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jjakobon 16.06I set iface eth0 inet6 dhcp autoconf 000:51
jjakoboh wait, never mind :)00:52
lbarksdaletomreyn, apologies for dropping off last night. Connection was down and I had to head to bed. Here's a photo of the debug messages at the point of freeze: https://imgur.com/a/XkdGgK001:04
lbarksdaleI also tried booting a live Fedora USB (latest version), and it froze seemingly similarly. I wonder if there was some update to the kernel between Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 (that's also in more recent Fedora) that's causing the freeze01:07
gebbionewhat am i missing in this purging https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5z3MD9Fw4R/01:33
Bashing-omgebbione: I see the ppa-purge command as ' sudo ppa-purge ppa:ansible/ansible '.01:49
Bashing-om!ppa-purge | gebbione01:50
ubottugebbione: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html01:50
gebbionei tried that too with another package01:51
gebbionewhen i grep for the ppa it is still there01:51
gebbionefor instance for /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dupeguru-ubuntu-ppa-bionic.list:deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/dupeguru/ppa/ubuntu bionic main01:52
gebbionei have run -> sudo ppa-purge -o ppa:dupeguru/ppa ... but dupeguru is still installed01:52
gebbionei ll try without the -o01:53
gebbionedoesnt work ... i guess it does not like those warnings i see and exists01:55
Bashing-omgebbione: Was once on the wish list that when ppa-purge completed to also remove the source - I do not know that is now in effect.01:55
gebbionebtw do you know what is the benefit of upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04, is there like a release page or an article/summary that suggests what would change?02:15
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Bashing-omgebbione: Uh Huh - see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes .02:18
Bashing-omgebbione: I do note that 20.04 (xubuntu) runs faster for me than 18.04 did.02:19
marchesiniGood afternoon02:29
marchesiniUbuntu is a shit i prefer windows02:31
Bashing-ommarchesini: You are free to make that choice :P02:32
Toadisattvareally though?02:33
marchesiniWould better that Linux dont exists02:33
marchesiniWill take much time to kick me?02:35
marchesiniLol02:36
pasizin an open world, without fences and walls, who needs gates and windows02:36
mefistofelesCanonical does02:37
mefistofelesxD02:37
marchesiniIm using fedora02:39
marchesiniGood distro02:39
marchesiniI use ubuntu for 5 years02:40
marchesiniWhat hell ibm is making with centos!!!02:40
pasizbusiness maybe?02:40
marchesiniMoney money money02:41
fgasperHello. Where is the man page for posix_spawnattr_init?02:41
pasizfgasper: 302:42
fgasperSorry, I mean which package? I have the man page for posix_spawnp but not for posix_spawnattr_init.02:43
fgasperThank you!02:43
pasizsection 302:43
fgasperI mean, which dpkg/apt package?02:44
marchesiniI never had ear about this, but i really think that google have the answer02:45
fgasperGoogle has a man page for it, but I don’t think it pertains to Ubuntu because the man page I find online for posix_spawnp doesn’t mention the GNU-specific extensions that Ubuntu’s man page for that function discusses.02:46
marchesiniWhich opensource project works is developed with react and java, that i can help on my free time02:49
marchesiniI never cooperated with the community, i love to do this someday02:50
goppohi03:06
goppoi've just run a rather memory intensive process which made use of some of the swap space. now that the process has ended, the swap space isn't freed. is it a good idea to explicitly free the entire swap space?03:06
goppothe strange thing is, if i run the same process again, more swap space is used, until 0MB swap space is left03:06
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OnceuponabanHi. I have a computer running Ubuntu Server 20.04. I restarted my machine shortly after a sudo apt update/upgrade, but now the computer doesn't boot properly, landing in the BusyBox shell with the message "No init found. Try passint init= bootarg." How do I find out what went wrong/what to fix?03:15
Onceuponabanturns out it was related to the file system somehow. Running fsck revealed errors, correcting them led to the system booting correctly.03:41
Jari--morning03:45
jaziz1change my bashrc and now can't get into wsl204:32
jaziz1here's what I get when I open it up04:32
jaziz1https://i.snipboard.io/6TNVbR.jpg04:32
mefistofelesjaziz1: what did you put in it?04:32
jaziz1mefistofeles, copy/pasted somethin I found online :D04:32
mefistofelesjaziz1: yeah, never do that04:32
jaziz1didn't think it'd be that consequential04:33
mefistofelesI mean, unless you understand what it does04:33
jaziz1thought it was just to change colors and settings of that nature honestly04:33
jaziz1ok apparently there's a backup bashrc in /etc/skel04:39
jaziz1perrrfect04:42
kontra2pavlos hello04:47
cuetipcan anyone suggest a way to manage bluetooth manager,it keeps freezing probobly due to powersaving settings but if it plays up on me id like to avoid a restart or logout-any suggestions guys04:49
kontra2I mounted /dev/sda1 /mnt04:50
cuetip5.8.0-36-generic gnome desktop 20.04.104:50
kontra2again I am trying to mount 'sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi04:52
kontra2it says 'mount point does not exist' pls help04:53
lordcirthkontra2, what is in /mnt?04:53
kontra2I trying to recover lost grub bootloader04:54
lordcirthkontra2, and /mnt/boot/efi doesn't exist. Does /mnt/boot exist?04:55
kontra2I am a newbie, idk04:55
kontra2so I have to remove /mnt/boot04:56
kontra2??04:56
kontra2I was suggested this by pavlos04:57
lordcirthkontra2, no, don't go deleting things just yet04:59
cuetiprolf hold on champ pause fools rush and cry soon05:00
cuetipyou got this lordcirth05:03
cuetipi dont even know whats going on fyi05:03
user217_is anyway to get back opera titlebar in openbox ?05:07
jaziz1what's the name for the line that describes what directory you're currently in?05:10
Bashing-omjaziz1: prompt ?05:11
kontra2lordcirth could you suggest correct steps to restore grub2 bootloader05:11
jaziz1Bashing-om, hm that sounds right05:11
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Apachezanyone else noticied that vdpauinfo segment faults in both ubuntu 20.04 LTS and 20.10 creating coredump in /tmp?06:55
black_13is there way to build a source package with debug information07:11
ApachezThread 1 "vdpauinfo" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.07:17
Apachez0x00007ffff6b72d78 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so07:17
lotuspsychjeblack_13: we dont reccomend compiling software your own here, instead use the packages from the official repos07:20
chalarmblack_13: the question lotuspsychje would need to add is, why would you want to build something if something isn't working the way you want mostlikely you just need to install a extra package.07:28
lotuspsychjethats a question the user itself should ask07:29
ducasseblack_13: many packages are available with debug symbols08:03
black_13how do you install all the local packages built from a source install08:22
chalcedony`my husband is still / again having problems with his ubuntu 20.04. we tried booting it with nomodeset, but after that it puts out colored vertical lines a couple of times and then ends with a - in the top left corner, that blinks.10:15
OverEagerStudentAnyon on here familar with the systemd-cron package? It's exhibiting some very strange behavior.10:16
chalcedony`hi OverEagerStudent10:16
OverEagerStudentHello10:17
chalcedony`this seems to be a slower time of day/night10:18
chalcedony`OverEagerStudent you might try describing some of the behavior?10:19
OverEagerStudentSorry. Not thinking. In my /etc/crontab file there are two lines to call wget so that it automatically updates the list of valid 2 and three word TLDs (i.e. .co.uk). If the program is called as wget <options> it's fine. But if I make it /usr/bin/wget <options> then I keep getting errors like this in my syslog:10:21
OverEagerStudentglobal exception: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/run/systemd/generator/cron-crontab-/usr/bin/wget-0.sh'10:21
chalcedonyi don't know much about your problem OverEagerStudent (sorry) but maybe you have run into mine?10:23
chalcedony my husband is still / again having problems with his ubuntu 20.04. we tried booting it with nomodeset, but after that it puts out colored vertical lines a couple of times and then ends with a - in the top left corner, that blinks.10:24
OverEagerStudentNever heard of that one. I'm not very familiar with Ubuntu to be honest. I usually use Gentoo, but this is a hosting provider and they didn't have Gentoo as an option, so I decided I'd try this ubuntu that everyone is talking about.10:25
chalcedony:)10:25
chalcedonyUbuntu is generally good10:25
chalcedonyand easier than debian10:25
chalcedonybut it all depends on what you're used to10:26
OverEagerStudentIt would take some doing to be harder than debian.10:26
OverEagerStudentLet me see, just brainstorming, have you tried clearing all paramaters except those absolutely required form the kernel load line and adding vga=scan or vga=ask?10:27
OverEagerStudentYou might also want to try adding nofb to disable framebuffers. That's known to occasionally screw things jup. What GPU anyway?10:27
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chalcedonyOverEagerStudent, its nvidia10:37
OverEagerStudentchalcedony: Are you using the nvidia drivers or anything? Sounds like it could be a driver issue.10:37
chalcedonywe uploaded the proprietary drivers last night, after it was freezing every 15-30 mins..10:38
chalcedonyand then it was still freezing and quit booting10:38
cvelehi. I wanted to give ubuntu another try after 6 years and what I got is system booting, working a bit and then screen starts to flicker and you can't do anything. I could only go to other text tty. I tried both wayland and x. also, some programs don't start. The machine is DELL inspiron 15 3542 with integrated intel graphics.12:03
ThinkT510which release?12:05
cvele20.0412:10
ThinkT510I had the same issue on 20.04 with intel graphics. I had to use a newer kernel version. It only happened with kernel 5.4 for some reason.12:11
ThinkT510!mainline | cvele12:12
ubottucvele: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds12:12
cvelei'm on 5.812:14
ThinkT510testing different kernel versions can still help you to rule out whether it is a kernel/driver issue12:17
cveleI'll try some other kernel12:18
coconutcvele, i guess you can try linux-generic-hwe-20.04-edge also12:19
lotuspsychjecvele: was it flicker once you reach desktop.12:25
cveleyes, it flickers and desktop does not response to anything12:26
lotuspsychjecvele: i had an older bug like that, lemme find you the ID holdon12:27
lotuspsychjecvele: read first if its the same issue, if it is try #28 from bug #1838644 tomreyn used to find me a workaround12:28
ubottubug 1838644 in linux-hwe (Ubuntu) "Booting into desktop results in flickering" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183864412:28
Nixolahi, is Firefox for Ubuntu compiled with JACK support?13:06
Nixolaif not, is there a build available or should I build it on my own?13:10
tomreynhttps://jackaudio.org/applications/ : "Mozilla Firefox provides JACK support when compiled with custom build flags:" https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783733#c8113:13
ubottuMozilla bug 783733 in Audio/Video: cubeb "JACK audio output support [initial version] [cubeb]" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]13:13
tomreynabout:buildconfig shows the build options used to build firefox13:14
Nixolaguess it's time to build Firefox then13:21
pavloskontra2: please do not send pm unless agreed13:25
pavloschalcedony: if you have inxi installed, can you paste inxi -G13:33
BluesKajHowdy all13:47
NtemisE: Unable to locate package xserver-xorg-hwe-20.0413:48
NtemisE: Couldn't find any package by glob 'xserver-xorg-hwe-20.04'13:48
NtemisE: Couldn't find any package by regex 'xserver-xorg-hwe-20.04'13:48
Ntemisany ideas?13:49
Ntemishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack13:49
Ntemisguide taken from here13:49
WaltS48When will we see Thunderbird 78.x.x in the Software Updater? Version 78.6.1 will be released this week.13:50
tomreynNtemis: please use a pastebin, and ask a question, if you have one.13:50
Ntemisi have one yes13:50
Ntemiscan you help me install that?13:50
Ntemisis not in yet enabled or what?13:50
tomreynwhich ubuntu release are you running?13:51
Ntemis20.0413:51
tomreynthere's no HWE xserver-xorg for 20.04 at this time.13:52
Ntemiswhy is posted on webpage then?13:52
Ntemishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack13:52
Ntemistells us its should be there13:52
tomreyncopy + paste mistake, i would think13:53
Ntemisah ok13:53
Ntemisthanks gtk13:53
StarOnDHello everyone, I have an hp pavilion notebook. I am having issues with the live Ubuntu 20.04.1 it won't let me type using my keyboard. also it gives the error13:54
StarOnDPCI ebus error severity corrected13:55
StarOnDcan someone please help me?13:56
lotuspsychje!patience | StarOnD13:57
ubottuStarOnD: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/13:57
tomreynNtemis: thjanks for pointing out the error, i've updated the wiki page.13:58
StarOnDokay @ lotuspsychje 🙂13:58
Ntemisyou are welcome13:58
tomreynStarOnD: can you show the error message in context, or the full kernel log, on a pastebin?13:59
StarOnDtomreyn I am using irc on my phone. my computer is near useless14:00
tomreynStarOnD: try attaching an external keyboard, if you have one?14:00
tomreynStarOnD: also consider a bios upgrade14:01
tomreynWaltS48: the latest i've read about it (in #ubuntu-hardened): <mdeslaur> FYI I am told this is the current blocker for the thunderbird update: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/190182914:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1901829 in thunderbird (Ubuntu Groovy) "thunderbird fails to open, xml parse error" [High,Confirmed]14:03
Apachezanyone else experienced that vdpauinfo crashes with segment fault in ubuntu 20.04 LTS and 20.10?14:04
WaltS48tomreyn: Thanks for that.14:05
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tomreynApachez: poll-like questions usually don't get much response on this channel, which is for ubuntu support.14:07
Apacheztomreyn: ok then, I thought this was a help channel. How to fix this then?  Thread 1 "vdpauinfo" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x00007ffff6b72d78 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so14:08
Apachezusing ubuntu 20.10 with kernel 5.8.0-37-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 7 18:47:28 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux14:09
tomreynis this a full yupdated 20.04 or 20.10 system?14:09
tomreyndid you look for similar error reports, yet? bug 1908882 looks like it can be related14:10
ubottubug 1908882 in vdpauinfo (Ubuntu) "vdpauinfo always crashes on my system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190888214:10
ApachezI tried google without any luck which is why I ask in here with hope that someone perhaps already knows "ahh this is known, will be fixed on monday" or something14:10
tomreynthis package is in universe, seems ot be synced from debian, so check their BTS as well14:12
tomreynthis also means community support level14:12
Apachezdidnt know that #ubuntu on freenode was a payed service :P14:15
tomreyndebian's BTS on vdpauinfo is empty, though https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=vdpauinfo14:15
tomreyni'm trying to explain that packages in universe don't get the highest priority in bug fixing14:16
lotuspsychjeApachez: whats the command you are using to make it segfault please14:18
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: there's also an on-screen keyboard on gnome if you like14:19
StarOnDtomreyn my external keyboard also behaves similarly14:19
StarOnDthank you lotuspsychje14:19
tomreyngood suggestion there!14:19
StarOnDHello the on screen keyboard is also not typing14:35
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: i find that hard to believe14:35
StarOnDlol would I lie ?14:36
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: can you move your mouse to the onscreen keyboard and click the keys?14:36
StarOnDYes I can also I have a touch screen14:36
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: ok, so you can now provide the info tomreyn requested14:37
StarOnDthe keyboard is not responding14:37
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: you just said you can type on the onscreen keyboard with mouse?14:38
StarOnDwhen I click it does nothing14:38
lotuspsychjethats hard to believe14:38
StarOnDI can click but there is no response14:38
StarOnDwell I wish I could prove it14:39
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: are you in a setup or a live?14:40
StarOnDa normal hp laptop14:40
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: i mean the ubuntu 20.04 setup, or did you boot into the live desktop or did you full install?14:40
StarOnDhp pavilion14:40
StarOnDlive usb14:41
StarOnDI booted into the live usb14:41
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: did you try opening a terminal and mouseclick the onscreen keyboard?14:44
StarOnDI tried typing in the search bar of fire fox and a terminal14:44
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: and where did you see that PCI error you told us before?14:45
StarOnDtty414:45
StarOnDCtrl alt F414:45
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: how did you enter tty?14:45
lotuspsychjewithout a keyboard working14:45
StarOnDthe keyboard works in tty414:46
StarOnDnot in the gui14:47
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: so provide the logs from a tty requested before14:47
StarOnDhow do I paste then14:47
StarOnDthem14:47
lotuspsychjeStarOnD: termbin or pastebinit14:48
StarOnDokay I am hearing that for the first time14:48
StarOnDhold for 10 minutes14:49
rongx1anIs there a way to install 20.10 with openbox?14:50
pavlosrongx1an: latest openbox is 3.6.1-9, here's a deb ... http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/openbox/openbox_3.6.1-9_amd64.deb14:59
rongx1anpavlos, thanks for reply. I mean how to install base system first, and then X , and then openbox.15:01
pavlosrongx1an: you install 20.10, then update/upgrade it, then bring openbox, then on next login you don't select gdm but openbox. There are some guides online.15:03
pavlosrongx1an: here's a guide ... https://www.lifewire.com/install-openbox-using-ubuntu-405183215:04
david_fonskcuh15:14
david_fonskcanyone there?15:15
mefistofelessure15:15
david_fonskci kinda need help with something15:15
david_fonskcuh15:16
david_fonskci was tryna launch a program with wine15:16
david_fonskcand a window popped up saying15:16
david_fonskcfailed to load the launcher dll: module cannot be found15:17
david_fonskcwhat do i do?15:18
DiogoConstantinoHiall15:21
StarOnDtermbin.com/fb5a15:25
StarOnDthere you go15:26
StarOnDapologies for the delay15:26
StarOnDcan someone please take a look at the termbin?15:33
Apachezlotuspsychje: just     vdpauinfo15:34
Apachezit segfaults both as regular user and when runned through sudo15:34
ApachezLUMA_KEY_MIN_LUMA                -15:34
ApachezLUMA_KEY_MAX_LUMA                -15:34
ApachezSegmentation fault15:34
Apachezand then I get the prompt back and a dump in /tmp/dumps15:35
Apachezwhile vainfo (both with and without sudo) works without issues15:35
Apachezii  vdpauinfo                                  1.4-1                                         amd64        Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix (vdpauinfo utility)15:35
ioriaStarOnD, i suggest a 'lspci -nnk' to identify what device that '00:1c.4'ì is15:36
pavlosStarOnD: you could add pci=nommconf next to the quiet splash in /etc/default/grub, sudo update-grub and reboot15:36
StarOnDioria ok I will do that15:36
Apachezdmesg outputs   [48703.212428] vdpauinfo[20515]: segfault at 5619ce08ea5a ip 00007ff81a846d78 sp 00007fff51dc8540 error 4 in i965_dri.so[7ff81a3e0000+829000]       and then a 2nd line with "Code: "15:36
StarOnDtermbin.com/qf9015:37
StarOnDioria any hints? Pavlos ?15:38
ioriaStarOnD, Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express15:39
StarOnDok ioria what do I do about it15:40
ioriaStarOnD, i'd try  with a kernel parameter :  'pci=noaer'15:41
ioriaStarOnD, what's your kernel ?15:41
StarOnDI have Ubuntu 20.04.115:42
ioriaStarOnD, uname -r15:42
StarOnD5.4.0-42-generic15:43
StarOnDshould I combine Pavlos and ioria's suggestions15:44
ioriaStarOnD, i guess you need to update your system15:44
StarOnDsteps please. is there a hardware issue?15:45
pavlosStarOnD: either, try with pci=noaer first, then with pci=nommconf15:45
ioriaStarOnD, current kernel for focal 20.04 is 4.0.60 or  5.8.0-36-15:45
ioriaStarOnD,  i mean:  5.4.0.60 or 5.8.0-3615:46
ioriaStarOnD,  you know how to update the system  ?15:47
StarOnDhi again sorry i got disconnected15:53
StarOnDPavlos what should I do? I am confused15:54
pavlosStarOnD: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade ... it should bring the latest kernel15:54
StarOnDthat's all?15:55
StarOnDno /etc/default/grub15:55
jeremy31StarOnD: Why?15:56
pavlosStarOnD: then you can modify /etc/default/grub, next to quiet splash add pci=noaer, sudo update-grub, reboot15:56
sanbotHi i want to know do kububuntu and ubuntu have same release model ?16:06
pasizsanbot: yes, they follow same major release cycle16:07
jeremy31sanbot: kubuntu is just ubuntu with a different Desktop environment16:07
sanbotThank you all 🙏16:07
Maiksanbot: you can join #kubuntu if you like16:10
thebiffman_Hello. I am trying to setup a samba share ontop of my newly created raid 1 (mdadm raid) in my home network. I am having my usual trouble with access rights in linux. I want to be able to set read or read+write access on a per-user basis for the share/dir. After some searching it seems that ACLs could do the trick but I cant seem to get it to work. I can no longer access the share at all after adding my user to the acl rules. Its16:33
thebiffman_not a solution to simply change owner or something since I need to be able to set these permissions on several users, not just my user.16:33
thebiffman_Output from ls -lh: drwxrwxr-x+ 3 root root 4.0K Jan 10 13:28 data16:33
thebiffman_Results from getfacl command: https://pastebin.com/8K11Qpga16:33
thebiffman_I have set the share as writeable=yes in the samba configuration.16:33
arctikhi16:33
arctikI have this errors on ubuntu 20.04 trying to use qt6:16:34
fribIf I put in crontab: date | ssh me@remote 'cat > file' then file contains the date, but if I put: date +%s | sshme@remote 'cat > file' then file is unmodified. Why?16:34
arctiklibGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found16:34
arctiklibGL error: failed to load driver: swrast16:34
arctikQGLXContext: Failed to create dummy context16:34
arctikQRhiGles2: Failed to create temporary context16:34
arctikQRhiGles2: Failed to create context16:34
arctikFailed to create RHI (backend 2)16:35
arctikI use nvidia driver  34016:36
gnUserHi guys, is there a way to disable the right click and middle click button on a trackpad in ubuntu?16:36
SomeDamnBodyQuick question, for some reason, everytime I restart my computer, I have to run sudo alsa force-reload. Does anybody know why or what I could do to make it come up working without having to do that?16:36
banekondic996I hate linux, even this sites "freenode" registration process is time wasting16:37
mefistofeleshah16:38
mefistofelesSomeDamnBody: that16:38
banekondic996And this plss16:38
banekondic996Why is it hard to access root direcotry via file browser, why is it in "other locations" and not in quick access?16:38
banekondic996Why is there no create new file when i right click desktop or right click in any folder? I want to create script file fast...16:38
banekondic996Why is Rhythmbox player look like it's made in 90s with simple lists and no modern design at all? Isn't it 2020?16:38
banekondic996Why does System Monitor app look so simple with "processes" tab so non organized just plain simple list of running processes?16:38
banekondic996Why is there no option to change cursor icon, scrolling speed and mouse accleration in settings?16:38
mefistofelesSomeDamnBody: that's weird, aren't you using PulseAudio?16:38
mefistofelesbanekondic996: do not flood the channel, if you want to paste a large amount of text use something like bpaste.net16:39
garttbanekondic996: Use a real window manager like fluxbox and change the right click menu yourself. If you don't like it, simply change it16:39
gnUserbanekondic996, Rythmbox was made some time ago and uses GTK GUI elements that look like that.16:39
banekondic996Yea, but design should be improved. Also i believe those are things that are crucial.16:40
coconutbanekondic996, then go for macos16:40
garttModern design? Eye candy means nothing. Efficient usability means everything16:41
gnUserbanekondic996, a lot of people don't think it is crucial... a lot of people here use the terminal 99% of the time16:41
gnUserand I don't think it is crucial either tbh16:41
banekondic996As i hate linux, someone recommended to me to help to improve it, so here i'm. Oh i tryed mac os, it has blurry font i dont like anti aliasing on it. Well i guess some people just like to waste time typeing in terminal, can't help it16:41
john_ramboOn the back side of my Desktop 4 USB ports are Blue while others are not so I know the Blue ones are USB3. But the 2 ports on the front panel which are connected via a header cable ....How can I know if they are USB2 or USB3 ?16:41
garttWith linux, at least you can use whatever you want. And if the 20 million players don't work for you, you can write your own16:42
gnUserbanekondic996, "waste time typing in terminal" oh my poor child16:42
garttbanekondic996: Waste time typing on a terminal?16:42
banekondic996Gartt give me example what can i do more then in Windows?16:42
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mefistofelesI suggest not feeding the obvious troll16:42
gnUserlet him get back to his point and grunt ui16:43
banekondic996Oh common i can't install simple php 7.9 on CentOS 6 for 1 hour because of dependecies16:43
garttbanekondic996: Not have to install constantly-running anti-virus, not have to defragment, not have updates performed behind your back when you explicitly tell your system not to, which occurs at the worst time?16:43
garttbanekondic996: Also, the bash shell is far superior to the windows crap16:43
garttmefistofeles: Yeah, probably right16:43
gnUserHi guys, is there a way to disable the right click and middle click button on a trackpad in ubuntu?16:44
garttbanekondic996: Go and buy Windows or Apple and enjoy then. As they say, a fool and his money are soon parted16:44
banekondic996garatt Ubuntu now has updates also, and there is only remind me later button. Also Mac OS started doing same as windows. I never use anti virus on my windows, only when i suspect something i run malwarebytes na kaspersky but portable edition.16:44
banekondic996Only reason i would switch to Ubuntu is because Windows 10 became slower because of spyware16:45
garttbanekondic996: No, you can control when and how updates are applied, not just remind me later. That's in Windows and Apple. You can adjust in linux16:45
banekondic996I deleted all windows update dll and i don't have windows updates16:45
banekondic996I ran windows 10 1607 for 4 years16:45
thebiffman_Hahah16:45
banekondic9963.516:45
gnUser"I deleted all windows update dll and i don't have windows updates" good luck with that16:46
thebiffman_Thats very good from a security point of view I guess16:46
banekondic996But as i bought gtx 1660 i couldnt install drivers on 160716:46
garttbanekondic996: Well, there's nothing wrong with windows updates, but not being able to control when they apply (such as when you're in a hurry or about to enter a meeting) is BS16:46
banekondic996Well it worked for me16:46
garttbanekondic996: I drink the blood of squirrels and I haven't gotten cancer yet, so I guess that worked for me too16:47
gnUserhahahha16:47
NapsterbaterAll I am hearing is "I ran a unptached/vunerable Windows for 4 years..."16:47
garttIt doesn't mean it's effective16:47
thebiffman_I much prefer to run windows on my daily driver but I can recognize that linux seems unnecessarily complex to me because I have only used it when needed instead of all day every day like windows :) Handling file and folder access rights always gets me in the end whatever I try do :D16:47
banekondic996Napsterbater Security is just a imagination, anything can be broken. All information goes to Microsoft, Google, Facebook anyway, even if you use linux theres backdoor in chipsets16:48
gnUserhahahah omfg16:48
banekondic996All i want is working OS with no updates16:48
garttthebiffman_: I think the opposite. My 97 year old grandpa couldn't understand windows, but I threw debian on it and configured it just right and he had no issues - and I never had to worry about him accidentally clicking links to malware16:48
gnUsergive me your bank password then16:48
garttbanekondic996: You can greatly close security gaps with your actions16:49
banekondic996Wasn't SeLinux made by NSA? Google it16:49
garttbanekondic996: Doing that is the #1 way to sabotage the security of your system. The ostrich approach with your head in the sand16:49
thebiffman_gartt: My problem right now is that I cannot set corect access rights on a folder. It was easier setting up a software raid than getting samba up and running with correct access rights. That, at least in my eyes, is so much simpler in windows. Simply add user and select "full access" and that user has full access. Nothing else.16:49
garttbanekondic996: Yes it was - so? It's also open source, so any deviousness is an open book16:49
gnUserwhat a noob16:50
garttthebiffman_: I don't use the desktop environment, so I wouldn't know. In bash, everything works fine16:50
thebiffman_I have no desktop environment either16:50
thebiffman_But I am having trouble getting it to work either way.16:50
Tailsme too16:50
gnUserthebiffman_, what do you use for browsing the web?16:50
pavlosthebiffman_: you could add your users to a secondary group (office) and tell the samba share valid users = @office, also change the location to have group office and perms 77016:51
banekondic996Maybe just have good router with good firewall, can that help ?16:51
thebiffman_I know that ubuntu will be a better choice for my home server than windows server, hence why I chose it. On my desktop I use Win10.16:51
garttbanekondic996: Everything helps. And ufw makes rules very easy in ubuntu16:51
thebiffman_pavlos: Then how do I set read only for 1 user, but read and write for the next?16:52
garttthebiffman_: Even as a windows user at work and until my 20s, I find most linux distros far easier and less complicated to use16:52
gnUserthebiffman_, I believe you need to add these users to different groups and then assign the permissions on a group basis16:52
garttInstalling debian, slackware, ubuntu, etc just works. No BS16:53
pavlosthebiffman_: if you want one user to R, then the share would be readable by all16:53
thebiffman_Well, no matter how easy it seems to you, I have sat here for a couple of hours and still cannot copy a file from a windows computer to my samba share... But the RAID 1 with mdadm took 30 mins to setup completely.16:53
thebiffman_pavlos: Hmm yes maybe that is solution. Others = Read. Certain group: r+w.16:54
thebiffman_hmm16:54
banekondic996You know what bothered me the most in CentOS and Ubuntu and some others is terminal windows resizeing, i just couldn't hit the spot to change arrow to resize the window -_-, till this newer versions.16:54
banekondic996gartt I find it more difficult to use Linux and i see it as time waste16:54
oerheksbanekondic996, do you have a real support question? your opinion is valuable, but more suitable for #ubuntu-discuss16:54
banekondic996Ohh ok. So can i like improve desing of rythmbox player ?16:55
banekondic996design*16:55
oerhekssure there are themes to fancy up rhytmbox16:55
thebiffman_banekondic996: What player did you use when using windows? Just curious.16:55
banekondic996Why doesn't it look good as default?16:55
banekondic996Groove, and it fine16:55
coconut...or different music players16:55
oerheksit does look good16:55
banekondic996And forgot name before it16:55
banekondic996I do use VLC even if it look bad, i use it for videos16:56
oerheksone does not have to look to rythmbox, just listen16:56
oerhekslolz16:57
ExcessiveAggroMorning all! or afternoon depending on where you are16:57
oerhekshi ExcessiveAggro16:58
banekondic996Mac OS is really good looking and BSD based and i like it, but i can't fix font rendering on it. Also i now havee gtx 1660 and it's not supported by macos. And i hate dock it's wasting space.16:58
ExcessiveAggroI have a snap package that needs to run a command that resides in the underlying ubuntu OS.  Is there a way to make that happen?  Specifically I am running NextCloud and it needs to run GEOIPLookup that is installed in the parent OS16:58
thebiffman_Do you guys know how filesystem ACLs work? Can they override normal user,group,others rights? It seems to me that if you use ACL you have two levels of settings all of sudden... But it does give you per-user settings which is what I really want.16:58
banekondic996Ok, guys but when installing apps, why do sites give you what to writte in terminal and what repositories to add, Why just not have pacakage or script for download ?16:59
thebiffman_banekondic996: So that its easy to update later I would guess. Otherwise you would have to manually update each app17:00
oerheksExcessiveAggro, i think in softwarecenter > installed > nextcloud > permissions you find these options to go outside the homefolder17:01
banekondic996thebiffman_ How so? Site can change script, upload new package. Also you still update it manually17:02
oerheksbanekondic996, what site?17:02
ExcessiveAggrooerheks, My snaps don't seem to show up in the installed section of the software center17:03
oerhekswe recoomend our softwarecenter17:03
thebiffman_banekondic996: But when you would have to go to the site and run the new scripts manually. Instead of just running apt update and get them.17:03
banekondic996oerheks any site with app installation guide using commands. thebiffman_ Ok, well then just downloadable .sh script that does it for you17:04
leftyfbbanekondic996: feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic. This is a support channel17:05
oerheks'any site' is not supported, why would we?17:05
banekondic996@oerheks Ok @leftygb This is about Ubuntu, what is this channel topic?17:07
oerheksExcessiveAggro, i do see them https://imgur.com/gallery/t6rO2dF17:07
ExcessiveAggrooerheks - Sorry I'm dumb this morning... i was opening the software center on my PC and not on my server lol17:08
banekondic996Guy's i asked these questions and your not answering https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7GGVM62zxw/17:10
banekondic996Can i improve rythmbox design by contributing or not, i don't want people to have shitty looking player for music.17:10
ExcessiveAggrobanekondic996 - I can answer some of these but need a few minutes.  I'm looking up some other answers for some other questions above17:11
jayjoIs there a way to determine if a system can boot from UEFI if the installer chose to use BIOS?17:11
jayjoI am comparing a small NUC installation to a desktop. One has a boot partition mounted at /boot/efi and the other at /boot (the one using BIOS). I believe they can both boot from UEFI, and because I'd like to keep disk layouts as similar as possible I'm trying to find out where they diverged17:12
ExcessiveAggrothebiffman - I did some googling and everythin I find about your ACL question says that ACLs and standard *nix permissions work in tandem.  So it is feasible you could block in one, allow in the other, and the result would be "no access"17:12
oerheksfor those filemanager issues, look into nautilius-actions, nautilus-admin and other plugins, see synaptic17:13
ExcessiveAggrothe Intent of ACL is to expand the functionality of standard *nix permissions - for scenarios that standard permissions do not allow17:13
oerheks!synaptic17:13
ubottuSynaptic is a graphical utility which can install and remove software packages (.deb). For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto17:13
oerheksa more detailed softwarecenter.17:13
oerheksand ugly Rythmbox.. use a theme, or just listen17:13
ExcessiveAggrobanekondic996 - "Why is it hard to access root direcotry via file browser, why is it in "other locations" and not in quick access?"  || This is the same on all operating systems including Mac and Windows.  Typically users should not be working outside of their home directory so they make it a couple more steps to get to '/'.  If you are someone who uses '/' often you can add to bookmarks17:15
banekondic996@oerheks I love synaptic, fixes everything for me for installing. I used it before when i had older Ubuntu. But for file manager issue, i just hope there will be integration that you don't have to install or tweak stuff when you install OS.17:16
oerheksnautilus-admin fixes that17:16
thebiffman_FYI: Think I found out why my samba share stopped working after adding ACLs. Seems that execute right was needed to browse the share...17:16
ExcessiveAggroclick "other locations", select your drive, then click "computer" at the top and select "add to bookmarks"17:16
thebiffman_Need to do more testing with different users but seems to work now..17:16
banekondic996As i remeber it was included before in older Ubuntu but not anymore17:16
oerhekswell, sorry to tell you, you have to fix this yourself, i just gave a hint how17:16
banekondic996remember17:16
oerheksnext?17:17
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banekondic996ExcessiveAggro Oh ok, thanks for answer. I do use / a lot.17:18
ExcessiveAggrobanekondic996 - "Why is there no create new file when i right click desktop or right click in any folder? I want to create script file fast..." || My personal opinion on this is that the desktop isn't used quite the same on linux so the right click context menus are not as robust in all scenarios.  However the good news is that you can make it more robust unlike other operating systems.  Here is a link to create d17:19
ExcessiveAggroocuments like you suggest : https://ostechnix.com/how-to-add-new-document-option-in-right-click-context-menu-in-ubuntu-18-04/17:19
ExcessiveAggrobanekondic996: "Why does System Monitor app look so simple with "processes" tab so non organized just plain simple list of running processes?" || No linux distribution will be great at everything.  Instead they put in defaults apps that are simple and stable.  But you can grow out of those packages by installing things that are better for you.  For this question I would take a look here: https://www.ubuntupit.com/17:24
ExcessiveAggrobest-linux-task-manager-top-12-reviewed-for-linux-nerds/17:24
ExcessiveAggrobanekondic996: "Why do app instaling require typing in terminal, cant you make it more simple? Like why don't site just make downloadable scripts that do it for you, why lose time typing?" || I think this is just a difference in philosophy.  When I used windows/mac I would search the web for software, download, install, hope that it didnt have viruses.  Now search the web for the task I am trying to get done, open17:27
ExcessiveAggro my terminal and type "sudo apt install <x>" and I'm fairly certain the software is safe.  No doubt a GUI might make things easier but typing didnt really slow me down.17:27
ExcessiveAggroAnd for the record... these .deb packages actually are a collection of scripts, binaries, etc. that make installation easier :) Before packages you were in a world of hurt figuring out versions, dependencies, compile options, etc.17:29
ExcessiveAggroI'd like to get in to your other questions but I need to help the wife out with a few things.  Hope these few answers get you moving a little17:31
banekondic996Well thank you for your answers ExcessiveAggro. The shortcut for making documents really makes it easier for me, also Synaptic is golden i just forgot about it as i used it on Ubuntu 10.04 or 11.04.17:31
banekondic996For rythmbox i'l try to contribute for design17:31
slicktuxAnyone else loose their WiFi drivers and unable to startx after latest update?18:06
Maiksigh... impatient18:10
tempted2raceHello18:18
tempted2raceCan someone help me out with display resolutions? I have an old laptop running Ubuntu Desktop 20.04 with Noveau drivers. My laptop is capable of 1920x1080 but it only offers 1920x1080i and it looks awful (fuzzy)18:19
tempted2raceI have googled it and see xrandr is something that may help... but I don't understand how they get the values they put in the command... or if some of them are even necessary.18:21
pavlostempted2race: use cvt to get the modelines then add them to xrandr18:22
pavlostempted2race: example: cvt 1920 108018:22
tempted2racepavlos ok18:22
pavlostempted2race: example: then xrandr --newmode "the info that came from cvt"18:24
tempted2raceFrom the Modeline response?18:24
tempted2racepavlos # 1920x1080 59.96 Hz (CVT 2.07M9) hsync: 67.16 kHz; pclk: 173.00 MHz18:25
tempted2raceModeline "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync18:25
pavlostempted2race: cvt 1920 1080 gives me Modeline "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync18:25
pavlostempted2race: correct18:25
tempted2raceDo I use addmode then?18:28
tempted2racesorry18:28
tempted2raceyes... actually... I used newmode... now I should use addmode?18:28
pavlostempted2race: yex, xrandr --addmode DEVICE 1920x1080_60.00   where DEVICE could be VGA-0 or LAPTOPdevice18:29
pavlosyes*18:29
tempted2raceahh... HDMI-118:29
pavlostempted2race: and finally, xrandr --output HDMI-1 1920x1080_60.0018:30
pavlostempted2race: these are my notes from 3 years ago, things may have changed18:31
pavlostempted2race: edit ... xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080_60.00   (forgot the --mode part)18:32
tempted2racethank you18:33
pavlosyw18:33
tempted2racelol... I was just about to write i was having trouble...18:33
tempted2racepavlos well it accepted the commands18:35
tempted2racepavlos but I have a pop-up saying there's a system error18:35
tempted2racehappened with addmode too18:35
tempted2racepavlos I may need to reinstall18:36
pavlostempted2race: can you screenshot that popup18:36
tempted2raceNot a lot to tell... typical "System program problem detected - Do you want to report the problem now? Cancel Report Problem...18:37
pavlostempted2race: so that's a second monitor hdmi connected to the laptop?18:37
tempted2raceYes... it's an old laptop BTW... Dell XPS from around 201118:38
tempted2raceI've had trouble with Nvidia drivers18:38
tempted2racebut Nvidia gave me 1920x1080... it would freeze the system after random amounts of time18:38
pavlostempted2race: laptop model?18:39
tempted2raceDell XPS L502X18:39
pavlosubuntu 20.04 ?18:39
tempted2raceYup... 20.04 LTS18:40
tempted2racepavlos I'm losing faith in this laptop18:41
pavloswell, I'm looking for specs ... says this laptop has onboard HD3000 and nvidia gt52518:42
soft_concreteHi, when I use Ubuntu in Wayland mode after using a GNOME session for a while, I get these odd borders around windows and UI elements within the windows, where my desktop wallpaper shows through. Have any of you experienced this? What might be the cause?18:42
tempted2racepavlos actually... it's 540M18:43
tempted2raceDidn't know about the HD300018:43
soft_concretealmost all intel CPUs (all the consumer ones, AFAIK) have an iGPU18:43
tempted2racek18:43
pavlosthis is very old post ... https://hanynowsky.wordpress.com/2012/04/07/dell-xps-15-l502x-ubuntu-linux/18:44
soft_concretewhat's the issue you're having with the laptop?18:44
pavlossoft_concrete: he's using nouveau driver, screen is fuzzy so he tries to add a mode with xrandr18:45
tempted2raceI have stability issues when using Nvidia drivers (390)18:46
tempted2raceI was pretty solid a while back. I have tried different kernels with Nvidia too but it didn't seem to help18:47
tempted2race*It18:47
pasiznvidia GT / GTX 5XX are prone to crash with nouveau18:47
locsmifHi all. I need a somewhat functioning Ubuntu LiveCD with which to view and salvage some files off of a broken Windows 7 install. I'm helping a friend. The regular ISO would take him 45 minutes. The netboot ISO doesn't seem like has much to work with. Is there something in between.18:47
tempted2race:/18:47
soft_concretelocsmif: do you know how big the regular ISO is? I'll see if what I'm thinking of is significantly smaller. Also, does it have to be Ubuntu?18:48
pavloslocsmif: you can boot with puppy linux, mount the win7 drive and cp files18:49
locsmifsoft_concrete: yes, about 2.7 GB18:49
LiveWiresoft_concrete: I own a concrete company, your nick?18:49
soft_concreteLiveWire: something I chose at random18:49
locsmifpavlos: puppy linux anything like Ubuntu?18:49
LiveWirereally random :)18:50
soft_concretelocsmif: most linux distros are very similar. which features of Ubuntu do you need18:50
pavloslocsmif: no basic linux, use command line18:50
graczNR6Some versions of Puppy are compatible with Ubuntu18:50
soft_concreteperhaps you want the GNOME desktop? or do you not need a graphical interface?18:50
graczNR6GNOME can always be installed18:51
pavloslocsmif: puppy linux is small, 300M, give it a test drive. It has file manager and other stuff but easy to work with18:51
tempted2racepavlos rebooting18:52
pavlosfingers crossed18:52
pavloslocsmif: http://puppylinux.com/screenshots.html18:54
locsmifI'm not going to be able to use a terminal-based Linux, my friend doesn't know his way around on that18:54
locsmifOf course, I do, but he doesn't18:54
soft_concreteit seems like puppy is the recommendation18:55
pavloslocsmif: there is a fossa puppy 64 bit, 409M see this page, http://puppylinux.com/18:56
soft_concrete400MB... should take 10 mins18:56
pavlosI'll try it on a vm ...18:56
locsmifpavlos: does that have any sort of desktop environment?18:59
soft_concretelocsmif: it does, but not the same as Ubuntu18:59
soft_concretelocsmif: here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=qibxDA_Kxdk&feature=emb_logo18:59
soft_concreteI mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qibxDA_Kxdk19:00
tempted2racepavlos hey... well.. no luck...19:01
pavloslocsmif: yes, ubuntu-like (the fossa puppy19:01
tempted2racepavlos But i did not know that the Problem Detected eventually gives details19:01
pavlostempted2race: maybe you can blacklist nvidia and let it install the onboard HD3000 driver19:02
tempted2raceAt least as far as I recall from a year ago I never got details from Problem Detected dialogs19:02
tempted2racepavlos that's an interesting thought19:02
tempted2race00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)19:03
tempted2race01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 540M] (rev a1)19:03
pavlostempted2race: that old article says to use bumblebee (never used it)19:08
pavloslocsmif: this is how fossa puppy looks, https://imgur.com/a/FeqpbKk19:14
oerheksthat card usually runs best on the 340, AFAIK19:16
pavlostempted2race: install nvidia-340 per oerheks suggestion19:17
locsmifpavlos, thanks for the tip19:18
locsmifpavlos: looking into it, multitasking atm19:18
pavloslocsmif: no worries, Linux is fun19:19
locsmifpavlos, haha I know, I was a distro co-dev :P19:19
tempted2raceok19:20
tempted2raceI'll try 34019:20
locsmifDoesn't mean I'm that up-to-date on all the various flavours on DistroWatch :P19:20
tempted2racelast time I tried it I got an error at the very end19:20
pavlostempted2race: make sure you have no nvidia installed, (dpkg -l | grep nvidia) then try to install -34019:24
tempted2raceI see nvidia still in there19:25
tempted2race390 and 34019:25
tempted2raceapt purge nvidia*?19:26
tempted2racefrom recovery mode?19:26
pavlostempted2race: yes, purge them, make sure it reboots to nouveau and then try sudo apt install nvidia-34019:26
pavlostempted2race: I think it is, sudo apt install nvidia-driver-34019:27
ningudid something recently happen in ubuntu that might cause a host's ssh key to change automatically? or could that only be done manually?19:29
lordcirthningu, maybe if you did a do-release-upgrade?19:29
lordcirthOr you had your server config changed to allow old key formats19:30
ninguno, it's been on 20.04 all along19:30
ningusomething happened on December 27 and I'm trying to figure out what19:30
ninguone sec, I'll paste what I found from auth.log19:30
ninguok: https://pastebin.com/6zEFt77U19:31
ninguit rebooted at the same time, 17:5419:31
ningunot sure what the password for ubuntu user is all about, either19:32
ninguthis is on AWS so conceivably it was initiated by them? but that seems unlikely19:32
ninguI don't see any record there of the ssh key being regenerated per se but the mod time on the file shows it was then19:33
lordcirthningu, perhaps cloud-init19:33
ninguthis is a stand-alone AWS instance and not managed by anything else19:34
ninguit would have to be something AWS imposed/required or whatever19:34
ninguany idea what the ^@ business in auth.log is?19:36
fribHow can I stop my wifi from being turned off randomly? Wifi power saving is on but turning off doesn't help19:37
graczNR6Maybe some hardware problem?19:37
fribgraczNR6, like what?19:38
fribthe physical switch to enable wifi is on19:39
graczNR6No. Do you have USB dongle or built in?19:39
fribbuilt in19:40
graczNR6Check drivers19:41
fribok how?19:41
graczNR6Some cards require drivers. You can install them in "Additional drivers"19:41
fribok I use a different desktop19:42
fribhow can I run that from terminal?19:42
pavlosningu: seems user root changed the password for user ubuntu that day (dec 2719:42
graczNR6frib: i don't know. It's GNOME specific19:51
fribok. so there must be a way to check drivers from terminal19:51
graczNR6GNOME has a nice gui that does everything for you19:52
oerhekswhat desktop does not give the driver update tool?19:53
fribI use fluxbox19:53
fribwhat should I do about this also btw19:54
fribE: Could not configure 'libc6:i386'.19:54
fribE: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgcc-s1:i386'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)19:54
fribwhen installing wine6419:54
oerheks sudo ubuntu-drivers list/autoinstall19:54
friblist showed nothing19:55
fribNo drivers found for installation19:55
oerheksthen the wifi driver you already have is the one you should use..19:55
fribyes I didnt' think otherwise19:56
oerheksprobably already a kernelmodule19:56
fribthe issue is that my wifi is apparently stuck on power saving mode19:56
fribso it shuts off randomly when I don't want it to19:56
fribI Tried: sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf && systemctl restart network-manager.service19:56
fribbut that doesn't help19:57
oerhekssee with the lspci output  if that is a known issue19:57
oerheksthe 8 digit hex number is important19:57
fribyeah vendor product ok19:57
frib10:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6200 (rev 35)19:58
fribthis is it right19:58
fribbut theres no id19:58
fribalso a strange thing is that in gnome-control-center when I turn of the option to turn off wifi to save power, it immediately turns my wifi off19:59
pavloswhich kernel do you have?19:59
frib5.4.0-59-generic #65-Ubuntu19:59
varaindemianevernote or google notes?20:17
varaindemianon ubuntu20:17
tempted2racepavlos I had to fix something else (clothes dryer :D  )... apt purge nvidia* doesn't find anything... but dpkg -l | grep nvidia shows items from both nvidia 340 and 39020:18
tempted2racemaybe dpkg -r nvidia* and libnvidia*?20:20
tempted2race(or enumerate each item if wildcard doesn't work there)20:20
black_13i have been trying to use schroot to do a chroot but getting https://bpa.st/KGAQ20:23
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ZajtHey! I am running these commands https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cSRdShrCCj/ when I try to install dotnet on my ubuntu 20.04 according to https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/install/linux-ubuntu  But I get this error: https://imgur.com/Ug4bauc - any ideas ?20:37
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arooniok so taskwarrior is latest version according to the package: taskwarrior is already the newest version (2.5.1+dfsg-9). ;; but if i install over it from source20:40
arooniam i messing things up20:40
aroonib/c source is 2.5.320:40
aroonibut there's no ppa apparently20:40
lordcirth__arooni, don't put your install over the package files; install it elsewhere and remove the package20:42
aroonithats what i figured20:44
aroonibut what happens if you made the mistake20:44
arooniand installed it over itself?20:44
arooniin this case i dontw ant to lose any config files20:44
arooniso i would do sudo apt-get remove   but not the --purge?20:44
_jakhi! How do you get an LTS install to use a new kernel by default? I have installed linux-generic-hwe-20.04-edge installed, and I have the headers for the 5.8 kernel installed, but I can't figure out how to use it at boot20:47
oerheksZajt, maybe the snap is a better idea; https://snapcraft.io/dotnet-sdk20:47
oerheks_jak, usually just update, and grub would put the latest kernel in front20:48
Zajtyeah that worked like a charm, thanks oerheks20:49
oerhekshit esc or shift to enter the grub menu while booting20:49
oerheks!grub20:49
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:49
_jakoerheks: That's what I thought would happen, but after rebooting, I'm still on 5.4 rather than 5.820:51
_jakeven in the advanced options, 5.8 isn't in the list20:51
_jakI think this may be because I'm using zsys, the zfs implementation, which I think does something different with regard to /boot20:52
Kon_jak:  sudo apt install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-20.0420:56
KonHWE is the new kernel that comes with point releases20:56
oerhekslinux-generic-hwe-20.04-edge <>  linux-generic-hwe-20.0420:59
oerheksyeah, not sure what is valid now21:00
_jakbut isn't it the case that hwe-20.04-edge is also valid, and just a newer kernel than hwe-20.04?21:03
jeremy31_jak: I don't think edge really exists right now as there isn't a supported kernel newer than 5.821:04
_jakjeremy31: meaning that installing the package is a no-op?21:05
jeremy31_jak: both packages point at the same kernel right now21:06
_jakI should mention that I tried hwe-20.04 first and it didn't work, so I tried hwe-20.04-edge21:06
_jakjeremy31: ah that makes sense21:06
_jakI think I have some more investigating to do, but it looks like there's a bug in zsys that I'm running into21:10
jwashwhat's the best way to compress and archive a data directory with millions of files?21:31
jwashI think the solution is: export GZIP=-9 && tar cvzf file.tar.gz /path/to/directory21:33
misternumberonehello I have the "inverse"/opposite of this problem https://askubuntu.com/questions/1142052/how-to-disable-select-audio-device-pop-up-on-ubuntu-18-04. I want to see the popup, but I don't currently. Installing that extension, enabling it, then disabling it has no effect, so that solution seems to be "one-way".21:36
misternumberoneI am able to use the combination speaker/microphone devices's microphone by selecting the device manually in audio settings. however I would like to see the popup to be able to select it more conveniently21:37
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makara1im on the hunt again for a PDF annotation tool. Any suggestions?21:48
barglooking at these instructions https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/20/admin_manual/installation/example_ubuntu.html it says  tar -xjfv nextcloud-x.y.z.tar.bz2   but when I do it  tar -xjfv nextcloud-20.0.4.tar.bz2  I get an error https://gist.githubusercontent.com/gartha1/3223ec1fbc07ee5e0cff15a0440eaad2/raw/e5f7c58eacd831d1ee64707065cb23ddf641a47d/gistfile1.txt   "tar (child): v: Cannot open:21:52
bargNo such file or directory"  and if I do it with ./ then still same error so tar -xjfv ./nextcloud-20.0.4.tar.bz2    same error21:52
bargI guess perhaps there's an error in their document and the -v should be before the -f .21:54
Seveasbarg correct21:55
oerheksbarg, we support the snap version22:01
oerhekshttps://snapcraft.io/nextcloud22:02
jeremy31barg tar -xjvf nextcloud-20.0.4.tar.bz222:05
bargthanks22:15
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grizzly_btwhowdy everyone :)22:37
tete_hi, i have problems in resizing my window(s). the marker when i use the mouse is way too small and its hard to hit it for resizing. can someone tell me if its possible to make this bigger?22:56
tete_i have to exactly hit the corner of a window to resize it, which is quiet hard22:56
oerheksalt + F8 = resize shortkey23:04
tomreyntete_: alt + middle mouse button somewhere roughly near the window border23:05
tete_nothing happens with alt + middle mouse button23:05
tomreynwhich ubuntu version and variant are you running?23:06
tete_also nothing happens when i hit alt + f8, i use xubuntu23:06
tomreyn...23:06
oerheksoh, good to mention what ubuntu, default is gnome323:07
tete_my bad ;)23:07
tomreynalt-f1 should be resize on xfce23:07
tomreynbut xubuntu specific questions are best asked in #xubuntu23:07
oerheksalt + f8 should work, unless the page is maximised23:08
tomreynhttps://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/ *may* still apply23:08
tete_i was holding alt + f1 and now i have a window open which does not disappear, looks like the whisker menu23:09
tomreynpress escape then23:09
tete_does not help23:09
tomreynask in #xubuntu :)23:10
tete_i'll try xkill, hope i do not hit the background23:10
tete_its un-kill-able 0o23:10
tete_i ask in xubuntu, thanks23:10
thetejuEthernet connection stopped working23:12
thetejuPlease help.23:13
thetejulshw -C network show the hardware23:13
thetejuI tried two different ethernet adapter. and a usb adapter,, it just doen't get online23:13
thetejuSomeone please help23:14
thetejui am on 20.0423:14
thetejuKUbuntu23:14
tomreyntheteju: hi. when did it stop working? were you upgrading kubuntu or rebooting, or something?23:15
thetejuWe had a power outage.. and it stopped working after that23:15
oerheksdid you try to reboot the router?23:16
tomreyndo you run other operating systems on this system other than kubuntu?23:16
theteju@tomreyn : NO this is the only system on the drive.23:16
tomreynwhat about the router?23:17
theteju@oerheks : everything else seems to get onine fine. Router is doing its job.23:17
tomreynfully power down the computer, and power it up again, try again.23:18
theteju@tomreyn : I tried that too.23:18
tomreyntheteju: post   journalctl -kb | nc termbin.com 999923:20
thetejuTemporary failure in name resolution23:22
tomreyntheteju: post   journalctl -kb | nc 5.39.93.71 999923:22
thetejunewer ubuntu does not have /etc/network/interfaces file anymore?23:23
thetejuI came accross a post says, it now uses netplan!!23:24
tomreynon servers, desktops use network-manager by default. neither use /etc/network/interfaces by default23:24
tomreynyou should read release notes23:25
thetejuI do not have ifup , ifdown commands to troubleshoot. Fact is in am lost considering where to start to have manually configure my eth card so that it gets online.23:26
tomreynkubuntu is a desktop system. what did i tell you about desktop systems?23:27
tomreynthey use network-manager by default. there's a graphical interface to it, but also nmcli as a command lin einterface23:28
tomreynthere is also the 'ip' command you can also use to manage and configure an ethernet network interface23:29
theteju@tomreyn : roger that. I appreciate your replies,,23:30
tomreynyour specific issue seems to be around name resolution23:30
thetejuIt appears that my eth0 and/or eth1 both cards are unclaimed.23:30
tomreynbut that's a bit of a guess based on the only (one) error / warning message we've seen from youtr system so far23:30
fribhow can I get the vendor/product id of my wifi card?23:44
tomreynlspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 999923:45
theteju@tomreyn : sorry i got disconnected23:46
nmatrixHi All, running a Ubunt 20.04 on a Asus Tuf A17, when I try to use virtualbox 6.1.16 I'm getting a Kernel: [ 151.290782]: skb_under_panic: text:ffffffffffc0d14f40 len: 244 put:48 head:ffff9f56c9c33800 data:ffff9f56c9c337f2 tail:0xe6 end 0x2c0 dev:wlp3s0-v223:47
nmatrixThis is using a bridged adapter network configuration with wlp3s0-v2.23:47
nmatrixUsing a  bridged network adapter connection for a few minutes on Virtualbox freezes the entire machine in a few minutes.23:48
tomreyntheteju: no problem, unstable router?23:49
theteju@tomreyn : router is solid. stable.23:50
tomreynthen why the disconnect?23:50
tomreynnmatrix: can oyu post    journalctl -kb | nc termbin.com 999923:50
thetejuifconfig does not even list eth0 only "lo"23:51
thetejuloopback23:51
black_13are the debug versions of all or some packages23:51
nmatrix@tomreyn I got back "https://termbin.com/p112"23:52
tomreyntheteju: this should list identified network hardware: lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller'23:52
nmatrixtomreyn I got back "https://termbin.com/p112"23:53
theteju@tomreyn : lspci show both ethernet adapters on the system23:54
thetejusomething messed up with network manager ,, that It does not see my cards. (I guess)23:54
tomreynnmatrix: ah this is full of UFW logs to the end. alsom, there's an amdgpu kernel oops. but i guess that's unrelated.23:56
tomreynnmatrix: try whether it works better with ufw disabled, though.23:56
josspykernetwork manager is always the problem. Since 6.04 it is still a piece of shit23:57
jeremy31josspyker: complain upstream about it23:57
josspykerno use23:58
tomreynit won't help support anyways23:58
josspykertrue, just frustation.23:58
tomreynnmatrix: also, post    journalctl -b | grep -v UFW | nc termbin.com 999923:58
tomreyntheteju: so it's just a matter of configuration then23:59
tomreyntheteju: nmcli d; nmcli c23:59

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