[05:18] xfce4-taskmanager could make sense, not sure about catfish though... [07:45] search is a basic feature of a file manager, and as thunar doesn't have it built in, catfish is important IMO [07:46] is the build system output anywhere, as i'd like to see how xubuntu is built from source [11:23] I guess it's not a basic feature of a file manager if thunar doesn't have it, then. :P [11:26] https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/xubuntu/hirsute/ [11:45] basic feature of a modern file manager :D [11:46] Are you proposing we change file managers..? [11:46] thanks for the link, but it seems to only show outputs. is there a build script somewhere [11:47] That's part of the cdimage team or whatnot, in git. [11:47] nope not suggesting we change file managers, i prefer thunar, but all other file managers have builtin search, other than pcmanfm [11:49] "All" is a rather wide statement.. [11:51] all except thunar and pcmanfm [11:51] atleast when it comes to the major file managers used on all the linux DEs [11:52] Basically, the point is that different people consider differently what's a basic desktop feature, thunar lacking a find tool would indicate someone doesn't agree with you. Indeed, I haven't used catfish in a very long time, if I have. I've heard before that Core already has a bit of bloat, which yes it does, we want to avoid "Core is just desktop but without firefox". There you go, "Of KDE, [11:52] GNOME, MATE, Xfce, and LXDE; Xfce and LXDE are the only ones that don't have find" ;) [11:53] its great seeing that 4.16 got into bullseye [11:54] Nothing specifically against catfish of course, though there are other tools that do the same. Mugshot is just the one I'm really not for, unless the deps were fixed. :P [11:56] ...Back in 2017, very good then. [11:59] mugshot does let you set an account image/photo which isn't configurable anywhere else that i can see, so it does have a use :D [12:01] Never claimed it didn't. Also, cp Pictures/unit193.png .face isn't really *that* hard. [12:04] definitely not hard if you knew how to do it. i didn't until you just mentioned it :D [12:04] But! You're in luck, we *do* have mugshot on the desktop ISO! [12:05] Technically it'd be better to use 'convert' to ensure you have the right size, but details. [14:12] jphilips, I think the thunar-approach is the cleanest of all [14:13] catfish is a plugin [14:13] This is general modularization of software [14:14] It leaves you the option of 1) updating one without the other 2) let users decide which search engine they'd like to use. [14:15] search engine -> search module [14:15] e.g. I think cat fish works pretty poorly and am happy it's not built into thunar; otherwise I couldn't exchange it [14:23] catfish isn't a plugin, its a separate app. if it was a plugin, it would extend the functionality of thunar without having to leave it. [14:30] having a separate search app for more extensive searching is one thing, but a simple recursive search through the current folder isn't something that needs to be outside of a file manager [14:35] jphilips, did you tried Ctrl+S ? [14:35] in Thunar [14:35] that's a search within the current folder [14:36] jphilips, it's a matter of definition whether to call catfish "plugin". I call it that, because the functionality is "plug-in-able". [14:43] nope hadn't tried Ctrl+S before. i normally just start typing to find a file within the current folder [15:03] I also just found out about it the other day, but for "the current folder" it works pretty well [23:05] JackFrost: tagged some new releases * https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce/releases/tag/v0.15.2 * https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/releases/tag/v3.22.14 [23:06] Working on updating greybird now [23:08] thnks bluesabre [23:16] JackFrost: ready for upload if you'd like to sponsor: https://salsa.debian.org/desktop-themes-team/greybird-gtk-theme/-/tree/debian/master [23:50] JackFrost: https://salsa.debian.org/xfce-extras-team/elementary-xfce is likewise ready, save for a lintian error about the duplicate-globbing-patterns [23:50] E: elementary-xfce source: duplicate-globbing-patterns elementary-xfce/emblems/*/emblem-readonly.svg in lines 10 30 [23:50] E: elementary-xfce source: duplicate-globbing-patterns elementary-xfce/emblems/*/emblem-unreadable.svg in lines 10 30 [23:50] E: elementary-xfce source: duplicate-globbing-patterns elementary-xfce/tools/*/draw-brush.svg in lines 10 30 [23:50] E: elementary-xfce source: duplicate-globbing-patterns elementary-xfce/tools/*/draw-freehand.svg in lines 10 30