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rafaeldtinoco#startmeeting Ubuntu Developer Membership Board Meeting15:03
meetingologyMeeting started Mon Jan 11 15:03:14 2021 UTC.  The chair is rafaeldtinoco. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:03
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rafaeldtinocochair rafaeldtinoco15:03
rafaeldtinoco#chair rafaeldtinoco15:03
meetingologyCurrent chairs: rafaeldtinoco15:03
rafaeldtinoco#topic Review of previous action items15:03
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rafaeldtinocoddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over)15:04
ddstreetcarry over please15:04
rafaeldtinoco#action ddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over)15:04
meetingologyACTION: ddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over)15:04
rafaeldtinocoddstreet to update the KnowledgeBase with details regarding creation of new packagesets15:04
ddstreetyep i believe that's done15:05
rafaeldtinocotku! ... next one15:05
rafaeldtinocoddstreet to add DKMS packages to the new kernel-dkms packageset15:05
ddstreetyep that is done15:05
rafaeldtinocoperfect! moving on..15:05
rafaeldtinocorbasak to reply to ML re: canonical-oem-metapackages packageset and owning team creation (carried over)15:05
tewardderp15:06
tewardo/15:07
teward(I am here!)15:07
rafaeldtinocoteward: o/15:07
rbasakCarry over please15:07
rbasakI'll get to it very soon now I promise15:07
rafaeldtinoco#action rbasak to reply to ML re: canonical-oem-metapackages packageset and owning team creation (carried over)15:07
meetingologyACTION: rbasak to reply to ML re: canonical-oem-metapackages packageset and owning team creation (carried over)15:07
tewardsorry was communicating privately with rbasak on a few things (and stabbing someone because one of my employers service providers has an email breach)15:07
rafaeldtinocono worries, tku15:07
rafaeldtinocosil2100: yours are marked as done15:08
rafaeldtinocojust referencing here for documentation15:08
rafaeldtinocosil2100 to add slyon to core-dev (done)15:08
rafaeldtinocosil2100 to announce slyon's successful application (done)15:08
rafaeldtinocothat gives us next top15:08
rafaeldtinocotopic15:08
rafaeldtinoco#topic Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications15:08
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rafaeldtinocotoday we have 2 applicants15:08
rafaeldtinocoparide: hello15:08
rafaeldtinocoparide: would you mind introducing yourself to the group ?15:09
paridehello Rafael! sure.15:09
teward#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ParideLegovini/UbuntuServerDeveloperApplication15:10
parideI'm Paride Legovini, longtime Linux (Debian/Ubuntu) user located in Italy. I'm currently part of the Ubuntu Server team where I work as the QA engineer.15:10
teward#chair teward15:10
meetingologyCurrent chairs: rafaeldtinoco teward15:10
parideMy application page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ParideLegovini/UbuntuServerDeveloperApplication LP page: https://launchpad.net/~paride15:10
teward(sorry bout that rafaeldtinoco just wanted to assist :P )15:11
rafaeldtinocoteward: no reason to be sorry for15:11
rafaeldtinocoalright, let's have some minutes for members to read your application (if not already) and ask you some questions15:11
parideI've been involved with FLOSS development for several years now and began working with the Server Team in 2019. As part of my QA role I perform several different tasks, mostly maintaining automation of stuff, general quality checking, ISO testing and so on15:12
parideI also participate in the triage process, bugfix work and merging of packages from Debian15:12
parideI've also been involved in the Ubuntu Release process starting from 19.04, participating to the release "sprints" in person and lately remotely15:13
parideMy background before starting to work as Ubuntu fulltime is mostly in the academia (I studies physics and then geophysics), where I performed mostly IT related work for research groups15:14
parideI am Debian Developer, which came handy from time to time for my Ubuntu work, and now I'm looking forward formally joining Ubuntu too :)15:15
rafaeldtinocothanks paride15:15
rbasakI'm a colleague of Paride's, so I intend to step back and let others drive the interview.15:15
rafaeldtinocorbasak: tku. I'm in the same situation, so I'll open for questions of other DMB members15:15
rafaeldtinocosil2100: teward: ddstreet: go ahead whenever you're ready.15:16
tewardmy attention on this is only 50% at the moment - active netsec issues @ workplace15:18
tewardbut i have no questions at this time15:18
tewardsil2100: ddstreet: floor's yours15:18
ddstreetparide most of your (listed) work so far has been on the devel release, have you done much sru work?15:18
sil2100No questions here o/15:19
parideddstreet, I didn't do SRU uploads myself, however I've been involved in the cloud-init SRU process for the past few uploads, collecting test results to fill in cloud-init SRU bugs15:20
ddstreetthanks, no more q from me15:22
parideIn general I did participate to sru *processes*, but without driving the process itself. Also as part of my triage process I did gave feedback on the possibility of SRUing a fix for the bug15:22
rafaeldtinocoddstreet: thank you15:22
rafaeldtinocoare we ready to vote ?15:22
ddstreeti'm ready15:23
rafaeldtinoco#vote paride, Ubuntu Server Developer pkgset application15:23
meetingologyPlease vote on: paride, Ubuntu Server Developer pkgset application15:23
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)15:23
rafaeldtinoco#votesrequired 415:23
meetingologyvotes now need 4 to be passed15:23
ddstreet+1 light on sru work, but i'm happy with endorsements and existing work15:24
meetingology+1 light on sru work, but i'm happy with endorsements and existing work received from ddstreet15:24
teward+115:25
meetingology+1 received from teward15:25
sil2100+1 good endorsements + I have worked with Paride during release weeks for both devel and stable series and I was always happy with his work, so I'm confident that he'll do good with upload rights as well15:25
meetingology+1 good endorsements + I have worked with Paride during release weeks for both devel and stable series and I was always happy with his work, so I'm confident that he'll do good with upload rights as well received from sil210015:25
rbasakOf everyone here, that's all the non-colleague DMB members voted I think?15:26
rafaeldtinoco+1 (after all other votes). I would recommend more merges to paride so he can apply to coredev in a medium future15:26
meetingology+1 (after all other votes). I would recommend more merges to paride so he can apply to coredev in a medium future received from rafaeldtinoco15:26
rbasakSo since they're all unanimous, I'll also provide a +1 to make quorum15:26
rbasak+115:26
meetingology+1 received from rbasak15:26
rafaeldtinocoperfect15:26
rafaeldtinoco#endvote15:26
meetingologyVoting ended on: paride, Ubuntu Server Developer pkgset application15:26
meetingologyVotes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:015:26
meetingologyMotion carried15:26
rafaeldtinocoparide: congrats !15:27
parideyay!! thanks!15:27
ddstreetcongratulations!15:27
rafaeldtinocowho can set him up ?15:27
rafaeldtinocome ?15:27
rafaeldtinocook15:27
paridealso thanks for the feedback on the SRU/merges work15:27
rafaeldtinoco#action rafaeldtinoco to add paride to serverdev and announce15:28
meetingologyACTION: rafaeldtinoco to add paride to serverdev and announce15:28
rafaeldtinocook, we still have another application15:28
rafaeldtinocoEickmeyer: ping15:28
Eickmeyero/15:28
* Eickmeyer here, sleepy as it's early morning15:28
rafaeldtinocoEickmeyer: could you introduce your self to the crew ?15:28
rafaeldtinoco#link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Eickmeyer/MOTUApplication15:28
Eickmeyerrafaeldtinoco: Sure.15:29
EickmeyerHi everyone. I'm Erich Eickmeyer, leader of the Ubuntu Studio flavor, also member of the Ubuntu Community Council. I've been working with Ubuntu Studio since 2018 and became a council member in October, and was recently hired by MindShareManagement as their User Experience manager for the Kubuntu Focus line of laptops.15:30
EickmeyerMy background prior to involvement in Ubuntu was in Audio/Video production and photography as well as customer service.15:30
EickmeyerMy MOTU application is noted above, and my LP page is https://launchpad.net/~eeickmeyer15:31
rafaeldtinocothank you Eickmeyer !15:31
rafaeldtinocoI'll give others some mins so they can read your application.15:31
rafaeldtinocoDMB, please feel free to drop questions as needed.15:32
tewardI've worked a lot with Erich so i'm going to step back and let the rest of the DMB drive the interview.15:33
teward(sorry i got a call from the CEO and had to take it - being the IT Security Guy at work is a... well, big thing xD)15:33
rafaeldtinocoteward: alright, good luck =) stay close15:34
tewardyup15:34
teward(I'm work from home - i ain't going anywhere xD)15:34
ddstreetEickmeyer it seems like most of your uploads are in the devel series, and not much SRU work, is that right?15:37
Eickmeyerddstreet: Not completely correct. There are several uploads I've done for SRU work, as sil2100 could probably tell you. :)15:37
EickmeyerWith my UbuntuStudio packageset, I've even sponsored an SRU or two.15:38
rafaeldtinocoEickmeyer: could you point me out a diff of one of your most challenging uploads ? (one you feel proud about)15:40
Eickmeyerrafaeldtinoco: Let me see what I can find.15:40
Eickmeyerrafaeldtinoco: Having difficulty, but there's one for rapid-photo-downloader that basically required an interim upload even though the upstream developer, who filed the SRU, wanted the complete next version which had too many new features to qualify for an SRU.15:43
EickmeyerSo we uploaded an interim version which fixed a crash in the application.15:43
Eickmeyerrafaeldtinoco: Here's the diff: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/rapid-photo-downloader_0.9.22-0ubuntu1_0.9.23a1-0ubuntu0.20.04.1.diff.gz15:44
rafaeldtinocoEickmeyer: thank you!15:44
rafaeldtinocohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rapid-photo-downloader/+bug/187394415:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1873944 in rapid-photo-downloader (Ubuntu Groovy) "[SRU] Upgrade rapid-photo-downloader to version 0.9.23a1" [High,Fix released]15:45
sil2100Eickmeyer: I see that your appliacation only has one endorsement - is there any reason for that?15:48
Eickmeyersil2100: Just lack of people available. I put the word out about two weeks ago.15:48
rafaeldtinocoEOY is not a good time for endorsements =).. anyway I could add there that I have ran pkgset changes script many times because of Eickmeyer15:49
rafaeldtinocohe has been adding packages to his seeds very actively lately15:50
ddstreetEickmeyer follow up q on that bug, i see it was rejected at first, and then reuploaded and then approved, was there discussion between you and any of the sru members before you reuploaded? i dont see any discussion in the bug comments15:51
Eickmeyerddstreet: Myself and bdmurray had some conversations in #ubuntu-release on how to proceed.15:52
ddstreetok excellent thanks15:52
EickmeyerI'll put this out there since it was only last week: I uploaded a fix to mate-optimus (a dgpu/igpu switching applet for all DEs) that had an incorrect call for KDE Plasma to logout which didn't allow for saving the current session. The fix was very easy.15:54
EickmeyerIt's in the ubuntustudio packageset since graphics performance is something Studio users can benefit from.15:54
RikMillssil2100: I would have done a full endorsement, but time was not my friend15:55
sil2100RikMills: thanks!15:56
* sil2100 has no other questions15:56
rbasakEickmeyer: have you had a package stuck in proposed before?15:56
Eickmeyerrbasak: agordejo got stuck recently due to a FTBFS for itself due to a FTBFS for nuitka, which has since resolved with a new version of nuitka. I currently have ubuntustudio-meta stuck due to needing riscv64 builds removed from it, pinged #ubuntu-release to have that resolved, will ping again today.15:57
rafaeldtinocoddstreet: are you good with questions ?16:00
rafaeldtinocoi know sil2100 is16:00
ddstreetyep no more q from me16:00
rafaeldtinocook16:00
rafaeldtinocono more questions from me either16:00
rafaeldtinocorbasak: let me know when you're good pls16:00
rafaeldtinoco(no rush, take your time)16:00
* ddstreet quick coffee refill16:02
tewardddstreet: bring me some :P16:02
* Eickmeyer notes that teward typically drinks coffee by the gallon16:02
tewardEickmeyer: 10-gallon drum now.16:02
teward(sorry for ot divergence)16:02
EickmeyerYikes. XD16:03
* ddstreet back16:04
rbasakEickmeyer: I see many -0ubuntu1 packages in Ubuntu16:04
rbasakDo you have any plans to integrate with Debian?16:04
rbasakWhat's the split between packages you maintain that are only in Ubuntu, and packages that have deltas against Debian?16:05
Eickmeyerrbasak: Some of that has happened organically (lsp-plugins, for instance, was taken upstream early last year), and I do watch the Debian mulitmedia lists frequently as part of that team.16:05
rbasak(I'm not saying that these are bad or good, just trying to understand)16:05
EickmeyerThe packages that have deltas against Debian are typically quick fixes or patches past Feature Freeze. When possible, I try to sync from Debian.16:06
EickmeyerFor example: for the mate-optimus delta, again, that was a quick fix that I've got an upstream PR in on, which will invalidate that patch I made for the Ubuntu version.16:07
EickmeyerAnd while it's a pre-FF fix, development on mate-optimus is slow.16:08
EickmeyerMost likely with Ross Gammon's help, I'll be able to do more with Debian.16:09
rbasakOK thanks16:10
rbasakI'm ready to vote16:10
rafaeldtinocoalright16:10
rafaeldtinocothanks rbasak16:10
rafaeldtinoco#vote Eickmeyer MOTU motion16:11
meetingologyPlease vote on: Eickmeyer MOTU motion16:11
meetingologyPublic votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)16:11
rafaeldtinoco#votesrequired 416:11
meetingologyvotes now need 4 to be passed16:11
rbasak+116:13
meetingology+1 received from rbasak16:13
rbasakI'm mainly swayed by teward's endorsement, especially as he's your primary sponsor16:13
sil2100hm16:14
rafaeldtinoco+1 I know Eickmeyer from his requests and I feel his enthusiasm. My vote is to encourage him to keep pursuing the same with universe packages (specially helping guaranteeing quality in fixes).16:14
meetingology+1 I know Eickmeyer from his requests and I feel his enthusiasm. My vote is to encourage him to keep pursuing the same with universe packages (specially helping guaranteeing quality in fixes). received from rafaeldtinoco16:14
rbasakI would just ask please, Eickmeyer, that you continue to seek review if you're not sure about anything.16:15
Eickmeyerrbasak: Of course. :)16:15
rbasakThat's partly from teward's endorsement too16:15
rbasak:)16:15
rafaeldtinocoyes! totally agree with what rbasak said16:15
sil2100+1 seeing that you have teward's and RikMills's endorsments, are very responsive whenever reached out to on IRC + your answers to questions, I think you will do fine as a MOTU16:15
meetingology+1 seeing that you have teward's and RikMills's endorsments, are very responsive whenever reached out to on IRC + your answers to questions, I think you will do fine as a MOTU received from sil210016:15
Eickmeyerteward and I have had that discussion. :)16:15
ddstreet+1 the non-ubuntustudio uploads are a bit light and as teward said there are some small issues in them, but i'm leaning on teward's endorsement indicating that's getting better, and issues appearing to be minor; also I think his enthusiasm and cooperation is excellent, and non-packaging work seems to be good16:15
meetingology+1 the non-ubuntustudio uploads are a bit light and as teward said there are some small issues in them, but i'm leaning on teward's endorsement indicating that's getting better, and issues appearing to be minor; also I think his enthusiasm and cooperation is excellent, and non-packaging work seems to be good received from ddstreet16:15
teward+1 (my endorsement already covers this, my vote is in after we have reached quorum)16:16
meetingology+1 (my endorsement already covers this, my vote is in after we have reached quorum) received from teward16:16
rafaeldtinoco#endvote16:16
meetingologyVoting ended on: Eickmeyer MOTU motion16:16
meetingologyVotes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:016:16
meetingologyMotion carried16:16
rafaeldtinocoEickmeyer: congratulations!16:17
EickmeyerThanks everyone!16:17
rafaeldtinocoI'll do the paper work for him as well16:17
ddstreetcongratulations!16:17
rafaeldtinoco#action paperwork for Eickmeyer's MOTU position16:17
meetingologyACTION: paperwork for Eickmeyer's MOTU position16:17
rafaeldtinoco#topic Select a chair for the next meeting16:17
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rafaeldtinoco#action Robie, Teward, Dan, Lukasz, Rafael16:18
meetingologyACTION: Robie, Teward, Dan, Lukasz, Rafael16:18
RikMillsEickmeyer: congratulations :)16:18
rafaeldtinoco#topic Any other business16:18
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EickmeyerThanks, RikMills! Now I can help you with KDE stuff as well!16:18
rafaeldtinocoanything else DMB ?16:18
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rafaeldtinoco#endmeeting16:18
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meetingologyMeeting ended Mon Jan 11 16:18:58 2021 UTC.16:18
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-01-11-15.03.moin.txt16:18
rafaeldtinocoEickmeyer: paride: congratulations to both16:19
rafaeldtinocowelcome to the community! =)16:19
Eickmeyer\o/16:19
rafaeldtinocoI'll update DMB agenda and follow with paper work this afternoon16:19
ddstreetthanks all o/16:19
rafaeldtinocoso it might take a few hours before you are promoted to the packagesets and groups16:19
rafaeldtinocoo/ have a good day/afternoon/evening all16:19
sil2100o/16:20
Eickmeyero/16:20
parideo/16:21

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