[14:45] <luna_> Hello! Are we having a translators meeting in 15 minutes? as https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue664 says today or not ?
[15:13] <luna_> yep its today
[15:39] <JawnSmith> Registration test msg
[15:41] <Maik> JawnSmith: nick registration?
[15:42] <Maik> you can check that with /msg Nickserv info yournickname
[15:43] <JawnSmith> Thanks Maik. I had checked but wanted to be extra sure that people were able to see my messages.
[15:44] <Maik> JawnSmith: if you can join a channel which requires registration it should be fine
[15:45] <bdmurray> I believe this channel allows anyone to join but not "talk".
[15:45] <JawnSmith> That is what I was told as well, so I wanted to make sure I could talk
[15:46] <Maik> :)
[16:00] <slyon> o/
[16:00] <bdmurray> #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team
[16:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jan  7 16:00:21 2021 UTC.  The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[16:00] <rbalint> o/
[16:00] <bdmurray> #topic Lightning Round
[16:00] <bdmurray> echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint mwhudson juliank waveform slyon jawnsmith)
[16:00] <sil2100> o/
[16:01] <bdmurray> mwhudson juliank doko rbalint vorlon sil2100 bdmurray tdaitx jawnsmith waveform slyon xnox
[16:01] <bdmurray> juliank: it's your turn
[16:01] <juliank> I'm finishing apt features for 2.2 (phased updates, more patterns, new kernel autoremover)
[16:01] <juliank> Some discussions about grub +  oem stuff
[16:01] <juliank> and that's it
[16:01] <juliank> (done)
[16:02] <bdmurray> doko:
[16:02] <doko>  - two days +1 maintenance
[16:02] <doko>  - test rebuilds, communicated results
[16:02] <doko>  - no progress towards outstanding test rebuilds this week, buildds busy
[16:02] <doko>  - analyzing ftbfs for the gcc-11 test rebuild, reducing and forwarding upstream
[16:02] <doko>  - looking at LLVM 11 regression on armhf
[16:02] <doko>  - started to analyze issues with the lto test rebuild
[16:02] <doko>  - testing and reporting GCC 11 build issues on armhf, amd64 and s390x.
[16:02] <doko> (done)
[16:03] <rbalint> * opened LP: #1910222
[16:03] <rbalint> * hints with bugs for false glibc-triggered regressions
[16:03] <rbalint> * proposed a solution for LP: #1627564 which got reported again against unattended-upgrades
[16:03] <rbalint> (done)
[16:03] <bdmurray> vorlon:
[16:03] <vorlon>  * happy new year!
[16:03] <vorlon>  * some SRU reviews
[16:03] <vorlon>  * doing various TIL merges
[16:03] <vorlon>  * +1 maintenance today/tomorrow
[16:03] <vorlon> (done)
[16:04] <bdmurray> sil2100: tell us everything you've done in 1 day
[16:04] <sil2100> Ah!
[16:04] <sil2100> Yes, just got back, so reading backlog, adjusting to the new reality and SRU reviews + releases
[16:05] <sil2100> (done)
[16:05] <bdmurray> bdmurray:
[16:05] <bdmurray> discussed cassandra deletion of EoL releases RT with IS
[16:05] <bdmurray> uploaded tzdata 2020f for Hirsute and SRUs (LP: #1909698)
[16:05] <bdmurray> verified the above SRUs
[16:05] <bdmurray> working on Error Tracker upgrade to Bionic
[16:05] <bdmurray> researched LP: #1908147, submitted a charmhelper PR to fix it
[16:05] <bdmurray> mentoring a new team member
[16:05] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[16:05] <tdaitx> * Updated openjdk to 8u282-b07 and 11.0.10+8
[16:05] <tdaitx>   - aarch64 repo outdated on 8u282-b03 (b04 update only happened this morning)
[16:05] <tdaitx>   - some zero/aarch64 updates got to 8u282 upstream, adjusted patches
[16:05] <tdaitx> * investigated bug 1903929 (default-jdk/-jre rev-deps triggering autopkgtests for other openjdk uploads)
[16:05] <tdaitx>   - some only trigger for openjdk-8 and openjdk-11
[16:05] <tdaitx>   - all of them install and run using openjdk-11 (the default-jdk) even when triggered by an openjdk-14/-15/-16 upload
[16:05] <tdaitx> * catching up emails
[16:05] <tdaitx> Other:
[16:05] <tdaitx> - +1 maintenance this Monday/Tuesday, let me know if there's something I should focus on in particular
[16:05] <tdaitx> - got 80+ avg load trying to build 2 openjdk pkgs simultaneously, definitely not enough ram for that
[16:06] <tdaitx> (done)
[16:06] <bdmurray> trying to deploy the mojo spec locally is no fun either
[16:06] <bdmurray> JawnSmith:
[16:06] <xnox> UTF-8 allowed
[16:07] <JawnSmith> Working on LP: #1902025
[16:07] <JawnSmith> New hire stuff
[16:07] <JawnSmith> Created merge proposal
[16:07] <JawnSmith> (done)
[16:07] <bdmurray> waveform:
[16:07] <tdaitx> new hire -> drinking from the firehose
[16:07] <waveform> * Happy new lockdown^Wyear!
[16:07] <waveform> * Another u-boot fix (LP: #1910094)
[16:07] <waveform> * Re-based SRUs for LP: #1906552 and LP: #1906551 and cherry-picked above fix onto them
[16:07] <waveform> * Investigating netplan issue on first boot of pi focal image
[16:07] <waveform> * Various Pi planning meetings
[16:07] <waveform> (done)
[16:08] <slyon> - First +1 maintenance shift (Wed+Thu)
[16:08] <slyon>   * getting into the tasks, reading docs
[16:08] <slyon>   * triggered some version=unknown tests
[16:08] <slyon> - Fixed epubcheck FTBFS, forwarded to Debian
[16:08] <slyon> - Fixed s390-tools FTBFS, forwarded upstream, bug #1907789
[16:08] <slyon> - Investigated iotjs s390x FTBFS, bug reported upstream
[16:08] <slyon> - Adopted netplan.io tests for new openvswitch
[16:08] <slyon> [16:08] <slyon> - Reviewed & Merged PR#180 (docs update), bug #1909114
[16:08] <slyon> - Fixed wifi hotspot mode for legacy nms-netplan-plugin
[16:08] <slyon> - Working on new NetworkManager backend & keyfile fallback
[16:08] <slyon> - Working on SRU verification for Groovy & Focal, bug #1908509
[16:08] <slyon> (done)
[16:08] <bdmurray> xnox:
[16:08] <xnox> 🎆 🎇 🎆 Happy new year 🎆 🎇 🎆
[16:08] <xnox> uploading FTBFS for boost transition
[16:08] <xnox> grub2 migrated in hirsute, building/testing all the things for it (cd-boot-images, cloud-images, stuck ubuntu-cdimage, etc)
[16:08] <xnox> working on u-boot SRUs for all the things (mostly sponsoring)
[16:08] <xnox> more grub2 srus to do
[16:08] <xnox> done
[16:09] <tdaitx> I don't have the right font for that utf-8
[16:09] <bdmurray> Any questions on status?
[16:09] <bdmurray> we are going to switch things up and look at proposed migration first
[16:09] <bdmurray> vorlon:
[16:10] <vorlon> [LINK] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
[16:10] <vorlon> lintian: blocked by MIR on discount still
[16:10] <vorlon> mclemenceau: did you want to give any update on that?
[16:10] <vorlon> gpgme1.0 has revdep autopkgtest regressions.  bdmurray, can you take?
[16:11] <bdmurray> yes
[16:11] <vorlon> pyparted has revdep autopkgtest regressions. xnox: ?
[16:11] <xnox> yes
[16:12] <vorlon> openssl, x11vnc autopkgtest regression; rbalint anything special about getting this to pass for glibc?
[16:12] <rbalint> vorlon, will look at those
[16:13] <vorlon> rbalint: ok - I did just retrigger fwiw
[16:13] <rbalint> vorlon, i'm working upwards from focal's glibc :-)
[16:13] <vorlon> python-apt vs u-r-u: juliank is this still you?
[16:13] <juliank> I need to give u-r-u another round of fixes
[16:13] <juliank> yes
[16:13] <vorlon> ok
[16:13] <vorlon> devscripts regresses its own autopkgtests. sil2100: ?
[16:14] <rbalint> vorlon, it is on my plate
[16:14] <vorlon> rbalint: devscripts is?
[16:14] <rbalint> vorlon, yes, carded
[16:15] <vorlon> ok
[16:15] <vorlon> cmake vs lucene++: sil2100: ?
[16:15]  * sil2100 dodged a bullet
[16:15] <sil2100> ...or not
[16:15] <sil2100> Ok o/
[16:15] <sil2100> ;)
[16:15] <vorlon> python-cups vs cups: doko: ?
[16:16] <vorlon> init-system-helpers is libpod again, so maybe it makes sense for bdmurray to take this one in addition to gpgme1.0
[16:16] <vorlon> libjsoncpp is a transition; I'll look at this as part of +1 maintenance
[16:16] <bdmurray> okay
[16:16] <doko> vorlon: sorry, not this week
[16:17] <doko> can try on Monday
[16:17] <vorlon> doko: Monday is fine
[16:17] <vorlon> glibc: rbalint, you're working through this?  do you want to delegate any of these to someone else?
[16:18] <rbalint> vorlon, no, i'm fine with those, thanks
[16:18] <vorlon> ok
[16:18] <vorlon> libdaemon listed there is actually me causing an autopkgtest progression by fixing i386 (oops), retriggering
[16:19] <vorlon> libsigsegv: slyon?
[16:19] <slyon> vorlon: sure!
[16:19] <vorlon> debhelper: tdaitx?
[16:19] <tdaitx> vorlon: ack
[16:19] <doko> vorlon: no, just ignore
[16:19] <vorlon> doko: ignore debhelper?
[16:20] <doko> dh-python
[16:20] <vorlon> ok
[16:20] <vorlon> tdaitx: glib2.0, then?
[16:20] <tdaitx> heh, ok
[16:21] <vorlon> erlang vs sonic-pi: it has pi in the name, so, waveform ?
[16:21] <waveform> vorlon, heh - okay
[16:21] <vorlon> :)
[16:21] <rbalint> acpi
[16:21] <vorlon> doko: is python3-stdlib-extensions vs python3.8 something that needs looked at, or are you handling?
[16:21] <vorlon> rbalint: hahaha
[16:22] <doko> needs removal. will have a look
[16:22] <vorlon> doko: ta
[16:22] <vorlon> doko: what about python3-defaults?
[16:23] <vorlon> tcltk-defaults falls to rbalint (x11vnc)
[16:23] <doko> could somebody else look at the triggered tests?
[16:23] <vorlon> ok I'll look at python3-defaults
[16:23] <vorlon> acl vs burp: JawnSmith would you like to take one of these this week?
[16:24] <vorlon> acl: JawnSmith
[16:24] <JawnSmith> sure
[16:24] <vorlon> and there are 3 others above the cutline but I believe everyone has at least one so I'll stop there
[16:25] <bdmurray> Thanks vorlon
[16:26] <bdmurray> #topic Release Incoming Bugs
[16:26] <bdmurray> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
[16:27] <bdmurray> bug 1799550
[16:30] <vorlon> doesn't really fit the roadmap for hirsute to work on this
[16:31] <bdmurray> okay, so we'll tag it rls-hh-notfixing
[16:32] <bdmurray> bug 1907228
[16:32] <bdmurray> there's already a card for this so it just needs targetting I guess
[16:33] <bdmurray> the same with the whoopsie bug
[16:33] <bdmurray> bug 1910255
[16:34] <bdmurray> so because there is an ubuntu diff we'll need to merge the new gnutls28 correct?
[16:34] <xnox> i can do gnutls thing
[16:34] <bdmurray> okay, do you want a card for it?
[16:35] <juliank> gnutls 3.7.0-5 is ready for merging now :)
[16:36] <xnox> yes.
[16:36] <bdmurray> okay, I'll make it
[16:36] <xnox> i don't trust them >_< =)
[16:36] <bdmurray> bug 1907850
[16:36] <juliank> Oh yeah, wanna take
[16:36] <xnox> plus it was RC buggy a bit in debian, not sure if that was resolved. including symbols versions.....
[16:36] <juliank> It's supposed to work
[16:36] <juliank> xnox: I'm happy with the gnutls update now, but it took a while to get there :)
[16:37] <bdmurray> It looks like there is already a card so it just needs targetting.
[16:37] <bdmurray> Nothing for rls-gg
[16:38] <tdaitx> waveform: vorlon: oh, I investigated sonic-pi in the past, it fails with XRUNs in jackd in our infra, but passes on debian... I tried giving it more buffer and some other jackd tricks, but it didn't go away completely (just less likely), the way it is setup it is highly dependent on infra load and ours is usually pretty loaded up... only thing I didn't try was to try letting it schedule jackd with realtime prio
[16:39] <waveform> tdaitx, I had a feeling it might be something like that (sonic-pi is verrrry timing sensitive, unsurprisingly)
[16:39] <bdmurray> #topic AOB
[16:39] <bdmurray> Any thing else?
[16:40] <bdmurray> Alright thanks everybody!
[16:40] <bdmurray> #endmeeting
[16:40] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jan  7 16:40:12 2021 UTC.
[16:40] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-01-07-16.00.moin.txt
[16:40] <tdaitx> thanks!
[16:40] <slyon> o/
[22:01] <diddledan> ok.. who's here for the membership board meeting?
[22:01] <marxjohnson> me :)
[22:01] <diddledan> o/
[22:01] <Wild_Man> Hi
[22:03] <diddledan> bashfulrobot: Bashing-om , wxl you all here?
[22:03] <bashfulrobot> I am!
[22:03] <bashfulrobot> heyo
[22:04]  * Bashing-om 
[22:04] <bashfulrobot> hey marxjohnson thanks for coming.
[22:04] <diddledan> .startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board
[22:05] <diddledan> !startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board
[22:05] <diddledan> bah
[22:05]  * diddledan goes find the list of commands
[22:05] <diddledan> aah it's a #
[22:05] <diddledan> #startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board
[22:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jan  7 22:05:47 2021 UTC.  The chair is diddledan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[22:05] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[22:06] <diddledan> Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting for <DATE>. The wiki page for the Review Boards are available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards
[22:06] <diddledan> We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off.
[22:06] <diddledan> The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO).
[22:06] <diddledan> Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions.
[22:06] <diddledan> During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote.
[22:06] <diddledan> When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the majority of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!)
[22:06] <diddledan> Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant...
[22:06] <diddledan> #topic Mark Johnson
[22:07] <marxjohnson> Hello, do I go now?
[22:07] <diddledan> Hi Mark, could you please introduce yourself and share the links to your wiki page and launchpad profile?
[22:07]  * diddledan was typing :-p
[22:07] <bashfulrobot> please do.
[22:07] <marxjohnson> Hi everyone, here's my wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarkJohnson and launchpad https://launchpad.net/~mark-barrenfrozenwasteland
[22:10] <marxjohnson> I've been part of the Ubuntu community for a long time, and have been contributing to the community as co-presenter of the Ubuntu Podcast for about a decade. With the recent resurgence of activity around the ubuntu community boards, I decided it was about time that I become a member, in the hope that I can become more actively involved in the community beyond the podcast in the future.
[22:12] <diddledan> you've got some great testimonials, and more than a few of them to boot :-) When everyone is ready the floor is open for any questions the board members have
[22:12] <Wild_Man> marxjohnson, that you anticipated the question we were going to ask, and that's if you have plans to spread out beyond the podcast and what that mighty look like
[22:12] <bashfulrobot> marxjohnson:  Do you see yourself expanding in any other ways outside the podcast?
[22:13] <Bashing-om> marxjohnson: With 10+ years of sustained service - recognition is long overdue :) In your future how do you perceive that this board can further your goals ?
[22:15] <diddledan> I wasn't aware that you were involved in organising oggcamp :-D that's awesome. Will you be returning to that when the plague is subsided to get in-person eventing back on the agenda?
[22:15] <marxjohnson> I'm interested in paying more attention to the members and activity of the community council and membership boards, using my votes in those areas effectively, and hopefully using my experience of the ubuntu community and the process of becoming member to contribute useful ideas.
[22:16] <marxjohnson> Also knowing who's who and what's happening makes for good content on the show :)
[22:17] <marxjohnson> I don't think I have the capacity to be the lead organiser of another OggCamp these days (recently became a dad), but if there are more events in the future I'd certainly help out where I can
[22:17] <diddledan> awesome. and congratulations of fatherhood!
[22:17] <marxjohnson> Thanks :)
[22:17] <marxjohnson> I think that covers the questions that have been asked so far?
[22:17] <diddledan> any more questions before we get to the vote?
[22:17] <Bashing-om> marxjohnson: Commendable attitude - these things are what we look for :D
[22:18] <bashfulrobot> I honestly already had my vote ready in my head. ;-p
[22:18] <diddledan> sneaky, bashfulrobot ;-p
[22:18] <bashfulrobot> (familiar with mark in the telegram groups)
[22:18] <diddledan> ok, let's get on with it then..
[22:18] <bashfulrobot> sneaky sneaky
[22:19] <diddledan> #vote Mark Johnson's Membership application
[22:19] <meetingology> Please vote on: Mark Johnson's Membership application
[22:19] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[22:19] <diddledan> #voters diddledan, bashfulrobot, bashing-om, Wild_Man, wxl
[22:19] <meetingology> Current voters: Wild_Man bashfulrobot bashing-om diddledan wxl
[22:19] <Bashing-om> diddledan: No other questions from me - solid person for continued contributions :D
[22:19] <Wild_Man> +1
[22:19] <meetingology> +1 received from Wild_Man
[22:19] <diddledan> +1 from me. you know I love you Mark ;-)
[22:19] <meetingology> +1 from me. you know I love you Mark ;-) received from diddledan
[22:19] <Bashing-om> +1
[22:20] <bashfulrobot> +1 - an awesome addition to the community in an "official" capacity!!
[22:20] <meetingology> +1 - an awesome addition to the community in an "official" capacity!! received from bashfulrobot
[22:20] <diddledan> oh, wxl isn't here
[22:20] <diddledan> ok, that's everyone then
[22:20] <Wild_Man> Congratulations marxjohnson
[22:20] <diddledan> #endvote
[22:20] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Mark Johnson's Membership application
[22:20] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[22:20] <meetingology> Motion carried
[22:21] <bashfulrobot> weeeelllllccccoooommmeeeee
[22:21] <marxjohnson> Thanks very much :)
[22:21] <diddledan> meetingology is wrong - that's 4 votes for
[22:21] <bashfulrobot> haha
[22:21] <Bashing-om> marxjohnson: Congratualations - much deserved :D
[22:21] <Wild_Man> I noticed that
[22:22] <diddledan> congratulations Mark, welcome to the dark side. cookies are on the way out
[22:22] <bashfulrobot> I never got cookies! shenanigans!
[22:22] <diddledan> with that, I'll end the meeting. Thank you very much everyone!
[22:22] <diddledan> #endmeeting
[22:22] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Jan  7 22:22:37 2021 UTC.
[22:22] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-01-07-22.05.moin.txt
[22:22] <bashfulrobot> Thanks everyone
[22:22] <bashfulrobot> nice to meet as always
[22:22] <marxjohnson> Thanks, now where do I get the keys to the executive washroom? :)
[22:23] <bashfulrobot> marxjohnson: I'll just need your address. ;-p
[22:25] <Bashing-om> marxjohnson: Executive paperwork: https://forms.canonical.com/certificate/ :P
[22:26] <bashfulrobot> marxjohnson: on top of it!