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vargheseHi!14:58
vargheseIf you don't mind, is anyone here?14:58
Maik!ask | varghese15:02
ubottuvarghese: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:02
Maik!discuss15:02
ubottuWant to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!15:02
vargheseOh, this is a support channel?15:04
Maikvarghese: as the channel topic says so15:04
vargheseI thought I would just come here to talk about Ubuntu, I see :|15:04
vargheseAlright, i'll be joining #ubuntu-disscuss15:05
Maikas said, join discuss and for other chit-chat -offtopic15:05
Maikyep15:05
vargheseyeah thanks!!15:05
Maikyw15:06
varghese#ubuntu-offtopic doesnt exist?15:06
vargheseOh, I have to be registered, I see :|15:07
Maikyep, for most channels you have to be registered15:08
Maikit's to prevent spam15:08
vargheseOh, I see :(15:13
xubuntu_newbiehello15:31
xubuntu_newbiei just installed Xubuntu and i get this error "System program problem detected"15:32
xubuntu_newbieits the first thing that pops up after i boot, login and enter the OS15:33
xubuntu_newbieyesterday everything was fine, today i get this error but i didnt do anything15:34
diogenes_xubuntu_newbie, did you fully update the system?15:37
Maikxubuntu_newbie: just turn off apport15:37
Maikhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/93457/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-apport15:38
xubuntu_newbieits a clean installation from the latest releases15:38
Maikthat will solve the issue of the annoying pop up15:38
xubuntu_newbiewhat is apport?15:38
Maik!apport15:39
xubuntu_newbiethanks15:39
Maikhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport15:39
Maikxubuntu_newbie: ^15:39
diogenes_xubuntu_newbie, first thing after installing the system, run: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade15:40
xubuntu_newbiei dont have internet connection in xubuntu15:40
xubuntu_newbieit cant connect to any wifi15:41
diogenes_why?15:41
xubuntu_newbieit detects the wi-fis15:41
xubuntu_newbiebut cant connect to any15:41
xubuntu_newbiei restarted the network.service15:41
diogenes_you need to reboot the router.15:41
xubuntu_newbiei rebooted the router too15:41
xubuntu_newbieno one else is connecting to the router15:42
xubuntu_newbiei turned off the wireless drivers and turn them back on15:42
xubuntu_newbieand nothing worked15:42
Maikfirst solve one issue then the other15:42
xubuntu_newbieim thinking about a repair install or something to that effect15:42
xubuntu_newbieok15:42
xubuntu_newbiecan i use the sudo update thing?15:43
diogenes_try live session from usb drive.15:43
xubuntu_newbiehow do i do that15:44
diogenes_use the same usb drive or DVD that you used for installation but instead of installin, click on Try.15:46
xubuntu_newbieis there anyway to like do a "repair install"15:46
xubuntu_newbieok15:46
xubuntu_newbiei will try to do that15:46
xubuntu_newbiewhat can i determine from a usb live session15:51
xubuntu_newbiewhere does xubuntu keep the .iso file which you used for the installation?15:52
diogenes_see if you can connect to wifi from live15:52
xubuntu_newbiehmm, i see15:53
xubuntu_newbiedoes xubuntu keep the iso file you used for the installation in the hard-drive?15:54
diogenes_no15:55
xubuntu_newbieso im now downloading the iso file from xubuntu site15:58
xubuntu_newbieis there anyway to like repair install xubuntu16:00
diogenes_you can try to repair only what's broken.16:02
Maikxubuntu_newbie: repair doesn't exist, re-install is the only option16:04
Maiklinux isn't windows16:05
xubuntu_newbiei see16:05
Maikxubuntu_newbie: you can however make a snapshot of your install with Timeshift but as a newb i'd first learn the basics of a linux OS.16:10
xubuntu_newbieyeah, its my first time with linux16:11
xubuntu_newbieok ive put the iso in a usb file16:11
xubuntu_newbiehow can i "try" using the usb drive with the iso installation file16:23
diogenes_just boot the usb normally16:24
xubuntu_newbiei dont think it regonizes it as a bootable usb16:26
xubuntu_newbiebecause i went to the bios and set boot to usb drive16:26
xubuntu_newbieand it didnt work16:26
aldcorhi! I can't update. Here are details https://www.reddit.com/r/xubuntu/comments/kt5vaz/cant_update/?16:32
diogenes_did you write it from windows?16:32
diogenes_xubuntu_newbie, ^^^16:32
xubuntu_newbiewhat do you mean "write it from windows"? Ive downloaded the iso from xubuntu site, and put it on a usb, the usb has other files, i downloaded the iso with windows, im using windows right now in other machine diogenes_ogenes_16:37
xubuntu_newbiediogenes_16:37
diogenes_xubuntu_newbie, how you put it to usb? with what app? rufus?16:38
xubuntu_newbiediogenes_, just copy-paste16:41
xubuntu_newbieit connected now to a wi-fi, but its extremely slow16:42
xubuntu_newbieif i reboot xubuntu and try to reconnect again it probably doesnt work again16:42
diogenes_maybe you running out of battery?16:43
xubuntu_newbieand the connection is really slow although the speed it says 150 Mb/s16:43
xubuntu_newbieno, its not a laptop16:44
xubuntu_newbieits a mini-pc, gemini x5516:44
diogenes_maybe signal is weak.16:45
xubuntu_newbiethe router is less than 5 meters away16:46
diogenes_then i sustect driver issue.16:46
Maikcopy/paste doesn't write the iso to usb stick to use as live session16:46
Maikxubuntu_newbie: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview16:48
xubuntu_newbiethanks16:48
Maikwho installed your current xubuntu on the pc?16:49
xubuntu_newbieit was not me16:50
xubuntu_newbiebut it was working correctly16:50
xubuntu_newbiethen suddenly it started to not be able to connect to wifis16:50
Maikwhich kernel is it using?16:51
xubuntu_newbiethen it started to show this warning message after entering the OS desktop  "System program problem detected"16:51
Maikopen the terminal and type uname -r16:52
Maikthat will show you which kernel you are running16:53
xubuntu_newbie5.4.0-58-generic16:53
Maikxubuntu 20.04.1?16:54
xubuntu_newbiehow can i know the exact version16:54
xubuntu_newbiewhats the command16:54
Maiklsb_release -a16:55
Maikxubuntu_newbie: it doesn't hurt to google yourself a bit16:55
Maikthat kernel should be 5.4.0-60 by now by the way16:56
xubuntu_newbie20.0.04.1 LTS16:57
Maikok16:57
Maiksudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade16:58
xubuntu_newbieall in the same line?16:58
Maikyep16:58
xubuntu_newbieyes i know i could search for some of this basic commands16:58
xubuntu_newbiebut i dont know if it works on ubuntu also works on xubuntu16:58
Maikdo so, that way you learn something ;)16:59
xubuntu_newbiealright16:59
Maikxubuntu = ubuntu16:59
Maikwith the Xfce desktop16:59
Maikhence the x16:59
Maikxubuntu_newbie: all flavors of ubuntu use ubuntu as their base, just another desktop environment17:01
xubuntu_newbieits now update upgrading stuff17:02
xubuntu_newbievery slowly17:02
Maikjust let it do it's thing17:02
xubuntu_newbiebut xubuntu is faster right? Maik17:02
xubuntu_newbiewith less bloatware and such17:02
Maikas DE, it can be faster. I found MATE as fast17:03
Maikthere's no bloatware on buntu imo17:03
Maikit's not windows17:03
xubuntu_newbiecool17:04
xubuntu_newbienot being windows is very important17:05
xubuntu_newbieim done with windows, so i just switched to xubuntu now17:06
xubuntu_newbieinternet is too slow to update and upgrade the kernel17:09
xubuntu_newbiesome packages it fails to connect17:09
xubuntu_newbiewhy is my internet so slow17:24
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xubuntu_newbieim creating a bootable usb with xubuntu 20 using rufus17:35
xubuntu_newbiei dont want to give up on xubuntu17:43
xubuntu_newbieby the way xubuntu says amd64 but the processor of my machine is a intel17:46
Maikdon't mind that17:48
xubuntu_newbieok17:48
Maikyou have the right image17:48
xubuntu_newbieif the usb boot works and everything is fine does it mean i have to reinstall xubuntu?17:52
xubuntu_newbiei didnt do anything for it to stop working and give all these errors17:53
xubuntu_newbiedidnt install anything17:53
coconutxubuntu_newbie, you can use gnome-disks to put the xubuntu iso on your usb17:59
xubuntu_newbieive booted with usb xubuntu18:04
xubuntu_newbieand it does not give me the error after desktop init18:05
xubuntu_newbie"System program problem detected"18:05
xubuntu_newbiethat one, it doesnt give me anymore18:06
xubuntu_newbiebut wifi is still slow the ones it can connect18:06
xubuntu_newbieits so slow, its not even functional at all18:09
diogenes_xubuntu_newbie, let's try to change the DNS.18:12
xubuntu_newbieok18:15
diogenes_run in terminal: nm-connection-editor18:22
xubuntu_newbieyes i can edit the wifi and non-wifi networks he scans and finds18:23
diogenes_did you type that command in terminal?18:24
xubuntu_newbieyes18:25
xubuntu_newbieit open the edit connection window18:25
diogenes_doule click on your wifi ssid name18:26
xubuntu_newbieok done18:26
diogenes_IPv4 Settings18:26
xubuntu_newbieok18:27
xubuntu_newbiedone18:27
diogenes_change Method to: Automatic, addresses only18:27
diogenes_then18:27
diogenes_in DNS servers type: 1.1.1.1, 1.0.0.118:28
xubuntu_newbieok18:28
xubuntu_newbieok18:28
diogenes_click save18:28
diogenes_then in terminal run:18:29
diogenes_sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager18:29
xubuntu_newbieok18:30
diogenes_see the network info from network icon18:31
diogenes_make sure DNS is 1.1.1.118:31
xubuntu_newbieive double checked its 1.1.1.1 primary and 1.0.0.1 secondary18:34
xubuntu_newbiei restarted the network service18:34
xubuntu_newbieand connected to wifi18:34
xubuntu_newbieit connects to the wifi but i cant connect to any sites18:34
diogenes_in terminal type:18:35
diogenes_ping google.com18:35
xubuntu_newbieok18:35
diogenes_is it going fast or slow?18:35
xubuntu_newbieits pinging18:37
xubuntu_newbie12000 ms18:37
xubuntu_newbie9000 ms18:37
xubuntu_newbiedo i stop the ping command18:37
diogenes_yep ctrl+c18:38
diogenes_ping is insane18:38
xubuntu_newbie29000 ms18:38
xubuntu_newbie33% packed loss18:39
diogenes_and it should be around 30ms18:39
xubuntu_newbiemaybe i should connect the internet directly from the cable18:40
diogenes_try yep18:40
xubuntu_newbieworks perfectly18:48
xubuntu_newbiesuper fast internet18:49
diogenes_then it's the wifi driver or device or router.18:51
coconutxubuntu_newbie, did you try to reboot or reset your network devices?18:56
xubuntu_newbiei shutdown the machine18:56
xubuntu_newbieplug in the internet cable18:57
xubuntu_newbieturn on the machine18:57
xubuntu_newbiegave that error18:57
xubuntu_newbieand internet was super fast, didnt change anything18:57
xubuntu_newbiei connected to the internet via the cable18:57
xubuntu_newbiei reboot the network devices before yes18:58
xubuntu_newbieit does not connect to all wifis but it detects them all, the ones it connects, the internet is so slow its not functional19:02
xubuntu_newbiemaybe i should try to update the kernel with direct cable internet connection19:03
diogenes_good idea.19:04
coconuttried another pc? or tried to update the bios/uefi of your pc?19:05
xubuntu_newbieother computers at home can connect to the wifi and access the internet19:10
xubuntu_newbiebut none of them are connected now19:10
xubuntu_newbieto not interfere with the connections19:10
coconutif it's only one pc which fails, then try and check for an update for the uefi.19:12
xubuntu_newbieis that done with a command?19:15
xubuntu_newbieeven with the kernel update it still gives me the same pop up error at the beginning19:16
xubuntu_newbieand the internet is still slow19:16
xubuntu_newbiewireless is too slow or downright not functional19:17
coconutno you have to find that on the website of the manufacturer19:17
xubuntu_newbieno update to the uefi19:23
coconutyeah then i have no clue... hope some else can help though. :)19:26
xubuntu_newbiethanks anyway19:29
xubuntu_newbiewell i guess i will reinstall xubuntu19:31
coconuthappy experimenting xubuntu_newbie!19:32
xubuntu_newbiethanks19:42
xubuntu_newbieok i found the problem20:27
xubuntu_newbiethis machine has a slot for a second HDD20:27
xubuntu_newbiewhen i put the second HDD internet goes down20:27
xubuntu_newbiewhen i remove it, the internet works as fast as direct cable20:27
xubuntu_newbiehow can I not load the second hdd20:28
xubuntu_newbieecho 1 > /sys/block/(whatever)/device/delete ?20:41

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