[07:49] <lordievader> Good morning
[09:49] <jyak42> ah-ha!
[09:49] <jyak42> you thought you could hide!
[09:50] <jyak42> Let's start w/ just assuming I'm basically a noob, I've got US 20.04 up, can ssh into it, & samba & vnc.
[09:51] <jyak42> Trying to create a NAS / media server of fam pix / vids.
[09:51] <jyak42> did my ssh port fwd thing, then launched tightvnc then dragged/dropped from ext usb attached to Server to (sambda share) folder
[09:52] <jyak42> after getting the "permission denied" and doing the 'chmod -R 777' thing it's chugging away
[09:52] <jyak42> Q: I closed the TightVNC viewer on my Windows box, but Ctrl-C doesn't stop the ssh connection like it normally does... is this normal?
[09:57] <jyak42> hmm...
[09:57] <jyak42> lemme ask it differently
[09:59] <jyak42> Q2: when copying files from an ext usb connected to the server directly to int hdd on the Server, does the client where I did the copy need to stay up?
[10:00] <jyak42> where I did => where I issued
[10:42] <lordievader> <jyak42 "after getting the "permission de"> Brrr, scary
[10:43] <lordievader> <jyak42 "Q2: when copying files from an e"> Err, are you asking if the server is doing the copying of data or the client? How are you issueing a `cp`?
[18:38] <jyak42> good morning!
[18:39] <jyak42> @lordievader, missed ya by
[18:39]  * jyak42 holds up his fingers about an inch apart
[18:39] <jyak42> that much!
[18:41] <jyak42> Dabbled off/on w/ Xubuntu, Mint, but I'm new to Ubuntu Server.
[18:41] <jyak42> although I've heard of chown and chmod I've never really had to use them.
[18:42] <jyak42> oh forgot to mention since Windows changed from BIOS I've had less native installs
[18:42] <jyak42> so I've been using VirtualBox for my Linux stuff. Again, up until Ubuntu Server (20.04, if it matters, but doubt it.)
[18:43] <jyak42> it *finally* dawned on me that a dedicated machine -- aka non-virtual -- would have full access to all the RAM in the system.
[18:43] <jyak42> I *also* finally realized that a "server" wouldn't need to be all that fast.
[18:44] <jyak42> brainstorms, I tell ya, brainstorms!
[18:47] <lordievader> <jyak42 "I *also* finally realized that a"> Depends on what you do with it ;)
[18:48] <jyak42> true. This is going to be a "NAS" or "media server" for family pix/vids
[18:49] <jyak42> I'm a noob and although I'd love to have some handholding, I'm gonna ignore how I'm setting it up wrong and just ask the simple Q
[18:49] <jyak42> I'll hopefully get to iterate and improve the setup
[18:50] <teward> jyak42: this... will sound like a stupid question but have you considered just installing Nextcloud or such?
[18:50] <teward> jyak42: this... will sound like a stupid question but have you considered just installing Nextcloud or such on the system?
[18:50] <jyak42> for now, I'm still tied to Windows, but if I can backup my pix from my laptop, then I could maybe get a 256GB SSD
[18:50] <teward> and then simply let them access that throug hthat.
[18:50] <jyak42> @teward, nope. but will look into it. I think the reasoning was that I wanted to learn more Linux. ;o)
[18:51] <teward> i mean
[18:51] <teward> you can still learn more Linux
[18:51] <teward> but Nextcloud deployment on a linux server is faist
[18:51] <Ussat> So, FWIW, and this is just me, but as someone who does computers and Linux for a living, I would buy a NAS
[18:51] <teward> but Nextcloud deployment on a linux server is fast
[18:51] <teward> also what Ussat says
[18:51] <teward> if you need a NAS, buy a NAS
[18:52] <Ussat> Dont get me wrong, I am not trying to discourage learning Linux, but I also EREALLY value simpolicity
[18:52] <Ussat> REALLY
[18:52] <jyak42> @Ussat, that is becoming more and more obvious, but no pain no gain. Also, I got this box (hp elitedesk) for < $200
[18:52] <jyak42> NAS hasn't gotten cheap enough for me
[18:52] <Ussat> jyak42, fair enough, just tossing out my opinion
[18:53] <jyak42> @Ussat, it is not going unnoticed and it might even be heeded in a future iteration. Along w/ nextcloud.
[18:53] <jyak42> but for the noob Q
[18:53] <jyak42> I followed a kid's vid on YT for setting up US & Samba
[18:54] <Ussat> Honestly, nextcloud
[18:54] <jyak42> it took me a leap of faith to go headless
[18:54] <jyak42> but it is working
[18:54] <jyak42> i can ssh into it
[18:54] <jyak42> and got tighvnc working
[18:54] <teward> jyak42: just install nextcloud on it
[18:54] <teward> it's the closets solution to turn the device into NAS
[18:54] <Ussat> Being an admin is as much about learning to do things, the SMART way
[18:55] <Ussat> not just HOW to do thing
[18:55] <teward> ^ this
[18:55] <jyak42> so when copying 667GB or backups from an ext usb it wouldn't let me kill the local ssh session ( Ctrl-C didn't return me to DOS )
[18:55] <Ussat> and NOT re inventing the wheel
[18:56] <jyak42> does nextcloud hit the internet? I'm not sure I want this to be visible outside the LAN.
[18:56] <Ussat> Not if you dont want it to
[18:56] <jyak42> does it req registration online?
[18:56] <Ussat> https://nextcloud.com/
[18:59] <jyak42> @Ussat, ok. skimmed it. Will dive in deeper later.
[18:59] <jyak42> got to to. Thanks for all the fish. peace & 42
[19:12] <sdeziel> teward: Ussat: how do you guys install nextcloud? via deb, snap, something else?
[19:27] <Ussat> Personally, I dont use it, I was just saying that is what I would use if I did it
[19:27] <Ussat> I am not a fan of snaps on servers, so probably a deb
[19:27] <Ussat> That said, this is a home NAS, so snap would prob be fine
[19:30] <sdeziel> alright, thx
[19:31] <Ussat> So, my issue with snaps, in a professional datacenter is the idea of ANYTHING restarting or updating outdside of my controll is bad.....period.
[19:51] <rbasak> You can control it with https://snapcraft.io/docs/keeping-snaps-up-to-date#heading--controlling-updates
[19:52] <rbasak> Or https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/disabling-automatic-refresh-for-snap-from-store/707/269 if you want a snap permanently detached from the store
[19:55] <Odd_Bloke> Though be aware, under refresh.hold: "After a refresh, the next refresh can be delayed by up to 60 days, after which a refresh will be performed regardless of the refresh.hold value."
[19:56] <Ussat> I have a better way, I just totally disble snaps
[19:57] <Ussat> snaps, are inherrantly a REALLY bad idea in enterprise servers
[19:57] <Ussat> period
[19:57] <Ussat> I know that ship has sailed, I get it, thats why I totally rip em out of my installs
[19:58] <Ussat> on desktops, I could care less