| guiverc | A quick scan of https://ubuntu.com/kernel/lifecycle doesn't provide a means to install 20.04 & stay on GA kernel stack (HWE now the default)... anyone aware of a good link for 20.04 users wishing to stay on 5.4/GA stack (issues with 5.8 in support) | 01:04 |
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| sarnold | guiverc: try: apt install linux-generic linux-generic-hwe-20.04- | 01:13 |
| guiverc | thanks sarnold... I don't have a box to test on (not for me, link intended for support comments).. a QA-test install of 20.04.2 daily yesterday still used 5.4 so HWE wasn't installed anyway. Thank you | 01:19 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS: https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop - need other ? | 01:31 |
| guiverc | something somewhere is causing users to bump to HWE I'm guessing post-install & ending up with 5.8 kernel already (last ~32 hours) & thus having issues.. Much of the wiki etc pages assume what was standard up to & including 18.04 (GA kernel default except for .2 & later media; no longer the case with 20.04/focal). Regardless 5.4 should still be default so users have switched to what lotus called edge/5.8. I was after a link that allows | 01:36 |
| guiverc | them to switch a 20.04/focal install to GA kernel only. | 01:36 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Historically the .1 release has the GA kernel - that is not the case ? | 01:38 |
| guiverc | I've already used sarnold's suggestion in a comment. I was hoping for a URL. No longer starting with 20.04 (default is now HWE, not GA) | 01:39 |
| guiverc | 20.04.2 hasn't hit streets yet, so not obvious yet. | 01:39 |
| guiverc | Bashing-om, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes "Ubuntu Desktop flavour now always tracks HWE kernel (hardware enablement). It means that from 20.04.2 release Ubuntu Desktop will gain new major kernel versions every 6 months through to summer of 2022" | 01:40 |
| sarnold | oh nice | 01:40 |
| guiverc | these users however are still getting the HWE kernel early! | 01:40 |
| guiverc | Summer of 2022 is unfortunate wording.. summer down here in the deep-deep-south is december-.. | 01:43 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Early is a bummer to me - 20.04 release: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/20.04/ . | 01:54 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Hummm ... HWE in focal is a fact - "sysop@2004x-c:~$ apt list linux-modules-extra-5.8.0-34-generic >> linux-modules-extra-5.8.0-34-generic/focal-security,focal-updates 5.8.0-34.37~20.04.2 amd64 ; sysop@2004x-c:~$ apt list linux-image-virtual-hwe-20.04-edge >> linux-image-virtual-hwe-20.04-edge/focal-security,focal-updates 5.8.0.34.37~20.04.20 amd64" . As I live and learn. | 02:28 |
| guiverc | I'm on hirsute here, but none of my tested boxes yesterday detected it.. I'll look again on the box besides me when I can. Thanks Bashing-om | 02:30 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Something amiss in 20.04 - 2 great testers report the same issue as you: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2456225 . | 02:36 |
| guiverc | I've seen 9+ reports last ~32 hours.. | 02:37 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning | 03:00 |
| Bashing-om | !info linux-image-virtual-hwe-20.04-edge focal | 03:37 |
| ubot5 | 'focal' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed | 03:37 |
| guiverc | Bashing-om, fyi: updated my 20.04 system, it's still on 5.4[.0-60] | 03:37 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: If we have 5.4 originally and do not opt in for HWE we should remain on that GA kernel. | 03:38 |
| guiverc | yeah but as I pasted before from release notes "Ubuntu Desktop flavour now always tracks HWE kernel (hardware enablement)" which to me meant early Feb-21 (feb 11 is scheduled 20.04.2 from memory) | 03:40 |
| Bashing-om | guiverc: Hummm ,,, Hummm .. my focal fully updated: 5.4.0-59-generic. | 03:40 |
| lotuspsychje | Bashing-om: before these bugs, there was HWE edge available for 20.04 i used it to fix a 5.4 bug to goto 5.8 | 03:40 |
| guiverc | 5.4.0-60[.67] (.67 package. -60 only installed) but only just installed | 03:41 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: But that was an optin on your part .. updates are going HWE without permission ! | 03:41 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah so i notice | 03:41 |
| Bashing-om | !info linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04 | 03:45 |
| ubot5 | 'focal' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, xenial, xenial-backports, xenial-proposed | 03:45 |
| Bashing-om | ^^ We need a bot fix. "sysop@2004x-c:~$ apt list linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04 >> linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04/focal-security,focal-updates 5.8.0.34.37~20.04.20 amd64". | 03:46 |
| ducasse | good morning | 05:58 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:49 |
| lotuspsychje | added bug #1910555 to the discuss team, this bug can be used to dupe all the recent 5.8 broadcom bugs to | 12:53 |
| ubot5 | bug 1910555 in bcmwl (Ubuntu) "Driver build error on kernel 5.8, but works on 5.4" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1910555 | 12:53 |
| jeremy31 | So why are 20.04 users being updated to 5.8 when that used to be just an option | 15:42 |
| leftyfb | jeremy31: do you have linux-generic-hwe-20.04 installed? | 15:52 |
| Maik | jeremy31: it's a ongoing thing isn't it? I still have 5.4.0-60 on my Ubuntu MATE 20.04.1 install. No 5.8 in sight | 16:03 |
| oerheks | they all have HWE installed, and refuse to mention it.. or | 17:27 |
| oerheks | 20.04.1 fresh install gets the HWE kernel automaticly, like 18.04.1 did | 17:27 |
| oerheks | but no post saying this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/20.04.1 | 17:28 |
| Maik | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#Ubuntu_20_LTS_-_Focal_Fossa | 17:32 |
| Maik | "The 20.04.2 and newer point releases will ship with an updated kernel and X stack by default for the desktop. Server installations will default to the GA kernel and provide the enablement kernel as optional. " | 17:32 |
| oerheks | ah good spot | 17:37 |
| Maik | :) | 17:38 |
| oerheks | sudo apt autoremove | 17:39 |
| oerheks | hmm .. "sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-20.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-20.04" does not find any package.. | 17:42 |
| oerheks | linux-generic-hwe-20.04 is there, xserver-xorg-hwe-20.04 missing | 17:43 |
| daftykins | Maik's quote isn't news, it's been like that forever | 18:10 |
| jeremy31 | leftyfb: I think the hwe was installed by user ubuntu during the install | 19:08 |
| jeremy31 | I might have to install 20.04 again without internet and see what it does when I update | 19:16 |
| oerheks | ah a clue; Livepatch pushed OS update 5.8.0-34 | 19:47 |
| oerheks | see #u | 19:47 |
| Maik | does kubuntu 20.04 support Livepatch? | 19:50 |
| Maik | most complaints came from those users | 19:51 |
| daftykins | it's not flavour specific | 19:51 |
| Maik | even KDE Neon users reported it so i don't think it has anything to do with the Livepatch | 19:51 |
| daftykins | eh, why do you feel that excludes it? that's available via PPA for kubuntu no? | 19:52 |
| daftykins | maybe not even PPA, but available | 19:52 |
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