| lordievader | Good morning | 07:49 |
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| jyak42 | ah-ha! | 09:49 |
| jyak42 | you thought you could hide! | 09:49 |
| jyak42 | Let's start w/ just assuming I'm basically a noob, I've got US 20.04 up, can ssh into it, & samba & vnc. | 09:50 |
| jyak42 | Trying to create a NAS / media server of fam pix / vids. | 09:51 |
| jyak42 | did my ssh port fwd thing, then launched tightvnc then dragged/dropped from ext usb attached to Server to (sambda share) folder | 09:51 |
| jyak42 | after getting the "permission denied" and doing the 'chmod -R 777' thing it's chugging away | 09:52 |
| jyak42 | Q: I closed the TightVNC viewer on my Windows box, but Ctrl-C doesn't stop the ssh connection like it normally does... is this normal? | 09:52 |
| jyak42 | hmm... | 09:57 |
| jyak42 | lemme ask it differently | 09:57 |
| jyak42 | Q2: when copying files from an ext usb connected to the server directly to int hdd on the Server, does the client where I did the copy need to stay up? | 09:59 |
| jyak42 | where I did => where I issued | 10:00 |
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| lordievader | <jyak42 "after getting the "permission de"> Brrr, scary | 10:42 |
| lordievader | <jyak42 "Q2: when copying files from an e"> Err, are you asking if the server is doing the copying of data or the client? How are you issueing a `cp`? | 10:43 |
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| jyak42 | good morning! | 18:38 |
| jyak42 | @lordievader, missed ya by | 18:39 |
| * jyak42 holds up his fingers about an inch apart | 18:39 | |
| jyak42 | that much! | 18:39 |
| jyak42 | Dabbled off/on w/ Xubuntu, Mint, but I'm new to Ubuntu Server. | 18:41 |
| jyak42 | although I've heard of chown and chmod I've never really had to use them. | 18:41 |
| jyak42 | oh forgot to mention since Windows changed from BIOS I've had less native installs | 18:42 |
| jyak42 | so I've been using VirtualBox for my Linux stuff. Again, up until Ubuntu Server (20.04, if it matters, but doubt it.) | 18:42 |
| jyak42 | it *finally* dawned on me that a dedicated machine -- aka non-virtual -- would have full access to all the RAM in the system. | 18:43 |
| jyak42 | I *also* finally realized that a "server" wouldn't need to be all that fast. | 18:43 |
| jyak42 | brainstorms, I tell ya, brainstorms! | 18:44 |
| lordievader | <jyak42 "I *also* finally realized that a"> Depends on what you do with it ;) | 18:47 |
| jyak42 | true. This is going to be a "NAS" or "media server" for family pix/vids | 18:48 |
| jyak42 | I'm a noob and although I'd love to have some handholding, I'm gonna ignore how I'm setting it up wrong and just ask the simple Q | 18:49 |
| jyak42 | I'll hopefully get to iterate and improve the setup | 18:49 |
| teward | jyak42: this... will sound like a stupid question but have you considered just installing Nextcloud or such? | 18:50 |
| teward | jyak42: this... will sound like a stupid question but have you considered just installing Nextcloud or such on the system? | 18:50 |
| jyak42 | for now, I'm still tied to Windows, but if I can backup my pix from my laptop, then I could maybe get a 256GB SSD | 18:50 |
| teward | and then simply let them access that throug hthat. | 18:50 |
| jyak42 | @teward, nope. but will look into it. I think the reasoning was that I wanted to learn more Linux. ;o) | 18:50 |
| teward | i mean | 18:51 |
| teward | you can still learn more Linux | 18:51 |
| teward | but Nextcloud deployment on a linux server is faist | 18:51 |
| Ussat | So, FWIW, and this is just me, but as someone who does computers and Linux for a living, I would buy a NAS | 18:51 |
| teward | but Nextcloud deployment on a linux server is fast | 18:51 |
| teward | also what Ussat says | 18:51 |
| teward | if you need a NAS, buy a NAS | 18:51 |
| Ussat | Dont get me wrong, I am not trying to discourage learning Linux, but I also EREALLY value simpolicity | 18:52 |
| Ussat | REALLY | 18:52 |
| jyak42 | @Ussat, that is becoming more and more obvious, but no pain no gain. Also, I got this box (hp elitedesk) for < $200 | 18:52 |
| jyak42 | NAS hasn't gotten cheap enough for me | 18:52 |
| Ussat | jyak42, fair enough, just tossing out my opinion | 18:52 |
| jyak42 | @Ussat, it is not going unnoticed and it might even be heeded in a future iteration. Along w/ nextcloud. | 18:53 |
| jyak42 | but for the noob Q | 18:53 |
| jyak42 | I followed a kid's vid on YT for setting up US & Samba | 18:53 |
| Ussat | Honestly, nextcloud | 18:54 |
| jyak42 | it took me a leap of faith to go headless | 18:54 |
| jyak42 | but it is working | 18:54 |
| jyak42 | i can ssh into it | 18:54 |
| jyak42 | and got tighvnc working | 18:54 |
| teward | jyak42: just install nextcloud on it | 18:54 |
| teward | it's the closets solution to turn the device into NAS | 18:54 |
| Ussat | Being an admin is as much about learning to do things, the SMART way | 18:54 |
| Ussat | not just HOW to do thing | 18:55 |
| teward | ^ this | 18:55 |
| jyak42 | so when copying 667GB or backups from an ext usb it wouldn't let me kill the local ssh session ( Ctrl-C didn't return me to DOS ) | 18:55 |
| Ussat | and NOT re inventing the wheel | 18:55 |
| jyak42 | does nextcloud hit the internet? I'm not sure I want this to be visible outside the LAN. | 18:56 |
| Ussat | Not if you dont want it to | 18:56 |
| jyak42 | does it req registration online? | 18:56 |
| Ussat | https://nextcloud.com/ | 18:56 |
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| jyak42 | @Ussat, ok. skimmed it. Will dive in deeper later. | 18:59 |
| jyak42 | got to to. Thanks for all the fish. peace & 42 | 18:59 |
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| sdeziel | teward: Ussat: how do you guys install nextcloud? via deb, snap, something else? | 19:12 |
| Ussat | Personally, I dont use it, I was just saying that is what I would use if I did it | 19:27 |
| Ussat | I am not a fan of snaps on servers, so probably a deb | 19:27 |
| Ussat | That said, this is a home NAS, so snap would prob be fine | 19:27 |
| sdeziel | alright, thx | 19:30 |
| Ussat | So, my issue with snaps, in a professional datacenter is the idea of ANYTHING restarting or updating outdside of my controll is bad.....period. | 19:31 |
| rbasak | You can control it with https://snapcraft.io/docs/keeping-snaps-up-to-date#heading--controlling-updates | 19:51 |
| rbasak | Or https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/disabling-automatic-refresh-for-snap-from-store/707/269 if you want a snap permanently detached from the store | 19:52 |
| Odd_Bloke | Though be aware, under refresh.hold: "After a refresh, the next refresh can be delayed by up to 60 days, after which a refresh will be performed regardless of the refresh.hold value." | 19:55 |
| Ussat | I have a better way, I just totally disble snaps | 19:56 |
| Ussat | snaps, are inherrantly a REALLY bad idea in enterprise servers | 19:57 |
| Ussat | period | 19:57 |
| Ussat | I know that ship has sailed, I get it, thats why I totally rip em out of my installs | 19:57 |
| Ussat | on desktops, I could care less | 19:58 |
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