have a redmi 8], Why that made me sad no option on Xiaomi redmi 8 user [14:16] Because I love Ubuntu touch [14:16] many porters started with 0 experience with porting [14:17] yes, each phone requires a specific image built, so someone who owns the device has to do the port [14:17] @Fuseteam [would you like to become a porter?], How [14:17] @Fuseteam [many porters started with 0 experience with porting], Yes I have no experience none [14:17] @H@NSON [How], feel free to follow the instructions at docs.halium.org [14:18] No experience In programming and coding and computer experience [14:18] that no issue, many porters are not programmers [14:18] [Edit] that's no issue, many porters are not programmers [14:19] if any of the steps are confusing feel free to ask in @halium, do keep in mind to be as specific as possible, that you'll require a desktop computer and that it can takea a few months [14:20] Hmm I dont have computer [14:20] Maybe next time [14:30] No answer on group helium [14:31] @H@NSON [No answer on group helium], Well you gotta wait, if nobody replies then you have to try porting yourself or buy a device that supports UT [14:34] @ItsMeShouko [Well you gotta wait, if nobody replies then you have to try porting yourself or …], Hmmm that gonna be hard because all of the supported device were old device. [14:34] @H@NSON [Hmmm that gonna be hard because all of the supported device were old device.], Vollaphone is a new one [14:34] @H@NSON [Hmmm that gonna be hard because all of the supported device were old device.], [Edit] Volla phone is a new one [14:36] And some others android9 compatible are from 2019 so not old. [14:36] @libremax [And some others android9 compatible are from 2019 so not old.], In 2021 hello [14:36] It's old [14:36] And old device like N5 run very well with UT. [14:37] @H@NSON [It's old], Am consuuummm [14:38] What the latest version of UT now can I see new features that avaible on ubport does not said much [14:38] [Edit] And "old" device like N5 run very well with UT. [14:38] I want to know it's ui [14:38] Is it beautiful [14:39] How old is your obsession of new ? [14:41] @H@NSON [No experience In programming and coding and computer experience], Tobiyo typically uses me as an example [14:42] @libremax [How old is your obsession of new ?], Lol [14:42] No screenshot of the Ui on UT [14:43] What I mean was I just want to see the UI [14:43] And I want to know it's there a new version of ubuntu touch? [14:44] there are new versions of ubuntu touch all the time [14:44] @dohbee [there are new versions of ubuntu touch all the time], That great news [14:45] Where can find official Ubuntu touch source code? [14:46] there are hundreds of repositories that make up ubuntu touch, but you don't need to build them all yourself [14:46] Volla phone does not avaible in my country [14:46] @dohbee [there are hundreds of repositories that make up ubuntu touch, but you don't need …], Ok [14:48] @dohbee [there are hundreds of repositories that make up ubuntu touch, but you don't need …], So how can I be a member of ubport and made more device avaible with ubuntu touch [14:48] just start porting devices [15:10] @H@NSON [It's old], lol a good headups up is that devices that ship with android 10 cannot be ported atm [15:11] @Shakendo [Tobiyo typically uses me as an example], i still do :p [15:12] @Fuseteam [lol a good headups up is that devices that ship with android 10 cannot be ported …], Hah atm? [15:12] at the moment [15:13] and tygerpro is prime example of someone who started with zero experience [15:13] his device just landed in the installer last year XD [15:15] @H@NSON [In 2021 hello], guess how long it took him :p [15:15] my device still has some issues though, and I dont know if Ill even be able to use it after this month [15:15] @Fuseteam [guess how long it took him :p], do you even know how long it took me? [15:15] 69420 years [15:15] @Shakendo [do you even know how long it took me?], off the top of my head 2-3 years [15:16] @amyosx [69420 years], hahaha bad Amy [15:16] That's how long grouper port will take lol [15:16] @amyosx [69420 years], lol you just had to didn't you 😂 [15:17] @Fuseteam [lol you just had to didn't you 😂], Why not lol [15:17] If only Quotly existed on youtube [15:17] I could have sent the Alan Pope message saying "nice" [15:17] @amyosx [That's how long grouper port will take lol], I have a grouper, and y'know you can always dabble in porting it as well [15:17] @amyosx [I could have sent the Alan Pope message saying "nice"], lol [15:18] @Shakendo [I have a grouper, and y'know you can always dabble in porting it as well], I know I also have some other stuff I do [15:18] I'm afraid that when I'm porting it by myself and learn programming it would waste my time and break my phone [15:18] I only have one device in hand [15:18] Dalton: "don't say it" … Alan: "nice" [15:18] @Shakendo [I have a grouper, and y'know you can always dabble in porting it as well], i might dabble in porting soon myself [15:18] @Fuseteam [i might dabble in porting soon myself], You have grouper too? [15:18] 2012 nexus 7? [15:19] @mateosalta [2012 nexus 7?], Yes [15:19] I have one, I think the battery is dead though [15:19] no but i may get my hands on an android 7 device soon [15:19] it has the last ubuntu touch version that was made for it on it though [15:19] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/2algIBjp.png Need to get it off cm [15:19] i too have a useless dust collecting device [15:19] @mateosalta [it has the last ubuntu touch version that was made for it on it though], It has 14.04 on the server still [15:20] Trying to figure out how to install it lol [15:20] @dohbee [i too have a useless dust collecting device], LOL [15:20] I got given this grouper by my cs teacher [15:20] @H@NSON [I'm afraid that when I'm porting it by myself and learn programming it would was …], it isn't easy to completely break a device 90% of the time you can restore it as far as i've heard [15:20] @amyosx [It has 14.04 on the server still], oh maybe not the latest then, mine was on 13.10 [15:20] Built some ROMs a few years ago and he saw them [15:21] the problem is mir never really worked on that device [15:21] Yeah [15:21] Mainline works well [15:21] @amyosx [Trying to figure out how to install it lol], you'll need ubuntu 14.04 desktop, and the tool, Ive installed old UT (15.04 based) on my N5 [15:21] Mainline port it? [15:21] @Shakendo [you'll need ubuntu 14.04 desktop, and the tool, Ive installed old UT (15.04 base …], OK time to get virtualbox setup [15:22] mainline port what? grouper? [15:23] @Fuseteam [mainline port what? grouper?], Yep [15:23] It has pmos mainline [15:24] cool that'd be interesting [15:25] btw iirc ut uses pulseaudio, how similar is that with upstream? [15:25] Yup I'm using android 10 for now got update last year [15:25] @Fuseteam [btw iirc ut uses pulseaudio, how similar is that with upstream?], pulseaudio is standard iirc [15:25] I have on arch lol [15:25] @H@NSON [Yup I'm using android 10 for now got update last year], sure but did it ship with android 10? [15:26] @Fuseteam [sure but did it ship with android 10?], No it ship in android 9 2019 [15:26] @amyosx [pulseaudio is standard iirc], so i discovered pulseaudio is capable of playing sound over a network [15:26] And it got android 10 in 2020 [15:26] Bug? On Nexus 4 mako everything is great but... the camera drops the system XD [15:26] @Fuseteam [so i discovered pulseaudio is capable of playing sound over a network], Lol [15:27] @H@NSON [No it ship in android 9 2019], so you definition of "old" applies to android, not the actually device? [15:27] Hi all, I'm having trouble adding my Google account to my new UBports Nexus 5 install. Getting an insecure error on the Google sign in page. Any pointers? Thanks. [15:27] @amyosx [Lol], you catch my drift already lol [15:28] @N0nZer0 [Hi all, I'm having trouble adding my Google account to my new UBports Nexus 5 in …], google is actively blocking none-chrome logins atm [15:28] @Fuseteam [so you definition of "old" applies to android, not the actually device?], No my device is also in 2019 for me it's old supposed someone already port but still no yone done it [15:28] @N0nZer0 [Hi all, I'm having trouble adding my Google account to my new UBports Nexus 5 in …], Yes, pm me [15:28] @Fuseteam [google is actively blocking none-chrome logins atm], Thank you for the heads up [15:29] @H@NSON [No my device is also in 2019 for me it's old supposed someone already port but s …], well i was going to say there are plenty of ported 2019 devices :p [15:29] Still no reply on helium group [15:29] because noone has that device as i told you [15:29] it's halium and you don't need to keep repeating yourself :0 [15:29] [Edit] it's halium and you don't need to keep repeating yourself :) [15:29] @Fuseteam [well i was going to say there are plenty of ported 2019 devices :p], Hmm but no official releases [15:30] @dohbee [it's halium and you don't need to keep repeating yourself :)], Sorry [15:30] Halium [15:30] Auto correct [15:30] @H@NSON [Hmm but no official releases], are you sure? check devices.ubuntu-touch.io again we when from 10 to 50 just last year [15:31] @H@NSON [Hmm but no official releases], [Edit] are you sure? check devices.ubuntu-touch.io again we went from 10 to 50 just last year [15:31] @H@NSON [Hmm but no official releases], [Edit] are you sure? check devices.ubuntu-touch.io again we went from 10 to 50 devices just last year [15:31] Did you know 50 devices run Ubuntu Touch? [15:31] @Fuseteam [so i discovered pulseaudio is capable of playing sound over a network], oh? do tell [15:31] Sure, three billion devices run Java. But did you know that 51 devices run Ubuntu Touch? By the way, if your device is not listed here, you might be interested to learn how to make the 52nd Ubuntu Touch port! [15:31] @amyosx [Sure, three billion devices run Java. But did you know that 51 devices run Ubunt …], I was about to make that joke [15:32] @Shakendo [oh? do tell], oho~ lemme find the link [15:32]