[00:51] <jjakob> on 16.06I set iface eth0 inet6 dhcp autoconf 0
[00:52] <jjakob> oh wait, never mind :)
[01:04] <lbarksdale> tomreyn, apologies for dropping off last night. Connection was down and I had to head to bed. Here's a photo of the debug messages at the point of freeze: https://imgur.com/a/XkdGgK0
[01:07] <lbarksdale> I also tried booting a live Fedora USB (latest version), and it froze seemingly similarly. I wonder if there was some update to the kernel between Ubuntu 16.04 and 18.04 (that's also in more recent Fedora) that's causing the freeze
[01:33] <gebbione> what am i missing in this purging https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5z3MD9Fw4R/
[01:49] <Bashing-om> gebbione: I see the ppa-purge command as ' sudo ppa-purge ppa:ansible/ansible '.
[01:50] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | gebbione
[01:51] <gebbione> i tried that too with another package
[01:51] <gebbione> when i grep for the ppa it is still there
[01:52] <gebbione> for instance for /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dupeguru-ubuntu-ppa-bionic.list:deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/dupeguru/ppa/ubuntu bionic main
[01:52] <gebbione> i have run -> sudo ppa-purge -o ppa:dupeguru/ppa ... but dupeguru is still installed
[01:53] <gebbione> i ll try without the -o
[01:55] <gebbione> doesnt work ... i guess it does not like those warnings i see and exists
[01:55] <Bashing-om> gebbione: Was once on the wish list that when ppa-purge completed to also remove the source - I do not know that is now in effect.
[02:15] <gebbione> btw do you know what is the benefit of upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04, is there like a release page or an article/summary that suggests what would change?
[02:18] <Bashing-om> gebbione: Uh Huh - see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes .
[02:19] <Bashing-om> gebbione: I do note that 20.04 (xubuntu) runs faster for me than 18.04 did.
[02:29] <marchesini> Good afternoon
[02:31] <marchesini> Ubuntu is a shit i prefer windows
[02:32] <Bashing-om> marchesini: You are free to make that choice :P
[02:33] <Toadisattva> really though?
[02:33] <marchesini> Would better that Linux dont exists
[02:35] <marchesini> Will take much time to kick me?
[02:36] <marchesini> Lol
[02:36] <pasiz> in an open world, without fences and walls, who needs gates and windows
[02:37] <mefistofeles> Canonical does
[02:37] <mefistofeles> xD
[02:39] <marchesini> Im using fedora
[02:39] <marchesini> Good distro
[02:40] <marchesini> I use ubuntu for 5 years
[02:40] <marchesini> What hell ibm is making with centos!!!
[02:40] <pasiz> business maybe?
[02:41] <marchesini> Money money money
[02:41] <fgasper> Hello. Where is the man page for posix_spawnattr_init?
[02:42] <pasiz> fgasper: 3
[02:43] <fgasper> Sorry, I mean which package? I have the man page for posix_spawnp but not for posix_spawnattr_init.
[02:43] <fgasper> Thank you!
[02:43] <pasiz> section 3
[02:44] <fgasper> I mean, which dpkg/apt package?
[02:45] <marchesini> I never had ear about this, but i really think that google have the answer
[02:46] <fgasper> Google has a man page for it, but I don’t think it pertains to Ubuntu because the man page I find online for posix_spawnp doesn’t mention the GNU-specific extensions that Ubuntu’s man page for that function discusses.
[02:49] <marchesini> Which opensource project works is developed with react and java, that i can help on my free time
[02:50] <marchesini> I never cooperated with the community, i love to do this someday
[03:06] <goppo> hi
[03:06] <goppo> i've just run a rather memory intensive process which made use of some of the swap space. now that the process has ended, the swap space isn't freed. is it a good idea to explicitly free the entire swap space?
[03:06] <goppo> the strange thing is, if i run the same process again, more swap space is used, until 0MB swap space is left
[03:15] <Onceuponaban> Hi. I have a computer running Ubuntu Server 20.04. I restarted my machine shortly after a sudo apt update/upgrade, but now the computer doesn't boot properly, landing in the BusyBox shell with the message "No init found. Try passint init= bootarg." How do I find out what went wrong/what to fix?
[03:41] <Onceuponaban> turns out it was related to the file system somehow. Running fsck revealed errors, correcting them led to the system booting correctly.
[03:45] <Jari--> morning
[04:32] <jaziz1> change my bashrc and now can't get into wsl2
[04:32] <jaziz1> here's what I get when I open it up
[04:32] <jaziz1> https://i.snipboard.io/6TNVbR.jpg
[04:32] <mefistofeles> jaziz1: what did you put in it?
[04:32] <jaziz1> mefistofeles, copy/pasted somethin I found online :D
[04:32] <mefistofeles> jaziz1: yeah, never do that
[04:33] <jaziz1> didn't think it'd be that consequential
[04:33] <mefistofeles> I mean, unless you understand what it does
[04:33] <jaziz1> thought it was just to change colors and settings of that nature honestly
[04:39] <jaziz1> ok apparently there's a backup bashrc in /etc/skel
[04:42] <jaziz1> perrrfect
[04:47] <kontra2> pavlos hello
[04:49] <cuetip> can anyone suggest a way to manage bluetooth manager,it keeps freezing probobly due to powersaving settings but if it plays up on me id like to avoid a restart or logout-any suggestions guys
[04:50] <kontra2> I mounted /dev/sda1 /mnt
[04:50] <cuetip> 5.8.0-36-generic gnome desktop 20.04.1
[04:52] <kontra2> again I am trying to mount 'sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot/efi
[04:53] <kontra2> it says 'mount point does not exist' pls help
[04:53] <lordcirth> kontra2, what is in /mnt?
[04:54] <kontra2> I trying to recover lost grub bootloader
[04:55] <lordcirth> kontra2, and /mnt/boot/efi doesn't exist. Does /mnt/boot exist?
[04:55] <kontra2> I am a newbie, idk
[04:56] <kontra2> so I have to remove /mnt/boot
[04:56] <kontra2> ??
[04:57] <kontra2> I was suggested this by pavlos
[04:59] <lordcirth> kontra2, no, don't go deleting things just yet
[05:00] <cuetip> rolf hold on champ pause fools rush and cry soon
[05:03] <cuetip> you got this lordcirth
[05:03] <cuetip> i dont even know whats going on fyi
[05:07] <user217_> is anyway to get back opera titlebar in openbox ?
[05:10] <jaziz1> what's the name for the line that describes what directory you're currently in?
[05:11] <Bashing-om> jaziz1: prompt ?
[05:11] <kontra2> lordcirth could you suggest correct steps to restore grub2 bootloader
[05:11] <jaziz1> Bashing-om, hm that sounds right
[06:55] <Apachez> anyone else noticied that vdpauinfo segment faults in both ubuntu 20.04 LTS and 20.10 creating coredump in /tmp?
[07:11] <black_13> is there way to build a source package with debug information
[07:17] <Apachez> Thread 1 "vdpauinfo" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[07:17] <Apachez> 0x00007ffff6b72d78 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> black_13: we dont reccomend compiling software your own here, instead use the packages from the official repos
[07:28] <chalarm> black_13: the question lotuspsychje would need to add is, why would you want to build something if something isn't working the way you want mostlikely you just need to install a extra package.
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> thats a question the user itself should ask
[08:03] <ducasse> black_13: many packages are available with debug symbols
[08:22] <black_13> how do you install all the local packages built from a source install
[10:15] <chalcedony`> my husband is still / again having problems with his ubuntu 20.04. we tried booting it with nomodeset, but after that it puts out colored vertical lines a couple of times and then ends with a - in the top left corner, that blinks.
[10:16] <OverEagerStudent> Anyon on here familar with the systemd-cron package? It's exhibiting some very strange behavior.
[10:16] <chalcedony`> hi OverEagerStudent
[10:17] <OverEagerStudent> Hello
[10:18] <chalcedony`> this seems to be a slower time of day/night
[10:19] <chalcedony`> OverEagerStudent you might try describing some of the behavior?
[10:21] <OverEagerStudent> Sorry. Not thinking. In my /etc/crontab file there are two lines to call wget so that it automatically updates the list of valid 2 and three word TLDs (i.e. .co.uk). If the program is called as wget <options> it's fine. But if I make it /usr/bin/wget <options> then I keep getting errors like this in my syslog:
[10:21] <OverEagerStudent> global exception: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/run/systemd/generator/cron-crontab-/usr/bin/wget-0.sh'
[10:23] <chalcedony> i don't know much about your problem OverEagerStudent (sorry) but maybe you have run into mine?
[10:24] <chalcedony>  my husband is still / again having problems with his ubuntu 20.04. we tried booting it with nomodeset, but after that it puts out colored vertical lines a couple of times and then ends with a - in the top left corner, that blinks.
[10:25] <OverEagerStudent> Never heard of that one. I'm not very familiar with Ubuntu to be honest. I usually use Gentoo, but this is a hosting provider and they didn't have Gentoo as an option, so I decided I'd try this ubuntu that everyone is talking about.
[10:25] <chalcedony> :)
[10:25] <chalcedony> Ubuntu is generally good
[10:25] <chalcedony> and easier than debian
[10:26] <chalcedony> but it all depends on what you're used to
[10:26] <OverEagerStudent> It would take some doing to be harder than debian.
[10:27] <OverEagerStudent> Let me see, just brainstorming, have you tried clearing all paramaters except those absolutely required form the kernel load line and adding vga=scan or vga=ask?
[10:27] <OverEagerStudent> You might also want to try adding nofb to disable framebuffers. That's known to occasionally screw things jup. What GPU anyway?
[10:37] <chalcedony> OverEagerStudent, its nvidia
[10:37] <OverEagerStudent> chalcedony: Are you using the nvidia drivers or anything? Sounds like it could be a driver issue.
[10:38] <chalcedony> we uploaded the proprietary drivers last night, after it was freezing every 15-30 mins..
[10:38] <chalcedony> and then it was still freezing and quit booting
[12:03] <cvele> hi. I wanted to give ubuntu another try after 6 years and what I got is system booting, working a bit and then screen starts to flicker and you can't do anything. I could only go to other text tty. I tried both wayland and x. also, some programs don't start. The machine is DELL inspiron 15 3542 with integrated intel graphics.
[12:05] <ThinkT510> which release?
[12:10] <cvele> 20.04
[12:11] <ThinkT510> I had the same issue on 20.04 with intel graphics. I had to use a newer kernel version. It only happened with kernel 5.4 for some reason.
[12:12] <ThinkT510> !mainline | cvele
[12:14] <cvele> i'm on 5.8
[12:17] <ThinkT510> testing different kernel versions can still help you to rule out whether it is a kernel/driver issue
[12:18] <cvele> I'll try some other kernel
[12:19] <coconut> cvele, i guess you can try linux-generic-hwe-20.04-edge also
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> cvele: was it flicker once you reach desktop.
[12:26] <cvele> yes, it flickers and desktop does not response to anything
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> cvele: i had an older bug like that, lemme find you the ID holdon
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> cvele: read first if its the same issue, if it is try #28 from bug #1838644 tomreyn used to find me a workaround
[13:06] <Nixola> hi, is Firefox for Ubuntu compiled with JACK support?
[13:10] <Nixola> if not, is there a build available or should I build it on my own?
[13:13] <tomreyn> https://jackaudio.org/applications/ : "Mozilla Firefox provides JACK support when compiled with custom build flags:" https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783733#c81
[13:14] <tomreyn> about:buildconfig shows the build options used to build firefox
[13:21] <Nixola> guess it's time to build Firefox then
[13:25] <pavlos> kontra2: please do not send pm unless agreed
[13:33] <pavlos> chalcedony: if you have inxi installed, can you paste inxi -G
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:48] <Ntemis> E: Unable to locate package xserver-xorg-hwe-20.04
[13:48] <Ntemis> E: Couldn't find any package by glob 'xserver-xorg-hwe-20.04'
[13:48] <Ntemis> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'xserver-xorg-hwe-20.04'
[13:49] <Ntemis> any ideas?
[13:49] <Ntemis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[13:49] <Ntemis> guide taken from here
[13:50] <WaltS48> When will we see Thunderbird 78.x.x in the Software Updater? Version 78.6.1 will be released this week.
[13:50] <tomreyn> Ntemis: please use a pastebin, and ask a question, if you have one.
[13:50] <Ntemis> i have one yes
[13:50] <Ntemis> can you help me install that?
[13:50] <Ntemis> is not in yet enabled or what?
[13:51] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release are you running?
[13:51] <Ntemis> 20.04
[13:52] <tomreyn> there's no HWE xserver-xorg for 20.04 at this time.
[13:52] <Ntemis> why is posted on webpage then?
[13:52] <Ntemis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[13:52] <Ntemis> tells us its should be there
[13:53] <tomreyn> copy + paste mistake, i would think
[13:53] <Ntemis> ah ok
[13:53] <Ntemis> thanks gtk
[13:54] <StarOnD> Hello everyone, I have an hp pavilion notebook. I am having issues with the live Ubuntu 20.04.1 it won't let me type using my keyboard. also it gives the error
[13:55] <StarOnD> PCI ebus error severity corrected
[13:56] <StarOnD> can someone please help me?
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> !patience | StarOnD
[13:58] <tomreyn> Ntemis: thjanks for pointing out the error, i've updated the wiki page.
[13:58] <StarOnD> okay @ lotuspsychje 🙂
[13:58] <Ntemis> you are welcome
[13:59] <tomreyn> StarOnD: can you show the error message in context, or the full kernel log, on a pastebin?
[14:00] <StarOnD> tomreyn I am using irc on my phone. my computer is near useless
[14:00] <tomreyn> StarOnD: try attaching an external keyboard, if you have one?
[14:01] <tomreyn> StarOnD: also consider a bios upgrade
[14:03] <tomreyn> WaltS48: the latest i've read about it (in #ubuntu-hardened): <mdeslaur> FYI I am told this is the current blocker for the thunderbird update: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/1901829
[14:04] <Apachez> anyone else experienced that vdpauinfo crashes with segment fault in ubuntu 20.04 LTS and 20.10?
[14:05] <WaltS48> tomreyn: Thanks for that.
[14:07] <tomreyn> Apachez: poll-like questions usually don't get much response on this channel, which is for ubuntu support.
[14:08] <Apachez> tomreyn: ok then, I thought this was a help channel. How to fix this then?  Thread 1 "vdpauinfo" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x00007ffff6b72d78 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so
[14:09] <Apachez> using ubuntu 20.10 with kernel 5.8.0-37-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jan 7 18:47:28 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:09] <tomreyn> is this a full yupdated 20.04 or 20.10 system?
[14:10] <tomreyn> did you look for similar error reports, yet? bug 1908882 looks like it can be related
[14:10] <Apachez> I tried google without any luck which is why I ask in here with hope that someone perhaps already knows "ahh this is known, will be fixed on monday" or something
[14:12] <tomreyn> this package is in universe, seems ot be synced from debian, so check their BTS as well
[14:12] <tomreyn> this also means community support level
[14:15] <Apachez> didnt know that #ubuntu on freenode was a payed service :P
[14:15] <tomreyn> debian's BTS on vdpauinfo is empty, though https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=vdpauinfo
[14:16] <tomreyn> i'm trying to explain that packages in universe don't get the highest priority in bug fixing
[14:18] <lotuspsychje> Apachez: whats the command you are using to make it segfault please
[14:19] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: there's also an on-screen keyboard on gnome if you like
[14:19] <StarOnD> tomreyn my external keyboard also behaves similarly
[14:19] <StarOnD> thank you lotuspsychje
[14:19] <tomreyn> good suggestion there!
[14:35] <StarOnD> Hello the on screen keyboard is also not typing
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: i find that hard to believe
[14:36] <StarOnD> lol would I lie ?
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: can you move your mouse to the onscreen keyboard and click the keys?
[14:36] <StarOnD> Yes I can also I have a touch screen
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: ok, so you can now provide the info tomreyn requested
[14:37] <StarOnD> the keyboard is not responding
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: you just said you can type on the onscreen keyboard with mouse?
[14:38] <StarOnD> when I click it does nothing
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> thats hard to believe
[14:38] <StarOnD> I can click but there is no response
[14:39] <StarOnD> well I wish I could prove it
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: are you in a setup or a live?
[14:40] <StarOnD> a normal hp laptop
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: i mean the ubuntu 20.04 setup, or did you boot into the live desktop or did you full install?
[14:40] <StarOnD> hp pavilion
[14:41] <StarOnD> live usb
[14:41] <StarOnD> I booted into the live usb
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: did you try opening a terminal and mouseclick the onscreen keyboard?
[14:44] <StarOnD> I tried typing in the search bar of fire fox and a terminal
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: and where did you see that PCI error you told us before?
[14:45] <StarOnD> tty4
[14:45] <StarOnD> Ctrl alt F4
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: how did you enter tty?
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> without a keyboard working
[14:46] <StarOnD> the keyboard works in tty4
[14:47] <StarOnD> not in the gui
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: so provide the logs from a tty requested before
[14:47] <StarOnD> how do I paste then
[14:47] <StarOnD> them
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> StarOnD: termbin or pastebinit
[14:48] <StarOnD> okay I am hearing that for the first time
[14:49] <StarOnD> hold for 10 minutes
[14:50] <rongx1an> Is there a way to install 20.10 with openbox?
[14:59] <pavlos> rongx1an: latest openbox is 3.6.1-9, here's a deb ... http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/o/openbox/openbox_3.6.1-9_amd64.deb
[15:01] <rongx1an> pavlos, thanks for reply. I mean how to install base system first, and then X , and then openbox.
[15:03] <pavlos> rongx1an: you install 20.10, then update/upgrade it, then bring openbox, then on next login you don't select gdm but openbox. There are some guides online.
[15:04] <pavlos> rongx1an: here's a guide ... https://www.lifewire.com/install-openbox-using-ubuntu-4051832
[15:14] <david_fonskc> uh
[15:15] <david_fonskc> anyone there?
[15:15] <mefistofeles> sure
[15:15] <david_fonskc> i kinda need help with something
[15:16] <david_fonskc> uh
[15:16] <david_fonskc> i was tryna launch a program with wine
[15:16] <david_fonskc> and a window popped up saying
[15:17] <david_fonskc> failed to load the launcher dll: module cannot be found
[15:18] <david_fonskc> what do i do?
[15:21] <DiogoConstantino> Hiall
[15:25] <StarOnD> termbin.com/fb5a
[15:26] <StarOnD> there you go
[15:26] <StarOnD> apologies for the delay
[15:33] <StarOnD> can someone please take a look at the termbin?
[15:34] <Apachez> lotuspsychje: just     vdpauinfo
[15:34] <Apachez> it segfaults both as regular user and when runned through sudo
[15:34] <Apachez> LUMA_KEY_MIN_LUMA                -
[15:34] <Apachez> LUMA_KEY_MAX_LUMA                -
[15:34] <Apachez> Segmentation fault
[15:35] <Apachez> and then I get the prompt back and a dump in /tmp/dumps
[15:35] <Apachez> while vainfo (both with and without sudo) works without issues
[15:35] <Apachez> ii  vdpauinfo                                  1.4-1                                         amd64        Video Decode and Presentation API for Unix (vdpauinfo utility)
[15:36] <ioria> StarOnD, i suggest a 'lspci -nnk' to identify what device that '00:1c.4'ì is
[15:36] <pavlos> StarOnD: you could add pci=nommconf next to the quiet splash in /etc/default/grub, sudo update-grub and reboot
[15:36] <StarOnD> ioria ok I will do that
[15:36] <Apachez> dmesg outputs   [48703.212428] vdpauinfo[20515]: segfault at 5619ce08ea5a ip 00007ff81a846d78 sp 00007fff51dc8540 error 4 in i965_dri.so[7ff81a3e0000+829000]       and then a 2nd line with "Code: "
[15:37] <StarOnD> termbin.com/qf90
[15:38] <StarOnD> ioria any hints? Pavlos ?
[15:39] <ioria> StarOnD, Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express
[15:40] <StarOnD> ok ioria what do I do about it
[15:41] <ioria> StarOnD, i'd try  with a kernel parameter :  'pci=noaer'
[15:41] <ioria> StarOnD, what's your kernel ?
[15:42] <StarOnD> I have Ubuntu 20.04.1
[15:42] <ioria> StarOnD, uname -r
[15:43] <StarOnD> 5.4.0-42-generic
[15:44] <StarOnD> should I combine Pavlos and ioria's suggestions
[15:44] <ioria> StarOnD, i guess you need to update your system
[15:45] <StarOnD> steps please. is there a hardware issue?
[15:45] <pavlos> StarOnD: either, try with pci=noaer first, then with pci=nommconf
[15:45] <ioria> StarOnD, current kernel for focal 20.04 is 4.0.60 or  5.8.0-36-
[15:46] <ioria> StarOnD,  i mean:  5.4.0.60 or 5.8.0-36
[15:47] <ioria> StarOnD,  you know how to update the system  ?
[15:53] <StarOnD> hi again sorry i got disconnected
[15:54] <StarOnD> Pavlos what should I do? I am confused
[15:54] <pavlos> StarOnD: sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade ... it should bring the latest kernel
[15:55] <StarOnD> that's all?
[15:55] <StarOnD> no /etc/default/grub
[15:56] <jeremy31> StarOnD: Why?
[15:56] <pavlos> StarOnD: then you can modify /etc/default/grub, next to quiet splash add pci=noaer, sudo update-grub, reboot
[16:06] <sanbot> Hi i want to know do kububuntu and ubuntu have same release model ?
[16:07] <pasiz> sanbot: yes, they follow same major release cycle
[16:07] <jeremy31> sanbot: kubuntu is just ubuntu with a different Desktop environment
[16:07] <sanbot> Thank you all 🙏
[16:10] <Maik> sanbot: you can join #kubuntu if you like
[16:33] <thebiffman_> Hello. I am trying to setup a samba share ontop of my newly created raid 1 (mdadm raid) in my home network. I am having my usual trouble with access rights in linux. I want to be able to set read or read+write access on a per-user basis for the share/dir. After some searching it seems that ACLs could do the trick but I cant seem to get it to work. I can no longer access the share at all after adding my user to the acl rules. Its
[16:33] <thebiffman_> not a solution to simply change owner or something since I need to be able to set these permissions on several users, not just my user.
[16:33] <thebiffman_> Output from ls -lh: drwxrwxr-x+ 3 root root 4.0K Jan 10 13:28 data
[16:33] <thebiffman_> Results from getfacl command: https://pastebin.com/8K11Qpga
[16:33] <thebiffman_> I have set the share as writeable=yes in the samba configuration.
[16:33] <arctik> hi
[16:34] <arctik> I have this errors on ubuntu 20.04 trying to use qt6:
[16:34] <frib> If I put in crontab: date | ssh me@remote 'cat > file' then file contains the date, but if I put: date +%s | sshme@remote 'cat > file' then file is unmodified. Why?
[16:34] <arctik> libGL error: No matching fbConfigs or visuals found
[16:34] <arctik> libGL error: failed to load driver: swrast
[16:34] <arctik> QGLXContext: Failed to create dummy context
[16:34] <arctik> QRhiGles2: Failed to create temporary context
[16:34] <arctik> QRhiGles2: Failed to create context
[16:35] <arctik> Failed to create RHI (backend 2)
[16:36] <arctik> I use nvidia driver  340
[16:36] <gnUser> Hi guys, is there a way to disable the right click and middle click button on a trackpad in ubuntu?
[16:36] <SomeDamnBody> Quick question, for some reason, everytime I restart my computer, I have to run sudo alsa force-reload. Does anybody know why or what I could do to make it come up working without having to do that?
[16:37] <banekondic996> I hate linux, even this sites "freenode" registration process is time wasting
[16:38] <mefistofeles> hah
[16:38] <mefistofeles> SomeDamnBody: that
[16:38] <banekondic996> And this plss
[16:38] <banekondic996> Why is it hard to access root direcotry via file browser, why is it in "other locations" and not in quick access?
[16:38] <banekondic996> Why is there no create new file when i right click desktop or right click in any folder? I want to create script file fast...
[16:38] <banekondic996> Why is Rhythmbox player look like it's made in 90s with simple lists and no modern design at all? Isn't it 2020?
[16:38] <banekondic996> Why does System Monitor app look so simple with "processes" tab so non organized just plain simple list of running processes?
[16:38] <banekondic996> Why is there no option to change cursor icon, scrolling speed and mouse accleration in settings?
[16:38] <mefistofeles> SomeDamnBody: that's weird, aren't you using PulseAudio?
[16:39] <mefistofeles> banekondic996: do not flood the channel, if you want to paste a large amount of text use something like bpaste.net
[16:39] <gartt> banekondic996: Use a real window manager like fluxbox and change the right click menu yourself. If you don't like it, simply change it
[16:39] <gnUser> banekondic996, Rythmbox was made some time ago and uses GTK GUI elements that look like that.
[16:40] <banekondic996> Yea, but design should be improved. Also i believe those are things that are crucial.
[16:40] <coconut> banekondic996, then go for macos
[16:41] <gartt> Modern design? Eye candy means nothing. Efficient usability means everything
[16:41] <gnUser> banekondic996, a lot of people don't think it is crucial... a lot of people here use the terminal 99% of the time
[16:41] <gnUser> and I don't think it is crucial either tbh
[16:41] <banekondic996> As i hate linux, someone recommended to me to help to improve it, so here i'm. Oh i tryed mac os, it has blurry font i dont like anti aliasing on it. Well i guess some people just like to waste time typeing in terminal, can't help it
[16:41] <john_rambo> On the back side of my Desktop 4 USB ports are Blue while others are not so I know the Blue ones are USB3. But the 2 ports on the front panel which are connected via a header cable ....How can I know if they are USB2 or USB3 ?
[16:42] <gartt> With linux, at least you can use whatever you want. And if the 20 million players don't work for you, you can write your own
[16:42] <gnUser> banekondic996, "waste time typing in terminal" oh my poor child
[16:42] <gartt> banekondic996: Waste time typing on a terminal?
[16:42] <banekondic996> Gartt give me example what can i do more then in Windows?
[16:42] <mefistofeles> I suggest not feeding the obvious troll
[16:43] <gnUser> let him get back to his point and grunt ui
[16:43] <banekondic996> Oh common i can't install simple php 7.9 on CentOS 6 for 1 hour because of dependecies
[16:43] <gartt> banekondic996: Not have to install constantly-running anti-virus, not have to defragment, not have updates performed behind your back when you explicitly tell your system not to, which occurs at the worst time?
[16:43] <gartt> banekondic996: Also, the bash shell is far superior to the windows crap
[16:43] <gartt> mefistofeles: Yeah, probably right
[16:44] <gnUser> Hi guys, is there a way to disable the right click and middle click button on a trackpad in ubuntu?
[16:44] <gartt> banekondic996: Go and buy Windows or Apple and enjoy then. As they say, a fool and his money are soon parted
[16:44] <banekondic996> garatt Ubuntu now has updates also, and there is only remind me later button. Also Mac OS started doing same as windows. I never use anti virus on my windows, only when i suspect something i run malwarebytes na kaspersky but portable edition.
[16:45] <banekondic996> Only reason i would switch to Ubuntu is because Windows 10 became slower because of spyware
[16:45] <gartt> banekondic996: No, you can control when and how updates are applied, not just remind me later. That's in Windows and Apple. You can adjust in linux
[16:45] <banekondic996> I deleted all windows update dll and i don't have windows updates
[16:45] <banekondic996> I ran windows 10 1607 for 4 years
[16:45] <thebiffman_> Hahah
[16:45] <banekondic996> 3.5
[16:46] <gnUser> "I deleted all windows update dll and i don't have windows updates" good luck with that
[16:46] <thebiffman_> Thats very good from a security point of view I guess
[16:46] <banekondic996> But as i bought gtx 1660 i couldnt install drivers on 1607
[16:46] <gartt> banekondic996: Well, there's nothing wrong with windows updates, but not being able to control when they apply (such as when you're in a hurry or about to enter a meeting) is BS
[16:46] <banekondic996> Well it worked for me
[16:47] <gartt> banekondic996: I drink the blood of squirrels and I haven't gotten cancer yet, so I guess that worked for me too
[16:47] <gnUser> hahahha
[16:47] <Napsterbater> All I am hearing is "I ran a unptached/vunerable Windows for 4 years..."
[16:47] <gartt> It doesn't mean it's effective
[16:47] <thebiffman_> I much prefer to run windows on my daily driver but I can recognize that linux seems unnecessarily complex to me because I have only used it when needed instead of all day every day like windows :) Handling file and folder access rights always gets me in the end whatever I try do :D
[16:48] <banekondic996> Napsterbater Security is just a imagination, anything can be broken. All information goes to Microsoft, Google, Facebook anyway, even if you use linux theres backdoor in chipsets
[16:48] <gnUser> hahahah omfg
[16:48] <banekondic996> All i want is working OS with no updates
[16:48] <gartt> thebiffman_: I think the opposite. My 97 year old grandpa couldn't understand windows, but I threw debian on it and configured it just right and he had no issues - and I never had to worry about him accidentally clicking links to malware
[16:48] <gnUser> give me your bank password then
[16:49] <gartt> banekondic996: You can greatly close security gaps with your actions
[16:49] <banekondic996> Wasn't SeLinux made by NSA? Google it
[16:49] <gartt> banekondic996: Doing that is the #1 way to sabotage the security of your system. The ostrich approach with your head in the sand
[16:49] <thebiffman_> gartt: My problem right now is that I cannot set corect access rights on a folder. It was easier setting up a software raid than getting samba up and running with correct access rights. That, at least in my eyes, is so much simpler in windows. Simply add user and select "full access" and that user has full access. Nothing else.
[16:49] <gartt> banekondic996: Yes it was - so? It's also open source, so any deviousness is an open book
[16:50] <gnUser> what a noob
[16:50] <gartt> thebiffman_: I don't use the desktop environment, so I wouldn't know. In bash, everything works fine
[16:50] <thebiffman_> I have no desktop environment either
[16:50] <thebiffman_> But I am having trouble getting it to work either way.
[16:50] <Tails> me too
[16:50] <gnUser> thebiffman_, what do you use for browsing the web?
[16:51] <pavlos> thebiffman_: you could add your users to a secondary group (office) and tell the samba share valid users = @office, also change the location to have group office and perms 770
[16:51] <banekondic996> Maybe just have good router with good firewall, can that help ?
[16:51] <thebiffman_> I know that ubuntu will be a better choice for my home server than windows server, hence why I chose it. On my desktop I use Win10.
[16:51] <gartt> banekondic996: Everything helps. And ufw makes rules very easy in ubuntu
[16:52] <thebiffman_> pavlos: Then how do I set read only for 1 user, but read and write for the next?
[16:52] <gartt> thebiffman_: Even as a windows user at work and until my 20s, I find most linux distros far easier and less complicated to use
[16:52] <gnUser> thebiffman_, I believe you need to add these users to different groups and then assign the permissions on a group basis
[16:53] <gartt> Installing debian, slackware, ubuntu, etc just works. No BS
[16:53] <pavlos> thebiffman_: if you want one user to R, then the share would be readable by all
[16:53] <thebiffman_> Well, no matter how easy it seems to you, I have sat here for a couple of hours and still cannot copy a file from a windows computer to my samba share... But the RAID 1 with mdadm took 30 mins to setup completely.
[16:54] <thebiffman_> pavlos: Hmm yes maybe that is solution. Others = Read. Certain group: r+w.
[16:54] <thebiffman_> hmm
[16:54] <banekondic996> You know what bothered me the most in CentOS and Ubuntu and some others is terminal windows resizeing, i just couldn't hit the spot to change arrow to resize the window -_-, till this newer versions.
[16:54] <banekondic996> gartt I find it more difficult to use Linux and i see it as time waste
[16:54] <oerheks> banekondic996, do you have a real support question? your opinion is valuable, but more suitable for #ubuntu-discuss
[16:55] <banekondic996> Ohh ok. So can i like improve desing of rythmbox player ?
[16:55] <banekondic996> design*
[16:55] <oerheks> sure there are themes to fancy up rhytmbox
[16:55] <thebiffman_> banekondic996: What player did you use when using windows? Just curious.
[16:55] <banekondic996> Why doesn't it look good as default?
[16:55] <banekondic996> Groove, and it fine
[16:55] <coconut> ...or different music players
[16:55] <oerheks> it does look good
[16:55] <banekondic996> And forgot name before it
[16:56] <banekondic996> I do use VLC even if it look bad, i use it for videos
[16:56] <oerheks> one does not have to look to rythmbox, just listen
[16:57] <oerheks> lolz
[16:57] <ExcessiveAggro> Morning all! or afternoon depending on where you are
[16:58] <oerheks> hi ExcessiveAggro
[16:58] <banekondic996> Mac OS is really good looking and BSD based and i like it, but i can't fix font rendering on it. Also i now havee gtx 1660 and it's not supported by macos. And i hate dock it's wasting space.
[16:58] <ExcessiveAggro> I have a snap package that needs to run a command that resides in the underlying ubuntu OS.  Is there a way to make that happen?  Specifically I am running NextCloud and it needs to run GEOIPLookup that is installed in the parent OS
[16:58] <thebiffman_> Do you guys know how filesystem ACLs work? Can they override normal user,group,others rights? It seems to me that if you use ACL you have two levels of settings all of sudden... But it does give you per-user settings which is what I really want.
[16:59] <banekondic996> Ok, guys but when installing apps, why do sites give you what to writte in terminal and what repositories to add, Why just not have pacakage or script for download ?
[17:00] <thebiffman_> banekondic996: So that its easy to update later I would guess. Otherwise you would have to manually update each app
[17:01] <oerheks> ExcessiveAggro, i think in softwarecenter > installed > nextcloud > permissions you find these options to go outside the homefolder
[17:02] <banekondic996> thebiffman_ How so? Site can change script, upload new package. Also you still update it manually
[17:02] <oerheks> banekondic996, what site?
[17:03] <ExcessiveAggro> oerheks, My snaps don't seem to show up in the installed section of the software center
[17:03] <oerheks> we recoomend our softwarecenter
[17:03] <thebiffman_> banekondic996: But when you would have to go to the site and run the new scripts manually. Instead of just running apt update and get them.
[17:04] <banekondic996> oerheks any site with app installation guide using commands. thebiffman_ Ok, well then just downloadable .sh script that does it for you
[17:05] <leftyfb> banekondic996: feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic. This is a support channel
[17:05] <oerheks> 'any site' is not supported, why would we?
[17:07] <banekondic996> @oerheks Ok @leftygb This is about Ubuntu, what is this channel topic?
[17:07] <oerheks> ExcessiveAggro, i do see them https://imgur.com/gallery/t6rO2dF
[17:08] <ExcessiveAggro> oerheks - Sorry I'm dumb this morning... i was opening the software center on my PC and not on my server lol
[17:10] <banekondic996> Guy's i asked these questions and your not answering https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7GGVM62zxw/
[17:10] <banekondic996> Can i improve rythmbox design by contributing or not, i don't want people to have shitty looking player for music.
[17:11] <ExcessiveAggro> banekondic996 - I can answer some of these but need a few minutes.  I'm looking up some other answers for some other questions above
[17:11] <jayjo> Is there a way to determine if a system can boot from UEFI if the installer chose to use BIOS?
[17:12] <jayjo> I am comparing a small NUC installation to a desktop. One has a boot partition mounted at /boot/efi and the other at /boot (the one using BIOS). I believe they can both boot from UEFI, and because I'd like to keep disk layouts as similar as possible I'm trying to find out where they diverged
[17:12] <ExcessiveAggro> thebiffman - I did some googling and everythin I find about your ACL question says that ACLs and standard *nix permissions work in tandem.  So it is feasible you could block in one, allow in the other, and the result would be "no access"
[17:13] <oerheks> for those filemanager issues, look into nautilius-actions, nautilus-admin and other plugins, see synaptic
[17:13] <ExcessiveAggro> the Intent of ACL is to expand the functionality of standard *nix permissions - for scenarios that standard permissions do not allow
[17:13] <oerheks> !synaptic
[17:13] <oerheks> a more detailed softwarecenter.
[17:13] <oerheks> and ugly Rythmbox.. use a theme, or just listen
[17:15] <ExcessiveAggro> banekondic996 - "Why is it hard to access root direcotry via file browser, why is it in "other locations" and not in quick access?"  || This is the same on all operating systems including Mac and Windows.  Typically users should not be working outside of their home directory so they make it a couple more steps to get to '/'.  If you are someone who uses '/' often you can add to bookmarks
[17:16] <banekondic996> @oerheks I love synaptic, fixes everything for me for installing. I used it before when i had older Ubuntu. But for file manager issue, i just hope there will be integration that you don't have to install or tweak stuff when you install OS.
[17:16] <oerheks> nautilus-admin fixes that
[17:16] <thebiffman_> FYI: Think I found out why my samba share stopped working after adding ACLs. Seems that execute right was needed to browse the share...
[17:16] <ExcessiveAggro> click "other locations", select your drive, then click "computer" at the top and select "add to bookmarks"
[17:16] <thebiffman_> Need to do more testing with different users but seems to work now..
[17:16] <banekondic996> As i remeber it was included before in older Ubuntu but not anymore
[17:16] <oerheks> well, sorry to tell you, you have to fix this yourself, i just gave a hint how
[17:16] <banekondic996> remember
[17:17] <oerheks> next?
[17:18] <banekondic996> ExcessiveAggro Oh ok, thanks for answer. I do use / a lot.
[17:19] <ExcessiveAggro> banekondic996 - "Why is there no create new file when i right click desktop or right click in any folder? I want to create script file fast..." || My personal opinion on this is that the desktop isn't used quite the same on linux so the right click context menus are not as robust in all scenarios.  However the good news is that you can make it more robust unlike other operating systems.  Here is a link to create d
[17:19] <ExcessiveAggro> ocuments like you suggest : https://ostechnix.com/how-to-add-new-document-option-in-right-click-context-menu-in-ubuntu-18-04/
[17:24] <ExcessiveAggro> banekondic996: "Why does System Monitor app look so simple with "processes" tab so non organized just plain simple list of running processes?" || No linux distribution will be great at everything.  Instead they put in defaults apps that are simple and stable.  But you can grow out of those packages by installing things that are better for you.  For this question I would take a look here: https://www.ubuntupit.com/
[17:24] <ExcessiveAggro> best-linux-task-manager-top-12-reviewed-for-linux-nerds/
[17:27] <ExcessiveAggro> banekondic996: "Why do app instaling require typing in terminal, cant you make it more simple? Like why don't site just make downloadable scripts that do it for you, why lose time typing?" || I think this is just a difference in philosophy.  When I used windows/mac I would search the web for software, download, install, hope that it didnt have viruses.  Now search the web for the task I am trying to get done, open
[17:27] <ExcessiveAggro>  my terminal and type "sudo apt install <x>" and I'm fairly certain the software is safe.  No doubt a GUI might make things easier but typing didnt really slow me down.
[17:29] <ExcessiveAggro> And for the record... these .deb packages actually are a collection of scripts, binaries, etc. that make installation easier :) Before packages you were in a world of hurt figuring out versions, dependencies, compile options, etc.
[17:31] <ExcessiveAggro> I'd like to get in to your other questions but I need to help the wife out with a few things.  Hope these few answers get you moving a little
[17:31] <banekondic996> Well thank you for your answers ExcessiveAggro. The shortcut for making documents really makes it easier for me, also Synaptic is golden i just forgot about it as i used it on Ubuntu 10.04 or 11.04.
[17:31] <banekondic996> For rythmbox i'l try to contribute for design
[18:06] <slicktux> Anyone else loose their WiFi drivers and unable to startx after latest update?
[18:10] <Maik> sigh... impatient
[18:18] <tempted2race> Hello
[18:19] <tempted2race> Can someone help me out with display resolutions? I have an old laptop running Ubuntu Desktop 20.04 with Noveau drivers. My laptop is capable of 1920x1080 but it only offers 1920x1080i and it looks awful (fuzzy)
[18:21] <tempted2race> I have googled it and see xrandr is something that may help... but I don't understand how they get the values they put in the command... or if some of them are even necessary.
[18:22] <pavlos> tempted2race: use cvt to get the modelines then add them to xrandr
[18:22] <pavlos> tempted2race: example: cvt 1920 1080
[18:22] <tempted2race> pavlos ok
[18:24] <pavlos> tempted2race: example: then xrandr --newmode "the info that came from cvt"
[18:24] <tempted2race> From the Modeline response?
[18:25] <tempted2race> pavlos # 1920x1080 59.96 Hz (CVT 2.07M9) hsync: 67.16 kHz; pclk: 173.00 MHz
[18:25] <tempted2race> Modeline "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[18:25] <pavlos> tempted2race: cvt 1920 1080 gives me Modeline "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[18:25] <pavlos> tempted2race: correct
[18:28] <tempted2race> Do I use addmode then?
[18:28] <tempted2race> sorry
[18:28] <tempted2race> yes... actually... I used newmode... now I should use addmode?
[18:29] <pavlos> tempted2race: yex, xrandr --addmode DEVICE 1920x1080_60.00   where DEVICE could be VGA-0 or LAPTOPdevice
[18:29] <pavlos> yes*
[18:29] <tempted2race> ahh... HDMI-1
[18:30] <pavlos> tempted2race: and finally, xrandr --output HDMI-1 1920x1080_60.00
[18:31] <pavlos> tempted2race: these are my notes from 3 years ago, things may have changed
[18:32] <pavlos> tempted2race: edit ... xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080_60.00   (forgot the --mode part)
[18:33] <tempted2race> thank you
[18:33] <pavlos> yw
[18:33] <tempted2race> lol... I was just about to write i was having trouble...
[18:35] <tempted2race> pavlos well it accepted the commands
[18:35] <tempted2race> pavlos but I have a pop-up saying there's a system error
[18:35] <tempted2race> happened with addmode too
[18:36] <tempted2race> pavlos I may need to reinstall
[18:36] <pavlos> tempted2race: can you screenshot that popup
[18:37] <tempted2race> Not a lot to tell... typical "System program problem detected - Do you want to report the problem now? Cancel Report Problem...
[18:37] <pavlos> tempted2race: so that's a second monitor hdmi connected to the laptop?
[18:38] <tempted2race> Yes... it's an old laptop BTW... Dell XPS from around 2011
[18:38] <tempted2race> I've had trouble with Nvidia drivers
[18:38] <tempted2race> but Nvidia gave me 1920x1080... it would freeze the system after random amounts of time
[18:39] <pavlos> tempted2race: laptop model?
[18:39] <tempted2race> Dell XPS L502X
[18:39] <pavlos> ubuntu 20.04 ?
[18:40] <tempted2race> Yup... 20.04 LTS
[18:41] <tempted2race> pavlos I'm losing faith in this laptop
[18:42] <pavlos> well, I'm looking for specs ... says this laptop has onboard HD3000 and nvidia gt525
[18:42] <soft_concrete> Hi, when I use Ubuntu in Wayland mode after using a GNOME session for a while, I get these odd borders around windows and UI elements within the windows, where my desktop wallpaper shows through. Have any of you experienced this? What might be the cause?
[18:43] <tempted2race> pavlos actually... it's 540M
[18:43] <tempted2race> Didn't know about the HD3000
[18:43] <soft_concrete> almost all intel CPUs (all the consumer ones, AFAIK) have an iGPU
[18:43] <tempted2race> k
[18:44] <pavlos> this is very old post ... https://hanynowsky.wordpress.com/2012/04/07/dell-xps-15-l502x-ubuntu-linux/
[18:44] <soft_concrete> what's the issue you're having with the laptop?
[18:45] <pavlos> soft_concrete: he's using nouveau driver, screen is fuzzy so he tries to add a mode with xrandr
[18:46] <tempted2race> I have stability issues when using Nvidia drivers (390)
[18:47] <tempted2race> I was pretty solid a while back. I have tried different kernels with Nvidia too but it didn't seem to help
[18:47] <tempted2race> *It
[18:47] <pasiz> nvidia GT / GTX 5XX are prone to crash with nouveau
[18:47] <locsmif> Hi all. I need a somewhat functioning Ubuntu LiveCD with which to view and salvage some files off of a broken Windows 7 install. I'm helping a friend. The regular ISO would take him 45 minutes. The netboot ISO doesn't seem like has much to work with. Is there something in between.
[18:47] <tempted2race> :/
[18:48] <soft_concrete> locsmif: do you know how big the regular ISO is? I'll see if what I'm thinking of is significantly smaller. Also, does it have to be Ubuntu?
[18:49] <pavlos> locsmif: you can boot with puppy linux, mount the win7 drive and cp files
[18:49] <locsmif> soft_concrete: yes, about 2.7 GB
[18:49] <LiveWire> soft_concrete: I own a concrete company, your nick?
[18:49] <soft_concrete> LiveWire: something I chose at random
[18:49] <locsmif> pavlos: puppy linux anything like Ubuntu?
[18:50] <LiveWire> really random :)
[18:50] <soft_concrete> locsmif: most linux distros are very similar. which features of Ubuntu do you need
[18:50] <pavlos> locsmif: no basic linux, use command line
[18:50] <graczNR6> Some versions of Puppy are compatible with Ubuntu
[18:50] <soft_concrete> perhaps you want the GNOME desktop? or do you not need a graphical interface?
[18:51] <graczNR6> GNOME can always be installed
[18:51] <pavlos> locsmif: puppy linux is small, 300M, give it a test drive. It has file manager and other stuff but easy to work with
[18:52] <tempted2race> pavlos rebooting
[18:52] <pavlos> fingers crossed
[18:54] <pavlos> locsmif: http://puppylinux.com/screenshots.html
[18:54] <locsmif> I'm not going to be able to use a terminal-based Linux, my friend doesn't know his way around on that
[18:54] <locsmif> Of course, I do, but he doesn't
[18:55] <soft_concrete> it seems like puppy is the recommendation
[18:56] <pavlos> locsmif: there is a fossa puppy 64 bit, 409M see this page, http://puppylinux.com/
[18:56] <soft_concrete> 400MB... should take 10 mins
[18:56] <pavlos> I'll try it on a vm ...
[18:59] <locsmif> pavlos: does that have any sort of desktop environment?
[18:59] <soft_concrete> locsmif: it does, but not the same as Ubuntu
[18:59] <soft_concrete> locsmif: here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=qibxDA_Kxdk&feature=emb_logo
[19:00] <soft_concrete> I mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qibxDA_Kxdk
[19:01] <tempted2race> pavlos hey... well.. no luck...
[19:01] <pavlos> locsmif: yes, ubuntu-like (the fossa puppy
[19:01] <tempted2race> pavlos But i did not know that the Problem Detected eventually gives details
[19:02] <pavlos> tempted2race: maybe you can blacklist nvidia and let it install the onboard HD3000 driver
[19:02] <tempted2race> At least as far as I recall from a year ago I never got details from Problem Detected dialogs
[19:02] <tempted2race> pavlos that's an interesting thought
[19:03] <tempted2race> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[19:03] <tempted2race> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 540M] (rev a1)
[19:08] <pavlos> tempted2race: that old article says to use bumblebee (never used it)
[19:14] <pavlos> locsmif: this is how fossa puppy looks, https://imgur.com/a/FeqpbKk
[19:16] <oerheks> that card usually runs best on the 340, AFAIK
[19:17] <pavlos> tempted2race: install nvidia-340 per oerheks suggestion
[19:18] <locsmif> pavlos, thanks for the tip
[19:18] <locsmif> pavlos: looking into it, multitasking atm
[19:19] <pavlos> locsmif: no worries, Linux is fun
[19:19] <locsmif> pavlos, haha I know, I was a distro co-dev :P
[19:20] <tempted2race> ok
[19:20] <tempted2race> I'll try 340
[19:20] <locsmif> Doesn't mean I'm that up-to-date on all the various flavours on DistroWatch :P
[19:20] <tempted2race> last time I tried it I got an error at the very end
[19:24] <pavlos> tempted2race: make sure you have no nvidia installed, (dpkg -l | grep nvidia) then try to install -340
[19:25] <tempted2race> I see nvidia still in there
[19:25] <tempted2race> 390 and 340
[19:26] <tempted2race> apt purge nvidia*?
[19:26] <tempted2race> from recovery mode?
[19:26] <pavlos> tempted2race: yes, purge them, make sure it reboots to nouveau and then try sudo apt install nvidia-340
[19:27] <pavlos> tempted2race: I think it is, sudo apt install nvidia-driver-340
[19:29] <ningu> did something recently happen in ubuntu that might cause a host's ssh key to change automatically? or could that only be done manually?
[19:29] <lordcirth> ningu, maybe if you did a do-release-upgrade?
[19:30] <lordcirth> Or you had your server config changed to allow old key formats
[19:30] <ningu> no, it's been on 20.04 all along
[19:30] <ningu> something happened on December 27 and I'm trying to figure out what
[19:30] <ningu> one sec, I'll paste what I found from auth.log
[19:31] <ningu> ok: https://pastebin.com/6zEFt77U
[19:31] <ningu> it rebooted at the same time, 17:54
[19:32] <ningu> not sure what the password for ubuntu user is all about, either
[19:32] <ningu> this is on AWS so conceivably it was initiated by them? but that seems unlikely
[19:33] <ningu> I don't see any record there of the ssh key being regenerated per se but the mod time on the file shows it was then
[19:33] <lordcirth> ningu, perhaps cloud-init
[19:34] <ningu> this is a stand-alone AWS instance and not managed by anything else
[19:34] <ningu> it would have to be something AWS imposed/required or whatever
[19:36] <ningu> any idea what the ^@ business in auth.log is?
[19:37] <frib> How can I stop my wifi from being turned off randomly? Wifi power saving is on but turning off doesn't help
[19:37] <graczNR6> Maybe some hardware problem?
[19:38] <frib> graczNR6, like what?
[19:39] <frib> the physical switch to enable wifi is on
[19:39] <graczNR6> No. Do you have USB dongle or built in?
[19:40] <frib> built in
[19:41] <graczNR6> Check drivers
[19:41] <frib> ok how?
[19:41] <graczNR6> Some cards require drivers. You can install them in "Additional drivers"
[19:42] <frib> ok I use a different desktop
[19:42] <frib> how can I run that from terminal?
[19:42] <pavlos> ningu: seems user root changed the password for user ubuntu that day (dec 27
[19:51] <graczNR6> frib: i don't know. It's GNOME specific
[19:51] <frib> ok. so there must be a way to check drivers from terminal
[19:52] <graczNR6> GNOME has a nice gui that does everything for you
[19:53] <oerheks> what desktop does not give the driver update tool?
[19:53] <frib> I use fluxbox
[19:54] <frib> what should I do about this also btw
[19:54] <frib> E: Could not configure 'libc6:i386'.
[19:54] <frib> E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgcc-s1:i386'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2)
[19:54] <frib> when installing wine64
[19:54] <oerheks>  sudo ubuntu-drivers list/autoinstall
[19:55] <frib> list showed nothing
[19:55] <frib> No drivers found for installation
[19:55] <oerheks> then the wifi driver you already have is the one you should use..
[19:56] <frib> yes I didnt' think otherwise
[19:56] <oerheks> probably already a kernelmodule
[19:56] <frib> the issue is that my wifi is apparently stuck on power saving mode
[19:56] <frib> so it shuts off randomly when I don't want it to
[19:56] <frib> I Tried: sudo sed -i 's/wifi.powersave = 3/wifi.powersave = 2/' /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/default-wifi-powersave-on.conf && systemctl restart network-manager.service
[19:57] <frib> but that doesn't help
[19:57] <oerheks> see with the lspci output  if that is a known issue
[19:57] <oerheks> the 8 digit hex number is important
[19:57] <frib> yeah vendor product ok
[19:58] <frib> 10:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6200 (rev 35)
[19:58] <frib> this is it right
[19:58] <frib> but theres no id
[19:59] <frib> also a strange thing is that in gnome-control-center when I turn of the option to turn off wifi to save power, it immediately turns my wifi off
[19:59] <pavlos> which kernel do you have?
[19:59] <frib> 5.4.0-59-generic #65-Ubuntu
[20:17] <varaindemian> evernote or google notes?
[20:17] <varaindemian> on ubuntu
[20:18] <tempted2race> pavlos I had to fix something else (clothes dryer :D  )... apt purge nvidia* doesn't find anything... but dpkg -l | grep nvidia shows items from both nvidia 340 and 390
[20:20] <tempted2race> maybe dpkg -r nvidia* and libnvidia*?
[20:20] <tempted2race> (or enumerate each item if wildcard doesn't work there)
[20:23] <black_13> i have been trying to use schroot to do a chroot but getting https://bpa.st/KGAQ
[20:37] <Zajt> Hey! I am running these commands https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cSRdShrCCj/ when I try to install dotnet on my ubuntu 20.04 according to https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/install/linux-ubuntu  But I get this error: https://imgur.com/Ug4bauc - any ideas ?
[20:40] <arooni> ok so taskwarrior is latest version according to the package: taskwarrior is already the newest version (2.5.1+dfsg-9). ;; but if i install over it from source
[20:40] <arooni> am i messing things up
[20:40] <arooni> b/c source is 2.5.3
[20:40] <arooni> but there's no ppa apparently
[20:42] <lordcirth__> arooni, don't put your install over the package files; install it elsewhere and remove the package
[20:44] <arooni> thats what i figured
[20:44] <arooni> but what happens if you made the mistake
[20:44] <arooni> and installed it over itself?
[20:44] <arooni> in this case i dontw ant to lose any config files
[20:44] <arooni> so i would do sudo apt-get remove   but not the --purge?
[20:47] <_jak> hi! How do you get an LTS install to use a new kernel by default? I have installed linux-generic-hwe-20.04-edge installed, and I have the headers for the 5.8 kernel installed, but I can't figure out how to use it at boot
[20:47] <oerheks> Zajt, maybe the snap is a better idea; https://snapcraft.io/dotnet-sdk
[20:48] <oerheks> _jak, usually just update, and grub would put the latest kernel in front
[20:49] <Zajt> yeah that worked like a charm, thanks oerheks
[20:49] <oerheks> hit esc or shift to enter the grub menu while booting
[20:49] <oerheks> !grub
[20:51] <_jak> oerheks: That's what I thought would happen, but after rebooting, I'm still on 5.4 rather than 5.8
[20:51] <_jak> even in the advanced options, 5.8 isn't in the list
[20:52] <_jak> I think this may be because I'm using zsys, the zfs implementation, which I think does something different with regard to /boot
[20:56] <Kon> _jak:  sudo apt install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-20.04
[20:56] <Kon> HWE is the new kernel that comes with point releases
[20:59] <oerheks> linux-generic-hwe-20.04-edge <>  linux-generic-hwe-20.04
[21:00] <oerheks> yeah, not sure what is valid now
[21:03] <_jak> but isn't it the case that hwe-20.04-edge is also valid, and just a newer kernel than hwe-20.04?
[21:04] <jeremy31> _jak: I don't think edge really exists right now as there isn't a supported kernel newer than 5.8
[21:05] <_jak> jeremy31: meaning that installing the package is a no-op?
[21:06] <jeremy31> _jak: both packages point at the same kernel right now
[21:06] <_jak> I should mention that I tried hwe-20.04 first and it didn't work, so I tried hwe-20.04-edge
[21:06] <_jak> jeremy31: ah that makes sense
[21:10] <_jak> I think I have some more investigating to do, but it looks like there's a bug in zsys that I'm running into
[21:31] <jwash> what's the best way to compress and archive a data directory with millions of files?
[21:33] <jwash> I think the solution is: export GZIP=-9 && tar cvzf file.tar.gz /path/to/directory
[21:36] <misternumberone> hello I have the "inverse"/opposite of this problem https://askubuntu.com/questions/1142052/how-to-disable-select-audio-device-pop-up-on-ubuntu-18-04. I want to see the popup, but I don't currently. Installing that extension, enabling it, then disabling it has no effect, so that solution seems to be "one-way".
[21:37] <misternumberone> I am able to use the combination speaker/microphone devices's microphone by selecting the device manually in audio settings. however I would like to see the popup to be able to select it more conveniently
[21:48] <makara1> im on the hunt again for a PDF annotation tool. Any suggestions?
[21:52] <barg> looking at these instructions https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/20/admin_manual/installation/example_ubuntu.html it says  tar -xjfv nextcloud-x.y.z.tar.bz2   but when I do it  tar -xjfv nextcloud-20.0.4.tar.bz2  I get an error https://gist.githubusercontent.com/gartha1/3223ec1fbc07ee5e0cff15a0440eaad2/raw/e5f7c58eacd831d1ee64707065cb23ddf641a47d/gistfile1.txt   "tar (child): v: Cannot open:
[21:52] <barg> No such file or directory"  and if I do it with ./ then still same error so tar -xjfv ./nextcloud-20.0.4.tar.bz2    same error
[21:54] <barg> I guess perhaps there's an error in their document and the -v should be before the -f .
[21:55] <Seveas> barg correct
[22:01] <oerheks> barg, we support the snap version
[22:02] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/nextcloud
[22:05] <jeremy31> barg tar -xjvf nextcloud-20.0.4.tar.bz2
[22:15] <barg> thanks
[22:37] <grizzly_btw> howdy everyone :)
[22:56] <tete_> hi, i have problems in resizing my window(s). the marker when i use the mouse is way too small and its hard to hit it for resizing. can someone tell me if its possible to make this bigger?
[22:56] <tete_> i have to exactly hit the corner of a window to resize it, which is quiet hard
[23:04] <oerheks> alt + F8 = resize shortkey
[23:05] <tomreyn> tete_: alt + middle mouse button somewhere roughly near the window border
[23:05] <tete_> nothing happens with alt + middle mouse button
[23:06] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version and variant are you running?
[23:06] <tete_> also nothing happens when i hit alt + f8, i use xubuntu
[23:06] <tomreyn> ...
[23:07] <oerheks> oh, good to mention what ubuntu, default is gnome3
[23:07] <tete_> my bad ;)
[23:07] <tomreyn> alt-f1 should be resize on xfce
[23:07] <tomreyn> but xubuntu specific questions are best asked in #xubuntu
[23:08] <oerheks> alt + f8 should work, unless the page is maximised
[23:08] <tomreyn> https://xubuntu.org/news/window-resizing-in-xubuntu-and-xfce/ *may* still apply
[23:09] <tete_> i was holding alt + f1 and now i have a window open which does not disappear, looks like the whisker menu
[23:09] <tomreyn> press escape then
[23:09] <tete_> does not help
[23:10] <tomreyn> ask in #xubuntu :)
[23:10] <tete_> i'll try xkill, hope i do not hit the background
[23:10] <tete_> its un-kill-able 0o
[23:10] <tete_> i ask in xubuntu, thanks
[23:12] <theteju> Ethernet connection stopped working
[23:13] <theteju> Please help.
[23:13] <theteju> lshw -C network show the hardware
[23:13] <theteju> I tried two different ethernet adapter. and a usb adapter,, it just doen't get online
[23:14] <theteju> Someone please help
[23:14] <theteju> i am on 20.04
[23:14] <theteju> KUbuntu
[23:15] <tomreyn> theteju: hi. when did it stop working? were you upgrading kubuntu or rebooting, or something?
[23:15] <theteju> We had a power outage.. and it stopped working after that
[23:16] <oerheks> did you try to reboot the router?
[23:16] <tomreyn> do you run other operating systems on this system other than kubuntu?
[23:16] <theteju> @tomreyn : NO this is the only system on the drive.
[23:17] <tomreyn> what about the router?
[23:17] <theteju> @oerheks : everything else seems to get onine fine. Router is doing its job.
[23:18] <tomreyn> fully power down the computer, and power it up again, try again.
[23:18] <theteju> @tomreyn : I tried that too.
[23:20] <tomreyn> theteju: post   journalctl -kb | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:22] <theteju> Temporary failure in name resolution
[23:22] <tomreyn> theteju: post   journalctl -kb | nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[23:23] <theteju> newer ubuntu does not have /etc/network/interfaces file anymore?
[23:24] <theteju> I came accross a post says, it now uses netplan!!
[23:24] <tomreyn> on servers, desktops use network-manager by default. neither use /etc/network/interfaces by default
[23:25] <tomreyn> you should read release notes
[23:26] <theteju> I do not have ifup , ifdown commands to troubleshoot. Fact is in am lost considering where to start to have manually configure my eth card so that it gets online.
[23:27] <tomreyn> kubuntu is a desktop system. what did i tell you about desktop systems?
[23:28] <tomreyn> they use network-manager by default. there's a graphical interface to it, but also nmcli as a command lin einterface
[23:29] <tomreyn> there is also the 'ip' command you can also use to manage and configure an ethernet network interface
[23:30] <theteju> @tomreyn : roger that. I appreciate your replies,,
[23:30] <tomreyn> your specific issue seems to be around name resolution
[23:30] <theteju> It appears that my eth0 and/or eth1 both cards are unclaimed.
[23:30] <tomreyn> but that's a bit of a guess based on the only (one) error / warning message we've seen from youtr system so far
[23:44] <frib> how can I get the vendor/product id of my wifi card?
[23:45] <tomreyn> lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:46] <theteju> @tomreyn : sorry i got disconnected
[23:47] <nmatrix> Hi All, running a Ubunt 20.04 on a Asus Tuf A17, when I try to use virtualbox 6.1.16 I'm getting a Kernel: [ 151.290782]: skb_under_panic: text:ffffffffffc0d14f40 len: 244 put:48 head:ffff9f56c9c33800 data:ffff9f56c9c337f2 tail:0xe6 end 0x2c0 dev:wlp3s0-v2
[23:47] <nmatrix> This is using a bridged adapter network configuration with wlp3s0-v2.
[23:48] <nmatrix> Using a  bridged network adapter connection for a few minutes on Virtualbox freezes the entire machine in a few minutes.
[23:49] <tomreyn> theteju: no problem, unstable router?
[23:50] <theteju> @tomreyn : router is solid. stable.
[23:50] <tomreyn> then why the disconnect?
[23:50] <tomreyn> nmatrix: can oyu post    journalctl -kb | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:51] <theteju> ifconfig does not even list eth0 only "lo"
[23:51] <theteju> loopback
[23:51] <black_13> are the debug versions of all or some packages
[23:52] <nmatrix> @tomreyn I got back "https://termbin.com/p112"
[23:52] <tomreyn> theteju: this should list identified network hardware: lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller'
[23:53] <nmatrix> tomreyn I got back "https://termbin.com/p112"
[23:54] <theteju> @tomreyn : lspci show both ethernet adapters on the system
[23:54] <theteju> something messed up with network manager ,, that It does not see my cards. (I guess)
[23:56] <tomreyn> nmatrix: ah this is full of UFW logs to the end. alsom, there's an amdgpu kernel oops. but i guess that's unrelated.
[23:56] <tomreyn> nmatrix: try whether it works better with ufw disabled, though.
[23:57] <josspyker> network manager is always the problem. Since 6.04 it is still a piece of shit
[23:57] <jeremy31> josspyker: complain upstream about it
[23:58] <josspyker> no use
[23:58] <tomreyn> it won't help support anyways
[23:58] <josspyker> true, just frustation.
[23:58] <tomreyn> nmatrix: also, post    journalctl -b | grep -v UFW | nc termbin.com 9999
[23:59] <tomreyn> theteju: so it's just a matter of configuration then
[23:59] <tomreyn> theteju: nmcli d; nmcli c