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| guiverc | kc2bez, FYI & re: t181 update, I'd started started a QA-test of a focal install, for purposes of play with https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/sambashare-fixes/1980/3 or wxl's suggestion.. (testing may not get done today; but install was for that purpose) just FYI | 03:23 |
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| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Sounds good, thanks guiverc | 03:25 |
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| wxl | @kc2bez: is there any thought upstream about variable swapfile sizes? | 06:03 |
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| RyuKurisu[m] | <lubot "[telegram] <kc2bez> You mentione"> Like theming XScreenSaver? | 08:28 |
| wxl | we've already done some. you're not getting rid of that burning screen logo, though, as much as we might like | 08:29 |
| wxl | https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/toolkits.html | 08:30 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | Why not? I have already read that it is very specific in what it accepts, but it is doable AFAIK | 08:31 |
| wxl | it's the epilogue and update that are relevant | 08:32 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | Ah the use of GTK/Qt toolkit? | 08:34 |
| wxl | https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21 | 08:34 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Resolved] Our xscreensaver theme is too old: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21 | 08:34 | |
| wxl | tl;dr rewriting it to make it pretty ended up making it insecure | 08:34 |
| wxl | THIS is a good read https://www.jwz.org/blog/2014/04/the-awful-thing-about-getting-it-right-the-first-time-is-that-nobody-realizes-how-hard-it-was/ | 08:35 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | Do we have a stylesheet? | 08:36 |
| wxl | jamie has went to ridiculous ends to ensure security. to change the look we want to put that at risk? and besides, don't we deserve him a little thanks via his logo? | 08:36 |
| wxl | you can change all sorts of colors and fonts as shown in that task where we actually changed it | 08:36 |
| wxl | there's lots of info in there on how to do so | 08:36 |
| wxl | besides, changing it literally requires recompiling it https://www.improbability.net/xss/ (this is unmaintained) | 08:37 |
| wxl | ((and incompatible with new versions)) | 08:38 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | But do we have a stylesheet? | 08:42 |
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| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T181: GID/UID mismatch for users.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T181#4023 | 12:56 | |
| wxl | @RyuKurisu[m]: if you read what's there, it's apparent there's no stylesheet. hell, this all came before style sheets! | 17:10 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T181: GID/UID mismatch for users.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T181#4025 | 17:16 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T140: Home page about us page blog template email optin placements] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T140#4030 | 17:42 | |
| wxl | ^ @tsimonq2 please reply back to that T140 ASAP. just needs your approval and i can move forward. | 17:43 |
| tsimonq2 | Looking. | 17:43 |
| wxl | it's not urgent per se but i clearly dropped the ball on it and it's someone who wants to help in an area we desperately need it | 17:43 |
| tsimonq2 | Ack, if he's still around and willing. :) | 17:43 |
| wxl | great thanks | 17:43 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T140: Home page about us page blog template email optin placements] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T140#4031 | 17:44 | |
| RyuKurisu[m] | <wxl "@RyuKurisu[m]: if you read what'"> I'm not asking is XScreenSaver had a stylesheet, but if Lubuntu has one, colour palette or anything. | 17:48 |
| wxl | RyuKurisu[m]: many moons ago when we had an actual artist doing design work for us, we did. now it's just chaos. we try to keep it blue and purple. XD | 17:48 |
| wxl | RyuKurisu[m]: that said, if you want to become the art director PLEASE DO!!!!! you are more than welcome to make these definitions for us | 17:49 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh and while we're at it... | 17:49 |
| tsimonq2 | LURKERS I SEE YOU! Reach out and become involved :) | 17:49 |
| wxl | says capt. idle himself XD | 17:50 |
| wxl | still, agreed X'''D | 17:50 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> *erases @tsimonq2 because of Simon being a hypocrite* | 17:51 |
| RikMills | 'capt. idle' LOL | 17:51 |
| wxl | so just to again put this on record, we could really really really really really use some consistent help in art/design. if anyone has any interest in this area, even if you have zero experience, you're likely better at it than we are, so please jump on in! | 17:51 |
| tsimonq2 | That's MSG Idle to you | 17:51 |
| wxl | mmmmmmmmmmmmm kay | 17:51 |
| tsimonq2 | hah | 17:51 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> *tosses @tsimonq2 into the salt mines* | 17:52 |
| tsimonq2 | I AM THE SALT MINES | 17:52 |
| wxl | i think the bot just died again | 17:56 |
| wxl | lugito that is | 17:56 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> well i'm not surprised with all the POSTs its getting being beyond index ranges and the insane level of errors its' triggering | 18:00 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> probably overflowing xD | 18:00 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> the bot IS seeing my messages though | 18:00 |
| wxl | sounds like a problem with the bot | 18:02 |
| wxl | maybe we should discuss the problem with the developer | 18:02 |
| wxl | *AHEM* | 18:02 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> lol | 18:03 |
| wxl | hm we don't have a way to update cala and cala settings before installing, do we? | 18:30 |
| wxl | @kc2bez: i'm thinking the ultimate solution to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1908846 in focal is updating the release notes. interested in making that happen? | 19:08 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1908846 in calamares (Ubuntu) "lubuntu focal.2 calamares fails to parse GeoIP results correctly in JSON (refile)" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 19:08 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Yes and no. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> hm we don't have a way to update cala and cala settings before installing, do we?) | 19:11 |
| wxl | ahahhaahh well played XD | 19:12 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> We could revive the SRU bug we had. | 19:13 |
| wxl | we had one? | 19:14 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Simon did. | 19:14 |
| wxl | seems impractical | 19:14 |
| tsimonq2 | What'd I do? | 19:14 |
| tsimonq2 | Oh, yeah. | 19:14 |
| tsimonq2 | That SRU bug I filed right before I went AFK for a month or two. | 19:14 |
| tsimonq2 | Nice. :P | 19:14 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Yeah, that one | 19:14 |
| wxl | so abucodonosor actually came up with a relatively good idea: start cala with a wrapper that first runs an update on cala and then runs it | 19:16 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> It needs a fixup though based on the changes aptghetto had | 19:16 |
| wxl | right, THAT would need to be SRU'd | 19:17 |
| wxl | but still it wouldn't be on the ISOs | 19:17 |
| wxl | they're not going to respin the ISOs for us | 19:17 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> It would be on the next point release though | 19:17 |
| wxl | which means we'd have to wait until the next point rleease | 19:17 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> which is RSN | 19:18 |
| wxl | so we still need to update the current releases' release notes | 19:18 |
| wxl | in the end my feeling is that it's way too much effort for such a small thing | 19:18 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> ok, fair enough | 19:18 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I can edit the release notes | 19:18 |
| wxl | thank you :) | 19:19 |
| wxl | @kc2bez @tsimonq2 what do you think about the idea of running cala as a wrapper that updates cala and settings first? | 19:19 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Which release notes should I be worrying about though | 19:19 |
| tsimonq2 | That could be doable. | 19:20 |
| wxl | the two that are released | 19:20 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> ok | 19:20 |
| wxl | i'll make a task for the wrapper idea | 19:20 |
| wxl | thanks @kc2bez ! | 19:20 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Sure | 19:20 |
| wxl | if you want to follow through on that SRU, @tsimonq2 , feel free, but i think it's a waste of time, personally | 19:21 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: if you do want to, this is the current bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1908846 | 19:22 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1908846 in calamares (Ubuntu) "lubuntu focal.2 calamares fails to parse GeoIP results correctly in JSON (refile)" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 19:22 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> Where would we be pulling the updated cala and settings from? | 19:23 |
| wxl | the desktop entry exec change from running cala to running a script which checks for an internet connection and given that its there, runs an update and upgrade specifically on cala/settings, and then runs cala | 19:25 |
| wxl | does that make sense? | 19:25 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> I understand that part but will the update come from a ppa or the archive? | 19:25 |
| wxl | oh i'm thinking the archive | 19:26 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> So we would still need an SRU for that right? | 19:26 |
| wxl | it might be convenient to have it in a ppa but the SRU policy is there for a reason and i think it's wise to not circumvent it | 19:26 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> That makes sense | 19:26 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | <wxl "RyuKurisu: that said, if you wan"> I have no formal training in art, design or media, so don't have high hopes. And I'm currently at home with burn-out symptoms, so taking on such a role right now might not be the best idea for me. | 20:43 |
| wxl | @RyuKurisu[m]: can't blame me for trying :) hope you feel better | 20:43 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | I don't mind being a forerunner in the design section, or at least trying to get everything more consistent 🙂 | 20:45 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | <wxl "RyuKurisu: many moons ago when w"> Do you happen to have the old stylesheet? That might be a good departure point to get everything in line? | 20:46 |
| wxl | pretty much no one is doing anything on that front, so if you had interested in doing so, that would be fantastic | 20:46 |
| wxl | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing however you can see how it's changed over the years | 20:48 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | <wxl "so just to again put this on rec"> I do have interest, but maybe not the time to be available all the time/meetings | 20:48 |
| wxl | i guess what i'm saying is with no one working on it, you can just do it at your leisure with no expectations or requirements | 20:49 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | <tsimonq2 "That's MSG Idle to you "> MSG? 🧐 | 20:49 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | <wxl "which means we'd have to wait un"> You shouldn't wait, but we'll have to wait once it is send upstream for it is in the Dot release | 20:53 |
| lynorian | I hope you feel better ryukurisu[m] | 20:56 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | Thanks lynorian 🙂 | 20:58 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | <wxl "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/"> I suddenly spot purple in the 14.04 release 🧐 | 20:59 |
| tsimonq2 | <RyuKurisu[m] "<tsimonq2 "That's MSG Idle to yo"> Master Sergeant | 21:00 |
| tsimonq2 | (Mind you, I have no clue what the significance of that is, it just sounds absurdly overkill.) | 21:00 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | <lynorian "I hope you feel better RyuKurisu"> I'm already home for about 2 months and I can't say the sudden 'hard lockdown' announced 3 weeks ago didn't really help. I've got a 3.5 year old boy that is quite a handful 🥰 | 21:01 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | <tsimonq2 "<RyuKurisu[m] "<tsimonq2 "That's"> I used to be general Idle, but I got demoted 😅 | 21:02 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | * I used to be General Idle, but I got demoted 😅 | 21:21 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | wxl reading through the wiki links, I notice the Ubuntu pages are almost 12 years old, or at least not edited that time 🙃 | 21:23 |
| guiverc | RyuKurisu[m], https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180 (Cleanup Ubuntu Wiki) | 21:24 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Cleanup Ubuntu Wiki: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180 | 21:24 | |
| wxl | @RyuKurisu[m]: when we set up our phabricator instance we stopped bothering with the wiki and even before that there were many pages that were poorly maintained | 21:24 |
| wxl | i wll again reiterate we have LONG been without a consistent art/design person | 21:24 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> We mostly use the wiki in phabricator | 21:24 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | I was talking about the Ubuntu pages specifically, not Lubuntu | 21:26 |
| guiverc | sorry | 21:26 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | np o/ | 21:26 |
| guiverc | o/ | 21:27 |
| wxl | that's a bigger issue: the wiki software sucks and many folks got frustrated with it | 21:27 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | Moinmoin wiki? I don't hate it, it's pretty nice when you get the hang of it | 21:28 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif/ | 21:28 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | That is my page | 21:29 |
| wxl | as an example, try logging in. chances are you'll have to refresh 10-20 times before it actually goes through | 21:29 |
| wxl | and then there's the never-ending spam attacks | 21:29 |
| tsimonq2 | Only that many? | 21:29 |
| wxl | and then there's the stupid proprietary markup language | 21:29 |
| wxl | ^ what he said | 21:29 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | <guiverc "RyuKurisu, https://phab.lubuntu."> The linked Google docs link has all Lubuntu links on wiki.ubuntu.com? | 21:47 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> which Google docs link? | 21:48 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> there's been heavy work to migrate all wiki.u.c links to phab wiki pages | 21:48 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> but by no means are *all* updated, and if the gdoc is *old* then those links might not be up to date | 21:48 |
| lubot | [telegram] <lynorian> I remembered not liking the moinmoin format and the web editor being glacial for stuff | 21:49 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSg6S8yAuNGwGPldCaayOnATk7Q-4IM7fDLumCqUy_klehOIgT6y25wRvQHqMHnUINIrIdPFDscJUmh/pub | 21:49 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | <lubot "[telegram] <teward001> which Goo"> ^ | 21:51 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> i can read ;) | 21:51 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> my point was I think that the doc might be outdated | 21:51 |
| * RyuKurisu[m] is off to bed | 21:51 | |
| RyuKurisu[m] | Good night everyone | 21:52 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> given this in the end of the doc: <wxl> if anyone wants to make a project out of digging through the old wiki to see if there’s anything useful and transferring it over to phabricator, that would be great | 21:52 |
| RyuKurisu[m] | 😴😴😴 | 21:52 |
| guiverc | RyuKurisu[m], No... the gdoc contained where I started from adding the redirects but mainly deprecated notices... it was more for me.. and I documented less as I went on .. | 22:03 |
| guiverc | @teward001, the end of the doc led to https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180# | 22:04 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Cleanup Ubuntu Wiki: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180# | 22:04 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T184: create mechanism to update Calamares and settings before running] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T184 | 22:05 | |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> guiverc: that I know | 22:05 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> but there's nothing in the doc that actually POINTS to that task | 22:05 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> so that's where users get 100% confused like in this case :P | 22:05 |
| wxl | @guiverc: this is a duplicate of that other bug, right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1904974 | 22:07 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1904974 in calamares (Ubuntu) "calamares selected wrong timezone" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 22:07 |
| guiverc | @teward001, yeah rather glaring oversight (missing link) | 22:10 |
| * guiverc looking for other report wxl | 22:11 | |
| guiverc | sorry wxl, marking 1908846 duplicate of 1904974 | 22:14 |
| wxl | thx guiverc | 22:16 |
| wxl | is this still occurring? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1909622 | 22:16 |
| ubot93 | Launchpad bug 1909622 in calamares (Ubuntu) "lubuntu hirsute install; calamares error" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 22:16 |
| guiverc | last I tested for it, yep.. can re-test if you like, but it ONLY occurs if calamares started as listed in text (not via desktop icon, not via Install.Lubuntu.20.10; only with "Install System" in menu | 22:17 |
| wxl | OH | 22:18 |
| guiverc | last occurrence was on 2021-10-04.1 ISO | 22:18 |
| kc2bez | That is the desktop file that Calamares provides. Not the one we do. wxl | 22:18 |
| wxl | that may not actually be an error | 22:18 |
| wxl | right | 22:18 |
| wxl | if `NotShowIn=LXQt` worked, i guess we could do that | 22:19 |
| wxl | meanwhile i guess i'm going to mark it as won't fix | 22:19 |
| wxl | it's kind of like issues with the default openbox session, it's not necessarily something we support | 22:19 |
| kc2bez | it is already patched to have that | 22:19 |
| wxl | we probably have aother bug somewhere then | 22:20 |
| kc2bez | if you look at the desktop file it has the Not show line | 22:20 |
| guiverc | fyi: the install actually works; just errors implying it failed | 22:21 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Leokolb> I just tested hirsute iso (todays) no error | 22:21 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Leokolb> tested both desktop and menu | 22:21 |
| wxl | i think the key, @leokolb, is using the install icon that does NOT have lubuntu in it | 22:22 |
| kc2bez | That makes sense guiverc. the log file would be in root's home since we don't export to the local user like the other desktop file does. | 22:23 |
| kc2bez | the log transfer is one of the final steps | 22:24 |
| guiverc | thanks kc2bez | 22:24 |
| kc2bez | wxl: we patch the desktop file here https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares/browse/ubuntu%252Fgroovy/debian/patches/0001-replace-pkexec-by-sudo.patch$22 | 22:24 |
| wxl | @kc2bez: i linked your upstream issue about NotShowIn misbehaving and explained | 22:25 |
| kc2bez | Well that is groovy but it is the same for Hirsute | 22:25 |
| kc2bez | thanks wxl and guiverc | 22:25 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Leokolb> @wxl all 3 work for me.. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> i think the key, @leokolb, is using the install icon that does NOT have lubuntu in it) | 22:25 |
| wxl | well THAT's weird | 22:25 |
| wxl | but ok :) | 22:25 |
| kc2bez | ^ | 22:26 |
| guiverc | I only mention having issues with BIOS boxes | 22:26 |
| wxl | i'm not too interested in going down that rabbit hole since we've kind of done everything we can | 22:26 |
| wxl | got a bug for me @guiverc ? | 22:26 |
| guiverc | nah , that comment was still on 1909622 or calamares error on "Install System" | 22:27 |
| wxl | oh ok | 22:27 |
| wxl | maybe that is strangely related? in any case, rabbit hole | 22:27 |
| guiverc | ack | 22:27 |
| wxl | i had enough of a rabbit hole trying to answer that no sound inquiry on disocurse XD | 22:27 |
| wxl | not to mention the darn sddm theme!!!! | 22:27 |
| wxl | oh shoot did i do the wrong bug? | 22:28 |
| wxl | i did ugh | 22:28 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> *hands wxl the "You Failed" star* | 22:29 |
| guiverc | Thanks @Loekolb, you picked up the non-BIOS testing I never got too, thank you ! | 22:30 |
| lubot | [telegram] <Leokolb> tks (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> Thanks @Loekolb, you picked up the non-BIOS testing I never got too, thank you !) | 22:31 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> /me pastes wxl's star to your check. (re @teward001: *hands wxl the "You Failed" star*) | 22:34 |
| lubot | [telegram] <kc2bez> oopsies | 22:34 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> :P | 22:36 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Qt 4 Removal] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115#4046 | 22:37 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T106: 18.04 SRUs] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T106#4054 | 22:42 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T154: Strange behaviour of lubuntu-grub-theme when purging it from the system] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T154#4057 | 22:45 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T146: libreoffice qt5 vcl] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T146#4059 | 22:50 | |
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