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[03:23] <guiverc> kc2bez, FYI & re: t181 update, I'd started started a QA-test of a focal install, for purposes of play with https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/sambashare-fixes/1980/3 or wxl's suggestion..  (testing may not get done today; but install was for that purpose)  just FYI
 Sounds good, thanks guiverc
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[06:03] <wxl> @kc2bez: is there any thought upstream about variable swapfile sizes?
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[08:28] <RyuKurisu[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <kc2bez> You mentione"> Like theming XScreenSaver? 
[08:29] <wxl> we've already done some. you're not getting rid of that burning screen logo, though, as much as we might like
[08:30] <wxl> https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/toolkits.html
[08:31] <RyuKurisu[m]> Why not?  I have already read that it is very specific in what it accepts, but it is doable AFAIK 
[08:32] <wxl> it's the epilogue and update that are relevant
[08:34] <RyuKurisu[m]> Ah the use of GTK/Qt toolkit?
[08:34] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21
[08:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Resolved] Our xscreensaver theme is too old: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21
[08:34] <wxl> tl;dr rewriting it to make it pretty ended up making it insecure
[08:35] <wxl> THIS is a good read https://www.jwz.org/blog/2014/04/the-awful-thing-about-getting-it-right-the-first-time-is-that-nobody-realizes-how-hard-it-was/
[08:36] <RyuKurisu[m]> Do we have a stylesheet? 
[08:36] <wxl> jamie has went to ridiculous ends to ensure security. to change the look we want to put that at risk? and besides, don't we deserve him a little thanks via his logo?
[08:36] <wxl> you can change all sorts of colors and fonts as shown in that task where we actually changed it
[08:36] <wxl> there's lots of info in there on how to do so
[08:37] <wxl> besides, changing it literally requires recompiling it https://www.improbability.net/xss/ (this is unmaintained)
[08:38] <wxl> ((and incompatible with new versions))
[08:42] <RyuKurisu[m]> But do we have a stylesheet? 
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[12:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T181: GID/UID mismatch for users.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T181#4023
[17:10] <wxl> @RyuKurisu[m]: if you read what's there, it's apparent there's no stylesheet. hell, this all came before style sheets!
[17:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T181: GID/UID mismatch for users.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T181#4025
[17:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T140: Home page about us page blog template email optin placements] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T140#4030
[17:43] <wxl> ^ @tsimonq2 please reply back to that T140 ASAP. just needs your approval and i can move forward.
[17:43] <tsimonq2> Looking.
[17:43] <wxl> it's not urgent per se but i clearly dropped the ball on it and it's someone who wants to help in an area we desperately need it
[17:43] <tsimonq2> Ack, if he's still around and willing. :)
[17:43] <wxl> great thanks
[17:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T140: Home page about us page blog template email optin placements] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T140#4031
[17:48] <RyuKurisu[m]> <wxl "@RyuKurisu[m]: if you read what'"> I'm not asking is XScreenSaver had a stylesheet, but if Lubuntu has one, colour palette or anything.
[17:48] <wxl> RyuKurisu[m]: many moons ago when we had an actual artist doing design work for us, we did. now it's just chaos. we try to keep it blue and purple. XD
[17:49] <wxl> RyuKurisu[m]: that said, if you want to become the art director PLEASE DO!!!!! you are more than welcome to make these definitions for us
[17:49] <tsimonq2> Oh and while we're at it...
[17:49] <tsimonq2> LURKERS I SEE YOU! Reach out and become involved :)
[17:50] <wxl> says capt. idle himself XD
[17:50] <wxl> still, agreed X'''D
 *erases @tsimonq2 because of Simon being a hypocrite*
[17:51] <RikMills> 'capt. idle' LOL
[17:51] <wxl> so just to again put this on record, we could really really really really really use some consistent help in art/design. if anyone has any interest in this area, even if you have zero experience, you're likely better at it than we are, so please jump on in!
[17:51] <tsimonq2> That's MSG Idle to you 
[17:51] <wxl> mmmmmmmmmmmmm kay
[17:51] <tsimonq2> hah
 *tosses @tsimonq2 into the salt mines*
[17:52] <tsimonq2> I AM THE SALT MINES 
[17:56] <wxl> i think the bot just died again
[17:56] <wxl> lugito that is
 well i'm not surprised with all the POSTs its getting being beyond index ranges and the insane level of errors its' triggering
 probably overflowing xD
 the bot IS seeing my messages though
[18:02] <wxl> sounds like a problem with the bot
[18:02] <wxl> maybe we should discuss the problem with the developer
[18:02] <wxl> *AHEM*
 lol
[18:30] <wxl> hm we don't have a way to update cala and cala settings before installing, do we?
[19:08] <wxl> @kc2bez: i'm thinking the ultimate solution to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1908846 in focal is updating the release notes. interested in making that happen?
 Yes and no. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> hm we don't have a way to update cala and cala settings before installing, do we?)
[19:12] <wxl> ahahhaahh well played XD
 We could revive the SRU bug we had.
[19:14] <wxl> we had one?
 Simon did.
[19:14] <wxl> seems impractical
[19:14] <tsimonq2> What'd I do?
[19:14] <tsimonq2> Oh, yeah.
[19:14] <tsimonq2> That SRU bug I filed right before I went AFK for a month or two.
[19:14] <tsimonq2> Nice. :P
 Yeah, that one
[19:16] <wxl> so abucodonosor actually came up with a relatively good idea: start cala with a wrapper that first runs an update on cala and then runs it
 It needs a fixup though based on the changes aptghetto had
[19:17] <wxl> right, THAT would need to be SRU'd
[19:17] <wxl> but still it wouldn't be on the ISOs
[19:17] <wxl> they're not going to respin the ISOs for us
 It would be on the next point release though
[19:17] <wxl> which means we'd have to wait until the next point rleease
 which is RSN
[19:18] <wxl> so we still need to update the current releases' release notes
[19:18] <wxl> in the end my feeling is that it's way too much effort for such a small thing
 ok, fair enough
 I can edit the release notes
[19:19] <wxl> thank you :)
[19:19] <wxl> @kc2bez @tsimonq2 what do you think about the idea of running cala as a wrapper that updates cala and settings first?
 Which release notes should I be worrying about though
[19:20] <tsimonq2> That could be doable.
[19:20] <wxl> the two that are released
 ok
[19:20] <wxl> i'll make a task for the wrapper idea
[19:20] <wxl> thanks @kc2bez !
 Sure
[19:21] <wxl> if you want to follow through on that SRU, @tsimonq2 , feel free, but i think it's a waste of time, personally
[19:22] <wxl> @tsimonq2: if you do want to, this is the current bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1908846
 Where would we be pulling the updated cala and settings from?
[19:25] <wxl> the desktop entry exec change from running cala to running a script which checks for an internet connection and given that its there, runs an update and upgrade specifically on cala/settings, and then runs cala
[19:25] <wxl> does that make sense?
 I understand that part but will the update come from a ppa or the archive?
[19:26] <wxl> oh i'm thinking the archive
 So we would still need an SRU for that right?
[19:26] <wxl> it might be convenient to have it in a ppa but the SRU policy is there for a reason and i think it's wise to not circumvent it
 That makes sense
[20:43] <RyuKurisu[m]> <wxl "RyuKurisu: that said, if you wan"> I have no formal training in art, design or media, so don't have high hopes.  And I'm currently at home with burn-out symptoms, so taking on such a role right now might not be the best idea for me. 
[20:43] <wxl> @RyuKurisu[m]: can't blame me for trying :) hope you feel better
[20:45] <RyuKurisu[m]> I don't mind being a forerunner in the design section, or at least trying to get everything more consistent 🙂
[20:46] <RyuKurisu[m]> <wxl "RyuKurisu: many moons ago when w"> Do you happen to have the old stylesheet?  That might be a good departure point to get everything in line?
[20:46] <wxl> pretty much no one is doing anything on that front, so if you had interested in doing so, that would be fantastic
[20:48] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Marketing however you can see how it's changed over the years
[20:48] <RyuKurisu[m]> <wxl "so just to again put this on rec"> I do have interest, but maybe not the time to be available all the time/meetings
[20:49] <wxl> i guess what i'm saying is with no one working on it, you can just do it at your leisure with no expectations or requirements
[20:49] <RyuKurisu[m]> <tsimonq2 "That's MSG Idle to you "> MSG? 🧐
[20:53] <RyuKurisu[m]> <wxl "which means we'd have to wait un"> You shouldn't wait, but we'll have to wait once it is send upstream for it is in the Dot release 
[20:56] <lynorian> I hope you feel better ryukurisu[m]
[20:58] <RyuKurisu[m]> Thanks lynorian 🙂
[20:59] <RyuKurisu[m]> <wxl "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/"> I suddenly spot purple in the 14.04 release 🧐
[21:00] <tsimonq2> <RyuKurisu[m] "<tsimonq2 "That's MSG Idle to yo"> Master Sergeant 
[21:00] <tsimonq2> (Mind you, I have no clue what the significance of that is, it just sounds absurdly overkill.)
[21:01] <RyuKurisu[m]> <lynorian "I hope you feel better RyuKurisu"> I'm already home for about 2 months and I can't say the sudden 'hard lockdown' announced 3 weeks ago didn't really help.  I've got a 3.5 year old boy that is quite a handful 🥰
[21:02] <RyuKurisu[m]> <tsimonq2 "<RyuKurisu[m] "<tsimonq2 "That's"> I used to be general Idle, but I got demoted 😅
[21:21] <RyuKurisu[m]> * I used to be General Idle, but I got demoted 😅
[21:23] <RyuKurisu[m]> wxl reading through the wiki links, I notice the Ubuntu pages are almost 12 years old, or at least not edited that time 🙃
[21:24] <guiverc> RyuKurisu[m], https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180   (Cleanup Ubuntu Wiki)
[21:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Cleanup Ubuntu Wiki: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180
[21:24] <wxl> @RyuKurisu[m]: when we set up our phabricator instance we stopped bothering with the wiki and even before that there were many pages that were poorly maintained
[21:24] <wxl> i wll again reiterate we have LONG been without a consistent art/design person
 We mostly use the wiki in phabricator
[21:26] <RyuKurisu[m]> I was talking about the Ubuntu pages specifically, not Lubuntu
[21:26] <guiverc> sorry
[21:26] <RyuKurisu[m]> np o/
[21:27] <guiverc> o/
[21:27] <wxl> that's a bigger issue: the wiki software sucks and many folks got frustrated with it
[21:28] <RyuKurisu[m]> Moinmoin wiki?  I don't hate it, it's pretty nice when you get the hang of it
[21:28] <RyuKurisu[m]> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif/
[21:29] <RyuKurisu[m]> That is my page
[21:29] <wxl> as an example, try logging in. chances are you'll have to refresh 10-20 times before it actually goes through
[21:29] <wxl> and then there's the never-ending spam attacks
[21:29] <tsimonq2> Only that many?
[21:29] <wxl> and then there's the stupid proprietary markup language
[21:29] <wxl> ^ what he said
[21:47] <RyuKurisu[m]> <guiverc "RyuKurisu, https://phab.lubuntu."> The linked Google docs link has all Lubuntu links on wiki.ubuntu.com? 
 which Google docs link?
 there's been heavy work to migrate all wiki.u.c links to phab wiki pages
 but by no means are *all* updated, and if the gdoc is *old* then those links might not be up to date
 I remembered not liking the moinmoin format and the web editor being glacial for stuff
[21:49] <RyuKurisu[m]> https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSg6S8yAuNGwGPldCaayOnATk7Q-4IM7fDLumCqUy_klehOIgT6y25wRvQHqMHnUINIrIdPFDscJUmh/pub
[21:51] <RyuKurisu[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <teward001> which Goo"> ^
 i can read ;)
 my point was I think that the doc might be outdated
[21:51]  * RyuKurisu[m] is off to bed
[21:52] <RyuKurisu[m]> Good night everyone 
 given this in the end of the doc: <wxl> if anyone wants to make a project out of digging through the old wiki to see if there’s anything useful and transferring it over to phabricator, that would be great
[21:52] <RyuKurisu[m]> 😴😴😴
[22:03] <guiverc> RyuKurisu[m], No... the gdoc contained where I started from adding the redirects but mainly deprecated notices... it was more for me.. and I documented less as I went on .. 
[22:04] <guiverc> @teward001, the end of the doc led to https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180#
[22:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Open] Cleanup Ubuntu Wiki: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T180#
[22:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T184: create mechanism to update Calamares and settings before running] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T184
 guiverc: that I know
 but there's nothing in the doc that actually POINTS to that task
 so that's where users get 100% confused like in this case :P
[22:07] <wxl> @guiverc: this is a duplicate of that other bug, right? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1904974
[22:10] <guiverc> @teward001, yeah rather glaring oversight (missing link)
[22:11]  * guiverc looking for other report wxl
[22:14] <guiverc> sorry wxl, marking 1908846 duplicate of 1904974
[22:16] <wxl> thx guiverc 
[22:16] <wxl> is this still occurring? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1909622
[22:17] <guiverc> last I tested for it, yep.. can re-test if you like, but it ONLY occurs if calamares started as listed in text (not via desktop icon, not via Install.Lubuntu.20.10; only with "Install System" in menu
[22:18] <wxl> OH
[22:18] <guiverc> last occurrence was on 2021-10-04.1 ISO
[22:18] <kc2bez> That is the desktop file that Calamares provides. Not the one we do. wxl
[22:18] <wxl> that may not actually be an error
[22:18] <wxl> right
[22:19] <wxl> if `NotShowIn=LXQt` worked, i guess we could do that
[22:19] <wxl> meanwhile i guess i'm going to mark it as won't fix
[22:19] <wxl> it's kind of like issues with the default openbox session, it's not necessarily something we support
[22:19] <kc2bez> it is already patched to have that
[22:20] <wxl> we probably have aother bug somewhere then
[22:20] <kc2bez> if you look at the desktop file it has the Not show line
[22:21] <guiverc> fyi:  the install actually works; just errors implying it failed
 I just tested hirsute iso (todays) no error
 tested both desktop and menu
[22:22] <wxl> i think the key, @leokolb, is using the install icon that does NOT have lubuntu in it
[22:23] <kc2bez> That makes sense guiverc. the log file would be in root's home since we don't export to the local user like the other desktop file does. 
[22:24] <kc2bez> the log transfer is one of the final steps
[22:24] <guiverc> thanks kc2bez 
[22:24] <kc2bez> wxl: we patch the desktop file here https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares/browse/ubuntu%252Fgroovy/debian/patches/0001-replace-pkexec-by-sudo.patch$22
[22:25] <wxl> @kc2bez: i linked your upstream issue about NotShowIn misbehaving and explained
[22:25] <kc2bez> Well that is groovy but it is the same for Hirsute
[22:25] <kc2bez> thanks wxl and guiverc
 @wxl all 3 work for me.. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> i think the key, @leokolb, is using the install icon that does NOT have lubuntu in it)
[22:25] <wxl> well THAT's weird
[22:25] <wxl> but ok :)
[22:26] <kc2bez> ^
[22:26] <guiverc> I only mention having issues with BIOS boxes
[22:26] <wxl> i'm not too interested in going down that rabbit hole since we've kind of done everything we can
[22:26] <wxl> got a bug for me @guiverc ?
[22:27] <guiverc> nah , that comment was still on 1909622 or calamares error on "Install System"
[22:27] <wxl> oh ok
[22:27] <wxl> maybe that is strangely related? in any case, rabbit hole
[22:27] <guiverc> ack
[22:27] <wxl> i had enough of a rabbit hole trying to answer that no sound inquiry on disocurse XD
[22:27] <wxl> not to mention the darn sddm theme!!!!
[22:28] <wxl> oh shoot did i do the wrong bug?
[22:28] <wxl> i did ugh
 *hands wxl the "You Failed" star*
[22:30] <guiverc> Thanks @Loekolb, you picked up the non-BIOS testing I never got too, thank you !
 tks (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> Thanks @Loekolb, you picked up the non-BIOS testing I never got too, thank you !)
 /me pastes wxl's star to your check. (re @teward001: *hands wxl the "You Failed" star*)
 oopsies
 :P
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