[01:08] <guiverc> What is the current 20.04/focal kernel?  isn't it still 5.4  (my focal system sees only that.. but I'm seeing numerous support queries (askubu) on 5.8, Marius (9to5) says 5.8 for 20.04 (I think in error)...
[01:09]  * guiverc Marius Nestor; 9to5 Linux recent article
[01:17] <sarnold> guiverc: a 5.4 kernel is the main kernel, there's also a 5.8 hwe kernel https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe-5.8
[01:18] <guiverc> i realize it's available... it was main (default) kernel i was interested in..  Thank you sarnold !
[01:19] <guiverc> (a bit early for 20.04.2 & 5.8 kernel)
[01:19] <sarnold> guiverc: when 20.04.2 is released, desktops will default to the hwe kernel, I don't recall what the .1 release did, but it was probably the main kernel
[01:19] <sarnold> exactly :)
[01:19] <Bashing-om> guiverc: "sysop@2004x-c:~$ uname -r >> 5.4.0-59-generic" .
[01:19] <guiverc> thanks sysop, I mean Bashing-om
[01:20] <Bashing-om> :P
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> good morning
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[03:58] <guiverc> I'm still seeing focal users reporting 5.8.0-39 kernels (groovy); none give their mirrors so I wonder if a mirror has stuffed an a change to their script?
[04:01] <Bashing-om> !info linux-generic-hwe-20.04
[04:01] <ubot5> 'focal' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed
[04:02] <Bashing-om> !info linux-generic-hwe-18.04
[04:02] <ubot5> 'focal' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed
[04:02] <Bashing-om> !info linux-generic-hwe-18.04 bionic
[04:02] <ubot5> linux-generic-hwe-18.04 (source: linux-meta-hwe-5.4): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0.59.65~18.04.54 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 13 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; s390x)
[04:03] <sarnold> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe-5.8
[04:03] <Bashing-om> !info linux-generic-hwe-20.04 focal
[04:03] <ubot5> 'focal' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed
[04:07] <guiverc> looks like ubot5 needs update so it knows focal, groovy, hirsute
[04:08] <Bashing-om> guiverc: I take it more that there is no hwe kewrnel yet for focal ?
[04:09] <guiverc> yeah maybe that's it... it'll get groovy/5.8 at 20.04.2
[04:09] <guiverc> feb-11 I think is scheduled date (ISO anyway; installs get it days before)
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[06:00] <ducasse> good morning
[07:01] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:12] <guiverc> Maik, fyi: I"ve read a few questions on askubu today about 5.8 coming out in daily (normal) upgrades on 20.04/focal.  I wonder if a mirror has done something weird... I can't find flaw
[09:16] <Maik> guiverc: weird stuff going on then. Someone still having a hangover messing up the mirrors? :-D
[09:17] <guiverc> :)
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[17:41] <lotuspsychje> few interesting bugs on -announce for that 5.8 issue
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> bug #1910572
[17:41] <ubot5> bug 1910572 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "Ugprading to 5.8.0-34-generic kernel broke wifi (BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter [14e4:43b1] (rev 03))" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1910572
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> bug #1910555
[17:41] <ubot5> bug 1910555 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "Driver build error on kernel 5.8, but works on 5.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1910555
[17:46] <oerheks> it must be HWE, as i did not recieve 5.8 today
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> guiverc mentioned kernel issues this morning
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> but not sure yet whats it about
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> i recently installed HWE edge on a box to fix a 5.4 bug, that gave me 5.8
[17:51] <daftykins> no focal servers are seeing anything 5.8 for me, so i smell user fault
[17:53] <Maik> daftykins: multiple users reported about 5.8 coming in with regular updates on askubuntu as guiverc mentioned earlier today
[17:54] <Maik> i also pointed out that i didn't get the 5.8 kernel and am on 5.4
[17:54] <Maik> still they say they got 5.8
[17:54] <daftykins> yes i gather that much
[17:55] <Maik> not sure what's happening
[17:55] <Maik> could it be backports?
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> i checked the recent kernels bugs, but didnt find anything
[17:56] <daftykins> a package they have would have to explicitly be pulling in the HWE kernel
[17:56] <daftykins> or they would have had to have instructed their system to install it, mistakenly
[18:33] <jeremy31> I saw the 5.8 get installed on a fresh 20.04 install yesterday
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> aha
[18:34] <jeremy31> I haven't looked to see why
[18:55] <oerheks> ah, fresh installs could explain it
[18:55] <oerheks> i did upgrade
[18:55] <oerheks> same with 18.0.1 new installs..
[19:19] <daftykins> jeremy31: via which media?
[19:19] <daftykins> so could be ubiquity's little auto kernel updater to blame perhaps?
[21:53] <jeremy31> daftykins:  it was an old ISO on USB, not even a point release
[21:54] <daftykins> hrmm
[22:00] <jeremy31> File used had date of 24 April 2020