| JackFrost | xfce4-taskmanager could make sense, not sure about catfish though... | 05:18 |
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| jphilips | search is a basic feature of a file manager, and as thunar doesn't have it built in, catfish is important IMO | 07:45 |
| jphilips | is the build system output anywhere, as i'd like to see how xubuntu is built from source | 07:46 |
| JackFrost | I guess it's not a basic feature of a file manager if thunar doesn't have it, then. :P | 11:23 |
| JackFrost | https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/xubuntu/hirsute/ | 11:26 |
| jphilips | basic feature of a modern file manager :D | 11:45 |
| JackFrost | Are you proposing we change file managers..? | 11:46 |
| jphilips | thanks for the link, but it seems to only show outputs. is there a build script somewhere | 11:46 |
| JackFrost | That's part of the cdimage team or whatnot, in git. | 11:47 |
| jphilips | nope not suggesting we change file managers, i prefer thunar, but all other file managers have builtin search, other than pcmanfm | 11:47 |
| JackFrost | "All" is a rather wide statement.. | 11:49 |
| jphilips | all except thunar and pcmanfm | 11:51 |
| jphilips | atleast when it comes to the major file managers used on all the linux DEs | 11:51 |
| JackFrost | Basically, the point is that different people consider differently what's a basic desktop feature, thunar lacking a find tool would indicate someone doesn't agree with you. Indeed, I haven't used catfish in a very long time, if I have. I've heard before that Core already has a bit of bloat, which yes it does, we want to avoid "Core is just desktop but without firefox". There you go, "Of KDE, | 11:52 |
| JackFrost | GNOME, MATE, Xfce, and LXDE; Xfce and LXDE are the only ones that don't have find" ;) | 11:52 |
| jphilips | its great seeing that 4.16 got into bullseye | 11:53 |
| JackFrost | Nothing specifically against catfish of course, though there are other tools that do the same. Mugshot is just the one I'm really not for, unless the deps were fixed. :P | 11:54 |
| JackFrost | ...Back in 2017, very good then. | 11:56 |
| jphilips | mugshot does let you set an account image/photo which isn't configurable anywhere else that i can see, so it does have a use :D | 11:59 |
| JackFrost | Never claimed it didn't. Also, cp Pictures/unit193.png .face isn't really *that* hard. | 12:01 |
| jphilips | definitely not hard if you knew how to do it. i didn't until you just mentioned it :D | 12:04 |
| JackFrost | But! You're in luck, we *do* have mugshot on the desktop ISO! | 12:04 |
| JackFrost | Technically it'd be better to use 'convert' to ensure you have the right size, but details. | 12:05 |
| DarkTrick | jphilips, I think the thunar-approach is the cleanest of all | 14:12 |
| DarkTrick | catfish is a plugin | 14:13 |
| DarkTrick | This is general modularization of software | 14:13 |
| DarkTrick | It leaves you the option of 1) updating one without the other 2) let users decide which search engine they'd like to use. | 14:14 |
| DarkTrick | search engine -> search module | 14:15 |
| DarkTrick | e.g. I think cat fish works pretty poorly and am happy it's not built into thunar; otherwise I couldn't exchange it | 14:15 |
| jphilips | catfish isn't a plugin, its a separate app. if it was a plugin, it would extend the functionality of thunar without having to leave it. | 14:23 |
| jphilips | having a separate search app for more extensive searching is one thing, but a simple recursive search through the current folder isn't something that needs to be outside of a file manager | 14:30 |
| DarkTrick | jphilips, did you tried Ctrl+S ? | 14:35 |
| DarkTrick | in Thunar | 14:35 |
| DarkTrick | that's a search within the current folder | 14:35 |
| DarkTrick | jphilips, it's a matter of definition whether to call catfish "plugin". I call it that, because the functionality is "plug-in-able". | 14:36 |
| jphilips | nope hadn't tried Ctrl+S before. i normally just start typing to find a file within the current folder | 14:43 |
| DarkTrick | I also just found out about it the other day, but for "the current folder" it works pretty well | 15:03 |
| bluesabre | JackFrost: tagged some new releases * https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce/releases/tag/v0.15.2 * https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/releases/tag/v3.22.14 | 23:05 |
| bluesabre | Working on updating greybird now | 23:06 |
| ochosi | thnks bluesabre | 23:08 |
| bluesabre | JackFrost: ready for upload if you'd like to sponsor: https://salsa.debian.org/desktop-themes-team/greybird-gtk-theme/-/tree/debian/master | 23:16 |
| bluesabre | JackFrost: https://salsa.debian.org/xfce-extras-team/elementary-xfce is likewise ready, save for a lintian error about the duplicate-globbing-patterns | 23:50 |
| bluesabre | E: elementary-xfce source: duplicate-globbing-patterns elementary-xfce/emblems/*/emblem-readonly.svg in lines 10 30 | 23:50 |
| bluesabre | E: elementary-xfce source: duplicate-globbing-patterns elementary-xfce/emblems/*/emblem-unreadable.svg in lines 10 30 | 23:50 |
| bluesabre | E: elementary-xfce source: duplicate-globbing-patterns elementary-xfce/tools/*/draw-brush.svg in lines 10 30 | 23:50 |
| bluesabre | E: elementary-xfce source: duplicate-globbing-patterns elementary-xfce/tools/*/draw-freehand.svg in lines 10 30 | 23:50 |
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