 @pistolpete3058 [Well I mean standard Ubuntu works fine with touch screen computers, since the su …], I see the Surface more like a tablet and thought that I would prefer ubuntu touch for it
 Wouldn't recommend. It's supposed to operate as a desktop, not a tablet. It's a form factor computer designed to be an inbetween device
 But honestly, there's no hurt in trying.
 @pistolpete3058 [But honestly, there's no hurt in trying.], I've heard that the kernel sources for microsoft custom cpu are very locked which make it almost very hard to make a custom os for the pro x 😢
 What a pain
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/m0IAp76v.mp4
 @E552562 [I've heard that the kernel sources for microsoft custom cpu are very locked whic …], yeah you would need at least the kernel sources, if ubuntu works i think you find a way to get UT to work on it tbh
 it's the one with a custom qualcomm SOC , right? … do linux dekstop distros even work on it?
 Again I see broken vertical/horizontal mode in v.92 (rc)...
 @C0n57an71n [Might be waaay too expensive. Volla Phone maybe?], I think a second hand essential phone is nice
 or pixel 4a
 not the 5g bs
 @ziomkokot [I tried 10.0.8 firmware Android9) and UBPorts  recommended version can NOT be in …], Yeah I am aware it, I am looking at it
 @ziomkokot [I tried 10.0.8 firmware Android9) and UBPorts  recommended version can NOT be in …], [Edit] Yeah I am aware of it, I am looking at it
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 My redmi 4x stuck in bootloop
 Doesn't turning on
 @suriyaprasanth [My redmi 4x stuck in bootloop], What happens when you press Vol- and Power simultaneous?
 (Video, 41s) https://irc.ubports.com/TpAaA1Zv.mp4
 Fastboot mode
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/H1h04rNB.png
 WTF?!
 How do I build by phone device tree
 is that normal? :)))))))))))
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/KXz1WqsJ.webp
 @C0n57an71n [is that normal? :)))))))))))], I don't know
 @Master_Technolgy [How do I build by phone device tree], I don't understand the question...
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/T0c4qEih.webp
 @C0n57an71n [I don't understand the question...], My phone don't have device tree to create a custom rom it only have port roms
 Error: unhandled rejection at [object Promise]: Error: {"error":{"code":4294967295,"cmd":"C:\Users\suri\AppData\Local\Temp\1mh11UV943ySIxyU7RPFgFiB4W8\resources\app.asar.unpacked\node_modules\android-tools-bin\dist\win32\x86\adb.exe -P 5037 start-server"},"stderr":"* daemon not running; starting now at tcp:5037\r\ncould not read ok
[10:38] <ubptgbot>  from ADB Server\r\n* failed to start daemon\r\nerror: cannot connect to daemon"}
 what does this error mean11?
 [Edit] what does this error mean?
 @Master_Technolgy [My phone don't have device tree to create a custom rom it only have port roms], what phone do you have?
 @C0n57an71n [what phone do you have?], Samsung galaxy A8 plus ds … 6GB ram … 64GB storage … Exynos 7885
 @Master_Technolgy [Samsung galaxy A8 plus ds … 6GB ram … 64GB storage … Exynos 7885], You want to port UT yourself or somebody had already done it?
 @C0n57an71n [You want to port UT yourself or somebody had already done it?], No I want to know how to build device tree
 @Master_Technolgy [No I want to know how to build device tree], @Flohack You're the Samsung wizzard, could you share your thought?
 @C0n57an71n [@Flohack You're the Samsung wizzard, could you share your thought?], UT needs device tree or not
 @Master_Technolgy [UT needs device tree or not], Is your phone running android 9?
 @ItsMeShouko [Is your phone running android 9?], Yes
 @ItsMeShouko [Is your phone running android 9?], Launched with 7.1.1
 @Master_Technolgy [Launched with 7.1.1], Check first if your device supports project treble
 @suriyaprasanth [Error: unhandled rejection at [object Promise]: Error: {"error":{"code":42949672 …], what happens when from the fastboot mode you choose the recovery mode?
 @ItsMeShouko [Check first if your device supports project treble], I have trebled it already
 you can choose it with the Volume keys
 @Master_Technolgy [I have trebled it already], Have you checked?
 @ItsMeShouko [Have you checked?], Yes
 The phone with stock firmware didn't have project treble
 @Master_Technolgy [The phone with stock firmware didn't have project treble], So stock 9 does not support it?
 @ItsMeShouko [So stock 9 does not support it?], Yes
 Will samsung open source code help
 @Master_Technolgy [Yes], It seems some 3rd party dev treblized the device. In that case try using that custom vendor to port UT
 @ItsMeShouko [It seems some 3rd party dev treblized the device. In that case try using that cu …], How bro
 You will need still need at least kernel tree
 And also I want it for other roms
 @ItsMeShouko [You will need still need at least kernel tree], Hmm
 [Edit] You will still need at least kernel tree
 Will that help … https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://github.com/SiddhantNaik1731/universal7885&ved=2ahUKEwj1yMe004nuAhVqSBUIHVs_AVUQFjABegQIBxAC&usg=AOvVaw2yD0lNVJQM-HD0wlGr9prl
 Apart from that device tree is required to get OTAs enabled afaik
 @Master_Technolgy [Will that help … https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://gith …], Head over to porting group
 Ok
 @ItsMeShouko [Head over to porting group], Are u there too
 @C0n57an71n [@Flohack You're the Samsung wizzard, could you share your thought?], I strongly recommend only trying to port devices with existing LineageOS sources, they are of good quality and most promising
 We cannot support all the thousands of device types existing by now
 And yes, UT needs kernel, device and also sometimes vendor repo to build
 Except fpr newer GSI compatible models
 @Flohack [And yes, UT needs kernel, device and also sometimes vendor repo to build], I am crushed
 Well deal with it, its a complex technology, we are already happy it works for some devices ;)
 @Flohack [Well deal with it, its a complex technology, we are already happy it works for s …], You are right at least it work
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 Hello guys, are there any chances the galaxy s9 is going to get a port of ubports
 ?
 depends on whether someone who owns a s9 is willing to port
 if you're interested in porting we have documentation for it at docs.ubports.com/porting
 many porters have started with zero experience
 hi! Where best do i get pinepro pc ? … Thanks : )
 uh on pine64's website?
 @MARriya888 [hi! Where best do i get pinepro pc ? … Thanks : )], https://pine64.com/?v=0446c16e2e66
 @C0n57an71n [what happens when from the fastboot mode you choose the recovery mode?], It worked for me.
 After some several reboots it's ok
 How do I install telegram  on ubuntu phone
 teleports is the native telegram client
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 wtf
 Is it a phone problem or a system problem? … PS I lost the video, the moment
 (Video, 25s) https://irc.ubports.com/08tGwBBd.mp4
 Slimport
 hard to say. could be lots of things
 hdmi cable, hdmi ports, slimport adapter, or usb port issues could cause problems. or could theoretically be a software issue. but can't say definitively from that
 It's definitely not the hdmi cable and port.
 The problem is not constant, I think it's in the adapter
 I think that's a common issue which I encountered many times on my Nexus 5
 did you connect power?
 @Javacookies [did you connect power?], Yes, but also without nothing works and sometimes glitches and sometimes not
 this is only a guess, but I think sometimes the power isn't enough so the connection isn't stable. In my experience, it seems to be the combinatiion of HDMI, slimport and monitor
 @Javacookies [this is only a guess, but I think sometimes the power isn't enough so the connec …], 2 amp supply
 I've had many slimport adapters and nothiing really lasted long and most of the time connection is indeed unstable
 that's uh an unfortunate zoom :x … ohw yeah i was going to look into how to adjust where it zooms to 🤔 i better log this somewhere before i forget again
 interestingly, I now have 2 slimport adapters that works quite stable on my monitor and projector. I think could also be a problem with the nexus 5 port. My unstable experience was with my old Nexus 5
 [Edit] interestingly, I now have 2 slimport adapters that works quite stable on my monitor and projector. I think it could also be a problem with the nexus 5 port. My unstable experience was with my old Nexus 5
 I'm thinking of going back to android and see if that helps
 @Javacookies [interestingly, I now have 2 slimport adapters that works quite stable on my moni …], I've tweaked all the wires, it doesn't affect the work
 yeah, worth a try and see
 @Gud_kom_fra_vest [I've tweaked all the wires, it doesn't affect the work], sometimes it's just how the micro USB male fits into the female port (trying to be mature 😆)
 one of my Nexus 5 only charges with one specific micro USB cable I have
 The system also dies if you try to open some applications full screen
 @Javacookies [sometimes it's just how the micro USB male fits into the female port (trying to …], pfff just say how the micro usb plug fits in the ports xD
 @Fuseteam [pfff just say how the micro usb plug fits in the ports xD], sorry, English isn't my native tongue 😝
 @Javacookies [sorry, English isn't my native tongue 😝], neither is it mine appearantly 😂
 @C0n57an71n [https://pine64.com/?v=0446c16e2e66], Hi Guys thanks … this Chromebook is a complete pc ? … when will it be shipped / expected ? since it states "pre order" … and … would the Ubuntu touch OTA-15 be as a complete pc  features ?
 what do you mean by complete pc?
 i don't think the pinebook pro is a chromebook either
 (Photo, 576x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/hkLIoEem.png
 @MARriya888 [Hi Guys thanks … this Chromebook is a complete pc ? … when will it be shipped / expe …], 1. Ask PINE64 about PINE64 products, this group isn't PINE64 related … 2. Ubuntu Touch is a phone/tablet OS, not a "complete PC" OS
 @dohbee [what do you mean by complete pc?], that it's features are alike a pc.
 @MARriya888 [<reply to media>], it can be used like a desktop but not yet with the same features per se
 android has a lot of features like a pc even. but if you are expecting the same experience you get with windows or your favorite linux distro on a PC, you will be disappointed
 it's still limited to what you can do with it as a phone … just that the interface scales on a large screen and with kb/mouse
 @alan_griffiths [1. Ask PINE64 about PINE64 products, this group isn't PINE64 related … 2. Ubuntu T …], Ty. … It's because of domeinen here might know.
 domeinen = some one here
 ubuntu touch does not have a pinebook pro image afaik
 only pinephone and pinetab
 questions about pinebook pro are best asked in the pine64 groups
 @MARriya888 [<reply to media>], this indicates: a phone with this technical feature this group is developing … can work as a pc, right ? TY!
 this group is about https://ubuntu-touch.io yes
 @dohbee [questions about pinebook pro are best asked in the pine64 groups], on telegram ? … Thanks I'll search : )
 there is a generic amd64 qemu image build, which can theoretically be run on a PC similar to running UT on phones/tablets, but again it is not a traditional linux distro and if you are expecting a traditional linux distro experience, you will be disappointed
 @the moment i only have smartphone..
 I found pine64 news
 (Photo, 419x658) https://irc.ubports.com/8J0yNyRu.png
 @alan_griffiths [1. Ask PINE64 about PINE64 products, this group isn't PINE64 related … 2. Ubuntu T …], i mean what is a "complete pc", convergence should mean it will eventually be usable on the desktop, no? :p
 @alan_griffiths [1. Ask PINE64 about PINE64 products, this group isn't PINE64 related … 2. Ubuntu T …], [Edit] i mean what is a "complete pc"? convergence should mean it will eventually be usable on the desktop, no? :p
 @MARriya888 [that it's features are alike a pc.], what features do you mean?
 @Fuseteam [i mean what is a "complete pc"? convergence should mean it will eventually be us …], Convergence means that convergent apps work across form factors and a convergent shell works across form factors. So suitable apps and Lomiri would work across form factors. … At that point Ubuntu Touch will still be a phone OS with comp
[16:16] <ubptgbot> onents that work across form factors. The expectations of PC Linux are somewhat different.
 i mean if Ubuntu Touch has components that works accross form factors you could technically install it on PC. i'm somewhat curious what the expectation of PC would be
 i suspect for PC linux it has to do with cli packagemanager support, but it is that the only thing?
 [Edit] i suspect for PC linux it has to do with cli packagemanager support, but it is that the only expectation that would disappoint? (and i guess existing binary packages wouldn't work either)
 well I think some desktop designs and use cases don't really fit on  a mobile phone. But to me the ultimate goal is still that. Your phone doing everything your PC can do software-wise
 i am more referring to installing UT on a desktop pc btw readonly rootfs an all
 [Edit] i am more referring to installing UT on a desktop pc btw readonly rootfs 'n all
 well that would still be the same
 same as in "some use cases not fitting"?
 [Edit] same as in "some use cases not fitting" or.....
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 Hello, is there a way to compile Ubuntu touch from source, to align with my unsupported device. Its tecno La7. Any response will be appreciated
 @Fuseteam [same as in "some use cases not fitting" or.....], I mean installing UT on a desktop and running it on a phone is the same
 @Javacookies [I mean installing UT on a desktop and running it on a phone is the same], so it won't fit "some usecases" 🤔
 @gerie_reveur [Hello, is there a way to compile Ubuntu touch from source, to align with my unsu …], something like that, here's a link that explains the actual process: https://docs.ubports.com/porting
 Hello everyone I'm trying to sideload recommended Android 9 update and it loads about 50% before erroring due to missing driver
 Any thoughts?
 Xiaomi mi a2
 side load? how are you doing that?
 What is the error you get?
 Because the ota updates to and10
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 Command line quits the process and phone errors driver missing or not existing (both windows and linix Ubuntu and debian
 can you post the error?
 That is difficult to do as I cannot screenshot anything while I'm in recovery mode what I'll try to do is today when I'll try it again I will take a picture of it
 I will try it now
 Give me a few minutes it doesn't take long
 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc.ubports.com/R03v19dL.png
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/aNxH7zYq.png
 @ziomkokot [Xiaomi mi a2], please pm me
 dont know how
 pm
 pm= personal message
 [Edit] pm = personal message
 @ItsMeShouko [please pm me], how
 @ziomkokot [pm], @shoukolab
 never mind just join
 @alan_griffiths [Convergence means that convergent apps work across form factors and a convergent …], tbf, technically speaking a smartphone is a personal computer; just not one which follows legacy design thinking that people have been conditioned to expect from a computer
 @djsoyboi [now I never buying a non google device], Tbf Google are just as bad
 @amyosx [Tbf Google are just as bad], it is
 @Fuseteam [something like that, here's a link that explains the actual process: https://doc …], Thanks a lot, now I'll start working on the port, I'll notify the group of any advancements
 smart phone os is heavily dependent on the app
 it is a bundle deal
 Of course. Either Ubuntu Touch meets your needs or it does not. If it does not, we can work toward a solution that meets those unmet needs.
 ut itself is a decent os
 please evangelize to all the services who don't provide their apps for UT, nor APIs for third parties to develop them
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 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/gabfvTPW.webp
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 Please bring Ubuntu Touch for Oppo A3S device. Excited to use it
 someone who owns the device has to do the port, assuming it can be unlocked and ported at all
 Recently I installed phoenix (android) windows based application for dual boot with windows, such a simple
 @dohbee [tbf, technically speaking a smartphone is a personal computer; just not one whic …], tbh i am  think if it's "just" the expectation of a "running legacy applications" it should be too hard to meet those expectations with a package manager that expects a ro rootfs :p
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/izmpEPqf.apk
 this isn't the place for sharing apks
 By the time  this one from git hub quiet good
 we use ubuntu touch we can't use apks
 if you have github link that would be better but it's offtopic in the end
 [Edit] if you have github link maybe you can share and talk about it in @ubportsof
 Embedded Linux is not limited to phone
 and now i'm confused
 please don't post off topic things here @RAJVMEHTA
 this group is about Ubuntu Touch and UBports, not about android or other linux distros
 Ok..
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 Sometimes my alarm is inaudible or becomes inaudible after a few seconds. Could someone give me a hint which log to check to debug this issue?
 this is a really weird issue i saw it once or twice but not sure what triggers it
 the first step to debugging the issue is usually trying to reproduce it as that could hint which log files we need
 (Photo, 1280x958) https://irc.ubports.com/fRF5aChK.png
 (Photo, 1280x958) https://irc.ubports.com/I8tzSxZY.png
 Finally got the equipment for making my new Nexus 5 work on the TV!
 Is there any way of having more than one app open at the same time?
 Nice!
 @xander2m [Is there any way of having more than one app open at the same time?], it should switch to windowed mode when you connect the external display i thought
 but you can toggle it in the session indicator too (the gear in the top right)
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/M2dZBHsL.png In here?
 Oh desktop mode 😂
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/ki48s6BO.png Sorted!
 yes :P
 Have you noticed that for other devices - UT media device? I can play music on my iphone and it will play through the Nexus speaker. If the speaker(bluetooth) is connected to the Nexus, it will play music on it.
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/4Vdz4B4S.png
 I went for the direct input method! 😂
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[22:08] <ubptgbot> <Ritchie Z> @xander2m [<reply to media>], How well does it perform? What type of slimport adapter did you use?
 Good morning everyone, from Australia. mrlen here :)
 Just joined telegram! 😎
 @triorbit [Good morning everyone, from Australia. mrlen here :)], Welcome
 @Ritchie Z [How well does it perform? What type of slimport adapter did you use?], Works great. It's like using a desktop version of Ubuntu / Ubuntu Touch. I just got a slimport lead from eBay and hooked it up to a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse from Amazon. I made sure I picked one that supports android and pc so I was confident that it w
[22:46] <ubptgbot> ould connect cos I read some people had difficulties. But worked first time.
 @triorbit [Good morning everyone, from Australia. mrlen here :)], Good night from here!
[22:50] <ubptgbot> <Ritchie Z> @xander2m [Works great. It's like using a desktop version of Ubuntu / Ubuntu Touch. I just …], Thank you for your reply! I have always wanted to try it, but was discouraged by some forum posts saying that it is buggy, because it doesn't receive focus in the development. Next time I decide to install UB touch on my nexus 5, I will buy an
[22:50] <ubptgbot>  adaptet and try it as well. :)
 Well I bought the phone and everything over the last few weeks because I wanted to try it on the big screen (can we say convergence?! 😂) but it worked just fine for me. Obviously it's not as feature packed as a full Linux distro but so far so good.
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[23:04] <ubptgbot> <Hand Feger> so what kind of connection hardware do you use to connect the phone with a bigger screen? … does it support a miracast connection?
 Slimport to hdmi adapter. It has a micro usb charging capability too.
 Not sure about Miracast. I havent Seen that setting on my phone
[23:27] <ubptgbot> <Hand Feger> thx! already started my search for an adapter on sale.
 my note 4 does that, but it requires an 11-pin micro usb to HDMI, its weird but works
 also allows me to use USB devices while connected to the bugger screen
 [Edit] also allows me to use USB devices while connected to the bigger screen