[01:22] does anyone know how to tell if Snap packages works on ubuntu touch ? [01:54] it doesn't work [01:54] maybe in the future [01:55] https://duckduckgo.com/?t=canonical&q=snap+packages+site%3Aubports.com&ia=web [03:47] D4R1IN9 was added by: D4R1IN9 [03:48] Hello everyone can anyone guide me how to build ubuntu touch for my dev btw my dev is redmi note 7 pro [03:48] Running on sd675 [05:04] So I just ordered a pinephone. Hows the experience as of 2021? [05:05] @Lyokanthrope [So I just ordered a pinephone. Hows the experience as of 2021?], nice, I just ordered a new battery for a thinkpad I had to reset the BIOS on today [05:44] ANTONINI marois was added by: ANTONINI marois [05:44] (Photo, 689x903) https://irc.ubports.com/f6Badd6b.png [08:17] Martin was added by: Martin [09:19] (Photo, 513x763) https://irc.ubports.com/PnK3liu6.png [09:20] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/kHhNhBNh.webp [09:25] Mat60000 was added by: Mat60000 [10:05] Brooklyn479 was added by: Brooklyn479 [10:11] @RoninGamer47 [On ubuntu touch does not have the option to do tethering ?], Why ? Hotspot doesn't work ? [10:14] @RoninGamer47 [On ubuntu touch does not have the option to do tethering ?], You can enable RNDIS usb mode in the tweak tool app [10:23] Why use a cable when you can use a wireless connection? Habit or discretion or ? [10:30] @libremax [Why use a cable when you can use a wireless connection? Habit or discretion or …], Maybe the computer doesn't have wireless connection, or maybe because cable tethering has less network latency [10:32] Yes, I lack of imagination today ! I hope it will come back soon 😊. [10:41] @libremax [Why ? Hotspot doesn't work ?], Hotspot works in the old builds but has issues in Halium ports for newer devices [11:39] @Flohack [Hotspot works in the old builds but has issues in Halium ports for newer devices], Seem that newer device still not support fully yet I probably should rethink and redecide before porting [11:40] Wi-Fi hotspot works on Volla Phone/Android 9 at least [12:09] So you can't do anything in the system yet [12:10] When I used it in the ubuntu phone version of canonical I had more things [12:12] I am failing to copy someting from terminal to Axolotl (signal client) on pinephone. How do I do that? I can not use the copy function of the keyboard. [12:12] @RoninGamer47 [When I used it in the ubuntu phone version of canonical I had more things], Eh? [12:13] And I suspect that when I select text on the terminal and copy it... that it won't be available to axolotl (at least the paste buffer seems empty) [12:13] @dohbee [Eh?], i think hes on about gimp being preinstalled lmao [12:14] It wasn't [12:15] @dohbee [Eh?], I didn't understand [12:16] @RoninGamer47 [I didn't understand], What more do you think was there before? [12:16] I want to say that they took a lot out of the system, left it very raw, and many apps left the store like telegram that now only has a web version [12:18] There is teleports [12:19] when it was developed by canonical ubuntu phone has many interesting things, had apps, what happened to the system? nor does the terminal work to make installation [12:19] But yes, many app devs also stopped and so old apps are no more, esp paid ones [12:19] @RoninGamer47 [when it was developed by canonical ubuntu phone has many interesting things, had …], No idea what you mean [12:20] I remember that I managed to install firefox by the terminal, now it no longer has this option [12:20] (Voice, 2s) https://irc.ubports.com/U50L0aYC.oga [12:21] @dohbee [No idea what you mean], I want to say that before it was the propria canonical that developed for ubuntu touch [12:21] @RoninGamer47 [I remember that I managed to install firefox by the terminal, now it no longer h …], No you didn't. Not outside libertine anyway [12:21] @dohbee [No idea what you mean], [Edit] I want to say that before it was canonical that developed for ubuntu touch [12:21] @amyosx [i think hes on about gimp being preinstalled lmao], 😀 [12:23] is there any other browser for ubuntu touch ? [12:23] There is very little difference between what was last released by canonical, and current ut, really [12:24] @RoninGamer47 [is there any other browser for ubuntu touch ?], Did you search open store for browser? [12:25] @dohbee [There is very little difference between what was last released by canonical, and …], negative, it has a lot of difference yes [12:25] @dohbee [Did you search open store for browser?], Yes [12:26] and no other browser option appeared [12:26] @RoninGamer47 [negative, it has a lot of difference yes], You are misremembering. The only real difference is the work continued, and the base was upgraded [12:26] @RoninGamer47 [Yes], Then you have your answer [12:28] Ubuntu Phone: présentation de l'OS mobile de Canonical au CES 2013 … https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9tNGrspCvE&t=22 [12:29] That was a demo ware, not the last release [12:29] look at the difference, the system had a lot and was much more beautiful, now there is nothing and not to do anything [12:30] It did not [12:30] but when I wore it was just like that [12:30] But if you don't like it, then feel free to build your own or use something else [12:31] Hey, why can I copy-paste within the same app but not between two apps? [12:31] The current design is what canonical built. [12:31] I'm a big fan of ubuntu, but that way it gets hard [12:32] I think we need to hire a Ubuntu designer [12:33] No. But you are welcome to donate a few hundred thousand dollars that would cover such codts [12:33] [Edit] No. But you are welcome to donate a few hundred thousand dollars that would cover such costs [12:41] @RoninGamer47 [look at the difference, the system had a lot and was much more beautiful, now th …], If you are here to complain, then okay, we heard it, you can leave again [12:41] Nobody is interested in such rants [12:44] @Flohack [Nobody is interested in such rants], calm down, so I'm talking no need to be nervous [12:45] Hello everybody, do to the massive registrations to Signal this last days, they are hosting an Ask Me Anything on Reddit. I posted a message about Signal on GNU/Linux on behalf of the Axolotl team, it would be really nice if you could upvote it so they answer to it: https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/kt91qk/signal_private_mess [12:45] enger_team_here_we_support_an/gir8vtf/ [12:46] [Edit] Hello everybody, due to the massive registrations to Signal this last days, they are hosting an Ask Me Anything on Reddit. I posted a message about Signal on GNU/Linux on behalf of the Axolotl team, it would be really nice if you could upvote it so they answer to it: https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/kt91qk/signal_priv [12:46] ate_messenger_team_here_we_support_an/gir8vtf/ [12:46] @RoninGamer47 [calm down, so I'm talking no need to be nervous], I am not nervous but you are generalizing facts, leaving out important details, only to tell us that UT is unusable. Thanks, not interested, I use it as daily for years now, what you think about that [12:47] @flaburgan [Hello everybody, due to the massive registrations to Signal this last days, they …], You forgot push notifications. Without that, the app is useless for me [12:51] PyQT, PySide, PyGTK or tkinter is available? [12:53] pyotherside [12:53] Anything else you need to include in your app [12:54] @Flohack [I am not nervous but you are generalizing facts, leaving out important details, …], relax young, not here who spoke [12:55] @Flohack [You forgot push notifications. Without that, the app is useless for me], Indeed, though we are actually keeping a websocket connection open and It works well, even if that means keeping the app open so more battery consumption [12:55] If someone complaint so much than you fix it [12:55] outside here, is there any other ubuntu touch Community? who has someone who speaks Portuguese ? [12:56] @H@ñß9ñ [If someone complaint so much than you fix it], Don't be demanding and rude. [12:56] @RoninGamer47 [outside here, is there any other ubuntu touch Community? who has someone who spe …], You were given the link to the PT group already [12:57] @flaburgan [Indeed, though we are actually keeping a websocket connection open and It works …], But I will add it thanks for the feedback greatly appreciated [12:57] @dohbee [You were given the link to the PT group already], but this untied the link group [12:57] @flaburgan [Indeed, though we are actually keeping a websocket connection open and It works …], Thats why OWS needs to implement the push API from us. [12:58] @RoninGamer47 [but this untied the link group], What? [12:58] @dohbee [Don't be demanding and rude.], Yeah lol [12:58] What is OWS [12:58] @flaburgan [Indeed, though we are actually keeping a websocket connection open and It works …], I mean you should have pointed out that we need them for supporting it. We can do a lot on our side, but without pushes it wont be a 1st class citizen like Telegram [12:58] @Flohack [Thats why OWS needs to implement the push API from us.], Yeah and that's server side so we depend of them [12:59] @dohbee [What?], the ubports group in Portuguese has been deactivated [12:59] @Flohack [I mean you should have pointed out that we need them for supporting it. We can d …], If they support web push, maybe we should add a plan for that instead [13:00] @RoninGamer47 [the ubports group in Portuguese has been deactivated], No, it is still there. Just quiet because few people [13:00] @D4R1IN9 [Hello everyone can anyone guide me how to build ubuntu touch for my dev btw my d …], Sir anyone [13:00] Please [13:01] @dohbee [No, it is still there. Just quiet because few people], send the link again please [13:01] @RoninGamer47 [send the link again please], @ubports_pt [13:02] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/e2orjWmH.png [13:02] Translate? [13:02] You were banned I guess [13:02] @Flohack [I mean you should have pointed out that we need them for supporting it. We can d …], I think I found a piece of code from Jaime who was a canonical employee from 6 years ago who started axolotl/textsecure, for supporting push notifications by the signal server and also it's in the Axolotl code to register with the the Ubuntu pus [13:02] h server [13:03] @amyosx [Translate?], this is saying: sorry, this chat is no longer accessible [13:03] @dohbee [You were banned I guess], No [13:03] @Flohack [I mean you should have pointed out that we need them for supporting it. We can d …], [Edit] I think I found a piece of code from Jaimo who was a canonical employee from 6 years ago who started axolotl/textsecure, for supporting push notifications by the signal server and also it's in the Axolotl code to register with the the Ubu [13:03] ntu push server [13:03] @RoninGamer47 [this is saying: sorry, this chat is no longer accessible], I can access it 😂 [13:03] @H@ñß9ñ [I can access it 😂], 😢 [13:03] @RoninGamer47 [No], I just joined. It has a captcha [13:04] how strange, I wasn't banned from la [13:04] So you must have been banned by it [13:05] ask the moderator to add me by The please [13:05] @DiogoConstantino @rubencarneiro ^^ [13:07] Thanks [13:07] @dohbee [You were banned I guess], Exactly [13:15] Hello everyone! Nobody heard the GSI version of OTA 15 is even planning to come out? And that update has been released a long time ago, but GSI is not there and I cannot update because of this ... [13:16] @Flohack [Hotspot works in the old builds but has issues in Halium ports for newer devices], Good to know, hotspot is my main use of UT when at home. [13:19] @dohbee [So you must have been banned by it], We are on it [13:50] @agoodmatt [Web Development. A team to develop the website of UbPorts], i am not aware of a specific group for the website, perhaps @kaizan can help you [13:50] @agoodmatt [Web Development. A team to develop the website of UbPorts], [Edit] i am not aware of a specific group for the website, perhaps @kaizennn can help you [14:08] @Ravi Singh [Can I get this in USA?], There is Pinephone from Pine64 [14:42] ™శ్రీనివాసం™ was added by: ™శ్రీనివాసం™ [14:57] Nipun Garodia was added by: Nipun Garodia [15:14] Cleora Porter was added by: Cleora Porter [15:14] driesvdb was added by: driesvdb [15:21] is there a list with supported apps? [15:22] i would like to move away from google for reasons i probably don't have to explain you ;) [15:27] you can check open-store.io [15:50] XivH7 was added by: XivH7 [15:50] Hello [15:51] I have one question, can ubuntu touch be side loaded with Android? [15:51] Or is it impossible? [15:51] I mean dual boot [15:51] depends on the device most likely [15:52] @XivH7 [I have one question, can ubuntu touch be side loaded with Android?], yes and no [15:52] depends on device to device and not officially supported [15:52] Oh, got it [15:52] I have an redmi note 7 [15:52] It's my main phone, so I wanted to keep Android as well [15:58] is it possible to flash another ROM (zip) with Ubport recovery? [16:05] (Photo, 577x800) https://irc.ubports.com/Q7dnuwFR.png It's amazing!! Hurry to be in time !!! This is incredible!!🚀💥🚀 … https://bit.ly/3nu5kdB [16:06] spam [16:06] No [16:11] @charlie39 [is it possible to flash another ROM (zip) with Ubport recovery?], you mean dualboot [16:12] geh another stuck ping, someone ping me please [16:13] A was added by: A [16:13] can i install it on samsung m31 [16:14] please check devices.ubuntu-touch.io [16:14] all devices not listed there should be ported [16:15] anyone who have read docs.ubports.com/porting can try to port [16:16] @Fuseteam [anyone who have read docs.ubports.com/porting can try to port], 👍👍👍 [16:17] 0xy kali: that as well as complete replacement of ubuntu? [16:18] huh? [16:19] hmm still stuck [16:19] interesting [16:19] Fuseteam: me ?? [16:21] Oxy Kali: i see options for replacing ubuntu from the recovery menu, don't see option for sideload though? [16:24] yes you charlie39 what do you mean with "complete replacement of ubuntu"? [16:26] ubuntu touch is not a android rom, its a completely different operating system [16:27] i have it on my desktop, been using it for the past 5 years ;) [16:27] 20.04 latest [16:28] what i was asking is the option 'Replace Ubuntu android system' in the recovery menu [16:29] under 'ubuntu action'. What does it do ? replace ubuntu with a different ROM?? [16:30] also would like to know if it is possible to run a vnc server on ubuntu touch [16:30] Replacing the Android image replaces the image which Ubuntu Touch uses for compatibility with Android. [16:31] If you want to install an Android system, just follow its instructions [16:35] UniversalSuperBox: okay, about the vnc server? is X11 forwading available in the sshd? [16:35] MigOsoybistorolip was added by: MigOsoybistorolip [16:41] yes someone is working on getting a vnc server working on ubuntu touch [16:42] and yes x forwarding "just works" [16:42] [Edit] and yes x forwarding of x apps "just works" [16:44] however its takes a bit of tinkering to x forward to ubuntu touch [16:54] well doesn't quite "just work" but yes it works [17:02] one quick question, is the system image hosted in some file server or some other site? downloading it from git hub artifact is a painful, especially when the connection is not good. There's no option to resume download once connection drops, i want a direct link so can download it something like wget or aria2c [17:03] question: Are there paid developers on ubports? If so how many? [17:03] (part time vs full time) [17:03] hey coach. [17:03] I want to say about 4 or 5 [17:04] all fulltime or part time? [17:04] @Flohack or @UniversalSuperBox or Jan could probably confirm better [17:04] or mix? [17:04] mix i think [17:04] ah [17:05] charlie39 tnis hosted on ci.ubports.com if memory serves [17:05] Hey guys, let me ask one question [17:06] If i wanted to go back to android do I use a regular method like installing it via manufacturer app on pc? [17:06] Or do I have to do something more? [17:07] I searched for it on UBports site but found nothing [17:07] @profetik777 [question: Are there paid developers on ubports? If so how many?], Lets say its 3.5 FTE (full time equivalents) that are currently paid [17:07] any part time paid? [17:07] thanks for the quick response [17:08] i guess that is the .5 [17:08] lol [17:08] @XivH7 [If i wanted to go back to android do I use a regular method like installing it v …], afaik; yes that should just work [17:09] @profetik777 [i guess that is the .5], Its a mix ^^ I am not going into the details more, sorry [17:10] @Fuseteam [afaik; yes that should just work], Great! So I'm going deep with it. I've wanted to try |Ubuntu Touch for almost 2 years now [17:14] I ask because there are some concerning things on mobile right now - and we need linux on mobile now more than ever...if someone wanted to make recommendations on strength of a project, but can't get confirmation /adequate details on how many are FT devs (paid), esp for an open source based project, that might make someone wonder on t [17:14] he strenght/health of a project. [17:14] I might inquire, why do we need mobile Linux more now than ever? [17:15] corporate censorship [17:15] Ah. I was hoping you were going to say something about trust or high-security environments [17:16] (that is a given, for sure that is paramount) [17:17] I need to be frank with you, the OpenStore is hosted on platforms which have similar terms of service tp AWS, Twitter, and Facebook. We realistically could not host content that these other platforms have removed. [17:17] So if you're coming to Touch for the possibility of Parler, you'll be sorely disappointed. [17:20] Not necessarily because of parler, but its writing on the wall. Things will get more restrictive. [17:21] and to have a platform that it is easy and robust for alternatives - is an important thing for digital freedoms [17:23] And foundation is able to receive funds now right? [17:23] Yes, https://ubports.com/donate [17:23] sweet [17:24] thx gents [17:26] @profetik777 [I ask because there are some concerning things on mobile right now - and we need …], We are a community project, its natural that we do not have so many employees. If you can fund a company that can have a business and contribute to UT it would be grand ;) [17:27] working on that lottery ticket still....when i hit it big, you'll be the first to know [17:27] 😆 [17:28] But it seems, that does not work, otherwise it probably would have happened already. So if there is no business model possible ATM and donations are the only thing toi live off, maybe better idea is to find us a big sponsor ;) [17:30] recent events just make me pause and revisit the linux/mobile landscape... … I know corporations have a level of rights to impose on its platforms, but if you've ever read any of John Perkin's work (confessions of an economic hitman), governments "outsource" flavors of oppression through thirdparty organizations and entities (corporat [17:30] ions/international agencies). … China has mastered this obviously. It's been happening here in the US (see Edward Snowden's work) already with corporate back doors. It is just now becoming more and more "consumer grade" and didn't think it would escalate this fast from how it was happening just in 2016/2017. [17:31] Annnnyways, didn't mean to go there, but that is the heart behind the question. … Again, if i get a fat lotto check, I'll be a big sponsor, I promise lol [17:31] have a good one folks [17:37]