[00:48] <mwhudson> does anyone remember how to simulate multipath in a vm?
[00:50] <sarnold> my first guess is iscsi on the host, perhaps with two IP addresses?
[00:54] <mwhudson> hmm i think you can do it more simply than that
[00:55] <sarnold> that'd be nice :) it didn't sound fun when I typed it
[09:08] <Laney> tdaitx: hmm, is this bug about alternate dependencies?
[09:09] <Laney> like, if we installed the openjdk-N instead of the default one, would that be a sensible thing?
[16:04] <tdaitx> Laney: well, yeah, that feel like a bug that should be fixed, but apart from that for openjdk we really only want to trigger for the openjdk uploads set in default-jdk/-jre
[16:06] <Laney> because... you don't care if they break stuff or?
[18:01] <doko> Laney: how would you know if they break stuff? you're not testing with it
[18:04] <Laney> doko: Question previously was about installing that one
[18:05] <doko> that's a bogus question, depending on how you configure via update-java-alternatives
[18:22] <Laney> I feel like there should be a way to get the triggering one and only the triggering one installed and used and this would be better if we can manage to figure out how to do it
[22:12] <smoser> i'm clearly doing something wrong.  calling debootstrap like this.
[22:12] <smoser> DEBOOTSTRAP_DIR=$PWD ./debootstrap --verbose --verbose --keyring=/tmp/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg --arch=amd64 --extra-suites="focal-updates" "--components=main,universe" focal /tmp/root
[22:13] <smoser> and it dies with "Retrying failed download of http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/focal/main/binary-amd64/Packages.xz"
[22:13] <smoser> but if i drop the '--extra-suites" it works fine.
[22:13] <smoser> so i'm guessing I'm doing that wrong.
[22:13] <smoser> but how am I supposed to accomplish that?
[22:17] <sarnold> smoser: that may require a different tool, eg https://gitlab.mister-muffin.de/josch/mmdebstrap/  "security and updates mirror included for Debian stable chroots"
[22:21] <smoser> sarnold: well i'd never heard of that thing.
[22:21] <smoser> that is a heck of a  sales pitch though
[22:21] <smoser> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | mmdebstrap > unstable-chroot.tar
[22:25] <smoser> but surely there is a way to do that, why else would it have those options?
[22:25] <sarnold> I wondered the same thing, I thought perhaps it's more intended for an "overlay" kind of thing with unrelated packages .. that's just wild guessing, though
[22:26] <sarnold> I see mmdebstrap mentioned in the various debian channels every week or two, usually with a "wow that's a lot faster" :)