=== denningsrogue7 is now known as denningsrogue === Ringtailed_Fox is now known as RingtailedFox [00:51] on 16.06I set iface eth0 inet6 dhcp autoconf 0 [00:52] oh wait, never mind :) [01:04] tomreyn, apologies for dropping off last night. Connection was down and I had to head to bed. Here's a photo of the debug messages at the point of freeze: https://imgur.com/a/XkdGgK0 [01:07] I also tried booting a live Fedora USB (latest version), and it froze seemingly similarly. I wonder if there was some update to the kernel between Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 (that's also in more recent Fedora) that's causing the freeze [01:33] what am i missing in this purging https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5z3MD9Fw4R/ [01:49] gebbione: I see the ppa-purge command as ' sudo ppa-purge ppa:ansible/ansible '. [01:50] !ppa-purge | gebbione [01:50] gebbione: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [01:51] i tried that too with another package [01:51] when i grep for the ppa it is still there [01:52] for instance for /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dupeguru-ubuntu-ppa-bionic.list:deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/dupeguru/ppa/ubuntu bionic main [01:52] i have run -> sudo ppa-purge -o ppa:dupeguru/ppa ... but dupeguru is still installed [01:53] i ll try without the -o [01:55] doesnt work ... i guess it does not like those warnings i see and exists [01:55] gebbione: Was once on the wish list that when ppa-purge completed to also remove the source - I do not know that is now in effect. [02:15] btw do you know what is the benefit of upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04, is there like a release page or an article/summary that suggests what would change? === zbenjamin is now known as Guest1364 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:18] gebbione: Uh Huh - see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes . [02:19] gebbione: I do note that 20.04 (xubuntu) runs faster for me than 18.04 did. [02:29] Good afternoon [02:31] Ubuntu is a shit i prefer windows [02:32] marchesini: You are free to make that choice :P [02:33] really though? [02:33] Would better that Linux dont exists [02:35] Will take much time to kick me? [02:36] Lol [02:36] in an open world, without fences and walls, who needs gates and windows [02:37] Canonical does [02:37] xD [02:39] Im using fedora [02:39] Good distro [02:40] I use ubuntu for 5 years [02:40] What hell ibm is making with centos!!! [02:40] business maybe? [02:41] Money money money [02:41] Hello. Where is the man page for posix_spawnattr_init? [02:42] fgasper: 3 [02:43] Sorry, I mean which package? I have the man page for posix_spawnp but not for posix_spawnattr_init. [02:43] Thank you! [02:43] section 3 [02:44] I mean, which dpkg/apt package? [02:45] I never had ear about this, but i really think that google have the answer [02:46] Google has a man page for it, but I don’t think it pertains to Ubuntu because the man page I find online for posix_spawnp doesn’t mention the GNU-specific extensions that Ubuntu’s man page for that function discusses. [02:49] Which opensource project works is developed with react and java, that i can help on my free time [02:50] I never cooperated with the community, i love to do this someday [03:06] hi [03:06] i've just run a rather memory intensive process which made use of some of the swap space. now that the process has ended, the swap space isn't freed. is it a good idea to explicitly free the entire swap space? [03:06] the strange thing is, if i run the same process again, more swap space is used, until 0MB swap space is left === Napsterbater is now known as Guest35284 === Napsterbater_ is now known as Napsterbater [03:15] Hi. I have a computer running Ubuntu Server 20.04. I restarted my machine shortly after a sudo apt update/upgrade, but now the computer doesn't boot properly, landing in the BusyBox shell with the message "No init found. Try passint init= bootarg." How do I find out what went wrong/what to fix? [03:41] turns out it was related to the file system somehow. Running fsck revealed errors, correcting them led to the system booting correctly. [03:45] morning [04:32] change my bashrc and now can't get into wsl2 [04:32] here's what I get when I open it up [04:32] https://i.snipboard.io/6TNVbR.jpg [04:32] jaziz1: what did you put in it? [04:32] mefistofeles, copy/pasted somethin I found online :D [04:32] jaziz1: yeah, never do that [04:33] didn't think it'd be that consequential [04:33] I mean, unless you understand what it does [04:33] thought it was just to change colors and settings of that nature honestly [04:39] ok apparently there's a backup bashrc in /etc/skel [04:42] perrrfect [04:47] pavlos hello [04:49] can anyone suggest a way to manage bluetooth manager,it keeps freezing probobly due to powersaving settings but if it plays up on me id like to avoid a restart or logout-any suggestions guys [04:50] I mounted /dev/sda1 /mnt [04:50] 5.8.0-36-generic gnome desktop 20.04.1 [04:52] again I am trying to mount 'sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi [04:53] it says 'mount point does not exist' pls help [04:53] kontra2, what is in /mnt? [04:54] I trying to recover lost grub bootloader [04:55] kontra2, and /mnt/boot/efi doesn't exist. Does /mnt/boot exist? [04:55] I am a newbie, idk [04:56] so I have to remove /mnt/boot [04:56] ?? [04:57] I was suggested this by pavlos [04:59] kontra2, no, don't go deleting things just yet [05:00] rolf hold on champ pause fools rush and cry soon [05:03] you got this lordcirth [05:03] i dont even know whats going on fyi [05:07] is anyway to get back opera titlebar in openbox ? [05:10] what's the name for the line that describes what directory you're currently in? [05:11] jaziz1: prompt ? [05:11] lordcirth could you suggest correct steps to restore grub2 bootloader [05:11] Bashing-om, hm that sounds right === goodTimesImmort1 is now known as goodTimesImmort === keiser9 is now known as keiser [06:55] anyone else noticied that vdpauinfo segment faults in both ubuntu 20.04 LTS and 20.10 creating coredump in /tmp? [07:11] is there way to build a source package with debug information [07:17] Thread 1 "vdpauinfo" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [07:17] 0x00007ffff6b72d78 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so [07:20] black_13: we dont reccomend compiling software your own here, instead use the packages from the official repos [07:28] black_13: the question lotuspsychje would need to add is, why would you want to build something if something isn't working the way you want mostlikely you just need to install a extra package. [07:29] thats a question the user itself should ask [08:03] black_13: many packages are available with debug symbols [08:22] how do you install all the local packages built from a source install [10:15] my husband is still / again having problems with his ubuntu 20.04. we tried booting it with nomodeset, but after that it puts out colored vertical lines a couple of times and then ends with a - in the top left corner, that blinks. [10:16] Anyon on here familar with the systemd-cron package? It's exhibiting some very strange behavior. [10:16] hi OverEagerStudent [10:17] Hello [10:18] this seems to be a slower time of day/night [10:19] OverEagerStudent you might try describing some of the behavior? [10:21] Sorry. Not thinking. In my /etc/crontab file there are two lines to call wget so that it automatically updates the list of valid 2 and three word TLDs (i.e. .co.uk). If the program is called as wget it's fine. But if I make it /usr/bin/wget then I keep getting errors like this in my syslog: [10:21] global exception: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/run/systemd/generator/cron-crontab-/usr/bin/wget-0.sh' [10:23] i don't know much about your problem OverEagerStudent (sorry) but maybe you have run into mine? [10:24] my husband is still / again having problems with his ubuntu 20.04. we tried booting it with nomodeset, but after that it puts out colored vertical lines a couple of times and then ends with a - in the top left corner, that blinks. [10:25] Never heard of that one. I'm not very familiar with Ubuntu to be honest. I usually use Gentoo, but this is a hosting provider and they didn't have Gentoo as an option, so I decided I'd try this ubuntu that everyone is talking about. [10:25] :) [10:25] Ubuntu is generally good [10:25] and easier than debian [10:26] but it all depends on what you're used to [10:26] It would take some doing to be harder than debian. [10:27] Let me see, just brainstorming, have you tried clearing all paramaters except those absolutely required form the kernel load line and adding vga=scan or vga=ask? [10:27] You might also want to try adding nofb to disable framebuffers. That's known to occasionally screw things jup. What GPU anyway? === hacxman is now known as hexo === vlm_ is now known as vlm [10:37] OverEagerStudent, its nvidia [10:37] chalcedony: Are you using the nvidia drivers or anything? Sounds like it could be a driver issue. [10:38] we uploaded the proprietary drivers last night, after it was freezing every 15-30 mins.. [10:38] and then it was still freezing and quit booting [12:03] hi. I wanted to give ubuntu another try after 6 years and what I got is system booting, working a bit and then screen starts to flicker and you can't do anything. I could only go to other text tty. I tried both wayland and x. also, some programs don't start. The machine is DELL inspiron 15 3542 with integrated intel graphics. [12:05] which release? [12:10] 20.04 [12:11] I had the same issue on 20.04 with intel graphics. I had to use a newer kernel version. It only happened with kernel 5.4 for some reason. [12:12] !mainline | cvele [12:12] cvele: The kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds [12:14] i'm on 5.8 [12:17] testing different kernel versions can still help you to rule out whether it is a kernel/driver issue [12:18] I'll try some other kernel [12:19] cvele, i guess you can try linux-generic-hwe-20.04-edge also [12:25] cvele: was it flicker once you reach desktop. [12:26] yes, it flickers and desktop does not response to anything [12:27] cvele: i had an older bug like that, lemme find you the ID holdon [12:28] cvele: read first if its the same issue, if it is try #28 from bug #1838644 tomreyn used to find me a workaround [12:28] bug 1838644 in linux-hwe (Ubuntu) "Booting into desktop results in flickering" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838644 [13:06] hi, is Firefox for Ubuntu compiled with JACK support? [13:10] if not, is there a build available or should I build it on my own? [13:13] https://jackaudio.org/applications/ : "Mozilla Firefox provides JACK support when compiled with custom build flags:" https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783733#c81 [13:13] Mozilla bug 783733 in Audio/Video: cubeb "JACK audio output support [initial version] [cubeb]" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [13:14] about:buildconfig shows the build options used to build firefox [13:21] guess it's time to build Firefox then [13:25] kontra2: please do not send pm unless agreed [13:33] chalcedony: if you have inxi installed, can you paste inxi -G [13:47] Howdy all [13:48] E: Unable to locate package xserver-xorg-hwe-20.04 [13:48] E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'xserver-xorg-hwe-20.04' [13:48] E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'xserver-xorg-hwe-20.04' [13:49] any ideas? [13:49] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [13:49] guide taken from here [13:50] When will we see Thunderbird 78.x.x in the Software Updater? Version 78.6.1 will be released this week. [13:50] Ntemis: please use a pastebin, and ask a question, if you have one. [13:50] i have one yes [13:50] can you help me install that? [13:50] is not in yet enabled or what? [13:51] which ubuntu release are you running? [13:51] 20.04 [13:52] there's no HWE xserver-xorg for 20.04 at this time. [13:52] why is posted on webpage then? [13:52] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack [13:52] tells us its should be there [13:53] copy + paste mistake, i would think [13:53] ah ok [13:53] thanks gtk [13:54] Hello everyone, I have an hp pavilion notebook. I am having issues with the live Ubuntu 20.04.1 it won't let me type using my keyboard. also it gives the error [13:55] PCI ebus error severity corrected [13:56] can someone please help me? [13:57] !patience | StarOnD [13:57] StarOnD: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ [13:58] Ntemis: thjanks for pointing out the error, i've updated the wiki page. [13:58] okay @ lotuspsychje 🙂 [13:58] you are welcome [13:59] StarOnD: can you show the error message in context, or the full kernel log, on a pastebin? [14:00] tomreyn I am using irc on my phone. my computer is near useless [14:00] StarOnD: try attaching an external keyboard, if you have one? [14:01] StarOnD: also consider a bios upgrade [14:03] WaltS48: the latest i've read about it (in #ubuntu-hardened): FYI I am told this is the current blocker for the thunderbird update: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1901829 [14:03] Launchpad bug 1901829 in thunderbird (Ubuntu Groovy) "thunderbird fails to open, xml parse error" [High,Confirmed] [14:04] anyone else experienced that vdpauinfo crashes with segment fault in ubuntu 20.04 LTS and 20.10? [14:05] tomreyn: Thanks for that. === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [14:07] Apachez: poll-like questions usually don't get much response on this channel, which is for ubuntu support. [14:08] tomreyn: ok then, I thought this was a help channel. How to fix this then? Thread 1 "vdpauinfo" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x00007ffff6b72d78 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so [14:09] using ubuntu 20.10 with kernel 5.8.0-37-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 7 18:47:28 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [14:09] is this a full yupdated 20.04 or 20.10 system? [14:10] did you look for similar error reports, yet? bug 1908882 looks like it can be related [14:10] bug 1908882 in vdpauinfo (Ubuntu) "vdpauinfo always crashes on my system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1908882 [14:10] I tried google without any luck which is why I ask in here with hope that someone perhaps already knows "ahh this is known, will be fixed on monday" or something [14:12] this package is in universe, seems ot be synced from debian, so check their BTS as well [14:12] this also means community support level [14:15] didnt know that #ubuntu on freenode was a payed service :P [14:15] debian's BTS on vdpauinfo is empty, though https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=vdpauinfo [14:16] i'm trying to explain that packages in universe don't get the highest priority in bug fixing [14:18] Apachez: whats the command you are using to make it segfault please [14:19] StarOnD: there's also an on-screen keyboard on gnome if you like [14:19] tomreyn my external keyboard also behaves similarly [14:19] thank you lotuspsychje [14:19] good suggestion there! [14:35] Hello the on screen keyboard is also not typing [14:35] StarOnD: i find that hard to believe [14:36] lol would I lie ? [14:36] StarOnD: can you move your mouse to the onscreen keyboard and click the keys? [14:36] Yes I can also I have a touch screen [14:37] StarOnD: ok, so you can now provide the info tomreyn requested [14:37] the keyboard is not responding [14:38] StarOnD: you just said you can type on the onscreen keyboard with mouse? [14:38] when I click it does nothing [14:38] thats hard to believe [14:38] I can click but there is no response [14:39] well I wish I could prove it [14:40] StarOnD: are you in a setup or a live? [14:40] a normal hp laptop [14:40] StarOnD: i mean the ubuntu 20.04 setup, or did you boot into the live desktop or did you full install? [14:40] hp pavilion [14:41] live usb [14:41] I booted into the live usb [14:44] StarOnD: did you try opening a terminal and mouseclick the onscreen keyboard? [14:44] I tried typing in the search bar of fire fox and a terminal [14:45] StarOnD: and where did you see that PCI error you told us before? [14:45] tty4 [14:45] Ctrl alt F4 [14:45] StarOnD: how did you enter tty? [14:45] without a keyboard working [14:46] the keyboard works in tty4 [14:47] not in the gui [14:47] StarOnD: so provide the logs from a tty requested before [14:47] how do I paste then [14:47] them [14:48] StarOnD: termbin or pastebinit [14:48] okay I am hearing that for the first time [14:49] hold for 10 minutes [14:50] Is there a way to install 20.10 with openbox? [14:59] rongx1an: latest openbox is 3.6.1-9, here's a deb ... http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/openbox/openbox_3.6.1-9_amd64.deb [15:01] pavlos, thanks for reply. I mean how to install base system first, and then X , and then openbox. [15:03] rongx1an: you install 20.10, then update/upgrade it, then bring openbox, then on next login you don't select gdm but openbox. There are some guides online. [15:04] rongx1an: here's a guide ... https://www.lifewire.com/install-openbox-using-ubuntu-4051832 [15:14] uh [15:15] anyone there? [15:15] sure [15:15] i kinda need help with something [15:16] uh [15:16] i was tryna launch a program with wine [15:16] and a window popped up saying [15:17] failed to load the launcher dll: module cannot be found [15:18] what do i do? [15:21] Hiall [15:25] termbin.com/fb5a [15:26] there you go [15:26] apologies for the delay [15:33] can someone please take a look at the termbin? [15:34] lotuspsychje: just vdpauinfo [15:34] it segfaults both as regular user and when runned through sudo [15:34] LUMA_KEY_MIN_LUMA - [15:34] LUMA_KEY_MAX_LUMA - [15:34] Segmentation fault [15:35] and then I get the prompt back and a dump in /tmp/dumps [15:35] while vainfo (both with and without sudo) works without issues [15:35] ii vdpauinfo 1.4-1 amd64 Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix (vdpauinfo utility) [15:36] StarOnD, i suggest a 'lspci -nnk' to identify what device that '00:1c.4'ì is [15:36] StarOnD: you could add pci=nommconf next to the quiet splash in /etc/default/grub, sudo update-grub and reboot [15:36] ioria ok I will do that [15:36] dmesg outputs [48703.212428] vdpauinfo[20515]: segfault at 5619ce08ea5a ip 00007ff81a846d78 sp 00007fff51dc8540 error 4 in i965_dri.so[7ff81a3e0000+829000] and then a 2nd line with "Code: " [15:37] termbin.com/qf90 [15:38] ioria any hints? Pavlos ? [15:39] StarOnD, Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express [15:40] ok ioria what do I do about it [15:41] StarOnD, i'd try with a kernel parameter : 'pci=noaer' [15:41] StarOnD, what's your kernel ? [15:42] I have Ubuntu 20.04.1 [15:42] StarOnD, uname -r [15:43] 5.4.0-42-generic [15:44] should I combine Pavlos and ioria's suggestions [15:44] StarOnD, i guess you need to update your system [15:45] steps please. is there a hardware issue? [15:45] StarOnD: either, try with pci=noaer first, then with pci=nommconf [15:45] StarOnD, current kernel for focal 20.04 is 4.0.60 or 5.8.0-36- [15:46] StarOnD, i mean: 5.4.0.60 or 5.8.0-36 [15:47] StarOnD, you know how to update the system ? [15:53] hi again sorry i got disconnected [15:54] Pavlos what should I do? I am confused [15:54] StarOnD: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade ... it should bring the latest kernel [15:55] that's all? [15:55] no /etc/default/grub [15:56] StarOnD: Why? [15:56] StarOnD: then you can modify /etc/default/grub, next to quiet splash add pci=noaer, sudo update-grub, reboot [16:06] Hi i want to know do kububuntu and ubuntu have same release model ? [16:07] sanbot: yes, they follow same major release cycle [16:07] sanbot: kubuntu is just ubuntu with a different Desktop environment [16:07] Thank you all 🙏 [16:10] sanbot: you can join #kubuntu if you like [16:33] Hello. I am trying to setup a samba share ontop of my newly created raid 1 (mdadm raid) in my home network. I am having my usual trouble with access rights in linux. I want to be able to set read or read+write access on a per-user basis for the share/dir. After some searching it seems that ACLs could do the trick but I cant seem to get it to work. I can no longer access the share at all after adding my user to the acl rules. Its [16:33] not a solution to simply change owner or something since I need to be able to set these permissions on several users, not just my user. [16:33] Output from ls -lh: drwxrwxr-x+ 3 root root 4.0K Jan 10 13:28 data [16:33] Results from getfacl command: https://pastebin.com/8K11Qpga [16:33] I have set the share as writeable=yes in the samba configuration. [16:33] hi [16:34] I have this errors on ubuntu 20.04 trying to use qt6: [16:34] If I put in crontab: date | ssh me@remote 'cat > file' then file contains the date, but if I put: date +%s | sshme@remote 'cat > file' then file is unmodified. Why? [16:34] libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found [16:34] libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast [16:34] QGLXContext: Failed to create dummy context [16:34] QRhiGles2: Failed to create temporary context [16:34] QRhiGles2: Failed to create context [16:35] Failed to create RHI (backend 2) [16:36] I use nvidia driver 340 [16:36] Hi guys, is there a way to disable the right click and middle click button on a trackpad in ubuntu? [16:36] Quick question, for some reason, everytime I restart my computer, I have to run sudo alsa force-reload. Does anybody know why or what I could do to make it come up working without having to do that? [16:37] I hate linux, even this sites "freenode" registration process is time wasting [16:38] hah [16:38] SomeDamnBody: that [16:38] And this plss [16:38] Why is it hard to access root direcotry via file browser, why is it in "other locations" and not in quick access? [16:38] Why is there no create new file when i right click desktop or right click in any folder? I want to create script file fast... [16:38] Why is Rhythmbox player look like it's made in 90s with simple lists and no modern design at all? Isn't it 2020? [16:38] Why does System Monitor app look so simple with "processes" tab so non organized just plain simple list of running processes? [16:38] Why is there no option to change cursor icon, scrolling speed and mouse accleration in settings? [16:38] SomeDamnBody: that's weird, aren't you using PulseAudio? [16:39] banekondic996: do not flood the channel, if you want to paste a large amount of text use something like bpaste.net [16:39] banekondic996: Use a real window manager like fluxbox and change the right click menu yourself. If you don't like it, simply change it [16:39] banekondic996, Rythmbox was made some time ago and uses GTK GUI elements that look like that. [16:40] Yea, but design should be improved. Also i believe those are things that are crucial. [16:40] banekondic996, then go for macos [16:41] Modern design? Eye candy means nothing. Efficient usability means everything [16:41] banekondic996, a lot of people don't think it is crucial... a lot of people here use the terminal 99% of the time [16:41] and I don't think it is crucial either tbh [16:41] As i hate linux, someone recommended to me to help to improve it, so here i'm. Oh i tryed mac os, it has blurry font i dont like anti aliasing on it. Well i guess some people just like to waste time typeing in terminal, can't help it [16:41] On the back side of my Desktop 4 USB ports are Blue while others are not so I know the Blue ones are USB3. But the 2 ports on the front panel which are connected via a header cable ....How can I know if they are USB2 or USB3 ? [16:42] With linux, at least you can use whatever you want. And if the 20 million players don't work for you, you can write your own [16:42] banekondic996, "waste time typing in terminal" oh my poor child [16:42] banekondic996: Waste time typing on a terminal? [16:42] Gartt give me example what can i do more then in Windows? === pauljw_pop is now known as pauljw [16:42] I suggest not feeding the obvious troll [16:43] let him get back to his point and grunt ui [16:43] Oh common i can't install simple php 7.9 on CentOS 6 for 1 hour because of dependecies [16:43] banekondic996: Not have to install constantly-running anti-virus, not have to defragment, not have updates performed behind your back when you explicitly tell your system not to, which occurs at the worst time? [16:43] banekondic996: Also, the bash shell is far superior to the windows crap [16:43] mefistofeles: Yeah, probably right [16:44] Hi guys, is there a way to disable the right click and middle click button on a trackpad in ubuntu? [16:44] banekondic996: Go and buy Windows or Apple and enjoy then. As they say, a fool and his money are soon parted [16:44] garatt Ubuntu now has updates also, and there is only remind me later button. Also Mac OS started doing same as windows. I never use anti virus on my windows, only when i suspect something i run malwarebytes na kaspersky but portable edition. [16:45] Only reason i would switch to Ubuntu is because Windows 10 became slower because of spyware [16:45] banekondic996: No, you can control when and how updates are applied, not just remind me later. That's in Windows and Apple. You can adjust in linux [16:45] I deleted all windows update dll and i don't have windows updates [16:45] I ran windows 10 1607 for 4 years [16:45] Hahah [16:45] 3.5 [16:46] "I deleted all windows update dll and i don't have windows updates" good luck with that [16:46] Thats very good from a security point of view I guess [16:46] But as i bought gtx 1660 i couldnt install drivers on 1607 [16:46] banekondic996: Well, there's nothing wrong with windows updates, but not being able to control when they apply (such as when you're in a hurry or about to enter a meeting) is BS [16:46] Well it worked for me [16:47] banekondic996: I drink the blood of squirrels and I haven't gotten cancer yet, so I guess that worked for me too [16:47] hahahha [16:47] All I am hearing is "I ran a unptached/vunerable Windows for 4 years..." [16:47] It doesn't mean it's effective [16:47] I much prefer to run windows on my daily driver but I can recognize that linux seems unnecessarily complex to me because I have only used it when needed instead of all day every day like windows :) Handling file and folder access rights always gets me in the end whatever I try do :D [16:48] Napsterbater Security is just a imagination, anything can be broken. All information goes to Microsoft, Google, Facebook anyway, even if you use linux theres backdoor in chipsets [16:48] hahahah omfg [16:48] All i want is working OS with no updates [16:48] thebiffman_: I think the opposite. My 97 year old grandpa couldn't understand windows, but I threw debian on it and configured it just right and he had no issues - and I never had to worry about him accidentally clicking links to malware [16:48] give me your bank password then [16:49] banekondic996: You can greatly close security gaps with your actions [16:49] Wasn't SeLinux made by NSA? Google it [16:49] banekondic996: Doing that is the #1 way to sabotage the security of your system. The ostrich approach with your head in the sand [16:49] gartt: My problem right now is that I cannot set corect access rights on a folder. It was easier setting up a software raid than getting samba up and running with correct access rights. That, at least in my eyes, is so much simpler in windows. Simply add user and select "full access" and that user has full access. Nothing else. [16:49] banekondic996: Yes it was - so? It's also open source, so any deviousness is an open book [16:50] what a noob [16:50] thebiffman_: I don't use the desktop environment, so I wouldn't know. In bash, everything works fine [16:50] I have no desktop environment either [16:50] But I am having trouble getting it to work either way. [16:50] me too [16:50] thebiffman_, what do you use for browsing the web? [16:51] thebiffman_: you could add your users to a secondary group (office) and tell the samba share valid users = @office, also change the location to have group office and perms 770 [16:51] Maybe just have good router with good firewall, can that help ? [16:51] I know that ubuntu will be a better choice for my home server than windows server, hence why I chose it. On my desktop I use Win10. [16:51] banekondic996: Everything helps. And ufw makes rules very easy in ubuntu [16:52] pavlos: Then how do I set read only for 1 user, but read and write for the next? [16:52] thebiffman_: Even as a windows user at work and until my 20s, I find most linux distros far easier and less complicated to use [16:52] thebiffman_, I believe you need to add these users to different groups and then assign the permissions on a group basis [16:53] Installing debian, slackware, ubuntu, etc just works. No BS [16:53] thebiffman_: if you want one user to R, then the share would be readable by all [16:53] Well, no matter how easy it seems to you, I have sat here for a couple of hours and still cannot copy a file from a windows computer to my samba share... But the RAID 1 with mdadm took 30 mins to setup completely. [16:54] pavlos: Hmm yes maybe that is solution. Others = Read. Certain group: r+w. [16:54] hmm [16:54] You know what bothered me the most in CentOS and Ubuntu and some others is terminal windows resizeing, i just couldn't hit the spot to change arrow to resize the window -_-, till this newer versions. [16:54] gartt I find it more difficult to use Linux and i see it as time waste [16:54] banekondic996, do you have a real support question? your opinion is valuable, but more suitable for #ubuntu-discuss [16:55] Ohh ok. So can i like improve desing of rythmbox player ? [16:55] design* [16:55] sure there are themes to fancy up rhytmbox [16:55] banekondic996: What player did you use when using windows? Just curious. [16:55] Why doesn't it look good as default? [16:55] Groove, and it fine [16:55] ...or different music players [16:55] it does look good [16:55] And forgot name before it [16:56] I do use VLC even if it look bad, i use it for videos [16:56] one does not have to look to rythmbox, just listen [16:57] lolz [16:57] Morning all! or afternoon depending on where you are [16:58] hi ExcessiveAggro [16:58] Mac OS is really good looking and BSD based and i like it, but i can't fix font rendering on it. Also i now havee gtx 1660 and it's not supported by macos. And i hate dock it's wasting space. [16:58]