[15:01] <sil2100> o/
[15:01] <rafaeldtinoco> o/
[15:01] <ddstreet> o/
[15:01] <paride> o/ :)
[15:02] <rafaeldtinoco> waiting couple of mins to start
[15:02] <rbasak> o/
[15:03] <rafaeldtinoco> #startmeeting Ubuntu Developer Membership Board Meeting
[15:03] <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Jan 11 15:03:14 2021 UTC.  The chair is rafaeldtinoco. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[15:03] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[15:03] <rafaeldtinoco> chair rafaeldtinoco
[15:03] <rafaeldtinoco> #chair rafaeldtinoco
[15:03] <meetingology> Current chairs: rafaeldtinoco
[15:03] <rafaeldtinoco> #topic Review of previous action items
[15:04] <rafaeldtinoco> ddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over)
[15:04] <ddstreet> carry over please
[15:04] <rafaeldtinoco> #action ddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over)
[15:04] <meetingology> ACTION: ddstreet edubuntu seed <-> pkgset (carried over)
[15:04] <rafaeldtinoco> ddstreet to update the KnowledgeBase with details regarding creation of new packagesets
[15:05] <ddstreet> yep i believe that's done
[15:05] <rafaeldtinoco> tku! ... next one
[15:05] <rafaeldtinoco> ddstreet to add DKMS packages to the new kernel-dkms packageset
[15:05] <ddstreet> yep that is done
[15:05] <rafaeldtinoco> perfect! moving on..
[15:05] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak to reply to ML re: canonical-oem-metapackages packageset and owning team creation (carried over)
[15:06] <teward> derp
[15:07] <teward> o/
[15:07] <teward> (I am here!)
[15:07] <rafaeldtinoco> teward: o/
[15:07] <rbasak> Carry over please
[15:07] <rbasak> I'll get to it very soon now I promise
[15:07] <rafaeldtinoco> #action rbasak to reply to ML re: canonical-oem-metapackages packageset and owning team creation (carried over)
[15:07] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to reply to ML re: canonical-oem-metapackages packageset and owning team creation (carried over)
[15:07] <teward> sorry was communicating privately with rbasak on a few things (and stabbing someone because one of my employers service providers has an email breach)
[15:07] <rafaeldtinoco> no worries, tku
[15:08] <rafaeldtinoco> sil2100: yours are marked as done
[15:08] <rafaeldtinoco> just referencing here for documentation
[15:08] <rafaeldtinoco> sil2100 to add slyon to core-dev (done)
[15:08] <rafaeldtinoco> sil2100 to announce slyon's successful application (done)
[15:08] <rafaeldtinoco> that gives us next top
[15:08] <rafaeldtinoco> topic
[15:08] <rafaeldtinoco> #topic Package Set/Per Package Uploader Applications
[15:08] <rafaeldtinoco> today we have 2 applicants
[15:08] <rafaeldtinoco> paride: hello
[15:09] <rafaeldtinoco> paride: would you mind introducing yourself to the group ?
[15:09] <paride> hello Rafael! sure.
[15:10] <teward> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ParideLegovini/UbuntuServerDeveloperApplication
[15:10] <paride> I'm Paride Legovini, longtime Linux (Debian/Ubuntu) user located in Italy. I'm currently part of the Ubuntu Server team where I work as the QA engineer.
[15:10] <teward> #chair teward
[15:10] <meetingology> Current chairs: rafaeldtinoco teward
[15:10] <paride> My application page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ParideLegovini/UbuntuServerDeveloperApplication LP page: https://launchpad.net/~paride
[15:11] <teward> (sorry bout that rafaeldtinoco just wanted to assist :P )
[15:11] <rafaeldtinoco> teward: no reason to be sorry for
[15:11] <rafaeldtinoco> alright, let's have some minutes for members to read your application (if not already) and ask you some questions
[15:12] <paride> I've been involved with FLOSS development for several years now and began working with the Server Team in 2019. As part of my QA role I perform several different tasks, mostly maintaining automation of stuff, general quality checking, ISO testing and so on
[15:12] <paride> I also participate in the triage process, bugfix work and merging of packages from Debian
[15:13] <paride> I've also been involved in the Ubuntu Release process starting from 19.04, participating to the release "sprints" in person and lately remotely
[15:14] <paride> My background before starting to work as Ubuntu fulltime is mostly in the academia (I studies physics and then geophysics), where I performed mostly IT related work for research groups
[15:15] <paride> I am Debian Developer, which came handy from time to time for my Ubuntu work, and now I'm looking forward formally joining Ubuntu too :)
[15:15] <rafaeldtinoco> thanks paride
[15:15] <rbasak> I'm a colleague of Paride's, so I intend to step back and let others drive the interview.
[15:15] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: tku. I'm in the same situation, so I'll open for questions of other DMB members
[15:16] <rafaeldtinoco> sil2100: teward: ddstreet: go ahead whenever you're ready.
[15:18] <teward> my attention on this is only 50% at the moment - active netsec issues @ workplace
[15:18] <teward> but i have no questions at this time
[15:18] <teward> sil2100: ddstreet: floor's yours
[15:18] <ddstreet> paride most of your (listed) work so far has been on the devel release, have you done much sru work?
[15:19] <sil2100> No questions here o/
[15:20] <paride> ddstreet, I didn't do SRU uploads myself, however I've been involved in the cloud-init SRU process for the past few uploads, collecting test results to fill in cloud-init SRU bugs
[15:22] <ddstreet> thanks, no more q from me
[15:22] <paride> In general I did participate to sru *processes*, but without driving the process itself. Also as part of my triage process I did gave feedback on the possibility of SRUing a fix for the bug
[15:22] <rafaeldtinoco> ddstreet: thank you
[15:22] <rafaeldtinoco> are we ready to vote ?
[15:23] <ddstreet> i'm ready
[15:23] <rafaeldtinoco> #vote paride, Ubuntu Server Developer pkgset application
[15:23] <meetingology> Please vote on: paride, Ubuntu Server Developer pkgset application
[15:23] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[15:23] <rafaeldtinoco> #votesrequired 4
[15:23] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[15:24] <ddstreet> +1 light on sru work, but i'm happy with endorsements and existing work
[15:24] <meetingology> +1 light on sru work, but i'm happy with endorsements and existing work received from ddstreet
[15:25] <teward> +1
[15:25] <meetingology> +1 received from teward
[15:25] <sil2100> +1 good endorsements + I have worked with Paride during release weeks for both devel and stable series and I was always happy with his work, so I'm confident that he'll do good with upload rights as well
[15:25] <meetingology> +1 good endorsements + I have worked with Paride during release weeks for both devel and stable series and I was always happy with his work, so I'm confident that he'll do good with upload rights as well received from sil2100
[15:26] <rbasak> Of everyone here, that's all the non-colleague DMB members voted I think?
[15:26] <rafaeldtinoco> +1 (after all other votes). I would recommend more merges to paride so he can apply to coredev in a medium future
[15:26] <meetingology> +1 (after all other votes). I would recommend more merges to paride so he can apply to coredev in a medium future received from rafaeldtinoco
[15:26] <rbasak> So since they're all unanimous, I'll also provide a +1 to make quorum
[15:26] <rbasak> +1
[15:26] <meetingology> +1 received from rbasak
[15:26] <rafaeldtinoco> perfect
[15:26] <rafaeldtinoco> #endvote
[15:26] <meetingology> Voting ended on: paride, Ubuntu Server Developer pkgset application
[15:26] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[15:26] <meetingology> Motion carried
[15:27] <rafaeldtinoco> paride: congrats !
[15:27] <paride> yay!! thanks!
[15:27] <ddstreet> congratulations!
[15:27] <rafaeldtinoco> who can set him up ?
[15:27] <rafaeldtinoco> me ?
[15:27] <rafaeldtinoco> ok
[15:27] <paride> also thanks for the feedback on the SRU/merges work
[15:28] <rafaeldtinoco> #action rafaeldtinoco to add paride to serverdev and announce
[15:28] <meetingology> ACTION: rafaeldtinoco to add paride to serverdev and announce
[15:28] <rafaeldtinoco> ok, we still have another application
[15:28] <rafaeldtinoco> Eickmeyer: ping
[15:28] <Eickmeyer> o/
[15:28]  * Eickmeyer here, sleepy as it's early morning
[15:28] <rafaeldtinoco> Eickmeyer: could you introduce your self to the crew ?
[15:28] <rafaeldtinoco> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Eickmeyer/MOTUApplication
[15:29] <Eickmeyer> rafaeldtinoco: Sure.
[15:30] <Eickmeyer> Hi everyone. I'm Erich Eickmeyer, leader of the Ubuntu Studio flavor, also member of the Ubuntu Community Council. I've been working with Ubuntu Studio since 2018 and became a council member in October, and was recently hired by MindShareManagement as their User Experience manager for the Kubuntu Focus line of laptops.
[15:30] <Eickmeyer> My background prior to involvement in Ubuntu was in Audio/Video production and photography as well as customer service.
[15:31] <Eickmeyer> My MOTU application is noted above, and my LP page is https://launchpad.net/~eeickmeyer
[15:31] <rafaeldtinoco> thank you Eickmeyer !
[15:31] <rafaeldtinoco> I'll give others some mins so they can read your application.
[15:32] <rafaeldtinoco> DMB, please feel free to drop questions as needed.
[15:33] <teward> I've worked a lot with Erich so i'm going to step back and let the rest of the DMB drive the interview.
[15:33] <teward> (sorry i got a call from the CEO and had to take it - being the IT Security Guy at work is a... well, big thing xD)
[15:34] <rafaeldtinoco> teward: alright, good luck =) stay close
[15:34] <teward> yup
[15:34] <teward> (I'm work from home - i ain't going anywhere xD)
[15:37] <ddstreet> Eickmeyer it seems like most of your uploads are in the devel series, and not much SRU work, is that right?
[15:37] <Eickmeyer> ddstreet: Not completely correct. There are several uploads I've done for SRU work, as sil2100 could probably tell you. :)
[15:38] <Eickmeyer> With my UbuntuStudio packageset, I've even sponsored an SRU or two.
[15:40] <rafaeldtinoco> Eickmeyer: could you point me out a diff of one of your most challenging uploads ? (one you feel proud about)
[15:40] <Eickmeyer> rafaeldtinoco: Let me see what I can find.
[15:43] <Eickmeyer> rafaeldtinoco: Having difficulty, but there's one for rapid-photo-downloader that basically required an interim upload even though the upstream developer, who filed the SRU, wanted the complete next version which had too many new features to qualify for an SRU.
[15:43] <Eickmeyer> So we uploaded an interim version which fixed a crash in the application.
[15:44] <Eickmeyer> rafaeldtinoco: Here's the diff: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/rapid-photo-downloader_0.9.22-0ubuntu1_0.9.23a1-0ubuntu0.20.04.1.diff.gz
[15:44] <rafaeldtinoco> Eickmeyer: thank you!
[15:45] <rafaeldtinoco> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rapid-photo-downloader/+bug/1873944
[15:48] <sil2100> Eickmeyer: I see that your appliacation only has one endorsement - is there any reason for that?
[15:48] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: Just lack of people available. I put the word out about two weeks ago.
[15:49] <rafaeldtinoco> EOY is not a good time for endorsements =).. anyway I could add there that I have ran pkgset changes script many times because of Eickmeyer
[15:50] <rafaeldtinoco> he has been adding packages to his seeds very actively lately
[15:51] <ddstreet> Eickmeyer follow up q on that bug, i see it was rejected at first, and then reuploaded and then approved, was there discussion between you and any of the sru members before you reuploaded? i dont see any discussion in the bug comments
[15:52] <Eickmeyer> ddstreet: Myself and bdmurray had some conversations in #ubuntu-release on how to proceed.
[15:52] <ddstreet> ok excellent thanks
[15:54] <Eickmeyer> I'll put this out there since it was only last week: I uploaded a fix to mate-optimus (a dgpu/igpu switching applet for all DEs) that had an incorrect call for KDE Plasma to logout which didn't allow for saving the current session. The fix was very easy.
[15:54] <Eickmeyer> It's in the ubuntustudio packageset since graphics performance is something Studio users can benefit from.
[15:55] <RikMills> sil2100: I would have done a full endorsement, but time was not my friend
[15:56] <sil2100> RikMills: thanks!
[15:56]  * sil2100 has no other questions
[15:56] <rbasak> Eickmeyer: have you had a package stuck in proposed before?
[15:57] <Eickmeyer> rbasak: agordejo got stuck recently due to a FTBFS for itself due to a FTBFS for nuitka, which has since resolved with a new version of nuitka. I currently have ubuntustudio-meta stuck due to needing riscv64 builds removed from it, pinged #ubuntu-release to have that resolved, will ping again today.
[16:00] <rafaeldtinoco> ddstreet: are you good with questions ?
[16:00] <rafaeldtinoco> i know sil2100 is
[16:00] <ddstreet> yep no more q from me
[16:00] <rafaeldtinoco> ok
[16:00] <rafaeldtinoco> no more questions from me either
[16:00] <rafaeldtinoco> rbasak: let me know when you're good pls
[16:00] <rafaeldtinoco> (no rush, take your time)
[16:02]  * ddstreet quick coffee refill
[16:02] <teward> ddstreet: bring me some :P
[16:02]  * Eickmeyer notes that teward typically drinks coffee by the gallon
[16:02] <teward> Eickmeyer: 10-gallon drum now.
[16:02] <teward> (sorry for ot divergence)
[16:03] <Eickmeyer> Yikes. XD
[16:04]  * ddstreet back
[16:04] <rbasak> Eickmeyer: I see many -0ubuntu1 packages in Ubuntu
[16:04] <rbasak> Do you have any plans to integrate with Debian?
[16:05] <rbasak> What's the split between packages you maintain that are only in Ubuntu, and packages that have deltas against Debian?
[16:05] <Eickmeyer> rbasak: Some of that has happened organically (lsp-plugins, for instance, was taken upstream early last year), and I do watch the Debian mulitmedia lists frequently as part of that team.
[16:05] <rbasak> (I'm not saying that these are bad or good, just trying to understand)
[16:06] <Eickmeyer> The packages that have deltas against Debian are typically quick fixes or patches past Feature Freeze. When possible, I try to sync from Debian.
[16:07] <Eickmeyer> For example: for the mate-optimus delta, again, that was a quick fix that I've got an upstream PR in on, which will invalidate that patch I made for the Ubuntu version.
[16:08] <Eickmeyer> And while it's a pre-FF fix, development on mate-optimus is slow.
[16:09] <Eickmeyer> Most likely with Ross Gammon's help, I'll be able to do more with Debian.
[16:10] <rbasak> OK thanks
[16:10] <rbasak> I'm ready to vote
[16:10] <rafaeldtinoco> alright
[16:10] <rafaeldtinoco> thanks rbasak
[16:11] <rafaeldtinoco> #vote Eickmeyer MOTU motion
[16:11] <meetingology> Please vote on: Eickmeyer MOTU motion
[16:11] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname)
[16:11] <rafaeldtinoco> #votesrequired 4
[16:11] <meetingology> votes now need 4 to be passed
[16:13] <rbasak> +1
[16:13] <meetingology> +1 received from rbasak
[16:13] <rbasak> I'm mainly swayed by teward's endorsement, especially as he's your primary sponsor
[16:14] <sil2100> hm
[16:14] <rafaeldtinoco> +1 I know Eickmeyer from his requests and I feel his enthusiasm. My vote is to encourage him to keep pursuing the same with universe packages (specially helping guaranteeing quality in fixes).
[16:14] <meetingology> +1 I know Eickmeyer from his requests and I feel his enthusiasm. My vote is to encourage him to keep pursuing the same with universe packages (specially helping guaranteeing quality in fixes). received from rafaeldtinoco
[16:15] <rbasak> I would just ask please, Eickmeyer, that you continue to seek review if you're not sure about anything.
[16:15] <Eickmeyer> rbasak: Of course. :)
[16:15] <rbasak> That's partly from teward's endorsement too
[16:15] <rbasak> :)
[16:15] <rafaeldtinoco> yes! totally agree with what rbasak said
[16:15] <sil2100> +1 seeing that you have teward's and RikMills's endorsments, are very responsive whenever reached out to on IRC + your answers to questions, I think you will do fine as a MOTU
[16:15] <meetingology> +1 seeing that you have teward's and RikMills's endorsments, are very responsive whenever reached out to on IRC + your answers to questions, I think you will do fine as a MOTU received from sil2100
[16:15] <Eickmeyer> teward and I have had that discussion. :)
[16:15] <ddstreet> +1 the non-ubuntustudio uploads are a bit light and as teward said there are some small issues in them, but i'm leaning on teward's endorsement indicating that's getting better, and issues appearing to be minor; also I think his enthusiasm and cooperation is excellent, and non-packaging work seems to be good
[16:15] <meetingology> +1 the non-ubuntustudio uploads are a bit light and as teward said there are some small issues in them, but i'm leaning on teward's endorsement indicating that's getting better, and issues appearing to be minor; also I think his enthusiasm and cooperation is excellent, and non-packaging work seems to be good received from ddstreet
[16:16] <teward> +1 (my endorsement already covers this, my vote is in after we have reached quorum)
[16:16] <meetingology> +1 (my endorsement already covers this, my vote is in after we have reached quorum) received from teward
[16:16] <rafaeldtinoco> #endvote
[16:16] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Eickmeyer MOTU motion
[16:16] <meetingology> Votes for:5 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[16:16] <meetingology> Motion carried
[16:17] <rafaeldtinoco> Eickmeyer: congratulations!
[16:17] <Eickmeyer> Thanks everyone!
[16:17] <rafaeldtinoco> I'll do the paper work for him as well
[16:17] <ddstreet> congratulations!
[16:17] <rafaeldtinoco> #action paperwork for Eickmeyer's MOTU position
[16:17] <meetingology> ACTION: paperwork for Eickmeyer's MOTU position
[16:17] <rafaeldtinoco> #topic Select a chair for the next meeting
[16:18] <rafaeldtinoco> #action Robie, Teward, Dan, Lukasz, Rafael
[16:18] <meetingology> ACTION: Robie, Teward, Dan, Lukasz, Rafael
[16:18] <RikMills> Eickmeyer: congratulations :)
[16:18] <rafaeldtinoco> #topic Any other business
[16:18] <Eickmeyer> Thanks, RikMills! Now I can help you with KDE stuff as well!
[16:18] <rafaeldtinoco> anything else DMB ?
[16:18] <rafaeldtinoco> 3
[16:18] <rafaeldtinoco> 2
[16:18] <rafaeldtinoco> 1
[16:18] <rafaeldtinoco> #endmeeting
[16:18] <meetingology> Meeting ended Mon Jan 11 16:18:58 2021 UTC.
[16:18] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-01-11-15.03.moin.txt
[16:19] <rafaeldtinoco> Eickmeyer: paride: congratulations to both
[16:19] <rafaeldtinoco> welcome to the community! =)
[16:19] <Eickmeyer> \o/
[16:19] <rafaeldtinoco> I'll update DMB agenda and follow with paper work this afternoon
[16:19] <ddstreet> thanks all o/
[16:19] <rafaeldtinoco> so it might take a few hours before you are promoted to the packagesets and groups
[16:19] <rafaeldtinoco> o/ have a good day/afternoon/evening all
[16:20] <sil2100> o/
[16:20] <Eickmeyer> o/
[16:21] <paride> o/